I really hated Mother Whale. I only managed to beat it through youtube guides. I didn't have the bunny girls, but I did have Liter, Centi, Scarlet, Modernia and Privaty. It was just a race against my attack VS the damage I received back. Now onto the hoarding issue, the more stages you complete you level up and gain more idle resources which also affect the amounts you get in the crates. I like collecting resources and just leaving it in my inventory, but the best way to efficient use your resources is ONLY use them when you need to increase your power for story content. Otherwise level up once a day ans save most of your crates for future story updates.
Very true, most people say you need specific units but this vid shows you could just Brute force it if you don't have them xD. This video isn't to show minmax, just shows a proof of concept on what you could do.
Got modernia to help on mother whale. But what actually was a joke ended up being the win.....I have bunny soda, but she was only level 1.....the extension burst worked....
Hoarding crates for that long u just lost thousands of cores to increase lvls, the futher in campaing u are (normal and hard modes) the more resources u get to level up from Crates, by hoarding them and staying at low lvl and stuck early-mid campaing, u just lose thousands of resources. U should have been pushing campain and everytime u get stuck open a couple crates and level up and keep pushing further because the further u are the more resources u will get every hour and in every opened crate...
Probably what you could have done if you're gonna calculate every single time and midmax, unfortunately this video is to prove a point, which it did. Most F2p players are probably not gonna have cores, especially those who just started due to the anniv.
you' re right. i have 2 accounts. a f2p and a small-pay. the syncro lvl of f2p account is 294 and the small-pay' syncro lvl is 303. these 2 accounts will use the resources when i stack at the main story(normal/hard).
The hidden rule is, only use these box when you stuck at normal campaign and hard campaign. If you stuck only level up one time then try campaign again, stuck? Level up one time again until you reach end of normal campaign. That how to get most efficiency, but sometimes people did not want to calculate the box and use them all instantly.
Content. Lol jk. Well half joking.. but seriously if you're referring to the pre crate levels that I didn't upgrade it's because I wanted to put myself in a "new" players shoes to see how far I could take it in the main campaign. Tho idk what other gems I could miss out other than tribe towers, and while time gated, you're eventually gonna reach a point where you can't go any further anyway. Speaking of which stay tuned for ITS MOULDING TIME part 2!
I think he's referring to tribe towers... Possibly solo raid, I can't think of any other content that could obtain gems... Not unless hes referring to the default campaign gem rewards that we get once we clear the stages
@@Doktr.26you couldn't rly "miss out" on any of those things because there will be a time where u get gapped in cp hard in terms of tower//story wherein solo raid, your lvl is set so I don't rly get what op means lol
The only thing you miss out is ressources. The more stages you clear, the higher your Outpost level gets. -> More ressources Since: Higher Level = Higher passive income AND Crates value *inceeases* So clear stages as soon as you can to keep your Outpost Level at the max you can currently achieve. To max that, use enough crates to just level up and be able to clear so the rest of the crates have more value
new player here, i do a conservative approach,for example i have 165 crates of battle data set, i use 15, when i get once again maybe 166, i use 16, so i save up a big portion but i use also a portion of the resources. for example if i can advance more in the campaign i get a more lv up outpost so better resources in less time, the same if i upgrade the academy, more reward to claim in outpost but yeah i will same the 80% of my crates for later on.
Gotta minmax for that late game content bro, but that would be the most optimal approach if you can't hop over the latest chapter imho. The only reason I hoarded up to this long was partly for content and to see how far a "Just obtained 5 MLB" player could go in main and hard campaign ahaha
Good job. I hoard a lot of resources too😅. I'm playing since Feb>chainsaw event I have enough resources to lvl skills 10/10/10 Red Hood with my skill selection box🎉
Thank you for making me realize that I was being stupid for months. I'm currently on chapter 17 (I'm not stuck yet, I'm just progressing slowly on purpose) and on Outpost Defense lvl 89. I've been using all the cases imediately after I got them because for some reason I thought the amount received was fixed (no, I didn't read the descriptions) and on events I was focusing on farming Battle Data. I guess it's still too early to say that I ruined my account, right?
You're welcome! Do keep in mind that you should probably keep some and not spend it all, just when stuck. I did mention not to expend the crates in one of my guides, and no, it's never too late! There's 2 parts to it so feel free to check it out! czcams.com/video/PHM1_P8JWD8/video.html
Because I don't want to get cancelled from all the comments yelling at me in this vid I'm gonna say, if you're stuck , just spend till you're able to advance past the stage (usually 3 -5 levels) and then get stuck again and repeat. They are right to a certain extent that you get more resources if you finish more stages, and this video was made as an f2P to show how much you can get if you hoard for a certain period of time. Monthly hoarding I think should be good, considering you play campaign often xD
You need the twin bunnies. My lv is far below yours (i'm full f2p), beaten the mother whale before the cp nerf (i was lv 220-230 at that time, 160k cp). My team was dorothy, blanc, modernia, noir, privaty.
Yeah one problem... I don't have them 😂😂 they are standard banner units after all, if you've kept up with my guides I never recommend summoning for standard banner units. Also here I'm trying to beat it at LVL 200, I doubt even with bunnies you could do that
You dont really need them that much. I still dont use them since they are lacking quite some compared to my main units. I used Doro, Quency, Scarlet, Mod and Privaty till Chapter 25 and just started using Rapunzel and Mast instead of Priv and Quency. Pretty much cleared it. On the other hand: Bunnies are amazing on GraveDigger for me and I like using them there
The further along the story mode, the more we make per hour. You see this happen every 5 stages you beat. One should go up 1 level at a time and grind it out, this way the next time you want 10,000 core dust, it can be done with less crates. Those who beat chapter 26 make more per hour. And we make even more as we progress through the hard mode. Take what you need from the crates and leave them. They are named 1h, 2h, 8h, 12h, 24h for a reason. To be clear you opened them all at lowered income, which is a huge mistake compared to someone who proceeded to increase their hourly income, and get more from each hourly crate and reached a higher level within the same amount of crates you used.
Correct, but doing this as a proof of concept. I never said that this is what you "Should" do but what you "could" do if you're stuck. Most people I talk to burn through resources with diminishing returns as they open all crates as soon as they're stuck without collecting or leveling up their T9 gear or waiting for manufacturer gears first. I'm doing this with max T9 manus in the team to show how far you could get and intentionally forced my team to stay at MLB (LVL 200) to see how far we could make it in the main campaign. If not for the anniv' update, that would be at chapter 20 fighting nihlister, which is where most people blow their crates.
Yeah that's why in my guide videos I would always recommend the core dust out of all resources 😂 Feel free to check it out here ! czcams.com/video/PHM1_P8JWD8/video.html
Yeah... you lose resources by not using them sooner.. the quicker you climb. The quicker you level up your outpost. What does your outpost do? It will gives you better resources at higher levels 😮 there is no point in saving resource boxs for it to give you 25 cores over 24 cores as your outpost will give you back more down the road.
uhh no, stockpiling only gives you a very small percent gain, and the crates are based on base level, so unless you get a large increase in base level, which is going to be a small increase in per crate core dust gain, it really isnt worth sandbagging yourself to stockpile crates. I have been playing since week 1 and I am well into the 300s of level. The max level btw is determined by total nikkes collected, and the number of dupes.
Oooh, that's a first I've heard of someone f2P managing to reach 300 this quick. I don't get what the cap is for tho..? Like don't we get to level as much as our resources allow us to? XD
Holding crates makes no sense to me. No matter what you do, you’ll be stuck at some point. You are going to use the crates so when you use them does not matter. When you use them, you probably will not have to use the materials you earn overtime till later. So nah just use them and don’t worry about storing them.
Agree to disagree. Should you hoard? If you can still push yes. Should you expend as much as I did here? Hell no. Doing this as a proof of concept. Thanks for watching tho!
The cap is determined by your Nikkes owned and amount of dupes of each unit you have up to their respective max limit break amount. (That means cores won't contribute to the cap)
That's why I a) put the (Should you?) In the title and B) explained that it's justified to stack once a month ish XD. Ngl I don't think people watch this vid for a tips and trick video, if they were to do that then they would watch my top 10 tips and tricks video that I have on my channel
as i see, you should be able to kill mother whale even before claim all the credit/data/boxes, but you dont know how, cause you played recklesly in post lvl up synchro too 1) put another burst 2 with 20 sec cooldown, 1pasive healer like rapunzel, pepper, marciana or even a helm (with another 2 burst 3) 2) manual modernia, but never burst with her, always burst with the other 2 b3. 3) destroy the core (the ball i the middle) that way the raptures dont gonna have the 1 hp per bullet defense. 4) time dorothy burst a bit (all the raptures summoned by whale can be destroyed using her burst passive, except the ones who falldown after the blue circle thing: they gonna have the buff 1 hp per bullet dmg ALWAYS, even with the core destroyed) and the whale is dedge, just need to improve mechanics.
The only reason mother whale is the example here is because they've nerfed the difficulty for nihlister and mother whale's entire stage. Had that not been the case, this video would've been made during the "Big" stage boss fight hurdle with nihlister. I agree that maybe with my roster, without bunnies (since I don't have them during this time) that maybe, maybe I could've beaten it with the aforementioned methods above. But the amount of time retrying and tryharding isn't worth it to me. I'd personally and happily blow my accumulated resources to show you guys how much 6 months worth of collecting is, all while achieving and defeating the stage boss all in 1 go. Thanks for sharing tho! Might come in useful during the next solo raid/ union raid!
@@Doktr.26 even without bunnies I think you can kill the whale too! The really necessary Nikkes are modernia and liter, obviously if you have some others likes rupee/Dolla and a good DPS like scarlet/Alice helps too. Anyways, hope you got into 3% ranking tho!
for new players, I hope you dont really believed his opinion and do the same when he said 'it is worth it' tho I know no normal players would do so aside from content creators.. just do some math if wanna play normal
If you get all the way till the end, I did mention that opening your crates once a month would be the most optimal... But I guess nobody made it to the end huh.
I really hated Mother Whale. I only managed to beat it through youtube guides. I didn't have the bunny girls, but I did have Liter, Centi, Scarlet, Modernia and Privaty. It was just a race against my attack VS the damage I received back. Now onto the hoarding issue, the more stages you complete you level up and gain more idle resources which also affect the amounts you get in the crates. I like collecting resources and just leaving it in my inventory, but the best way to efficient use your resources is ONLY use them when you need to increase your power for story content. Otherwise level up once a day ans save most of your crates for future story updates.
Very true, most people say you need specific units but this vid shows you could just Brute force it if you don't have them xD. This video isn't to show minmax, just shows a proof of concept on what you could do.
Got modernia to help on mother whale. But what actually was a joke ended up being the win.....I have bunny soda, but she was only level 1.....the extension burst worked....
Hoarding crates for that long u just lost thousands of cores to increase lvls, the futher in campaing u are (normal and hard modes) the more resources u get to level up from Crates, by hoarding them and staying at low lvl and stuck early-mid campaing, u just lose thousands of resources.
U should have been pushing campain and everytime u get stuck open a couple crates and level up and keep pushing further because the further u are the more resources u will get every hour and in every opened crate...
Probably what you could have done if you're gonna calculate every single time and midmax, unfortunately this video is to prove a point, which it did. Most F2p players are probably not gonna have cores, especially those who just started due to the anniv.
you' re right. i have 2 accounts. a f2p and a small-pay. the syncro lvl of f2p account is 294 and the small-pay' syncro lvl is 303.
these 2 accounts will use the resources when i stack at the main story(normal/hard).
we should use the resources to push the main campaign as much as we can to lvl up outpost lvl for more resources.
The hidden rule is, only use these box when you stuck at normal campaign and hard campaign.
If you stuck only level up one time then try campaign again, stuck? Level up one time again until you reach end of normal campaign.
That how to get most efficiency, but sometimes people did not want to calculate the box and use them all instantly.
True, this video is just to show how much you get when you're stuck for a while
I just use them cause I’m stuck at the 160 wall chapter 20-something can’t use them anyways so they keep stacking 🤷♂️
Why would you hold on that for half a year?? Bruh you easily missed out on hella gems just from not boosting your units
Content. Lol jk. Well half joking.. but seriously if you're referring to the pre crate levels that I didn't upgrade it's because I wanted to put myself in a "new" players shoes to see how far I could take it in the main campaign. Tho idk what other gems I could miss out other than tribe towers, and while time gated, you're eventually gonna reach a point where you can't go any further anyway. Speaking of which stay tuned for ITS MOULDING TIME part 2!
H9w did he miss put on gems? He's still going to get the same amount of gems going through the game reguardless.
I think he's referring to tribe towers... Possibly solo raid, I can't think of any other content that could obtain gems... Not unless hes referring to the default campaign gem rewards that we get once we clear the stages
@@Doktr.26you couldn't rly "miss out" on any of those things because there will be a time where u get gapped in cp hard in terms of tower//story wherein solo raid, your lvl is set so I don't rly get what op means lol
The only thing you miss out is ressources.
The more stages you clear, the higher your Outpost level gets.
-> More ressources
Since: Higher Level = Higher passive income AND Crates value *inceeases*
So clear stages as soon as you can to keep your Outpost Level at the max you can currently achieve.
To max that, use enough crates to just level up and be able to clear so the rest of the crates have more value
new player here, i do a conservative approach,for example i have 165 crates of battle data set, i use 15, when i get once again maybe 166, i use 16, so i save up a big portion but i use also a portion of the resources. for example if i can advance more in the campaign i get a more lv up outpost so better resources in less time, the same if i upgrade the academy, more reward to claim in outpost but yeah i will same the 80% of my crates for later on.
Gotta minmax for that late game content bro, but that would be the most optimal approach if you can't hop over the latest chapter imho. The only reason I hoarded up to this long was partly for content and to see how far a "Just obtained 5 MLB" player could go in main and hard campaign ahaha
Good job.
I hoard a lot of resources too😅. I'm playing since Feb>chainsaw event
I have enough resources to lvl skills 10/10/10 Red Hood with my skill selection box🎉
Yeah I wouldn't recommend it if you're completely new or trying to minmax, tho I would prefer to blow things up in one go rather than go back n forth
You level'd more than me...I'm only 245 and started playing again around the end of D's banner after dropping the game week 1
Yeah, I calculated that that's about the level you're gonna achieve if you uncrate when needed and advance about chapter 23/24 ish
This video is perfect for how to make as minimal progress as possible.
Ooh how about this one? czcams.com/video/3YL9Q8WhQd4/video.html
Thank you for making me realize that I was being stupid for months. I'm currently on chapter 17 (I'm not stuck yet, I'm just progressing slowly on purpose) and on Outpost Defense lvl 89. I've been using all the cases imediately after I got them because for some reason I thought the amount received was fixed (no, I didn't read the descriptions) and on events I was focusing on farming Battle Data. I guess it's still too early to say that I ruined my account, right?
You're welcome! Do keep in mind that you should probably keep some and not spend it all, just when stuck. I did mention not to expend the crates in one of my guides, and no, it's never too late! There's 2 parts to it so feel free to check it out! czcams.com/video/PHM1_P8JWD8/video.html
@@Doktr.26 Thank you. Nice content fella, subscribed.
Eyyy thank you man! Much appreciated!
great content btw.. the satisfaction is when you saw the great leap of a number in power and level but not in the lost invisible resources.
Thanks! Be more satisfied and watch me lose more invisible resources here! czcams.com/video/3YL9Q8WhQd4/video.html
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all your hard work is noticed. That was some impressive savings. this video deserves more notice.
Eyyy thanks man
Is it worth it cuz I been holding on do them for a quite awhile now buuutt right now I’m at 213 so should I spend all my resources to get 250?
Because I don't want to get cancelled from all the comments yelling at me in this vid I'm gonna say, if you're stuck , just spend till you're able to advance past the stage (usually 3 -5 levels) and then get stuck again and repeat. They are right to a certain extent that you get more resources if you finish more stages, and this video was made as an f2P to show how much you can get if you hoard for a certain period of time. Monthly hoarding I think should be good, considering you play campaign often xD
I save 100k dust at a time, I like going up by 10 everytime lol.
Eyyy same here, lazy to do the gradual leveling, might as well blow through stuff in one go
Damn I really need them crates
Events and shops! That's where I gathered all of these once you'd done the entire main campaign!
you need to take out the core on mother whale as fast as possible before it summons mobs, that way they don't get defense buffs and you do no dmg
Yeah, pre red hood my squad isn't powerful enough to do that. Will try during the union/ solo raid if mother whale comes back tho!
You need the twin bunnies. My lv is far below yours (i'm full f2p), beaten the mother whale before the cp nerf (i was lv 220-230 at that time, 160k cp). My team was dorothy, blanc, modernia, noir, privaty.
Yeah one problem... I don't have them 😂😂 they are standard banner units after all, if you've kept up with my guides I never recommend summoning for standard banner units.
Also here I'm trying to beat it at LVL 200, I doubt even with bunnies you could do that
I beat it 117k cp lv 206 just today
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liter centi redhood smol white noah
you can replace noah with any taunted actually
You dont really need them that much.
I still dont use them since they are lacking quite some compared to my main units.
I used Doro, Quency, Scarlet, Mod and Privaty till Chapter 25 and just started using Rapunzel and Mast instead of Priv and Quency.
Pretty much cleared it.
On the other hand: Bunnies are amazing on GraveDigger for me and I like using them there
Unlocking synchro slots is never a mistake.
True, however I did this in very close proximity to the summer event, which means I could've spent my gems there instead
The further along the story mode, the more we make per hour. You see this happen every 5 stages you beat.
One should go up 1 level at a time and grind it out, this way the next time you want 10,000 core dust, it can be done with less crates.
Those who beat chapter 26 make more per hour. And we make even more as we progress through the hard mode.
Take what you need from the crates and leave them. They are named 1h, 2h, 8h, 12h, 24h for a reason.
To be clear you opened them all at lowered income, which is a huge mistake compared to someone who proceeded to increase their hourly income, and get more from each hourly crate and reached a higher level within the same amount of crates you used.
Correct, but doing this as a proof of concept. I never said that this is what you "Should" do but what you "could" do if you're stuck. Most people I talk to burn through resources with diminishing returns as they open all crates as soon as they're stuck without collecting or leveling up their T9 gear or waiting for manufacturer gears first.
I'm doing this with max T9 manus in the team to show how far you could get and intentionally forced my team to stay at MLB (LVL 200) to see how far we could make it in the main campaign. If not for the anniv' update, that would be at chapter 20 fighting nihlister, which is where most people blow their crates.
i did 2 chapters core dust only lvl up twice tf
Yeah that's why in my guide videos I would always recommend the core dust out of all resources 😂
Feel free to check it out here ! czcams.com/video/PHM1_P8JWD8/video.html
@@Doktr.26 maybe don't have "should you" in the title of the video, idk
@@snakebebop Tis a question which I answered here at the end of the vid xD. I did say go for monthly savings imho.
Yeah... you lose resources by not using them sooner.. the quicker you climb. The quicker you level up your outpost. What does your outpost do? It will gives you better resources at higher levels 😮 there is no point in saving resource boxs for it to give you 25 cores over 24 cores as your outpost will give you back more down the road.
True, just gotta wait till you hit that point where you're stuck tho. We've all been there xD
uhh no, stockpiling only gives you a very small percent gain, and the crates are based on base level, so unless you get a large increase in base level, which is going to be a small increase in per crate core dust gain, it really isnt worth sandbagging yourself to stockpile crates. I have been playing since week 1 and I am well into the 300s of level. The max level btw is determined by total nikkes collected, and the number of dupes.
Oooh, that's a first I've heard of someone f2P managing to reach 300 this quick. I don't get what the cap is for tho..? Like don't we get to level as much as our resources allow us to? XD
Bro I beat mother W at 240 but my team is ridiculous Darothy Blanc Scarlet Moderna and Noar that team can destroy anything
Yeah but as you can see, I'm level 200 when I tried to beat it fair and square xD
I only defeated motherwhale due to Red Hood, this boss definitely slowed me down.
Deffo, good thing they nerfed it for the anniv' as well. Otherwise I'd reckon everybody is still stuck at nihlister after they have 5x MLBs
Holding crates makes no sense to me. No matter what you do, you’ll be stuck at some point. You are going to use the crates so when you use them does not matter. When you use them, you probably will not have to use the materials you earn overtime till later. So nah just use them and don’t worry about storing them.
Agree to disagree. Should you hoard? If you can still push yes. Should you expend as much as I did here? Hell no. Doing this as a proof of concept. Thanks for watching tho!
i m f2p at level 240 synergize nikke.....player day one ...currently now stuck at chapter 25 .
Huh, f2P day 1 and you got 5 MLBs? Solid start.
@@Doktr.26 yup ...i got liter mlb2 ,tia mlb1,naga mlb, Scarlett mlb1 and red hood mlb1
Noice, did you use gems to farm the crates from the event faster?
Nope..... i never use gems for a crates i just playing casually...n farming crates from the event that all
Huh, wait, when you say player Day 1 you mean it's your 1st Day playing or you'd been playing since Day 1?
can anyone explain why the cap level 377?
Ngl I have no idea why that's there either, after opening all my crates I'm nowhere close to that level
The cap is determined by your Nikkes owned and amount of dupes of each unit you have up to their respective max limit break amount. (That means cores won't contribute to the cap)
Discovered mod equipment.....qorks far better..... 1k for core level vs 4k for mod equip....
Yes but nothing beats pure raw levels tho xD
Y wasted so much by just use them at one time i know y know that but some people will think this is a pro tip or something
That's why I a) put the (Should you?) In the title and B) explained that it's justified to stack once a month ish XD. Ngl I don't think people watch this vid for a tips and trick video, if they were to do that then they would watch my top 10 tips and tricks video that I have on my channel
as i see, you should be able to kill mother whale even before claim all the credit/data/boxes, but you dont know how, cause you played recklesly in post lvl up synchro too
1) put another burst 2 with 20 sec cooldown, 1pasive healer like rapunzel, pepper, marciana or even a helm (with another 2 burst 3)
2) manual modernia, but never burst with her, always burst with the other 2 b3.
3) destroy the core (the ball i the middle) that way the raptures dont gonna have the 1 hp per bullet defense.
4) time dorothy burst a bit (all the raptures summoned by whale can be destroyed using her burst passive, except the ones who falldown after the blue circle thing: they gonna have the buff 1 hp per bullet dmg ALWAYS, even with the core destroyed)
and the whale is dedge, just need to improve mechanics.
The only reason mother whale is the example here is because they've nerfed the difficulty for nihlister and mother whale's entire stage. Had that not been the case, this video would've been made during the "Big" stage boss fight hurdle with nihlister.
I agree that maybe with my roster, without bunnies (since I don't have them during this time) that maybe, maybe I could've beaten it with the aforementioned methods above. But the amount of time retrying and tryharding isn't worth it to me. I'd personally and happily blow my accumulated resources to show you guys how much 6 months worth of collecting is, all while achieving and defeating the stage boss all in 1 go.
Thanks for sharing tho! Might come in useful during the next solo raid/ union raid!
@@Doktr.26 even without bunnies I think you can kill the whale too! The really necessary Nikkes are modernia and liter, obviously if you have some others likes rupee/Dolla and a good DPS like scarlet/Alice helps too.
Anyways, hope you got into 3% ranking tho!
Yeah, hope to see you there too 👍👍
for new players, I hope you dont really believed his opinion and do the same when he said 'it is worth it' tho I know no normal players would do so aside from content creators..
just do some math if wanna play normal
If you get all the way till the end, I did mention that opening your crates once a month would be the most optimal... But I guess nobody made it to the end huh.
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