Chinese Diesel Heater home basement heating with mods
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Thank you for watching my video. I hope I was able to encourage you to make your own mods to your heater.
Notes to keep in mind:
-if moving pump, keep it at a pinch the same way it is mounted on the frame.
-I highly recommend buying a complete maintenance kit (Ignitor, gaskets, etc)
-buy a CO2 detector! Protect yourself and others.
All items are available on Amazon. I dont make any profit from links below.
Pipe - (size:300cm/118.11in) a.co/d/g5vxwey
muffler- a.co/d/b2skzzb
Wye pipe- (75mm) a.co/d/4Tvn4QZ
Vent- a.co/d/3CDEWuV
Vent pipe - (3 inch) a.co/d/iX82d93
Fuel Line - (1/4 Inch x 15FT 300PSI) a.co/d/5TFsxka
The 55 gallon drum was purchased locally for $15 used (if you plan on a drum, make sure its very clean and is the removable lid for easy cleaning)
Brilliant setup, I’ve been messing about with one of these heaters in my shed, what I am going to try and you could too is put another box underneath where the exhaust pipe is then attach the air intake for the blower side of the heater and attach it to that then put a vent on the box, this way the intake air will be pre heated from the exhaust heat 👍👍
Although it seems like a good idea I would not recommend it. This unit does have a over heat sensor that will shut the unit off at a certain temp. I would like to know your results when you do it.
I did change my setup a bit. I have replaced the original pipe with a 10ft pipe and coiled it before going it go outside. Then installed a 12v computer fan to blow on the pipe. It heats the room (10x 20) to the 74f just from the exhaust pipe alone.
Looks pretty much how I may mount mine in the basement.
A few things I will do differently - I'd mount mine so I can use a longer run of exhaust to capture more heat off of it and cool it down before it exits the building (makes it more efficient too) I'm going to try making a coil out of a long piece of tubing so there are no sharp corners and install it inside a round housing with a fan blowing air down the middle (heat exchanger) That should blow some nice warm air!
I'd also install a short length of clear fuel line in there to see the fuel flow (with the air bubbles)
The little black thing you use to mount to the combustable air intake is actually just a muffler, NOT an air filter. But being I don't really need that muffler, I drilled more holes in it to get more fresh air thru it, and lined the inside with filter material (charcoal filter medium from a room air filter) So now my combustion chamber, atomizer screen will stay clean for a better start up. Outside air is more dense and ignites better. You're one of the few that has his plumbed correctly.
Great job!
I did install a 10 ft pipe, spooled it before going outside. The heat of that definitely helps the room. Although I would of like to use a clear fuel line, I dont trust them being so close to the exhaust temp. Once I prepped the line I dont worry about bubbles since my tank is never empty.
Nice idea on the air filter. Seems simple enough to install one. I will have to play around with that to avoid the system from over heating from restricted airflow.
Good video ! Added to my "Diesel Heater Hacks" playlist - which should get you at least 3 more views. 🙂
Thanks for sharing!
The reason you should keep the air intake inside the heated space is because it increases fuel efficiency. Diesel has a higher combustion temperature than regular gasoline. If you move it to a colder space, you're decreasing the efficiency of the combustion chamber. As long as you have everything properly ventilated, there is no reason NOT to use the warmer air inside the heated space (the exact opposite of what you said).
Absolutely wrong! Diesel engine perform better with cold air. Hence the cold air intakes made for almost every car and truck. Using the warm are inside is a waste of heat, added heat stress to the engine, and decrease fuel efficiency.
Another reason to keep the intake in a separate room is for that in the event the system suddenly stops, exhaust will come back through the intake spilling into your room. On second thought keep doing what your doing and maybe this will be your last comment 😅.
@@gabrielramos1765 why should it turn back after stopping? And what could go back if its stopped just smelly air? Stop scaring people with nonsense..
@@jan_vyhnak Smelly air? Please go take a deep breath of that "smelly air" and hold it so this world can have one less idiot.
The fact that you dont understand that carbon monoxide kills, please leave the chat!
Howdy, could you explain how you did the whole power thing setup I have an old Xbox 1 power brick that I can use ! Also you’re the first to kinda show a good setup and similar to how I wanted to run mines in our house , any how please and thank you!
I have the Xbox 360 power supply. I am not sure is the Xbox 1 is the same type.
If it is, simply cut the end off where it would connect to the Xbox 360. Inside the cable should be 8 wire I believe, 3 yellow, 3 black, and two other single colors (possibly a blue and a brown).
Connect those single color wires together.
Connect all 3 yellow wires together and your heaters red wire.
Connect all 3 black wires and the heaters black wire.
Your unit should now work with house 120v outlet.
I just bought a similar one. My exhaust on full power is 444 degress at the hottest point. Have you changed any of your settings for Hz and or the motor speed? Or have you simply just let it the way it is? Ok thanks for the video
That's hot! I did not change any settings. I think my infrared camera has pick it up around 400 at the hottest but i also believe it cant get the true temp from shiny surfaces like chrome or aluminum.
I seen people online change the settings but I think that's more on an altitude issue
Wow, glad this video came up on my feed! I have a finished and uninsulated basement. Is yours insulated? I am using a Envi passive electric wall heater but as the temp gets closer to zero it just doesn't work. I am thinking about supplementing heat with one of these. My problem is I'll have no way to feed a can of diesel unless it's outside.
90% of my basement is insulated. I dont recommend putting diesel outside. At 32f, it will begin to gel up unless you add anti gel mix to it.
Yeah. I'll probably have to do that. I'm not 100% relient on it as the electric heat works but those days when it's close to zero. My office is coooold.@@gabrielramos1765
Hey Gabriel, thanks for the video. How warm will it get the basement up to on full blast? About how many sqft is the basement? These things are so cheap and would be nearly 'free' for me to run so I'm tempted to try one (or two) lol. It costs me almost $400mo for natural gas in the winter and probably more this season since it's so cold already. House is 1600sqft single story, no basement.
So because I have this in my basement that is mostly finished. Outdoor temp near 35, At full blast (5.5 hz & 52 volts) Room with heater is 22x10 no windows but a door to outside was around 78F. Bedroom with one 3" ductwork 18x10 with small window and around 73F. Laundryroom with no heat vents 21x11 no windows & 1 bare 11ft concrete wall & stairway to upstairs around 66F.
I honestly keep the heater running around 1.9-2.5 depending on the temp outside. Keeps it around 68-71F overall.
As for the upstairs of my home (1K sq. FT), I do believe the heat travels upstairs keeping my kitchen and living room around 64-68F. We keep our 2 bedrooms closed which are around 60F (we like to sleep in a cold room). I havent had to use my wood stove yet.
My gameplan within the next weekend or so is to create a 10-15ft exhaust pipe to utilize that heat from the unit to heat that room alone. Then run a length of ductwork to the Laundry room.
I will post another video when done.
Using green Diesel would be a bit pricey in my around ($4.35 gallon), but the "offroad" red Diesel I usually can find for around half of that.
Here in the UK its been a no-brainer for me. If I leave doors open (they act more like dampers now), the heat will move nicely throughout the entire house. So much cheaper than central heating which I now regard purely as a backup - I just don't use it other than to make sure its working now and then.
helpful video, thank you
You're welcome!
Saw a video using an old copper baseboard heat, finned pipe for exhaust. Maybe a fan to blow air into room....
I thought of something like that but this unit doesnt like an exhaust run of over 6 ft. I am not sure how others do it. My unit would cut out during startup and fumes would come out of the intake.
Hey Gabriel, nice video. Can you please let me know what is the diameter of the duct and where did you buy the y with dampers attached to the heater
All 3" ductwork purchased from Amazon.
Hose for Heating Cooling Ventilation and Exhaust-with 2 Clamps, Black a.co/d/51CBb7R
Wye Heater Accessories 75mm a.co/d/g88Cska
Dear Gabriel
I have the smell of burning rubber, plastic, or smelly air inside the room, even though the machine is on the balcony
Your reply much appreciated
Thanks
I am not sure how I can help you with that.
You have it on a balcony?
What type of ductwork are you running? It could be from that. When my ductwork was brand new it did have a smell but it cleared out after a day or so.
Open the case and check for anything melting. This machine had very little components.
Make sure your exhaust isn't touching anything that cant handle temps over 300F degrees. That thing can melt stuff if you dont have it mounted correctly.
Gabriel, When you were showing the original muffler that came with the heater it was attached to a long piece of pipe or conduit. Could you advise exactly what size it was and any connectors used.
Thanks
That was a temporary pipe. It was 7/8"OD and 3/4"ID electrical conduit pipe and coupler. I went from the oem flex pipe into that until my longer flex pipe arrived. It worked in a pinch but you must use hi-temp silicone because exhaust will leak out the seems. I did have a problem with the unit not starting sometimes and I think its because of the inner diameter of the pipe. Please have a CO2 detector near your unit.
Hi, im soon doing an installation and watching how others done it. Im thinking about doing it like you or put it outside the house. What do you think about fire risk? My house is wood.
I dont recommend putting it outside for a few reasons.
The heater air will not blow as hot since it would be sucking outside air rather than room temp air.
Diesel fuel does not like cold temps. Depending on the temp it could gel up.
Also, I am not sure home the electronics would hold up in the elements.
I would not concern yourself with having a wood house as long as you give it some space from objects. The unit itself doesn't get too hot, its the exhaust that can reach near 400F under the unit. I recommend ceramic fabric, that stuff has resistance over 1500F if your really concerned about the temp.
My unit ran for 4 straight months before it had an issue. The carbon build up in the chamber choked it, some exhaust leaked thru the gaskets and into the ductwork. Now its clean and working again just fine, I set my a reminder to clean it at least every 2 months.
@lramos1765 Thanks for the reply. 4 straight monhts is still very impressive. I will not run it that many days in a row. I will place it in my summerhouse and I will start it by sending sms so its heated. It gets very cold in Sweden sometimes. I have seen others use it with no problem in cold. Also I have quite big lithium bank for it.
If there is a carbon build up in the chamber and exhaust leak can it catch fire? I think it is quite impossible right? Has to be very hot temperature and high pressure for diesel.
Maybe if i want to run it with ethanol or E85 it can be better idea to have it outside...as it catch fire much easier.
@@hakanstuns43 I dont know if every heater is built the same. I have learned that my system is smarter than I thought it is for the value. The system knows to auto shut down for several issues.
For example, if:
it runs out of fuel.
battery level gets too low.
the system gets to hot. (I figured this out when I accidentally closed all the vents and the hot air had nowhere to go)
When I did have my issue, the exhaust was visibly white. I didn't think anything was wrong because I thought it was just really cold outside. Now after I cleaned it, you barely see any smoke. So now I know what to expect when I see that again.
@@gabrielramos1765 It's a Chinese heater like yours. Feels very safe.
Im trying to understand what you got going on with the muffler. It seems to mount flush with the wall. Do you have a link or a muffler name that you can post? I heard you say it was on Amazon. I'm not sure what to look for.
The exhaust will side over it perfectly if it is not rippled. If you cut your pipe and are left with the ripple portion, you will have to use a pipe expander to get it to fit.
Keenso 24mm Straight Thru Hull Exhaust Skin,Tube Pipe Socket Hardware for Diesel Parking Heaters a.co/d/jcRqopj
How much heat you lose by throwing hot air in VS sucking cold air inside?
That is a good question that I would have no idea how to measure 😄.
But, I do know from experience is if you leave the intake in the same room and the system fails or shuts down without the cooling cycle, the exhaust will back up and come out of the intake which is dangerous.
I don't think you have enough diesel! 🤣
Haha not enough.. its only because I am lazy to fill that bottle and one time my kid attempted to fill the bottle but overfilled it. My carpet smelled like diesel for weeks...
I’m curious of the fuel consumption on these heaters.
When I had the OEM tank, Its was a 5 liter/1.3 gal tank. On the lowest setting I would have to fill it up every 24-26 hours. Now that I have it on 55 gallon tank, I never have to worry about it. Last winter, this heater would run almost 24/7.
Do you happen to know where you purchases the longer exhaust pipe. And the item number
All my parts I bought from Amazon.
Air Heater Pipe Exhaust Pipe, Stainless Steel Spiral Exhaust Pipe, Universal Professional Car Parking Air Heater Fuel Tank Diesel Gas Vent Hose with Clamps(size:300cm/118.11in) a.co/d/g5vxwey
Thank you. I didn't have to look up.😊
Try some duck board around it
Good idea but I believe the results would be the same. The pump is literally encased inside, molded Styrofoam, inside a padded box, and wrapped around with ceramic fabric. Overboard 😅, but that clicking can still be heard.
can you provide a link to the muffler you bought?
All my parts I bought from Amazon.
Keenso 24mm Straight Thru Hull Exhaust Skin,Tube Pipe Socket Hardware for Diesel Parking Heaters a.co/d/5sCpT70
Put the fuel pump in the garage??
Thats my plan the next time I open this unit up for maintenance. Although with all the added padding, I no longer heard the ticking upstairs through the floor.
Dont get why people prime their pumps. Never done it and prob never will, it runs great just by pressing on.
Priming removes the air out of the fuel line so your system doesn't miss a beat.
The system will automatically turn off if it pumps doesn't sense fuel after some time.
I had to prime for a long time so that the pump pushes fuel thru 16 feet of line. If I didn't prime, the system would have never turned on.