Remember, MJ could have had 8... in a row. That was a legit real possibility. And that was against several stacked and defensively talented teams. MJ = 🐐
@Kommunik8Moor could have. I said "could have". Meaning he had a legitimate shot at making it happen. Interesting that he could win 3 in a row against some of the greatest competition in NBA history, but then in the 4th and 5th year he would just magically forget how to win. Come on now.
After everything is said and done with Lebron’s career, he will be in the top 10-15 of all time. Lebron can’t be in the top 3, there’s to many other greater players who has achieved more than him.
@@wada8658Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Dwayne Wade, Kevin Durant, Stephen Curry, Julius Erving, Bill Russell, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and many more. LeCrybaby is a bum getting superstar minutes. 1 scoring title in 21 years, 1 assist title in 21 years, no defensive team selection in 10 years. Weak handles, no heart, broke jumpshot, soft post game. A narrative does not equal greatness. Have you seen this bum play lately?
I've been saying he's the problem. they don't function as a team when he's playing. blames everyone else when they're losing... but take all the credit when they win
In my opinion the fact that he has the worst finals series in history should be reason enough to keep him out of the conversation. But let's talk about it ... He has a losing record in the finals. Still needs 2 just to be able to say he is an average finals player. He is 100% responsible for 07. He is the only one to not meet or exceed his reg season averages.they had top ranked defense and they did their job and shut the. Down all LeBron has to do was be average. That it.
The amount of coaches and teams hes gone through and still attained the success hes had along the way could be seen as a testament to HIS talent. He has rings. People bended for HIM. Now hes old. Him and Jordan need 24 min alone on the court in front of everybody so we can squash this thing for good
Terrible argument when you blame Lebron for everything but it’s deeper than that. You didn’t mention the bad rotations, players not knowing there roles, the horrible starting lineups. I get you want to bring Bron down to lift MJ up, but let’s talk about what’s actually happening on the court not narratives. The fans that’s watching the games can see how bad Ham decision making is and he has to be held accountable for it.
Lebron: most playoff loses all-time ✔, most committed turnovers all-time ✔, most shots taken all-time (but he's pass 1st?) ✔, most missed shots all-time ✔, only player to be Swept in 3 finals series ✔ 7th worst +/- in NBA finals history -86 ✔ 2nd worst NBA finals record all-time 4-6 ✔ that's not a top 5 player all-time
@@thecall0ut Had to reply and I'm not an LBJ fan. You have to put in context all these references. Most play off losses bc he's been in more playoff games...most turnovers but still top 4 all-time in assts..most shots taken bc he's played longer(and that's why he's a pass first) or he wouldn't be top 4 in assts.. and he passed MJ & Kobe on ''Fewer Shots'' 5+ yrs ago.. bc MJ & Kobe were volume shooters..most missed shots you're reaching with that...swept 3x in the finals; his 1st appearance in the finals his 2nd best player was Drew Gooden and only his 4th yr in the NBA & he faced 3 future hof's Duncan, Parker & Ginobli.. Also Magic, MJ, Kareem, (insert name) have been swept... Now, when you start talking analytics that only became statistical in the last 10+ yrs and that's because Daryl Morey started that to give novice fans something to gravitate towards and get a better understanding of the game..Lastly, this 4-6 record the first time he faced GS he didn't have Kyrie or Love and still won 2 games then the next yr he faced GS they won the title even after GS won 73 games but here's the caveat I'm sure you play b-ball and when a series is tied you run it back w/the same players right? But GS said hell no they still needed more help to beat him so they got KD.. And, again, put all that you wrote in ''context'' and not top 5 c'mon ????????
@@richieanderson3040 Not a LeFlop fan? Yet you somehow typed an essay of your feelings away. Nice try fanboy. What you said ain't context, they're excuses. If MJ had multiple coaches fired and teammates traded, he would be crucified. LeHelpMe is the one actually doing all that, yet his fanboys all pretend like it ain't happening to protect their feelings.
@@richieanderson3040 Lebron is 4th in Assists but has MOST turnovers = 5049 Stockton 1st in Assist with turnovers = 4524 Kidd is 2nd in Assist with turnovers = 4003 CP3 is 3rd in Assist with turnovers = 2918 Nash is 5th in Assist with turnovers = 3478 Lebron is pass 1st and always make the right plays right? He ain't clutch like MJ or Kobe but he's still better than them because he's a better passer right? WRONG fanboy. Lebron is a turnover machine, and he leads the League by 500+ turnovers more than the next active player in Westbrook.
So since mj was such a good teammate why is he punching guys and 3 of his teammates on tour right now dragging him. Saying what a poor teammate he was. Doug Collins never won anything in Chicago. Thats why they replaced him with Phil Jackson. You should know all this.
The ONLY reasons LeBron has the stats he has are 1. The league is soft now, can't even look at a guy without being fouled and 2. He's played longer. MJ retired at the top of his game. Cut the BS
I’m confused cause last I checked Jordan quit the bulls when they broke the team up after 98 why he didn’t stick it out without pippen and Rodman. Jordan always had the best 3pt shooters, he had the best overseas player in the 90s Kuckoc, the best rebounder/big man defender in Rodman so Lebron not the only one who had great players on his team but the difference is Jordan team never been the underdogs in a finals Never!!!!
All wrong...in the Bulls first finals in 91 vs the Lakers...the Lakers were the favorites to win....and the finals rematch vs Utah in 98 the Jazz were picked to win because they beat the Bulls twice in the regular season...the 92 finals vs Portland the odds were even with Portland having the deeper team...my gawd LBJ fans are bringing down the league
Kukoc was not the best overseas player..that's why he was relegated to 6th man......Jordan never had 5-6 elite 3 point shooters at the same time like LBJ had in Miami and Cleveland and it's not even close
@@tajlonginoshow 🤣🤣 nobody was worried about Jordan or the wizards , everyone gonna have they opinion as usual but stats don’t lie , it’s just crazy to see y’all stilling hating after damn near 20 years and plenty folks won’t even have a job when lebron gone ,you gotta be great when all people wanna do is have round table talks about your game and achievements ,talk about coming back from 3-1 besting a team that was better then Jordan ,besides d wade winning a ring there was no super team ,Bosh Kyrie love never experienced winning at a high level , we all laughing at the lebron slander these days 💯💯💯🐐
@@bayouboykoLeBron is the Worst Finals Performer of All Time (no joke) *take all a players Finals games combined and add them up. ideally you want as much Games WON and as few Games LOST as possible. this is Finals games winning % and the higher the better TOTAL FINALS GAMES WON/LOSS CAREER *JORDAN : 24-11* in all of Jordans Finals games put together. this is the _HIGHEST_ Finals winning % in history, higher than Bill Russell who ranks 5th all time *KOBE : 22-15* in all of Kobes Finals games put together. this is not bad, but not great either. its respectable *DUNCAN : 23-11* guess who has the _SECOND HIGHEST_ winning % of all time? clear proof that Duncan has been criminally under rated his entire career *LEBRON : 20-33*
This is why he's the goat yall been shitting on Bron since he was 15 that's about 26 years even his own teammates and still had to be who he became most people would have broke down look at Ben Simons every hour of the day yall tear him down while every other great gets praised win or loses Bron the goat
On paper, pure stats, Lebron is great. With all the whining, complaining, excuses and bullshit, he ain't great. Then there's the travelling... cmon bruh!
Lebron: most playoff loses all-time ✔, most committed turnovers all-time ✔, most shots taken all-time (but he's pass 1st?) ✔, most missed shots all-time ✔, only player to be Swept in 3 finals series ✔ 7th worst +/- in NBA finals history -86 ✔ 2nd worst NBA finals record all-time 4-6 ✔ that's not a top 5 player all-time
Bro educate urself with basketball U dnt knw Watchu ur saying man!?! And when did u start watching basketball bro? Lol This guy said lebron got coaches fired! Ahaha how many hall of famer coaches did Jordan have and how many did lebron have?
I started watching b-ball before your mom was breastfeeding you. Fell in love with the sport in Magic's rookie season (1979). He's my favorite baller all-time, and it's not even close. Just like the GOAT debate. I saw MJ (young then prime) in person a few times and I've done same with Bron and I find it Katt Williams comical that they're compared. MJ had the faster twitching muscle fibers that granted him the superior raw athleticism (reflexes, hand-eye coordination, bounce, hang-time, mid-air body control, quickness, explosiveness, etc.). MJ had a maniacal mental of killers in serial. Bron's mental if Monistat vaginal. MJ had superior footwork taught to him by a highly-esteemed Univ. dean. Bron's footwork is cadaver-like. MJ was far more creative with the aviation artistry. Not even Rodan can come close to MJ's aerial anarchy. Maybe you should educate yourself like they did Peter on HBO. You may have the ambition of a Soprano but the skirt DNA of Meadow. Phil Jackson wasn't $#!@ before MJ. He was an assistant. Phil nor Pippen were there in 1984 when Bird after FIRST time he faced MJ in NBA told a Boston Globe reporter "That guy is going to be the greatest ever - you just watch." Phil nor Pippen where there in 1986 when after MJ blew up that Boston Garden joint against a top 5 team all-time with the greatest front-court (Bird, McHale, Parish) ever assembled for 63 pts. Bird said "That was God disguised as Jordan." And in 87, again without Phil and while Pippen was a bench warmer averaging 7 ppg, MJ won league MVP and DPOY. Regarding Pippen - it was MJ that molded him to be Boy Wonder to his Batman. Scottie wasn't even recruited out of high-school. He walked on to some little Univ. in Arkansas as an equipment mgr./player. His main duty as a Freshman was to keep gym on point. Only reason he got any run that year was because some teammates quit the team. And as a rookie he couldn't beat out a cadaver (Sellers) for small-forward starting spot. But after a few years under Air Jordan's wings he became a hardwood heathen. And soon as he became an All-Star (MJ's only prime All-Star teammate) the Bulls won a chip. Bulls weren't $#!@ before MJ. They were being outsold by midget tossing tournaments in their arena. Nike b-ball shoes weren't $#!@ before MJ. We all know what he did for them. Scottie and Phil weren't $#!@ before MJ. He made both hall-of-famers. If it wasn't for him Pippen would have been another Derrick McKey, and I don't mean supersonic and Phil just an average coach - like the one that didn't want to coach the Knicks. A better question is what player or coach did King Flop help to become a hall-of-famer? Zero! Because soon as shit got thick he was quick to abandon ship like mechanics on RMS Titanic. And all his coaches have been in the hot seat when they don't win. His coaches and teammates catch the heat when they don't win. Even though Queen Diva is the one with the Houdini acts in crunch-time. Last year in WCF vs Nuggets, Lakers were in it all four games but in crunch-time Bron vanished as quick as Natalee Holloway. We've seen him already a few times this year doing better disappearing acts than David Copperfield. The guy is a joke of a GOAT.
@@katrinachavez3533 first of all let me educate you on Life! Since your ass hella old and not wise! And stop the HATE! And appreciate greatness that’s happening infront of you, cuz soon as he retires!! Nba will be hella boring! And I’m not gonna debate u cuz ur hating mind is already made up! Sorry lol Lebron won 3championships with 3different teams/organizations. let that sink in. And I’m not gonna even gonna bring 2016 finals from 3-1! 💪🏽 And Jordan wouldn’t be able to keep up with bron if they played this era Bron would have dunked on Jordan like he dunked on PG! 39yr old! Sink in And be respectful mr.old man and pronounce his name correctly cuz obviously media corrupted your brain and heart! Hater!!!! Lebron wants to be lebron and not “Jordan”! That’s kobe that wanted to be like Jordan!
MJ was a failure in Washington, and yes he 3 peated twice that's how weak the 90s were because he couldn't even get to the finals in the 80s Lebron will be the all time scoring leader for the rest of your life.
Lebron never won a ring without Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, and AD, while quitting no them one by one. Michael never quit on his team. Shallow thinking there buddy.
I know you all think that be saying that it means Jordan sucked. I get it but let's look at a few things. Rookie of the yr Only rookie ever to lead in scoring, plus 4 other cat First team all NBA In the play off v a monster DPOY moncrief he lead the entire playoff in PER Ove the next two all he did was set a playoff red for pont in a game at 63 whine he turned in the single greatest playoff game ever. Third yr wins scoring title and DPOY Finished 2 in MVP vore all star mvp The startines are insane. To make a comment that he could win. W pip is crazy because one can. Lestat needed help bird had McHale magic had Kareem. In that pint alone it's a dumb comment but to suggest it was in any way die to MJ not being capable you are out of your dam mind.
He cant shoot, been in the league for 20 years and no post up or mid range jumper like kobe or MJ, if it was for kyrie or ray Allen he would only hve 2 rings and one was the bubble, has the ball 80% of time, he overrated and trash.
Stats don’t lie! When your GOAT retired the Bulls lose 1 less game. Why didn’t your GOAT go on no playoff runs before? Are you really ready for this debate? I’m 100-0 🤷🏽♀️
@@leondavis27 oh boy! I’m referring to when he retired we not talking about the same. You talking about when he came back. You trying to hard & let me correct myself it was *2 less games not 1. Even then they weren’t trash they were #5 in the East. Trash is the Pistons.
@@sharathegreat7685 yes the Bulls went 55-27 without Jordan. But next year, the NBA figured them out. They were 34-31 when Jordan returned. That team was barely floating above .500
@@leondavis27 you missed the point. My point is that next season they only lost 2 less games. He’s your GOAT that shouldn’t happen without him being there. Now you going into years he was back on the team. You have no point!
Is easy to win when you have the best team in the league! Is easy to get a championship when you all-star player is on vacation play baseball while his team played conference finals with out him!
@leondavis27 don't ever compare Jordan's competition with Lebron's competition... the best ever three points shooter is on Lebron's era! The best Team ever created is the 2017 and 2018 Warriors with Kevin Durant. 3 rings less for LeBron! In other case LeBron would have 7 rings already... Read that again!
@@maxmartinez5537 lol what has Durant accomplish without the Warriors? You do know that LeBron is 1-8 in the Finals against KD with the Warriors! I like how people like to downplay Jordan 's competition just to make excuses for LeBron losing. If Jordan played in this cupcake , flopping, zero step ( which used to be a travel) era. He would be more dominant than LeBron!
@leondavis27 ohhh really! So call a dynasty team that the bulls beats on the finals?? Call a player who can make a shots consistently in the Jordan's 6 finals?? Who other players was fighting with Jordan for those 9 scoring titles??
@@maxmartinez5537 Like I said! If Jordan played in this soft era ,he would average at 35 a game. You keep trying to compare eras but you won't admit that it's easier to score.
This argument has so many holes in it g. When has LJ played for coach of Phil’s caliber? I’ll wait. Spo is the closest, then Ty Lue. Name a coach who was fired on LJ’s watch that succeeded in the league or anywhere else before or after that? I’ll wait. Also, how do you know it was LJ who had any of his terrible coaches fired? You don’t, so your lens is distorted. This is called reaching because he being mentioned as the GOAT. No, he’s just the newest GOAT. Just like MJ was to Kareem and Kareem was to Russel. Both GOATS, for a multitude of reasons.
Lebron James could care less about what these clowns say. None of them never played in the NBA. They are nothing more than haters. None of them ever went from high school to the NBA. Jordan spent two years in college under Dean Smith. He wasn't good enough to go from high school to the pro's. When got to the NBA he didn't rebound or assist he just put up jumpers and dunked.
Playing all 5 positions don’t mean nothing. That’s why you have 5 positions, there’s players already playing that role if he would let them. Oh and btw he’s not the first or the only one to do that. You would know that if you didn’t start watching basketball in 03 😂
Remember, MJ could have had 8... in a row. That was a legit real possibility. And that was against several stacked and defensively talented teams. MJ = 🐐
He wasn’t ever gonna win 8 in a row
@Kommunik8Moor could have.
I said "could have". Meaning he had a legitimate shot at making it happen. Interesting that he could win 3 in a row against some of the greatest competition in NBA history, but then in the 4th and 5th year he would just magically forget how to win. Come on now.
After everything is said and done with Lebron’s career, he will be in the top 10-15 of all time. Lebron can’t be in the top 3, there’s to many other greater players who has achieved more than him.
Top 10-15 😂😂 foh that’s ridiculous
like who?
@@wada8658Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Dwayne Wade, Kevin Durant, Stephen Curry, Julius Erving, Bill Russell, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and many more. LeCrybaby is a bum getting superstar minutes. 1 scoring title in 21 years, 1 assist title in 21 years, no defensive team selection in 10 years. Weak handles, no heart, broke jumpshot, soft post game. A narrative does not equal greatness. Have you seen this bum play lately?
@@Refining_Visionary he better than all them bums in year 21 lol how steph playing right now. Thank you for proving why he the G.O.A.T
@@wada8658 He's garbage and you know it. He's your G.O.A.T.(Garbage Of All Time). It's cool. You can like him.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 No lies told
Bron is a stat chaser.... I said from the beginning. Lebron =Pippen and Kobe=MJ.... Those are the comparisons
Insult to Pippen. James is trash. Period.
I understand..... Just a closer comparison.... I feel the same way. Pippen was good alone once Jordan left but couldn't go all the way without em.
MJ was the best, yet, he never complained or threw teammates under the bus publicly. Class!
This is real talk.
I've been saying he's the problem. they don't function as a team when he's playing. blames everyone else when they're losing... but take all the credit when they win
THANK YOU 🙌🏾 BOUT TIME SOMEONE SAID IT.
Greatest small forward is Larry Bird and its not close
You said it, I agree.
Kobe is the true Goat 🐐.
damn, bro, you got extremely high intelligence...haha, you nailed it, absolutely...Kobe is the only one, the Only ONE !!!
In my opinion the fact that he has the worst finals series in history should be reason enough to keep him out of the conversation. But let's talk about it ...
He has a losing record in the finals. Still needs 2 just to be able to say he is an average finals player.
He is 100% responsible for 07. He is the only one to not meet or exceed his reg season averages.they had top ranked defense and they did their job and shut the. Down all LeBron has to do was be average. That it.
2011 finals as well
More coaches and the more players every year same ol thing time and time again
LeBum Armstrong.
The amount of coaches and teams hes gone through and still attained the success hes had along the way could be seen as a testament to HIS talent. He has rings. People bended for HIM. Now hes old. Him and Jordan need 24 min alone on the court in front of everybody so we can squash this thing for good
Terrible argument when you blame Lebron for everything but it’s deeper than that. You didn’t mention the bad rotations, players not knowing there roles, the horrible starting lineups. I get you want to bring Bron down to lift MJ up, but let’s talk about what’s actually happening on the court not narratives. The fans that’s watching the games can see how bad Ham decision making is and he has to be held accountable for it.
Jordan needs no uplifting...he never had to cheat the game to win
I bet he will trade bronny 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why are we still debating this issue! LeBron is not the GOAT!
MJ is the greatest = efficiency, quality & conquest
LBJ is the best = efficiency, quantity & stats
I can go with that
Lebron: most playoff loses all-time ✔, most committed turnovers all-time ✔, most shots taken all-time (but he's pass 1st?) ✔, most missed shots all-time ✔, only player to be Swept in 3 finals series ✔ 7th worst +/- in NBA finals history -86 ✔ 2nd worst NBA finals record all-time 4-6 ✔ that's not a top 5 player all-time
@@thecall0ut Had to reply and I'm not an LBJ fan. You have to put in context all these references. Most play off losses bc he's been in more playoff games...most turnovers but still top 4 all-time in assts..most shots taken bc he's played longer(and that's why he's a pass first) or he wouldn't be top 4 in assts.. and he passed MJ & Kobe on ''Fewer Shots'' 5+ yrs ago.. bc MJ & Kobe were volume shooters..most missed shots you're reaching with that...swept 3x in the finals; his 1st appearance in the finals his 2nd best player was Drew Gooden and only his 4th yr in the NBA & he faced 3 future hof's Duncan, Parker & Ginobli.. Also Magic, MJ, Kareem, (insert name) have been swept... Now, when you start talking analytics that only became statistical in the last 10+ yrs and that's because Daryl Morey started that to give novice fans something to gravitate towards and get a better understanding of the game..Lastly, this 4-6 record the first time he faced GS he didn't have Kyrie or Love and still won 2 games then the next yr he faced GS they won the title even after GS won 73 games but here's the caveat I'm sure you play b-ball and when a series is tied you run it back w/the same players right? But GS said hell no they still needed more help to beat him so they got KD.. And, again, put all that you wrote in ''context'' and not top 5 c'mon ????????
@@richieanderson3040 Not a LeFlop fan? Yet you somehow typed an essay of your feelings away. Nice try fanboy. What you said ain't context, they're excuses. If MJ had multiple coaches fired and teammates traded, he would be crucified. LeHelpMe is the one actually doing all that, yet his fanboys all pretend like it ain't happening to protect their feelings.
@@richieanderson3040 Lebron is 4th in Assists but has MOST turnovers = 5049
Stockton 1st in Assist with turnovers = 4524
Kidd is 2nd in Assist with turnovers = 4003
CP3 is 3rd in Assist with turnovers = 2918
Nash is 5th in Assist with turnovers = 3478
Lebron is pass 1st and always make the right plays right? He ain't clutch like MJ or Kobe but he's still better than them because he's a better passer right?
WRONG fanboy. Lebron is a turnover machine, and he leads the League by 500+ turnovers more than the next active player in Westbrook.
So since mj was such a good teammate why is he punching guys and 3 of his teammates on tour right now dragging him. Saying what a poor teammate he was. Doug Collins never won anything in Chicago. Thats why they replaced him with Phil Jackson. You should know all this.
The ONLY reasons LeBron has the stats he has are 1. The league is soft now, can't even look at a guy without being fouled and 2. He's played longer. MJ retired at the top of his game. Cut the BS
I’m confused cause last I checked Jordan quit the bulls when they broke the team up after 98 why he didn’t stick it out without pippen and Rodman. Jordan always had the best 3pt shooters, he had the best overseas player in the 90s Kuckoc, the best rebounder/big man defender in Rodman so Lebron not the only one who had great players on his team but the difference is Jordan team never been the underdogs in a finals Never!!!!
All wrong...in the Bulls first finals in 91 vs the Lakers...the Lakers were the favorites to win....and the finals rematch vs Utah in 98 the Jazz were picked to win because they beat the Bulls twice in the regular season...the 92 finals vs Portland the odds were even with Portland having the deeper team...my gawd LBJ fans are bringing down the league
Kukoc was not the best overseas player..that's why he was relegated to 6th man......Jordan never had 5-6 elite 3 point shooters at the same time like LBJ had in Miami and Cleveland and it's not even close
Jordan retired because management was going to break the team up
It’s crazy how people constantly ignore the facts ,stats don’t lie so it’s whatever yall wanna believe ,meanwhile bron still making posters at 39 😂💯🐐
Mike did that as well. Matter of fact he was doing it at 40 on bad knees
@@tajlonginoshow 🤣🤣 nobody was worried about Jordan or the wizards , everyone gonna have they opinion as usual but stats don’t lie , it’s just crazy to see y’all stilling hating after damn near 20 years and plenty folks won’t even have a job when lebron gone ,you gotta be great when all people wanna do is have round table talks about your game and achievements ,talk about coming back from 3-1 besting a team that was better then Jordan ,besides d wade winning a ring there was no super team ,Bosh Kyrie love never experienced winning at a high level , we all laughing at the lebron slander these days 💯💯💯🐐
@@bayouboykoLeBron is the Worst Finals Performer of All Time (no joke)
*take all a players Finals games combined and add them up. ideally you want as much Games WON and as few Games LOST as possible. this is Finals games winning % and the higher the better
TOTAL FINALS GAMES WON/LOSS CAREER
*JORDAN : 24-11* in all of Jordans Finals games put together. this is the _HIGHEST_ Finals winning % in history, higher than Bill Russell who ranks 5th all time
*KOBE : 22-15* in all of Kobes Finals games put together. this is not bad, but not great either. its respectable
*DUNCAN : 23-11* guess who has the _SECOND HIGHEST_ winning % of all time? clear proof that Duncan has been criminally under rated his entire career
*LEBRON : 20-33*
@tajlonginoshow no he wasn't relax....MJ was a shell of himself at 38
@@tbjb009 if you not old enough to remember please go see the highlights
Michael Jordan had Phil Jackson LeBron had Mike Brown when he got drafted to Cleveland Cavaliers
Nobody not named michael Jordan will ever be the goat , lebron number 2 tho…
Jorplumber will never be the goat
This is why he's the goat yall been shitting on Bron since he was 15 that's about 26 years even his own teammates and still had to be who he became most people would have broke down look at Ben Simons every hour of the day yall tear him down while every other great gets praised win or loses Bron the goat
you probably think Adolf Hitler amd Ted Bundy are the GOAT over Gandhi and Martin Luther King because they been criticized for so long, right?
😂😂😂😂 There is no contest stop riding LeBron
On paper, pure stats, Lebron is great. With all the whining, complaining, excuses and bullshit, he ain't great. Then there's the travelling... cmon bruh!
Lebron: most playoff loses all-time ✔, most committed turnovers all-time ✔, most shots taken all-time (but he's pass 1st?) ✔, most missed shots all-time ✔, only player to be Swept in 3 finals series ✔ 7th worst +/- in NBA finals history -86 ✔ 2nd worst NBA finals record all-time 4-6 ✔ that's not a top 5 player all-time
Bron not even top 10 in my book.
Bro educate urself with basketball
U dnt knw Watchu ur saying man!?! And when did u start watching basketball bro? Lol
This guy said lebron got coaches fired! Ahaha how many hall of famer coaches did Jordan have and how many did lebron have?
I started watching b-ball before your mom was breastfeeding you. Fell in love with the sport in Magic's rookie season (1979). He's my favorite baller all-time, and it's not even close. Just like the GOAT debate. I saw MJ (young then prime) in person a few times and I've done same with Bron and I find it Katt Williams comical that they're compared. MJ had the faster twitching muscle fibers that granted him the superior raw athleticism (reflexes, hand-eye coordination, bounce, hang-time, mid-air body control, quickness, explosiveness, etc.). MJ had a maniacal mental of killers in serial. Bron's mental if Monistat vaginal. MJ had superior footwork taught to him by a highly-esteemed Univ. dean. Bron's footwork is cadaver-like. MJ was far more creative with the aviation artistry. Not even Rodan can come close to MJ's aerial anarchy.
Maybe you should educate yourself like they did Peter on HBO. You may have the ambition of a Soprano but the skirt DNA of Meadow. Phil Jackson wasn't $#!@ before MJ. He was an assistant. Phil nor Pippen were there in 1984 when Bird after FIRST time he faced MJ in NBA told a Boston Globe reporter "That guy is going to be the greatest ever - you just watch." Phil nor Pippen where there in 1986 when after MJ blew up that Boston Garden joint against a top 5 team all-time with the greatest front-court (Bird, McHale, Parish) ever assembled for 63 pts. Bird said "That was God disguised as Jordan." And in 87, again without Phil and while Pippen was a bench warmer averaging 7 ppg, MJ won league MVP and DPOY.
Regarding Pippen - it was MJ that molded him to be Boy Wonder to his Batman. Scottie wasn't even recruited out of high-school. He walked on to some little Univ. in Arkansas as an equipment mgr./player. His main duty as a Freshman was to keep gym on point. Only reason he got any run that year was because some teammates quit the team. And as a rookie he couldn't beat out a cadaver (Sellers) for small-forward starting spot. But after a few years under Air Jordan's wings he became a hardwood heathen. And soon as he became an All-Star (MJ's only prime All-Star teammate) the Bulls won a chip.
Bulls weren't $#!@ before MJ. They were being outsold by midget tossing tournaments in their arena. Nike b-ball shoes weren't $#!@ before MJ. We all know what he did for them. Scottie and Phil weren't $#!@ before MJ. He made both hall-of-famers. If it wasn't for him Pippen would have been another Derrick McKey, and I don't mean supersonic and Phil just an average coach - like the one that didn't want to coach the Knicks.
A better question is what player or coach did King Flop help to become a hall-of-famer? Zero! Because soon as shit got thick he was quick to abandon ship like mechanics on RMS Titanic. And all his coaches have been in the hot seat when they don't win. His coaches and teammates catch the heat when they don't win. Even though Queen Diva is the one with the Houdini acts in crunch-time. Last year in WCF vs Nuggets, Lakers were in it all four games but in crunch-time Bron vanished as quick as Natalee Holloway. We've seen him already a few times this year doing better disappearing acts than David Copperfield. The guy is a joke of a GOAT.
@@katrinachavez3533 first of all let me educate you on Life! Since your ass hella old and not wise! And stop the HATE! And appreciate greatness that’s happening infront of you, cuz soon as he retires!! Nba will be hella boring! And I’m not gonna debate u cuz ur hating mind is already made up! Sorry lol
Lebron won 3championships with 3different teams/organizations.
let that sink in. And I’m not gonna even gonna bring 2016 finals from 3-1! 💪🏽
And Jordan wouldn’t be able to keep up with bron if they played this era
Bron would have dunked on Jordan like he dunked on PG! 39yr old! Sink in
And be respectful mr.old man and pronounce his name correctly cuz obviously media corrupted your brain and heart! Hater!!!!
Lebron wants to be lebron and not “Jordan”! That’s kobe that wanted to be like Jordan!
Call me crazy Pippen is better than leflop 😂
MJ was a failure in Washington, and yes he 3 peated twice that's how weak the 90s were because he couldn't even get to the finals in the 80s Lebron will be the all time scoring leader for the rest of your life.
MJ also didn’t stack the deck like Lebron did in LA while he was a Wizard! 😂
Jordan left to retire bulls won 2 less games team sport buddy
LeBron goat of bully😂
LOOKIN GOOD TAJ , "BUT" MIKE NEVER WON A THING WITHOUT SCOTTY ! NUFF SAID !
That’s not the argument sir lol and nobody did it all by themselves.
Lebron never won a ring without Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, and AD, while quitting no them one by one. Michael never quit on his team. Shallow thinking there buddy.
@@thecall0ut say it again for the people in the back
@@tajlonginoshow Dunking on this highlight-watching stat-slobbering fanboys who never watch a single basketball game is easy.
I know you all think that be saying that it means Jordan sucked. I get it but let's look at a few things.
Rookie of the yr
Only rookie ever to lead in scoring, plus 4 other cat
First team all NBA
In the play off v a monster DPOY moncrief he lead the entire playoff in PER
Ove the next two all he did was set a playoff red for pont in a game at 63 whine he turned in the single greatest playoff game ever.
Third yr wins scoring title and DPOY
Finished 2 in MVP vore all star mvp
The startines are insane. To make a comment that he could win. W pip is crazy because one can. Lestat needed help bird had McHale magic had Kareem. In that pint alone it's a dumb comment but to suggest it was in any way die to MJ not being capable you are out of your dam mind.
He is the GOAT, in my opinion.
He cant shoot, been in the league for 20 years and no post up or mid range jumper like kobe or MJ, if it was for kyrie or ray Allen he would only hve 2 rings and one was the bubble, has the ball 80% of time, he overrated and trash.
yuuuuuup!
Stats don’t lie! When your GOAT retired the Bulls lose 1 less game. Why didn’t your GOAT go on no playoff runs before?
Are you really ready for this debate? I’m 100-0 🤷🏽♀️
Ok how come the Bulls were trash in the 95-96 season?
@@leondavis27 oh boy! I’m referring to when he retired we not talking about the same. You talking about when he came back. You trying to hard & let me correct myself it was *2 less games not 1. Even then they weren’t trash they were #5 in the East. Trash is the Pistons.
@@sharathegreat7685 yes the Bulls went 55-27 without Jordan. But next year, the NBA figured them out. They were 34-31 when Jordan returned. That team was barely floating above .500
@@leondavis27 you missed the point. My point is that next season they only lost 2 less games. He’s your GOAT that shouldn’t happen without him being there. Now you going into years he was back on the team. You have no point!
@@sharathegreat7685 they only lost 2 less games but they still weren't a championship team. That's my point
Is easy to win when you have the best team in the league! Is easy to get a championship when you all-star player is on vacation play baseball while his team played conference finals with out him!
LeBron has played with more help than Jordan. He literally gets to hand pick his teammates! Yet he continues to lose and people like you make excuses
@leondavis27 don't ever compare Jordan's competition with Lebron's competition... the best ever three points shooter is on Lebron's era! The best Team ever created is the 2017 and 2018 Warriors with Kevin Durant. 3 rings less for LeBron! In other case LeBron would have 7 rings already... Read that again!
@@maxmartinez5537 lol what has Durant accomplish without the Warriors? You do know that LeBron is 1-8 in the Finals against KD with the Warriors! I like how people like to downplay Jordan 's competition just to make excuses for LeBron losing. If Jordan played in this cupcake , flopping, zero step
( which used to be a travel) era. He would be more dominant than LeBron!
@leondavis27 ohhh really! So call a dynasty team that the bulls beats on the finals?? Call a player who can make a shots consistently in the Jordan's 6 finals?? Who other players was fighting with Jordan for those 9 scoring titles??
@@maxmartinez5537 Like I said! If Jordan played in this soft era ,he would average at 35 a game. You keep trying to compare eras but you won't admit that it's easier to score.
This argument has so many holes in it g. When has LJ played for coach of Phil’s caliber? I’ll wait. Spo is the closest, then Ty Lue. Name a coach who was fired on LJ’s watch that succeeded in the league or anywhere else before or after that? I’ll wait. Also, how do you know it was LJ who had any of his terrible coaches fired? You don’t, so your lens is distorted. This is called reaching because he being mentioned as the GOAT. No, he’s just the newest GOAT. Just like MJ was to Kareem and Kareem was to Russel.
Both GOATS, for a multitude of reasons.
Lebron James could care less about what these clowns say. None of them never played in the NBA. They are nothing more than haters. None of them ever went from high school to the NBA. Jordan spent two years in college under Dean Smith. He wasn't good enough to go from high school to the pro's. When got to the NBA he didn't rebound or assist he just put up jumpers and dunked.
Jordan was the goat yes. But Lebron is a much better player
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😂😂 call a player that will be able to play all 5 positions! Let me help you! Only one and his name is Lebron James! No one else!
Please tell him again
I’m 200-0 try me
Playing all 5 positions don’t mean nothing. That’s why you have 5 positions, there’s players already playing that role if he would let them. Oh and btw he’s not the first or the only one to do that. You would know that if you didn’t start watching basketball in 03 😂