TCL Flip 2 vs Nokia 2760 || $20 Flip Phone Battle
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- TCL Flip 2 vs Nokia 2760 || $20 Flip Phone Battle. What can a $20 flip phone do? This is the comparison between the Nokia KaiOS and the TCL Android flip phone. $20 can go a long way!
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Thank you for your videos. as a senior with limited tech savvy I find them very informative, keep up the good work
The problem on every Nokia's Kaios based phone was too much bloatware apps/games inside them.
that and the fact that the essential are like a joke , like whatsapp stop after phone os goes up
its like either kaios is throttling sales by up the version or the dev emselves push the up too far.
its a crappy spec u cant even go so much update on os
its not like u can go sd 425on the soc now anyway even tho its an old chip already and they stucl to 215 for all this 4 year
can kaios be UBL anyway
And no SDcard slot on the Nokia.
This makes my appreciate the simplicity of the light phone 2 even more👍
You have inspired me to aquire a borderline "end of support" phone which can load an alt OS. I'll probably end up bricking it but life is about the journey.
Jose, what's the most pocketable flip phone capable of firing off T-Mobile's network available today? I'm looking for less bulk than any of the durables (Kyocera / Sonim) or even the latest installments from Alcatel and Nokia--when open those flippers are too long. Curious as to what you think is the best for calls primarily, but still capable of text (on T-Mobile). Thanks, your channels great!
I tried using adb to change the up and down key shortcuts and it will not accept the passcode. is tracfone blocking modifying it?
Hi Jose, would you mind posting a guide on how you flashed the TCL flip 2 in order to install additional apps? The instructions on apps4flip are still confusing and I don't want to brick my phone because I'm not following the instructions correctly. Thanks!
Follow this guide on the github: github.com/neutronscott/flip2/wiki Make sure to click the details arrow and follow those instructions on windows. You will need MTK v85 and MTK drivers. If you have further questions, lmk.
Which one allows you to see how many minutes or days you have left and when they need to be recharged? Which one allows you to remove most of the "apps" from the menu? I only need a phone I can make and receive calls with and see how many minutes I have left. I don't do text or browser or anything like that. I don't see a point for a camera if you are not really using it as a camera phone, in a zoom call for example.
Get a Sunbeam F1 Dandelion or Daisy. It's your best bet for a simple phone.
One thing I wish you would cover is ease or possibility of syncing Google contacts. That's the biggest speed bump for me going to a dumb phone. Apps are here or there for me but syncing over 900 contacts vs manually entering them is definitely a make or break
Love your content though!!
Why not use bluetooth to transfer the contact in .vcs file? Oldschool method
@@ekoprasetiyo I literally figured that out a few days after making the original comment... But also, the Nokia can link to your Google contacts as well!
CalDAV and CarDAV exist. You don't need a single proprietary service for sync.
My Nokia 2720 synced all of my Google contacts once I logged in to CZcams on it
For some reason the TCL one trying to imitate KaiOS built-in app UI
Nokia Should make a QWERTY keyboard KaiOS device. T9 typing for Chating is horrendous!
If your gonna use a flip phone, then why get one with all the "smart" features. That negates the point of having a basic phone.
i think some people want it for nostalgia, or just want a budget phone ($20 flip phone is cheaper than $1500 iphone)
Dumb phones doing smart things is the biggest "fu" to society and $700+ phones lololol Kyocera DuraXV is now my current flip. It's as smart as can be. Wifi, Hotspot, Maps, Spotify, Zello, Instagram, Discord, casting to my Roku. Gameboy emulators are awesome cuz of the form factor and physical buttons. It's already been buried in the snow, dropped in a bucket of nasty fishtank water, closed in my car hood and finally left near a propane heater in a shack. Just minor scuffs and a rubber plug is a little melted. That's it. Way less anxiety with this or any other sub $75 device, than any expensive cyber phone. 🐨
@pooksthepossum Sure, but there are plenty of cheap touch screen smart phones. Most I've owned were between $25 and $60. You don't have to revert to a flip phone to save money. Plus, out of all the phones I've broken, the flips phones were the most fragile. I can't tell you how many $20 ones that I went through compared to my smartphones.
How can I download F droid on my TCL Flip 2?
hey jose any updates on the f30 us google version that you said was supposed to come out this month?
Don’t count on it. They are still going through significant hurdles and don’t have an sim in sight anymore sadly.
@@JoseBriones what do you mean by sim in sight?
You say nothing about how the phones work for calls. Can you store common numbers on the phone digits for rapid calling?
Hi Jose, does the Nokia 2760 have any stutter or delay issues? For example, my 2720 flip (running KaiOS 2.5.x) took a whopping 2 seconds to go from Home Screen to the App Drawer, where as my other Nokia, the 105 Plus without KaiOS, is so snappy and smooth I wonder why modern day smartphones aren't like this. I am really interested in the 2760 because of USB C and also it's nice red color, but I am afraid if there's any stutter or lag I might not buy it.
Thank you for your videos and thanks in advance if you reply.
105 is barebone like 3310 back then nd its on rtos so in natural its fast enough cuz its not even multi task capable at all.not even for timer (unlike keystone sammy)
if they dont fix ram usage then maybe yes.kaios has a cancer in it due to crappy specs from start and even after 3 years u prob aint seein some newer sd chips on it.prob hoping a g35 with 1 gb of ram and a skeleton kaios or aosp ver where u can stuff which one apps u wanna use as default (modular apps)
@@sargera1 what
@@tuckercase2449 105 gen 2 and above are rtos hence the skeletonized os even no browser
the red is the 2780 and is unlocked. the 2760 only comes in black and there is a fee and wait to unlock.
Sorry to bother you again, but bluetooth version would also be useful info on dumbphone finder. Ideas for phones to review: Briones Boss 4g. -It might only have Italian language though. Uniwa Gionee D16V. Dont remember if that works on US lte. Cheers!
Both have bluetooth 4.1 :)
I'll try to include more info in the details section when you open the phone
@@JoseBriones Sorry I meant Brondi Boss 4g 😄
You mentioned in an earlier video the TCL Flip 2 was running Android AOSP. If so, where could i buy an unlocked TCL Flip 2 in Europe please? I’m really interested in this phone because of the privacy it enables. Thank you
eBay would be your best bet. Sadly, they are not selling them unlocked from Tracfone, but eBay may have some unlocked ones.
@@JoseBriones is this tcl the clone or oem of the famous alcatel go flip
almost identical looks and the spec too
@@sargera1 Didn't TCL and Alcatel are like same thing/brand? I always see those two names connected in some way
@@muhamadrizkyananda not exactly.they re diff brand and untill this info i enever thought tcl even did kaios/flipper droid unlike alcatel
if its a oem deal that make sense tho and prob need to be a 3 way match here lol to (shrug) kaios v aosp on diff maker instead of just represent em on single maker of each version
@@muhamadrizkyananda if u wanna listen hell behind em is also nokia yes the ole nokia not the hmd aka bunch a penny scraper ex techie of ole N series dude that migrate to Jolla when nokia crumbled
Can you make a video on how to move contacts to a dumb phone from a iPhone (it’s the only thing holding me)
You’ll have to enter them manually
I'm looking for a phone for my son for emergencies only just very basic only needs to be able to make phone calls. I plan to use tello for service or seems to be the cheapest and best options for basic service. Has anyone ever used either of these phones with tello I'm trying to find out if they are compatible and which would be the best for my situation I need an unlocked phone to use with tello.
Thank you for your videos, there's not a ton of this content out I'm surprised more people aren't looking for just very basic service
The Nokia should do fine. You can also check the Sunbeam F1. It's not a cheap phone, but it has only talk and nothing else in one of their versions
@JoseBriones I ended up getting the Nokia 2780 and tello service. So far so good. Good call quality and for just a few dollars a month I can't complain. Totally acceptable for a child emergency phone
Can someone explain me, how to check if can i use these phones in my country in Europe (Poland)?
Can you show the hotspot features in Next reviews of dumbphones?
Sorry for my English
chrck the bandwith
You should look for the LTE bands that work in your country. Then, look up what are the bands that these phones have. If they match, it should work.
Do either of these phones show caller ID name if in contacts before opening?
My TCL Flip 2 does
I currently pay about $70 for my monthly plan with AT&T with my smart phone. What would a month bill probably be with a feature phone? I am looking to switch to a feature phone.
About $10-20 depending on the carrier you choose. The cheapest on AT&T is about $30 but other providers are cheaper.
@@JoseBriones Thank you for your fast response. That is awesome.
Tracfone is $15 unlimited talk and text with no data
hola buenas reciéntalos me introducís en el mundo de los dumbphones, creo que comprare el tcl ya que whatsapp es importante para mi, y queria preguntar si el tcl puede tener Spotify o debo descargar la musica mediante mp3 gracias
MP3. El TCL es más facil usarlo así.
no esta disponible en UK, donde vivo, me recomendaron el Nokia 6300 4g porque tiene whatsapp, tiene usted alguna otra recomendación? gracias@@JoseBriones
Can you make video calls using WhatsApp on the TLC?
I tried downloading WhatsApp on the 2780 and it is not there. You say I can get it on the TCL Flip, which is like the Alcatel Go Flip 4 I believe, Is that true? Or should I buy a Cat 22 instead, which you say has WhatsApp?
The 2780 doesn't have it at all. The TCL Flip 2 has the ability to sideload WhatsApp. If you want a good experience using WhatsApp though, use the CAT S22 instead of the TCL.
Jose, I've been using the Nokia 2780 for a while, for the most part I'm "meh". kaiOS is still very laggy and slow. Often times the display time doesn't even match/catch up with the current time in the top left hand corner (so weird). Going through messages and message conversations seems like it exhausts kaiOS like i've just asked it to compute a interstellar mathematical equation. I stopped in T-Mobile today and they had a "TCL Flip GO". I decided to open and test it out, and it was LIGHTENING fast.
I did a speed test against my 2780 just clicking on the camera Icon, and the TCL opened LIGHTSPEEDS faster. The official model number of this device is "4058W". Have you had a chance to get your hands on one of these? Is it the same as this unit you have in the video? What is the difference between TCL Flip Go vs TCL Flip Pro vs TCL Flip 2 ?
Looking at FCC documents 4058W is indeed the T-Mobile variant of the TCL Flip 2. Hardware is identical. (Edit: it is however missing the emergency button)
4058L = USCellular variant (TCL Flip Go)
4058G = seems to be either Dish Wireless (Boost Mobile etc) and/or Factory Unlocked variant (TCL Go Flip 2)
Two more AT&T compatible variants exist, but these have different LTE bands for full coverage AT&T support. E.g
they support Band 14, where the other variants don't, but they also lack support for some Verizon and T-Mobile bands. Both are sold as the "TCL Classic".
4058C = Cricket
4058R = AT&T
TCL Flip Pro is a completely different model (4056S) that runs KaiOS 3.0 with KaiVA (Voice Assistant).
@@CrossStix Out of all of these models, would you suggest the TCL Flip Pro is the best offered? Even though it is KaiOS which i hate, i wonder if they have worked out the bugs to where it actually functions like it should?
@@LivermoreFilmHopefully this reply doesn't get removed. For some reason my original reply seemed to be detected as spam.
Anyway...the TCL Flip Pro still has the group texting issue AFAIK, unless a recent update that I'm unaware of fixed it. Not to mention KaiOS 3.x still having fewer apps available compared to 2.5, which seems like a step backward. IMHO KaiOS is basically dead at this point, sadly, as it seemed like it had potential.
As to a firm recommendation, I'd have to know what carrier you plan to use, how much you're looking to spend, and/or how long you're willing to wait for an unlock, if so required. As I said before, all the 4058 models are essentially identical. The only difference should be minor carrier firmware tweaks and frequency band support. Oh, and the emergency button, some have it, some don't.
That being said, I'd probably recommend the TCL Flip 2. It's the cheapest, most widely supported (at Apps4Flip) basic (but still hackable) AOSP (Android) flip now, and it should work on all U.S. carriers once unlocked (It just lacks AT&T band 14).
If you need/want a voice assistant for voice to text etc., Apps4Flip has one available.
Finally, if you want/need maximum AT&T coverage, I'd check out the AT&T TCL Classic. I imagine it's hackable, but I'd check Apps4Flip to be sure. It should also work on any AT&T MVNO (prepaid carrier) without being unlocked.
Can any of these models be used as hotspot?
Can you put the tcl into black and white mode?
Yes via developer options.
@@JoseBriones thx
3:27 and DuckDuckGo's search query's tend to be slower then Googles
Can the tcl flip 2 be used as a hotspot?
Yes
a monochrome look for the operating system would be nice.
You could do that with ADB on the TCL. But you need to know what you are doing.
Does 2780 have wifi calling?
Only on certain carriers and areas. Mine works with T-Mobile without issues with WIFI calling
Why are they so cheap in the US compared to Europe? It's also crazy how in Europe we basically don't have options when in the US there are so many different brands of quality dumb phones.
It may be free market competition of the USA. Not sure. Fewer regulations? I don't know.
In the U.S. they're willing to sell them at a loss (or at least close to it) while being carrier locked and subsidized (basically the razor and blades business model). While in Europe there tends to be more cell carriers and thus competition. So on average (AFAIK), cell prices are cheaper, but you often have to pay full price for phones. Presumably European cell carriers can't afford to subsidize them, with their already cheap service prices.
I imagine in the long run Europeans actually pay less overall for their combined service and phone purchases.
As to fewer dumb phones being offered in Europe, I'd actually argue it's the opposite. If you're only referring to 4G dumb phones though, then maybe. It comes down to the availability of 2G/3G in Europe.
Excluding Switzerland (which still has 3G by the way), 2G (yes you read that right, 2G) is still available in literally every European country, with most planning to keep it active until around 2030.
So Europeans have the "luxury" of still being able to use a plethora of 2G and 3G dumb phones if they so desire (including 20+ year old models, that may or may not be refurbished). Thus there isn't really a large market for 4G dumb phones there just yet.
That being said, I know there are European 4G models not available in the U.S., e.g. the new Nokia 5710. Also keep in mind that in the U.S. a lot of flip phone "models" are just different carrier or unlocked variants of the same phone, so the "variety" may be misleading. On that note, modern Alcatel and TCL phones are from the same company, for example. I believe that type of rebranding and rebadging isn't as common in Europe.
how about wifi hotspot?
I mentioned it toward the end of the video. They both have wifi hotspot.
I have a 2780, bought it in April to replace the smartphone that drove me insane. It's in my purse for emergency use. I prepay it with tracfone. I've made a few calls to make sure it works and it's fine. Then suddenly last month the screen went dark. I can barely see the time readout or any of the controls. It's barely backlit and I can't figure out how to make it light up again. When I go into settings, it shows 100% brightness on the slider, but it's barely visible. It seems to be a common problem online but I can't find any solution. Any suggestions? It's a pain in the butt.
I'd suggest you contact Nokia and get a warranty claim filled up. This is not expected behavior and the screen should work fine.
@@JoseBriones Ah, great idea, will do! Thank you!
The title says Nokia 2760 but in the thumbnail it says Nokia 2780 so which is it?
2780
@@sawong8685 I see
For flip phones they are awfully large. Might as well use a smart phone.
It’s sad that Nokia are cheating out on the quality of plastic and kaios. Such good designs but terrible os
can i use Nokia 2780 in india
It may get 2G, but we don't have any confirmation yet. I'd say yes, but haven't heard of anyone actually using it in India.
I wish Nokia would stop pushing Kai OS. It's absolute trash. Wish Android would just produce a super dumbed down OS with only essentials.
It is not good for most people. But for some it's the best they can get in their region. I can't avoid that reality. I don't recommend it myself when there are other options, but if that's the only option, there is nothing wrong with that.
Nokia's sim trays are too flimsy on their dumb phones
Do both phones allow Whatsapp and QR readers?
TCL Flip 2 only. You have to customize it, but it is possible.
@@JoseBriones
Hi Jose how I download what app
In a tcl flip 2???