Backspin: Peter Hook on New Order's 'Power, Corruption & Lies'

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
  • The iconic bassist explains how "Blue Monday" became the top-selling 12-inch single of all time, but still somehow lost $100,000.
    Peter Hook's full interview: yhoo.it/2p2PJUu

Komentáře • 139

  • @bsmith363
    @bsmith363 Před 7 lety +226

    When he says " it's a fantastic record "
    He isn't being conceited, arrogant or lying. It is a fantastic record. Peter Hook=genius

    • @pusanghalaw
      @pusanghalaw Před 5 lety +7

      probably the best new order album.

    • @warpdag
      @warpdag Před 3 lety

      @@pusanghalaw it is

    • @novadhd
      @novadhd Před 2 lety

      @@warpdag best earlier album. I think Technique great too

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar Před 6 měsíci

      Information, not validation

  • @paulsweeney70
    @paulsweeney70 Před 4 lety +37

    It took me 35 years to realise that PC&L is not only New Order's best work (by some distance), but one of the best albums of all time.

  • @thevelointhevale1132
    @thevelointhevale1132 Před 6 lety +92

    Stood 3ft in front of Hooky in a small Aussie Pub on Sydney North Shore back in 85 as New Order played a secret warm up gig for their Tour ... place was packed - they played all the early New Order songs and a few Joy Div tracks ... there was no stage riser so the band were on the same level as the punters ... classic night.

    • @oFwaih
      @oFwaih Před 6 lety +2

      The Velo In The Vale You lucky, lucky chap.

    • @briantyson7744
      @briantyson7744 Před 4 lety

      You ucky ucky basterd- Monty Python

  • @steve1751
    @steve1751 Před 4 lety +20

    I can’t help but love Hooky. He’s just such an interesting person to listen to.

  • @djflobug
    @djflobug Před 4 lety +15

    Digital and Ceremony are my favorite songs by this guy. Music was never the same after they came.

  • @LessGovMoreFundotCom
    @LessGovMoreFundotCom Před 7 lety +77

    100% spot on regarding description of Power, Corruption & Lies... Best overall record from the lot

  • @kmalazane
    @kmalazane Před rokem +6

    One of the greatest albums ever made

  • @lololop58
    @lololop58 Před rokem +4

    I am so proud I own the original 1st press vinyl of PCL, it is an absolute treasure in my record collection. I really do understand Peter Hooks pride and would agree with his comparisons against Lowlife and Brotherhood. PCL is easily one my favourite albums of all time.

  • @petemc5070
    @petemc5070 Před 5 lety +12

    He's so right, it's their best album. Beautiful, liberating and wildly exciting.

  • @stevenmorellojr
    @stevenmorellojr Před 6 lety +40

    Great interviews with Hook. The whole series is insightful and fantastic. Thanks for posting.

  • @leedummett4412
    @leedummett4412 Před 5 lety +21

    I MET HOOKY IN 1996 IN THE HACIENDA. I WAS ON E AT THE TIME. GREAT NIGHT.

  • @wtrail17
    @wtrail17 Před 5 lety +5

    I could sit and listen to Peter Hook all damn day.

  • @dylanharkin8198
    @dylanharkin8198 Před 2 lety +7

    it goes without saying, but he's one of the greatest melodicists of all time

  • @4LT4RS
    @4LT4RS Před 7 lety +25

    Just about done with his New Order book. Superb stories, can't put it down. Amazing how he can recall such detail. I can't remember what I had for dinner last night.

  • @Just-a-guy926
    @Just-a-guy926 Před 6 lety +23

    Power, Corruption and Lies is my #1 most favorite album ever #2 The Queen is Dead.

  • @StefanTravis
    @StefanTravis Před 4 lety +33

    I want to see Kraftwerk angrily storming out of a studio.

  • @donparkison4617
    @donparkison4617 Před 4 lety +9

    My favorite New Order record. Definitely.

    • @zacharymorin5696
      @zacharymorin5696 Před 4 lety +2

      Don Parkison Same here. One of my absolute favorite records of all time

  • @Tangobutton
    @Tangobutton Před 3 lety +5

    The more humble beginnings and demise of Joy Division being able to bank that jump to expensive synths made the New Order sound and sincerity that much better than many of the other bands at the time.

  • @jlouis4407
    @jlouis4407 Před rokem +2

    Love Hooky he’s so candid and direct

  • @latexcitizenx
    @latexcitizenx Před 6 lety +149

    Not my favourite album... But if you ain't heard "Age of Consent" and "Your Silent Face" there's a nerve in your soul that ain't been tickled yet.

    • @LegPuppy
      @LegPuppy Před 6 lety +7

      true, those two tracks stand out a mile, the rest of the album isn't great. In fact, even though they are one of my fav bands, they have never been an album band for me

    • @BCTMarcus
      @BCTMarcus Před 6 lety +17

      I love those two, too. But my favourite is 'Leave Me Alone'. Maybe because that's the least 'Power, Corruption & Lies' song on the album... well, dunno. Vocal, guitars, bass, drums and a modest synth. A great Dance of Melancholy.

    • @LegPuppy
      @LegPuppy Před 6 lety

      the bass guitar is great on this, such a simple song. his singing is all out of tune but somehow it doesn't matter. The version of 586 live at Bestival sounds great

    • @tbwatch88
      @tbwatch88 Před 5 lety

      it's no Brotherhood haha.

    • @YouKnowWhereYouWentWrong
      @YouKnowWhereYouWentWrong Před 5 lety

      @@LegPuppy Same feeling here. They've recorded some fantastic stand-alone singles and have had an equal amount of great singles lifted from albums. But New Order haven't released one album that I can listen to from start to finish. "Low-Life," "Brotherhood" and "Technique" come closest to perfection, but each one of those have at least two, probably three songs I can't sit through.

  • @TheKathleenR
    @TheKathleenR Před 3 lety +2

    Met hooky back in 2017 , great memories , legend ☝️

  • @cosmug2935
    @cosmug2935 Před 5 lety +7

    Their best record, without a doubt.

  • @NumptyGrumble
    @NumptyGrumble Před 7 lety +11

    I don't remember being that impressed with Power Corruption and Lies when it came out, after the Temptation 82 remix and Fac 73 hype it seemed more introspective and didn't have the atmosphere of Movement, will need to listen to it again with new ears. Nice interview

  • @patkelly3966
    @patkelly3966 Před 5 lety +5

    Considering the direction New Order took with the electronics, and the influence they've had on dance/electronica i love that one of Hooky's tattoos features the word MIDI !!!

  • @squiresquiffy3728
    @squiresquiffy3728 Před 6 lety +12

    Movement a Joy Division album with New Order singing, hmm maybe that’s why Movement to me is their best album as a piece. Not saying that their later albums did not have moments of excellence, they did, but as an album I don’t think they ever bettered Movement. Right will whip out my copy of Power now and have a listen.

  • @Nexus2Eden
    @Nexus2Eden Před 4 lety +5

    Actually when I think of the album I would suggest to someone just experiencing New Order - I'd pick P,C&L it is a perfect album.

  • @thecitizenjoan
    @thecitizenjoan Před 6 lety +16

    Imagine if they had given up after Ian Died, we wouldn’t have Ceremony and Age of Consent containing two of the greatest bass lines ever written

    • @blumphy
      @blumphy Před 6 lety +9

      J. Montrice Ceremony is a Joy Division song

  • @totaltwit
    @totaltwit Před 7 lety +10

    By Hook or by Crook, Blue Monday was touched by the magic wand of genius. Indeed that music tech was way out of reach of many normal people in the 1980's. I could afford only one item, an Akai S612+MD280, I think the LM1 was £7000 which was price of a house. I think even Jim Kerr of Simple Minds said the music tech they bought at that same time was huge money, jokingly he said almost making them bankrupt .

    • @NeuronalAxon
      @NeuronalAxon Před 6 lety

      totaltwit - I always wanted a Fairlight. :)

  • @cleaningmyroom1000
    @cleaningmyroom1000 Před 7 lety +40

    Hooky is so cool

  • @redcoat4ever323
    @redcoat4ever323 Před rokem +2

    Absolute brilliance!

  • @kevinpotts123
    @kevinpotts123 Před 5 lety +11

    I see a ship in the harbor. I can and shall obey.

  • @funkmike
    @funkmike Před 7 lety +1

    Oh man, he said everything better than I could have put it.

  • @jamesgretsch4894
    @jamesgretsch4894 Před 7 lety +40

    Almost funny. The more copies they sold the more money they lost. Sad but true.

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Před 6 lety +19

      Their financial mismanagement is a wonder to behold. Wait til you get to how they were locked into the Hacienda.

    • @glenntaylor9519
      @glenntaylor9519 Před 5 lety +1

      Life is Ironic!

  • @iltakkino
    @iltakkino Před 2 lety +1

    breitling navitimer: this man has good taste even for watches

  • @kfoster009
    @kfoster009 Před 5 lety +1

    My favorite New Order record for sure...

  • @gretasstolendreams2154
    @gretasstolendreams2154 Před 5 lety +4

    We wouldn't do an edit because we were too awkward 😂😂😂

  • @grantmcgregor2019
    @grantmcgregor2019 Před 6 lety +27

    Er, I think Gillian Gilbert had a lot to do with the New Order sound too.

    • @NeuronalAxon
      @NeuronalAxon Před 6 lety +5

      Grant McGregor - Ehh. I don't really think so, personally - Steve Morris more so, IMO.

    • @rb8058
      @rb8058 Před 5 lety +10

      Hooky goes into detail in his book about how little Gillian contributed until they got to the making of Republic. Even then, many of her contributions were axed by Barney.
      If not for Hooky’s bass pieces, Blue Monday would have been entirely a Barney and Steve creation.

  • @Nobodyreallyatall
    @Nobodyreallyatall Před 6 lety +9

    once "Blue Monday" became a reissued hit, why not charge 20p more for the vinyl record? Factory "lost" money on purpose, as "art".

    • @DpHsHd
      @DpHsHd Před 5 lety +3

      o_0 iii That would have gone against the whole Factory ethic: never be businesslike; never make money. A sad state of affairs, because their aesthetics and A&R were exceptional.

    • @sonanderson6351
      @sonanderson6351 Před 4 lety +1

      They didn’t really loose money with Blue Monday, that’s one of Tony Wilson’s tall tales

  • @madcircle1970
    @madcircle1970 Před 6 měsíci

    Power Corruption Lies is amazing, but Low-LIfe to me is the penultimate New Order record.

  • @richardcoreno
    @richardcoreno Před 2 lety

    The infamous Akron Agora show (a fundraiser northeast Ohio college radio stations) deserves a look at some point by a music journalist/interviewer.

  • @dayman7084
    @dayman7084 Před 5 lety

    One of the greatest records of all time...Age Of Consent starts and BANG. Flying.

    • @dayman7084
      @dayman7084 Před 5 lety

      I need to sleep otherwise I'd bang it on & go jogging, invigorating album. Dunno about the Low Life comment, overall I may like LL more than PC&L which is a toughy because they are both stellar, timeless albums.

  • @RedPlasticBuddha
    @RedPlasticBuddha Před 5 lety +2

    I can listen to this guy talk for hours.

  • @TheTurkey79
    @TheTurkey79 Před 5 lety +1

    They used to play blue monday at the roller rink :P

  • @JOHNCONNOR19840
    @JOHNCONNOR19840 Před 6 lety +3

    BETTER LOVE THIS MAN*

  • @thephoenix3155
    @thephoenix3155 Před 7 lety +47

    Pete seems cooler than Barney

    • @jawoody9745
      @jawoody9745 Před 7 lety +8

      Yes.

    • @vavedern8860
      @vavedern8860 Před 6 lety

      @SgtBaker16 go on

    • @jebdunkins6796
      @jebdunkins6796 Před 5 lety +4

      @@No-to4id Hooky would forge Ians Signature but he only did it when signing new order albums i.e. albums made after Ian died. You gotta be kinda stupid to think that there's a copy of power,corruption and lies signed by Ian Curtis

    • @No-to4id
      @No-to4id Před 5 lety +2

      @@jebdunkins6796 ha he forged Ian's signature on a copy of Ideal For Living mate. Said so himself

  • @marcmistermarc
    @marcmistermarc Před 2 lety +2

    He’s not wrong about PCL.

  • @frankjamesbonarrigo7162
    @frankjamesbonarrigo7162 Před rokem +1

    It still costs a fortune

  • @Ceremony74
    @Ceremony74 Před 10 měsíci

    Hooky signed my Floppy Disc sleeve

  • @mrminer071166
    @mrminer071166 Před 2 lety

    "Cost a Fortune!" straight from Rubber-Bandits.

  • @luizbl
    @luizbl Před 4 lety +1

    Not my fave record.
    But Age of Consent, Your SIlent Face and Leave me Alone are amazing to this day and IMHO are the true breeders of what NO would become right after.
    And 4:56 the voice he makes when he quotes himself tho xD

  • @VinylSpotlight77
    @VinylSpotlight77 Před 4 lety +1

    Sad, hook was the only member w true stage presence and not they have 2 people to replace him

  • @danielspeight9589
    @danielspeight9589 Před 4 lety

    True Gent

  • @drexlspivey5828
    @drexlspivey5828 Před rokem

    Steve the drummer 'accidentally' kicking the plug out of the drum machine

  • @AdjustableSquelch
    @AdjustableSquelch Před 7 lety +43

    longest he's ever gone without saying something shitty about the other 3...

    • @thestr8person
      @thestr8person Před 7 lety +4

      I think he got all that out of him in his book

    • @totaltwit
      @totaltwit Před 7 lety +20

      He obviously feels very deeply about the band and his contribution. In some people, their upset (loss) surfaces as seemingly endless negativity towards the people involved, but it's an expression of loss. He has every reason to be very proud of his achievements.

    • @Djlullaby22
      @Djlullaby22 Před 6 lety +8

      At least he says things out loud...

    • @achn2b
      @achn2b Před 6 lety +3

      the other three deserve shitty things said about them.

    • @ragheadand420roll
      @ragheadand420roll Před 6 lety

      The other 3 are shit.

  • @larsrunkvist8434
    @larsrunkvist8434 Před 4 lety

    The eternal is a masterpiece by Joy division. Sincerely Lars

  • @deepzzzleep3575
    @deepzzzleep3575 Před 5 lety +2

    English music rules.

  • @relaxalex7537
    @relaxalex7537 Před 5 lety +1

    4:55

  • @jeremyestrada3041
    @jeremyestrada3041 Před 4 lety

    Age of consent.
    Classic fucking song.

  • @TheBerzerker666
    @TheBerzerker666 Před 4 lety

    Why the fuck don’t the original members of new order do a new order plays joy division songs tour? I’m sure Ian and Debbie wouldnt mind.people can be stupid

  • @KarzenX
    @KarzenX Před 5 lety +12

    New Order sounds bad live. Even if Hooky came back, it wouldn't fix Summner's drunken pirate voice. he is done. They'd sound better with a spot on karaoke singer.

    • @napatora
      @napatora Před 4 lety +3

      lol he couldn't sing when they first started, it's expected at this point

  • @AYKay-yb6zs
    @AYKay-yb6zs Před 4 lety +16

    For me, as a teenager, I sinking into my depression. I craved Joy Division . I rebound with my manic. I danced with New Order.

  • @MbdslEst1964
    @MbdslEst1964 Před 5 lety

    So the sleeve famously cost them money for every copy they sold.... Change the fucking sleeve.

    • @joedent3323
      @joedent3323 Před rokem

      I'm sure that the redesign would negate the money they had already spent, starting them at a minus-. I don't know the answer.

  • @DunnGolfing
    @DunnGolfing Před 4 lety

    If it could happen to new order it would lol lucky unluckiest band in the world ever 🍀

  • @lakmeister
    @lakmeister Před 6 lety +2

    Hooky is a great bassist...but was very immature in the early days...like when Ian died..."id rather go to the pub!...err?
    And he got blown out by his mrs...and left the band but wants to go back??? Sounds like Roger ego trip Waters!!!

  • @bendickinson6264
    @bendickinson6264 Před 5 lety

    He looks like Gromit with those teeth.

  • @burninggiraffe6615
    @burninggiraffe6615 Před 5 lety +1

    Peter Hook kills my love of New Order. He is conceited and defensive. Look at what he's doing now and its quite embarrassing

    • @jonesy2111
      @jonesy2111 Před 5 lety +2

      I think the Light is excellent and he can sing great... opinions are like....

    • @darrenwalshe8513
      @darrenwalshe8513 Před 4 lety +1

      I'd rather see hooky n the light play jd songs than NO today😩🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @BobsBand
    @BobsBand Před rokem

    PC&L isn't very good. Blue Monday and Low-life are much better!

    • @Thunderchild-gz4gc
      @Thunderchild-gz4gc Před 8 měsíci +1

      Blue Monday isn't an album

    • @BobsBand
      @BobsBand Před 8 měsíci

      @@Thunderchild-gz4gc I didn't say it's an album.

  • @joedent3323
    @joedent3323 Před rokem +1

    but... Kraftwerk were around YEARS before even Joy Division.