I an a woman and a feminist but sickened by 3rd and 4th wave feminism. Women are so unhappy now compared to before and took a raw deal. No one can talk about it tho.
You cant speak for all women, what ever complaints you have you cant deny some issues have gotten better thanks to 3rd wave feminism and the me too movement
To me it seems that 3rd wave was more about gender norms being broken by women. I for one think that's a great thing. I would just want the men to be able to do the same. Why is it that women can wear trousers but men can't wear skirts? Things like that should be our focus. Cause isn't it obvious that equality means that you could be any gender and perform any genderrelated action with the same result? (And please keep in mind that I'm not talking about biological sex here. It is about concepts, ways of conduct, character traits, clothes, relationships etc. Not about the body.)
Thanks for vid. All must regester for draft and if unable to complete the front line standard PT requirements, all must face the same penalty. That wld be equal. So what freedoms do men have now that women dont?
Yeah, I don't see feminism being relevant in the West in the 21st century. There are still areas in the world where equal rights between sexes aren't met, obviously, but I don't understand young women's fixation on feminism nowadays.
@@nackedgrils9302 Honestly, I am just starting to wonder why the obsession is who holds more power these days, women or men? Honestly, I would think equality is fine, but I see feminism nowadays wanting to rule the men for some reason. I do not know if that is correct, but it is what I keep seeing everywhere. It is also what made me hate women as a preteen. Imagine hating yourself. I did not hate myself. I just hated that the power hungry women were giving women a bad name. It honestly made me ashamed to be a female until I decided to be different from them and show my drive for equality for both sexes and not just power. I would rather live to help everyone live together as equal partners than just have the women ruling over the men. Does this make any sense?
@@Wisteria_Flores I know. I thought it was about speaking for those who had no voice, but I got confused on abortion. Those children were not even born yet. Their mothers were supposed to speak for them. Did I miss something when those unborn were killed because they were an inconvenience. What if society killed all its non-conforming members because they were an inconvenience? That just confuses me here.
Black women in the United States gained the right to vote with the ratification of the 19th Amendment on August 18, 1920, which granted women the right to vote. However, due to pervasive racial discrimination and voter suppression tactics, particularly in Southern states, many Black women were effectively prevented from voting until the Voting Rights Act was passed on August 6, 1965. This act aimed to eliminate legal barriers at the state and local levels that had prevented African Americans from exercising their right to vote as guaranteed under the 15th and 19th Amendments.
I learned today that I’m a first wave feminist and most likely 2nd wave lol it seems to me it started as a great thing and then as it made all the reasonable people happy, the movement/cause was still a vehicle for change because of its success and the next most reasonable or popular faction among the movement becomes the prevailing agenda moving forward, until that set is happy and then the next most reasonable group takes over the movement and it eventually gets to the point where the agenda is so unreasonable that it has exceeded what is reasonable in the collective conscience thereby creating greater and greater pushback until the movement is so lost it crashes and burns. I’m not saying this is only characteristic of feminism, however it is the first movement where I’ve noticed this pattern I believe it is most likely the same situation for other social/civil type movements. I think we need to be mindful of this in order to get to the point where the reasonable disaffected group gets their solution and peace so that they can be firm in closing the door behind them so to speak. I think all political philosophy can go to far, you can certainly go too far in any given direction, id say it’s conceivable you can even go to far center, and it should be rather obvious that at some point any political movement can decay into no longer being a positive or beneficial thing at all. Just exercising my mind on here folks, not saying any of this is set in stone, just exploring ideas. God bless Y’all have a great day week month and year:)
Excellent post! I agree that this same thought process can be applied to most social movements. The problem is that these movements usually inspire a cottage industry of "consultants" that make BIG $$$ advising corporations & politicians about the issues. If the issue is ultimately resolved, they have to find a new grift. That's why issues ending with "ist" or "ism" will probably never be resolved to the satisfaction of activists. They simply shift the goal posts of the original grievance. The fact that we cancel people over micro aggressions speaks volumes.
@@eolay4411 no, a lot of men want to work for there money not be provided it, that’s why there are more women that have sugar daddy’s than men that have sugar mommas
@@alexkoelle9513 a lot of women want to work for their money and not be provided it, that's why they literally fought for that right. just like some men would rather mooch of their parents money till they die, some women would rather accept money from men that are offering it in exchange for services.
What freedoms now do men have that woman don’t? Somebody please tell me because I can go on all day about what freedoms and benefits woman have that men don’t.
I have a mother, a sister, a wife, a daughter, female friends etc. everyone in the present day wants equality, its the old heads who have had power in the government for 40+ years who haven't changed. the younger generations need to step up and power instead of sitting on the toilet typing away
That is a very very long list. . . I know you're trying to hint at reproductive capabilities but that's fairly reductive and exclusionary. Literally ~2-3 billion women can't currently bear children but that makes them no less womanly.
@@czickgraf Well women and men could do the same things, it's just society reacts differently towards different roles in certain scenarios. When a woman rapes or inappropriately touches a man, society feels less sympathy like that vs the other way around. However, at this point in time, women get more sympathy than men overall just because society is guilt tripped of what men did in the past.
Noticed how whenever you hear a feminist talk it's always about her feelings and emotions. And completely ignores reason, logic, facts, evidence, statistics, data, personal accountability and most importantly common sense!
@@melo-cotton7096 Thank you for proving my entire point. Typical left-wing propaganda, one man hits a woman so blame all men and then paint all men with the same misandry brush. One evil man grapes a woman so now all men are grapists. Typical daft leftist complains about straw man arguments while at the exact same time regurgitating your own straw man argument. My comment is not false because every time women speak on this subject every thing they say is based on their feelings and emotions that they are feeling at that time. That isn’t my opinion that’s a fact. Feminism is so intellectually dishonest because men and women are not the same. And because we are not the same that is the reason why we don’t get treated the same. The reason why feminism is a joke is because women are not oppressed by men and there is no gender pay gap. And anyone who says there is a pay gap is outright lying because it is illegal to pay a woman less money than a man for doing the exact same job by law. And since women are not oppressed by men can you then please tell me one thing a man can do but a woman can’t in the western world? And the answer is there isn’t. Your BS only works on the ignorant, the uneducated, and the daft. Nice try DH.
@@melo-cotton7096 that also applies to women. Do you think that there is no case of reverse rape, domestic violence, and revenge porn done by women to men?
Last best wave of feminism is 2nd wave
All shit
I an a woman and a feminist but sickened by 3rd and 4th wave feminism. Women are so unhappy now compared to before and took a raw deal. No one can talk about it tho.
Applause to you. I agree, bring back second wave feminism.
Thats sad that your a feminest
You cant speak for all women, what ever complaints you have you cant deny some issues have gotten better thanks to 3rd wave feminism and the me too movement
you can't be serious rn
@@leticiast unironically you sound like an unhappy and ungrateful person
Easiest way ive been able to describe it, in relation to men, is:
1st wave = some power
2nd wave = equal power
3rd wave = more power
cap
4th wave = all the power
Yeah that’s literally it. And I’m saying this as a woman too.
Dumbass
Based.
I like this- quick and straight to the point.
1st and 2nd waves were fighting for equality, 3rd and 4th waves are fighting for previlegies
To me it seems that 3rd wave was more about gender norms being broken by women. I for one think that's a great thing. I would just want the men to be able to do the same. Why is it that women can wear trousers but men can't wear skirts? Things like that should be our focus. Cause isn't it obvious that equality means that you could be any gender and perform any genderrelated action with the same result? (And please keep in mind that I'm not talking about biological sex here. It is about concepts, ways of conduct, character traits, clothes, relationships etc. Not about the body.)
True
I love 2nd wave feminism. It was much needed during 60s
Thanks for vid.
All must regester for draft and if unable to complete the front line standard PT requirements, all must face the same penalty. That wld be equal. So what freedoms do men have now that women dont?
Men have the extra freedom to pay for child support. We are so lucky. 🎉
And women today are more miserable than ever.
1:05 THE EQUAL RIGHTS ACT DID NOT PASS!!! We’re STILL trying to get it passed!
It did pass. It just wasn't ratified by certain states.
The 1964 civil rights act covers it
I would love to see it passed and watch woman sign up for the draft to be able to vote, and own a driver license, just like man has to :)
Several states have still not ratified the equal rights amendment
Because it's not necessary to ratify it. Most amendments are not ratified by all states. It's just not necessary
Also women should be included in the draft
@@henkschrader4513there shouldn’t be a draft at all.
@@ashy7230 well then we would have to defeat russia or china bc otherwise they'll take our lands and suspend freedom of speech among other things...
@ashy7230 no one man or woman should fight if they don't want to
Correct your video, ERA never "passed" it has never been ratified.
same freedom as men... then I ask. what men can do, that women cant?
Yeah, I don't see feminism being relevant in the West in the 21st century. There are still areas in the world where equal rights between sexes aren't met, obviously, but I don't understand young women's fixation on feminism nowadays.
Honestly nowadays in the west feminism is pretty much trying to get *more* rights than men
@@nackedgrils9302 Honestly, I am just starting to wonder why the obsession is who holds more power these days, women or men? Honestly, I would think equality is fine, but I see feminism nowadays wanting to rule the men for some reason. I do not know if that is correct, but it is what I keep seeing everywhere. It is also what made me hate women as a preteen. Imagine hating yourself. I did not hate myself. I just hated that the power hungry women were giving women a bad name. It honestly made me ashamed to be a female until I decided to be different from them and show my drive for equality for both sexes and not just power. I would rather live to help everyone live together as equal partners than just have the women ruling over the men. Does this make any sense?
@@autumngargus9301 feminism is all about equal rights- definitely not about ruling over men
@@Wisteria_Flores I know. I thought it was about speaking for those who had no voice, but I got confused on abortion. Those children were not even born yet. Their mothers were supposed to speak for them. Did I miss something when those unborn were killed because they were an inconvenience. What if society killed all its non-conforming members because they were an inconvenience? That just confuses me here.
Ye music tune kyu lagai hai...irritated feel ho rahi...achha concept ko kharab kar rahe ho....😕
Lies and half truths
0:44 was it just white women ? Plz answer quick
This isn't quick (lol) but yes. Black women and trans people started being included by the 3rd wave, which is unfortunately not in the video.
Black women in the United States gained the right to vote with the ratification of the 19th Amendment on August 18, 1920, which granted women the right to vote. However, due to pervasive racial discrimination and voter suppression tactics, particularly in Southern states, many Black women were effectively prevented from voting until the Voting Rights Act was passed on August 6, 1965. This act aimed to eliminate legal barriers at the state and local levels that had prevented African Americans from exercising their right to vote as guaranteed under the 15th and 19th Amendments.
@@spacecadet86123rd wave? You're saying black women couldn't vote until 1990? The Voting Rights Act was passed in August 6th, 1965..
Men and women are equal, but not the same.
No one turns on a video to read captions
If you don't like it then just turn off the video man.. Not everything has to be catered to you
I learned today that I’m a first wave feminist and most likely 2nd wave lol it seems to me it started as a great thing and then as it made all the reasonable people happy, the movement/cause was still a vehicle for change because of its success and the next most reasonable or popular faction among the movement becomes the prevailing agenda moving forward, until that set is happy and then the next most reasonable group takes over the movement and it eventually gets to the point where the agenda is so unreasonable that it has exceeded what is reasonable in the collective conscience thereby creating greater and greater pushback until the movement is so lost it crashes and burns. I’m not saying this is only characteristic of feminism, however it is the first movement where I’ve noticed this pattern I believe it is most likely the same situation for other social/civil type movements. I think we need to be mindful of this in order to get to the point where the reasonable disaffected group gets their solution and peace so that they can be firm in closing the door behind them so to speak. I think all political philosophy can go to far, you can certainly go too far in any given direction, id say it’s conceivable you can even go to far center, and it should be rather obvious that at some point any political movement can decay into no longer being a positive or beneficial thing at all. Just exercising my mind on here folks, not saying any of this is set in stone, just exploring ideas. God bless Y’all have a great day week month and year:)
im anti feminest
Aint nobody reading all that😄
Excellent post! I agree that this same thought process can be applied to most social movements. The problem is that these movements usually inspire a cottage industry of "consultants" that make BIG $$$ advising corporations & politicians about the issues. If the issue is ultimately resolved, they have to find a new grift. That's why issues ending with "ist" or "ism" will probably never be resolved to the satisfaction of activists. They simply shift the goal posts of the original grievance. The fact that we cancel people over micro aggressions speaks volumes.
Judge men as people, not as walking wallets.
Well as a feminist you'd want that too 😏
@@eolay4411 no, a lot of men want to work for there money not be provided it, that’s why there are more women that have sugar daddy’s than men that have sugar mommas
lol a lot of woman downvoted you which is why you're at the bottom. I'm a woman and I agree with you
No offensive but read the room
@@alexkoelle9513 a lot of women want to work for their money and not be provided it, that's why they literally fought for that right. just like some men would rather mooch of their parents money till they die, some women would rather accept money from men that are offering it in exchange for services.
Thank you
thanks
What freedoms now do men have that woman don’t? Somebody please tell me because I can go on all day about what freedoms and benefits woman have that men don’t.
What rights do men have that women don’t have?? What can men do that women can’t?
getting drafted
@@frankmesa4579 precisely 😂
White men have proper access to healthcare, have equal pay, and are able to walk safely at night without fear of being fucking raped or murdered
I honestly would rather women didn't get drafted. It's not really a good thing lol
You can ask Saudi Arabia
I have a mother, a sister, a wife, a daughter, female friends etc. everyone in the present day wants equality, its the old heads who have had power in the government for 40+ years who haven't changed. the younger generations need to step up and power instead of sitting on the toilet typing away
its giving gewl
One wonders what women can do that men cant. Any guesses?
Men can't play netball in the olympics
That is a very very long list.
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I know you're trying to hint at reproductive capabilities but that's fairly reductive and exclusionary. Literally ~2-3 billion women can't currently bear children but that makes them no less womanly.
How would you add to the list though of things women can do that men cannot? If the answer involves defining womanhood, I'm not sure that is possible.
Get pregnant?
@@czickgraf Well women and men could do the same things, it's just society reacts differently towards different roles in certain scenarios. When a woman rapes or inappropriately touches a man, society feels less sympathy like that vs the other way around. However, at this point in time, women get more sympathy than men overall just because society is guilt tripped of what men did in the past.
Noticed how whenever you hear a feminist talk it's always about her feelings and emotions. And completely ignores reason, logic, facts, evidence, statistics, data, personal accountability and most importantly common sense!
That's totally false. Lots of stats about domestic violence, rapes, and about any issue. Stupid straw man argument.
@@melo-cotton7096 Thank you for proving my entire point. Typical left-wing propaganda, one man hits a woman so blame all men and then paint all men with the same misandry brush. One evil man grapes a woman so now all men are grapists. Typical daft leftist complains about straw man arguments while at the exact same time regurgitating your own straw man argument.
My comment is not false because every time women speak on this subject every thing they say is based on their feelings and emotions that they are feeling at that time. That isn’t my opinion that’s a fact.
Feminism is so intellectually dishonest because men and women are not the same. And because we are not the same that is the reason why we don’t get treated the same. The reason why feminism is a joke is because women are not oppressed by men and there is no gender pay gap. And anyone who says there is a pay gap is outright lying because it is illegal to pay a woman less money than a man for doing the exact same job by law.
And since women are not oppressed by men can you then please tell me one thing a man can do but a woman can’t in the western world? And the answer is there isn’t.
Your BS only works on the ignorant, the uneducated, and the daft. Nice try DH.
@@melo-cotton7096 that also applies to women. Do you think that there is no case of reverse rape, domestic violence, and revenge porn done by women to men?
@@morasiregar1052 in fact, domestic violence is about equal, with a slight leaning towards women doing it
such bullshit. have you listened to germaine greer? what feminists are you talking about. do any of them study any theory? doubt it