The Big Three in Honkai Star Rail | Why They Complete The Meta
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- The Big Three in Honkai Star Rail | Why Are They Are So BROKEN?
Today's video is going to be about the 3 most game changing investments you can possibly make to your account. We are going to be talking about Ruan Mei, Robin and Sparkle. These characters have a multitude of buffs, potential availability to have the most diverse teams that can be made by sticking them with any team. These characters provide universal and enourmous buffs that allow you to save on an enourmous amount of resources and other materials that would be spent summoning and building characters that would have small or limited niches. Let me know if you are summoning for robin before she leaves and also if you are looking forward to the reruns for these other characters.
00:00 Intro
03:01 Sparkle
04:38 Robin
08:47 Ruan Mei
10:54 Do I need all 3?
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Remember to get your favorite characters first but if you are someone who just wanna play casual, i would suggest getting at least one premium character for every path, harmony and sustain characters will last longer than any dps characters.
As a former genshin player, I went into HSR with that mindset. The problem is Acheron made me rethink that. This character brute forces everything. I am scared what Firefly will do to one up it.
@@Igloomain Acheron is a rare unit. Don't be fooled, most dps units will not be at her level. I didn't pull for her because she breaks the game (not just op but game breaking) and would power creep all current and future dps units. I don't know what fireflies kit would be, if she's not game breaking like acheron, rest easy. she won't be a must have unit. She will be "meta" temporarily like jingliu but jingliu's top tier spot didn't last long. DHIL power crept her with sparkle, Black swan + kafka beat her out and now dr. ratio fua is competing with her as well. Also, current content indirectly nerfed her. Get 2 top tier limited harmony units and at least 1 limited sustain (preferably 2). After that, just get your favorite characters. You will never regret getting your favorite characters. I have no regret getting jing yuan because support units make your dps. Not the other way around (exception: acheron).
sustain just 2 is enough, 5* limited supports are never enough
If u already have 2, then dps should be priority
Unless you really like the characters, or of course not f2p
From what I've analyzed, these are what you get from the big three:
Sparkle - Almost unlimited skill pts and buff for Hypercarry, Dual DPS
Robin - Extra turn and buff for FUA, DOT, Dual DPS
Ruan Mei - Extra turn from breaking and buff for Hypercarry, Dual DPS, DOT, Breaker characters.
How about bronya?
@@wvttie She's good for hypercarry like Jingliu and Blade but Robin does what she does for your whole party.
Ruan Mei is also good for dual dps , going for hypercarry is a waste of buffs since you only buff 1 dps..
@@crystalizedxx7461 I havent tried dual DPS but I got her as harmony support for my jingliu hypercarry with Bronya
@@wvttiefor sp neutral or positive hypercarries
Poor bronya 😢😢😢😢😢 we will never forget you
She is still one of the best in her niche. The problem is: She is a lot less versatile, but when she works she might be even better than some of the mentioned supports.
The difference is those supports are great at their niche, but are also good in other situations.
at least Bronya has Jingliu
@@-rayzer--wolf-6474 First thing I'm doing after rolling Robin will be using Jingliu/Bronya/Robin/Luocha, her best team already used Bronya with Ruan Mei, this should let me use her instead while having Ruan Mei permanently on my DoT team. or vice versa, depending on testing.
I never got her and was saving up for her ... now i don't know if i should even get Robin for my Blade and Jingliu team or keep using Ruan Mei and get Bronya eventually
@@Force-Multiplier id probably still get Bronya for your 300 selector anyway unless your desperate for a Himeko for pure fiction or something, i got kinda lucky and got her sig LC off standard and E0S1 Bronya on Jingliu teams is so good you just do the hyperspeed bronya build and go brrrrrr
The meta isn't complete until we get our Emo King support!
So we have the big three Dps, DHIL JL and Acheron, the big three of support that you mentioned, and big 4 of sustain, luocha, fu, aventurine, and huo huo
I don't have any of them :')
@@lennonjohndancel9330Aventurine is still here for four days
I hate to be the bringer of bad news but what makes the big three sustains the big three sustains is their ability to give offensive buffs despite being sustains. Luocha is not one of the big sustains.
we only have a big 3 for supports and maybe a big 1 for DPS (Acheron), none of the other chars in the game are anywhere near as game changing
Here we go Acheron si mp shit again.Like others can't even touch her feet dmg
My boy got in!!!
when u do the dot team can do also do the same thing u did with ruan mei for the FUA where u compare how many cycles it takes? I loved that great content quickly becoming my favorite.❤
Sparkle is the only top tier character i regret pulling not because she is bad but u need specific teams to make her work
She doesn't feel like a noticeable upgrade for my roster ,my teams are
1) dot teams ( she has no place )
2) selee hyper carry ( selee is so damn weak even with sparkle )
3)jingliu( bronya is just better)
4)dr. Ratio ( she feels like a side grade to tingyun)
5) acheron( i run dotcheron or with two de buffers e0 acheron btw)
Yeah, you need brain to make sparkle work with Jingliu, because her buff only last for 1 turn and can be erased when Jingliu entering her enhance state
@@Donkam_haurder its the same for bronya though.
Seele actually is good. She just falls off if you dont have enough investment to ohko mobs, which is definitely your situation seeing as how you seem to be focusing on a lot of other things right now.
@@kazekori9593 it's not just investment in her, you need good team investment too (with proper speed tuning) and need to play carefully for her full potential (your gameplay doesn't matter for other DPSs). She's proven through many showcases to be a top 2 E0S0 DPS for players who know what they're doing. She'll probably continue to perform at that level for the best/luckiest players, though she'll probably be powercrept by Jade for the average player.
Sparkle kinda needs 164+ spd wind set (or a DDD TY ulting twice per with 167 spd rainbow Spark) to reach her full potential. This allows Sparkle to get 3 turns on cycle 0 instead of 2, which makes a huge difference in most clears.
This Big 3 are just the powercrept galore to remove Bronya out of relevance
bronya carried me all the way since 1.0. but ever since i got sparkle and ruan mei, my bronya was now on a vacation. but no one ever replaced my tingyun. she is always either one of my team.
After watching sweetily's first impressions, I'm concerned with Robin's skill point efficiency.
It would be cool if you could test that out good sir.
I wasn't around when ruan mei came out, but i did pull sparkle when she came out.
We got Robin the Follow-up Physical Breaker , Ruan Mei the Break And DOT assister and Sparkle the Gamblers Assistant (Qingque) and DHIL
I'm pulling for Robin since she is the only harmony character I don't have when 2.2 drops, also I would love to hear her sing in game in every battle.
I don’t know who to pull for now I want to make my Acheron, pela, and aventurine team better because I only have sparkle and Bronya and was thinking the ruan mei would be good for that team but I also want to make my himiko, herta, and aventurine team good with robin but I’m to indecisive on who I should pull for
Who is the best harmony support for E2S1 acheron?
I should probably skip Robin since I have E2S1 Bronya, and E0 Ruan Mei and Sparkle. Acheron is always on one side of MoC, but she does use Sparkle. I don't have Topaz or Aventurine nor will I ever pull them. Granted I do use Dr. Ratio, Clara (moc) Himeko and Herta (pf) so I do have some follow up units. But somehow skipping a 5* Harmony feels wrong. I guess if I lose 50/50 that'll be that and then I'll be guaranteed for Firefly.
I have e0s1 sparkle and e1s1 bronya (and e3 s3ddd tingyun). I’ve wanted ruan mei since i started playing in 2.0. Them releasing robin just 1 patch prior to ruan mei is baiting me so hard. But i need to resist.
What’s really assisting me to skip her is robin’s bis for dot teams and single target hunt character teams. Which i use neither.
I opted for the destruction/brute force and erudition (aoe) type DPS’s (JL, JY, Acheron, Himeko/Herta). Argenti would be cool.
So at this point it looks like im skipping robin/topaz/boothill (if my gambling addiction doesnt take over). Then ill go for fu xuan, firefly & ruan mei (and maybe jade..?). 2.2 is looking like a dry patch for me, then 2.3 is gonna explode my bank account.
When talking about Mei vs. Robin, after the team wide 50% multiplicative damage bonus. Then it's an argument of Weakness Break Efficiency, Res-Pen and Action Delay, vs. Crit value, Attack bonus and Team Action Advance. After which, you then talk about niches such as with their added kit synergies, Bonus Break Damage, vs Crit value for Follow Up.
Sparkle is off in her own little playground as the queen of Hypercarry, Skill Point Battery, Crit Damage, and Damage Bonus, and Action Forward that unlike Bronya is SP positive without the 50/50. From there her niche with added kit synergy with damage increase for Quantum Allies.
To this day bronya gives strongest damage in hypercary teams if u can manage her sp issue
Sparkle is a little bit harder to use with Jingliu, because if you use her skill before Jingliu entering her enhance state, sparkle's Crit damage buff will be immediately erased, cuz her buff only last for 1 turn
Sry the queen of hypercarry is Bronya and not Sparkle. Only 50% advance and no debuffer removal really affected the team as the game will be harder will unavoidable debuffer from boss fight or end game. If player have really skill point issues then it shows the player really having skill issues. Just use sp positive character in the team already enough. Plus, DoT Ruan Mei and FUA Robin team will be the best teams in the game for a long time while hypercarry sparkle or mono copium quantum team will be the worst team. Even break effect Ruan Mei team is far superior as enemy will have a lot of toughness break bar.
@user-xu5lr9jw3j Here's how I know you are LARPing as an experienced player. If you understand the fundamentals of Action Value, you would know that 50% action advance is identical to 100%. Also, the idea that having more sp for sp hungry Hypercarries like DHIL and Seele, while also providing damage bonus for dps who don't scale off of attack, like Blade. Having access to excess sp for new rotation with Ting'yun or Huo Huo or Ruan Mei for faster ultimates generation, faster procing of DDD without running out of sp is not something Bronya could accommodate.
@@XenonDante Hahaha the real LARping is you. Good luck getting your whole team cced by enemies while bronya easily can avoided that. Imagine needing a lot of sp for fast ultimate when you can just use Er rope for one turn ulti for supports. Who use seele when the best teams right now and foreseeable future is DoT and FUA. Hypercarry is so overrated.
Need dedicated dot harmony character
No nihility character as specific dot support. I want to see more debuffers that shine at amplification. Rather than a debuffer who does 1mil DMG at E0S0 following the debuffing path and doesn't apply any debuffs
@@user-qr3lr7sh1gDoT already has a lot of other debuffs baked in. If you have her lc then black swan has 87.6% def shred and 25%vuln. So a debuff nihility can’t be defense shred based, particularly when DoT also really likes buffs since they don’t have many in kit self buffs.
@@JohnDoe-si4eg but it would be cool if we get a dot specific buffer as a nihility character, can be a niche 4star character who is better than Ruanmei and Robin at E6 for DoT team. Say like suspicion stacks in SU it would be really good if a character does something like that.
@@user-qr3lr7sh1g that’s fair. Since both swan and kafka scale with additional DoTs I wouldn’t be surprised if the entire team ends up being compromised by hybrids eventually.
Oh I wouldn't say for sure hyv wouldn't add more end game/mode that requires more than 2 teams to clear it.
With how rapidly they added game modes like PF and in new one in 2.3.
Also wait till we got TY 5* powercreep, its gonna be big 4 😂
My favorite support is all of them. But Robin has mah heart rn, my lik popstar girl boss detective QUEEN.
I wonder if we’ll ever get a limited 5-star buffer that works extremely well with Blade, where not a single part of their kit is wasted (I.e., attack buffs).
Probably when we get more hp scalers
@@renaiya1666 hopefully soon!
This is cool! I know for certain that they're passing Jingliu around like a blunt /hj
I have 2 limited Harmony 1 is sparkle and another harmony who looks like sparkle, yeah her e1 lol. Got lucky in 10 pull.
how bout harmony trailblazer mc?
You can not say no to Ruan Mei because she will break you.
If I get Robin, can I skip getting E1 on Topaz? Will not having E1 on Topaz feel less bad since Robin is also buffing FUA?
if you can manage to get 3 debuffs on the enemy without e1 topaz then robin is much much much much better investment
My ratio and topaz at 125 spd because with ruan they hit the 134 mark but if i were to slot in robin. I'll have to change the builds and its gonna sck big time. So i think i would rather not bother pulling 🤣
Fair enough lmao
True.No one thought about the SPD increase.Dude ...........
Now it seems like ruan provides more versatility and comfort building characters and robin being not like that and giving slight 5% dmg increase to team DPS .
@@mahimraihan2235 Robin cumulative DMG definitely is higher than Ruan mei. But 10 spd loss by removing Ruan mei from my IPC team is gonna fk up my setup. And am not interested in spd tuning again It really makes me wanna die 🥹
We still don't have a 5 star Tingyun. Once we get that, then we can consider the CORE harmony group completed
Bronya - 100% action advance 1
Robin - 100% action advance all
Tingyun - restore % energy to 1
5* tingyun - restore 100% energy to all 😂
I have sparkle and im getting robin. I don't think I need ruan mei since I don't use DOT and im skipping break characters like boothill and firefly. (Maybe firefly's animations will change my mind when they get leaked)
Lucky me, i skip Sparkle so now i can have RM, Bronya, and Robin for every team type whatever i want 😁
Im sorry but saying robin is more suited on a dot team compared to mei is just straight up wrong 6:20
I didn't quote you directly buh tldr thats what your saying
How can you say that when literally all Robin gives is the atk buff and av manipulation
Compared to mei that every single buff from her isn't wasted on a dot team
Are you telling me dot char are criting because i dont see how robin can be valuable on that comp when only half of what shes giving is used
While everything Mei gives is somewhat beneficial to them
Stop with the glazing Robin outside fua is a weak comparison to Mei lets end it there
No matter what new best harmony comes out Bronya is never leaving my team.
Unless they release another Bronya who I will definitely E6S5
Sparkle works way too similar to bronya with the exception of the extra skill point, which is unnecessary without IL or Qingque. Qingque is cool and all but Jade is gonna replace her anw, who also synergize with robin.
Waiting for big 3 to move to big 4
Well i let luck decide for me, i skipped Aventurine, i want Robin and Jade i dont have that many Jades... i just let luck decide for me... i'll just keep pulling until the end.
Ruan Mei still better for DOT teams because of the SP economy. You have a dead weight with Robin after she ultimates as SP goes and you'll need a lot of SP in Kafka, Black Swan teams.
I use kafka and blackswan and the only one that uses sp every turn is kafka
Blackswan's def down on skill lasts for 3 turns so you don't have to use it every time she takes action
Also you need to basic atk to trigger kafka's follow up so having blackswan that's going first to auto is going to trigger it and after kafka's turn you can auto again with the sustain and trigger it again since her turn just past.
I don't find it an issue if Robin is just a sp neutral state during her ult in fact the advance forward would you a free turn to generate more sp with your characters as well so it wouldn't rly matter if she can't generate sp during her ult
It's funny how they forget Robin also gives crit dmg which is basically wasted on a dot comp saj
When I saw Robin, I thought her Microphone stand was a walking cane… don’t at me please it does look like a walking cane from this perspective
Bronya grandmother of big 3 ? xD
Wow, it’s Robin from Naruto, Ruan Mei from Bleach and Sparkle from One Piece!!!
Ruan Mei will be too hard to be powercrept while Sparkle is the easiest to be powercrept. Robin will be in the middle.
What if SUNDAY is also an Harmony
I'm leaning towards with Ruan Mei and Sparkle that's because I do not have a Topaz for Robin or a Kafka.Might be pulling for Boothill.
Can't wait to shit on mei mains with Robin.
Jk I'm still salty from loosing 5050 to yanqing 😂
waiting for ruan mei rerun first so that I can get robin later.
I don't have aventurine(will get him on his rerun later) and don't plan on getting topaz(she be thicc, but I don't like her attitude), BUT if there are substitutes I like, will get her.
Not complete. I'm sure there will be Harmony specially for DoT.
I will skip Robin because I dont need her.
Ruan Mei is fine for my DoT Team. I use break.
And Sparkle for my E2 Acheron.
The Acheron Team (Acheron, Sparkle, Aventurine, Pela) is for one side of MoC
The other side is for the Kafka DoT Team with Black Swan or Luca or Welt.
Or (for ice) a Jingliu Hyyper Team.
I really want Firefly as a Fire-Jingliu.
And Huohuo for the DoT Team.
So I think I will skip 2.2 completely...although I like Fu Xuan.
If Huohuos rerun is not in 2.3 I will pull for her.
We almost have the same pulling plans
I honestly think your videos would do better if they were scripted a bit more - or if scripted already read a bit slower - with some breaks - good "voice/diction" examples being Iyo, Tectone, Gatcha smack and Braxophone
I hard disagree with big three. HuoHuo as a hybrid is the fourth for DoT. Bronya's 100% on skill is too strong. I can admit that even though I have Sparkle. Teamwide 100% on ultimate doesn't match Bronya's skill. She can spam it with her skill.
Bronya skill is so SP consuming if you don't have her sig LC, you can't spam it aimlessly and it only give you 30% damage boost on single target
@@Donkam_haurder Bronya's skill is 66% dmg boost. If you have past and future 4 star lightcone, it adds 32% at S5 so 98% dmg boost from skill. Bronya can spam her skill, it depends on team members SP positivity like Jingliu allows it.
Now release dps or nihility characters hoyo.
First
lmao when will people realize that tingyun is as good if not better than these 3
Rehoo where can I message you to ask some questions about becoming a content creator?