Did Uthman's Mushafs Contain All of the Seven Ahruf? (هل تشتمل المصاحف العثمانية على الأحرف السبعة؟)

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  • @AlMiftahulIslam
    @AlMiftahulIslam Před 4 lety +26

    🔰Lesson 11: The Mushafs and the Seven Ahruf
    🎯Did the Mushafs of Uthman(may Allah be pleased with him) have the Seven Ahruf?
    Ans: The answer depends on what do you mean by the seven Ahruf. So, depending on the definition there are three views regarding it.
    📑The first view is that the Mushafs only contained the Harf of the Quraish.(1:20)
    (2:30)- Their first argument is the speech of Uthman(may Allah be pleased with him)
    (3:25)- Their second argument
    (4:20)(5:40)(6:20)- The response to their arguments 👈
    📑The second view is that the Mushafs contained all the seven Ahruf(6:50)
    Their first argument is that the Ummah can't reject any Harf that was sent down from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. The also argued that the Mushafs of Uthman(may Allah be pleased with him) was copied from the Mushaf of Abu Bakr(may Allah be pleased with him).(8:00)
    (9:08)- Their refutations 👈
    📑The third view is that the Mushafs of Uthman(may Allah be pleased with him) contained the last and final verses of the Qur'aan that ware sent down to this Ummah.(12:00) This is the view held by overwhelming majority of scholars.
    (13:55)(14:40)(15:10)- Their arguments regarding their view.
    And Allah knows the best.

    • @consciousmuslim2599
      @consciousmuslim2599 Před 2 lety +1

      «صحيح البخاري» (6/ 183 ط السلطانية):
      4987 - حَدَّثَنَا ‌مُوسَى، حَدَّثَنَا ‌إِبْرَاهِيمُ ، حَدَّثَنَا ‌ابْنُ شِهَابٍ أَنَّ ‌أَنَسَ بْنَ مَالِكٍ حَدَّثَهُ: «أَنَّ حُذَيْفَةَ بْنَ الْيَمَانِ قَدِمَ عَلَى عُثْمَانَ، وَكَانَ يُغَازِي أَهْلَ الشَّأْمِ فِي فَتْحِ إِرْمِينِيَةَ وَأَذْرَبِيجَانَ مَعَ أَهْلِ الْعِرَاقِ، فَأَفْزَعَ حُذَيْفَةَ اخْتِلَافُهُمْ فِي الْقِرَاءَةِ، فَقَالَ حُذَيْفَةُ لِعُثْمَانَ: يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ، أَدْرِكْ هَذِهِ الْأُمَّةَ قَبْلَ
      أَنْ يَخْتَلِفُوا فِي الْكِتَابِ، اخْتِلَافَ الْيَهُودِ وَالنَّصَارَى، فَأَرْسَلَ عُثْمَانُ إِلَى حَفْصَةَ: أَنْ أَرْسِلِي إِلَيْنَا بِالصُّحُفِ نَنْسَخُهَا فِي الْمَصَاحِفِ ثُمَّ نَرُدُّهَا إِلَيْكِ، فَأَرْسَلَتْ بِهَا حَفْصَةُ إِلَى عُثْمَانَ، فَأَمَرَ زَيْدَ بْنَ ثَابِتٍ، وَعَبْدَ اللهِ بْنَ الزُّبَيْرِ، وَسَعِيدَ بْنَ الْعَاصِ، وَعَبْدَ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنَ الْحَارِثِ بْنِ هِشَامٍ، فَنَسَخُوهَا فِي الْمَصَاحِفِ، وَقَالَ عُثْمَانُ لِلرَّهْطِ الْقُرَشِيِّينَ الثَّلَاثَةِ: إِذَا اخْتَلَفْتُمْ أَنْتُمْ وَزَيْدُ بْنُ ثَابِتٍ فِي شَيْءٍ مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ فَاكْتُبُوهُ بِلِسَانِ قُرَيْشٍ، فَإِنَّمَا نَزَلَ بِلِسَانِهِمْ، فَفَعَلُوا، حَتَّى إِذَا نَسَخُوا الصُّحُفَ فِي الْمَصَاحِفِ رَدَّ عُثْمَانُ الصُّحُفَ إِلَى حَفْصَةَ، وَأَرْسَلَ إِلَى كُلِّ أُفُقٍ بِمُصْحَفٍ مِمَّا نَسَخُوا، وَأَمَرَ بِمَا سِوَاهُ مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ فِي كُلِّ ‌صَحِيفَةٍ ‌أَوْ ‌مُصْحَفٍ ‌أَنْ ‌يُحْرَقَ»
      Did uthman (r) burned the Quran or not , what is your opinions regarding this hadith

    • @mahmoud2202
      @mahmoud2202 Před 2 lety +1

      SHUT UP U FOOLS!
      THE QURAAN WAS REVEALED IN ONE DIALECT, WHICH WAS THE PROPER DIALECT (THE QURAISH's), WHICH WAS THE TONGUE OF THE PROPHET a.s:-
      سُوۡرَةُ إبراهیم
      وَمَآ أَرۡسَلۡنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا بِلِسَانِ قَوۡمِهِۦ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمۡ‌ۖ فَيُضِلُّ ٱللَّهُ مَن يَشَآءُ وَيَهۡدِى مَن يَشَآءُ‌ۚ وَهُوَ ٱلۡعَزِيزُ ٱلۡحَكِيمُ (٤)
      Surah Ibrahim
      We sent not a messenger except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now Allah leaves stray those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, Full of Wisdom. (4)
      -----------
      سُوۡرَةُ مَریَم
      فَإِنَّمَا يَسَّرۡنَـٰهُ بِلِسَانِكَ لِتُبَشِّرَ بِهِ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ وَتُنذِرَ بِهِۦ قَوۡمً۬ا لُّدًّ۬ا (٩٧)
      Surah Maryam
      So have We made the (Qur'an) easy in thine own tongue, that with it thou mayest give Glad Tidings to the righteous and warnings to people given to contention. (97)
      ----------
      سُوۡرَةُ الدّخان
      فَإِنَّمَا يَسَّرۡنَـٰهُ بِلِسَانِكَ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَتَذَڪَّرُونَ (٥٨)
      Surah Ad-Dukhan
      Verily, We have made this (Qur'an) easy, in thy tongue, in order that they may give heed. (58)
      ==========
      AS U IDIOTS KNOW THAT, VARIOUS DIALECTS TWIST THE MEANING OF SOME VERSES, AND SOMETIMES GIVE CONTRADICTIVE MEANING U IGNORANT FOOL MUSLIM, NOT UNDERSTANDING/COMPREHENDING YOUR QURAAN, SO TO SERVE CERTAIN IDEOLOGY.
      * WOE TO BLOODY U!

    • @Rezw.nn14
      @Rezw.nn14 Před rokem +2

      @@mahmoud2202 guess u reject the hadiths explaining the 7 dialects. Rejecting a revelation sent down is kufr.

    • @HakimJamil94
      @HakimJamil94 Před rokem +1

      ​@@mahmoud2202 Man, you really need to understand the words لسان and قوم

    • @istiaquebeenkhurshid9892
      @istiaquebeenkhurshid9892 Před rokem +1

      @@mahmoud2202 that's where you are wrong - they DO NOT CONTRADICT

  • @yusranrazi2414
    @yusranrazi2414 Před 3 lety +1

    Great info ustadzh...barakallahu fiik

  • @thegreatmind9178
    @thegreatmind9178 Před 4 lety +6

    Ma shaa Allah jazakallahukheir sheikh. May Allah bless you in life abundantly. Indeed a beneficial Islamic knowledge series.

  • @sephatu6521
    @sephatu6521 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Probably one of the most clear explanation to this. Jazakallah khair. Also great for mentioning the sources as well.

    • @abdulbasit-cn9ek
      @abdulbasit-cn9ek Před 9 měsíci

      12:47 what did he mean by final version?

    • @israfilangel8062
      @israfilangel8062 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@abdulbasit-cn9ek he was talking about the last sitting of the prophet peace be upon him when he was visited by the Angel Jibreel for the last time before the prophet peace be upon him passed away, so he recited the Qur’an upon him in its final form which is the one that we have now without the abrogated verses etc.

  • @ramialmalky
    @ramialmalky Před 2 lety

    جزاكم الله خيرا

  • @Wakobear.
    @Wakobear. Před 3 lety +2

    جزاك الله خيرًا

  • @housse51
    @housse51 Před 2 lety

    Alhamdulillah thumma alhamdulillah.. jazakallah khairan ya ustadh

  • @thegreatmind9178
    @thegreatmind9178 Před 4 lety +9

    The holy Qur'an ,our honour our blessed book. important lectures for us to learn on our Quran from our sheikhs. اللهم جعلنا من اهل القرآن

    • @AlMiftahulIslam
      @AlMiftahulIslam Před 4 lety +2

      Yes, the Glorious Quran is an hounour and a blessing from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to all of the humanity.

    • @mahmoud2202
      @mahmoud2202 Před 2 lety +1

      SHUT UP U FOOLS!
      THE QURAAN WAS REVEALED IN ONE DIALECT, WHICH WAS THE PROPER DIALECT (THE QURAISH's), WHICH WAS THE TONGUE OF THE PROPHET a.s:-
      سُوۡرَةُ إبراهیم
      وَمَآ أَرۡسَلۡنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا بِلِسَانِ قَوۡمِهِۦ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمۡ‌ۖ فَيُضِلُّ ٱللَّهُ مَن يَشَآءُ وَيَهۡدِى مَن يَشَآءُ‌ۚ وَهُوَ ٱلۡعَزِيزُ ٱلۡحَكِيمُ (٤)
      Surah Ibrahim
      We sent not a messenger except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now Allah leaves stray those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, Full of Wisdom. (4)
      -----------
      سُوۡرَةُ مَریَم
      فَإِنَّمَا يَسَّرۡنَـٰهُ بِلِسَانِكَ لِتُبَشِّرَ بِهِ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ وَتُنذِرَ بِهِۦ قَوۡمً۬ا لُّدًّ۬ا (٩٧)
      Surah Maryam
      So have We made the (Qur'an) easy in thine own tongue, that with it thou mayest give Glad Tidings to the righteous and warnings to people given to contention. (97)
      ----------
      سُوۡرَةُ الدّخان
      فَإِنَّمَا يَسَّرۡنَـٰهُ بِلِسَانِكَ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَتَذَڪَّرُونَ (٥٨)
      Surah Ad-Dukhan
      Verily, We have made this (Qur'an) easy, in thy tongue, in order that they may give heed. (58)
      ==========
      AS U IDIOTS KNOW THAT, VARIOUS DIALECTS TWIST THE MEANING OF SOME VERSES, AND SOMETIMES GIVE CONTRADICTIVE MEANING U IGNORANT FOOL MUSLIM, NOT UNDERSTANDING/COMPREHENDING YOUR QURAAN, SO TO SERVE CERTAIN IDEOLOGY.
      * WOE TO BLOODY U!

  • @asifuzzaman924
    @asifuzzaman924 Před 4 lety +13

    Brother, there are many atheists and ex muslim are propagating many doubts about islam. Many muslims are seeing their videos and start doubting due to less responses. There are few brothers who are refuting them but this is not enough. Please respond to those questions.Brother Farid responds, abdullah al andalusi and some of them are doing but more people should come in this field. For the sake of ALLAH give effort in this field with other scholars like you. May ALLAH give you success.

    • @interqward1
      @interqward1 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah Farid - Gangu Teli, as Mufti Abu Layth calls him. Oh he will really help you - 'the reason there is no independent report about the moon being split in two is because... ...most people were asleep at night.' Oh, nice one, Gangu Teli! lol

    • @critikzplayz8119
      @critikzplayz8119 Před 2 lety +5

      @@interqward1 Have you even Farid's full video on that, or re you just cutting what he said? lmao get out.

    • @interqward1
      @interqward1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@critikzplayz8119 Yes, I took him 'our of context' and also, everything he said has been corrupted, or and I also 'misinterpreted has nonsense,' and, let me think, what else... ...I have a dark heart. Meanwhile, Murad, Joe, Mel and Jay Smith have absolutely OBLITERATED Islam this year. Notwithstanding that Sheikh Yasir Qadhi began the shovel work very manfully. LOL
      No matter how much 'machine-guy fast Arabic' Abdulrahman Hassan here can fire off, it's a waste of time. Islam is an utterly false religious ideology flowing from Umar when he tried to re-write the Babylonian Talmud into Syriac and Syro-Arabic. Full of holes. 2021 - Islam is finished.

    • @critikzplayz8119
      @critikzplayz8119 Před 2 lety +4

      @@interqward1 Oh no, we are done for sure. 😂

    • @critikzplayz8119
      @critikzplayz8119 Před 2 lety +5

      @@interqward1 Also show me references, where did you get that last bit of information from about Umar copying from the Talmud.

  • @purplerain2205
    @purplerain2205 Před 4 lety +3

    JazakAllahKheir I'd like to see actual examples of the 7 different forms of Ahruf found in each of the mushafs of Uthman ... Please provide examples InshaAllah

    • @anmfarhan6867
      @anmfarhan6867 Před 4 lety +1

      check his channel, few episodes ago he did a podcast with sheikh who mastered all the 10 qiraat. in that podcast lots of examples are given.

    • @zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651
      @zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 Před 3 lety

      @@anmfarhan6867 please give us the link. jazakAllaah khoir

    • @mahmoud-quran
      @mahmoud-quran Před 2 lety

      @@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 czcams.com/video/vCKAOZMw0wM/video.html

  • @user-dx5ie3uv8m
    @user-dx5ie3uv8m Před 4 lety

    Jazkallah

  • @drvally9493
    @drvally9493 Před 2 lety +1

    May Allah bless you. Needed this explanation.

    • @mahmoud2202
      @mahmoud2202 Před 2 lety

      Dr Vally: SHUT UP U FOOLS!
      THE QURAAN WAS REVEALED IN ONE DIALECT, WHICH WAS THE PROPER DIALECT (THE QURAISH's), WHICH WAS THE TONGUE OF THE PROPHET a.s:-
      سُوۡرَةُ إبراهیم
      وَمَآ أَرۡسَلۡنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا بِلِسَانِ قَوۡمِهِۦ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمۡ‌ۖ فَيُضِلُّ ٱللَّهُ مَن يَشَآءُ وَيَهۡدِى مَن يَشَآءُ‌ۚ وَهُوَ ٱلۡعَزِيزُ ٱلۡحَكِيمُ (٤)
      Surah Ibrahim
      We sent not a messenger except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now Allah leaves stray those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, Full of Wisdom. (4)
      -----------
      سُوۡرَةُ مَریَم
      فَإِنَّمَا يَسَّرۡنَـٰهُ بِلِسَانِكَ لِتُبَشِّرَ بِهِ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ وَتُنذِرَ بِهِۦ قَوۡمً۬ا لُّدًّ۬ا (٩٧)
      Surah Maryam
      So have We made the (Qur'an) easy in thine own tongue, that with it thou mayest give Glad Tidings to the righteous and warnings to people given to contention. (97)
      ----------
      سُوۡرَةُ الدّخان
      فَإِنَّمَا يَسَّرۡنَـٰهُ بِلِسَانِكَ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَتَذَڪَّرُونَ (٥٨)
      Surah Ad-Dukhan
      Verily, We have made this (Qur'an) easy, in thy tongue, in order that they may give heed. (58)
      ==========
      AS U IDIOTS KNOW THAT, VARIOUS DIALECTS TWIST THE MEANING OF SOME VERSES, AND SOMETIMES GIVE CONTRADICTIVE MEANING U IGNORANT FOOL MUSLIM, NOT UNDERSTANDING/COMPREHENDING YOUR QURAAN, SO TO SERVE CERTAIN IDEOLOGY.
      * WOE TO BLOODY U!

    • @drvally9493
      @drvally9493 Před 2 lety +4

      @@mahmoud2202 حديث ابن عباس عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم : " أقرأني جبريل على حرف فراجعته فزادني فلم أزل أستزيده ويزيدني حتى انتهى على سبعة أحرف " . رواه البخاري ( 3047 ) ومسلم ( 819 )
      عمر بن الخطاب قال : سمعت هشام بن حكيم يقرأ سورة الفرقان على غير ما أقرأها عليه وكان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أقرأنيها فكدت أن أعجل عليه ثم أمهلته حتى انصرف ثم لببته بردائه فجئت به إلى رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فقلت : يا رسول الله إني سمعت هذا يقرأ سورة الفرقان على غير ما أقرأتنيها فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : اقرأ فقرأ القراءة التي سمعته يقرأ . فقال : هكذا أنزلت . ثم قال لي اقرأ فقرأت فقال هكذا أنزلت . إنّ هذا القرآن أنزل على سبعة أحرف فاقرءوا ما تيسّر منه . رواه البخاري ( 2287 ) ومسلم ( 818 )
      Get a life man. Learn the religion before making stupid comments.

    • @mahmoud2202
      @mahmoud2202 Před 2 lety +1

      @@drvally9493 THIS A CLEAR LIE ATTRIBUTED TO THE PROPHET a.s & U FOOL BELIEVE IN IT!
      * WOE TO BLOODY U FASIQ CONTRADICTING ALLAH J.J :-
      سُوۡرَةُ مَریَم
      فَإِنَّمَا يَسَّرۡنَـٰهُ بِلِسَانِكَ لِتُبَشِّرَ بِهِ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ وَتُنذِرَ بِهِۦ قَوۡمً۬ا لُّدًّ۬ا (٩٧)
      -----
      سُوۡرَةُ الدّخان
      فَإِنَّمَا يَسَّرۡنَـٰهُ بِلِسَانِكَ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَتَذَڪَّرُونَ (٥٨)
      ALLAH J.J SAYS ONE , WHILE U BELIEVE IN SEVEN!
      سُوۡرَةُ النِّسَاء
      وَمَنۡ أَصۡدَقُ مِنَ ٱللَّهِ حَدِيثً۬ا (٨٧) ۞
      HELL TO BLOODY U IN SHAA ALLAH J.J!
      * YOUR PROPHET a.s WAS NOT IN POSITION TO DEMAND WHAT QUOTED IN YOUR LIE, CALLED HADEETH!
      * U FOOL DON'T BELIEVE IN ALLAH 'S QURAAN!
      * U BELIEVE IN LIES IN BUKHRI!

    • @mahmoud2202
      @mahmoud2202 Před 2 lety +1

      @@drvally9493 U R NOT A Dr, U R A FOOL FASIQ & MUSHRIK!

    • @mahmoud2202
      @mahmoud2202 Před 2 lety

      @@drvally9493U FOOL SEE WHAT ALLAH J.J SAYS TO IGNORANT ARROGANTS LIKE U:-
      سُوۡرَةُ الجَاثیَة
      وَيۡلٌ۬ لِّكُلِّ أَفَّاكٍ أَثِيمٍ۬ (٧) يَسۡمَعُ ءَايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ تُتۡلَىٰ عَلَيۡهِ ثُمَّ يُصِرُّ مُسۡتَكۡبِرً۬ا كَأَن لَّمۡ يَسۡمَعۡهَا‌ۖ فَبَشِّرۡهُ بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ۬ (٨)
      NOT BELIEVING IN WHAT ALLAH J.J SAYS IN HIS QURAAN!

  • @user-vk1tm1xl8b
    @user-vk1tm1xl8b Před 2 lety

    لَا حَوْلَ وَلَا قُوَّةَ إِلَّا بِٱللَّٰ

  • @parvizdawah2641
    @parvizdawah2641 Před rokem

    2nd one is float for sure because there are couple hadithes in al bukhari volume 7 if im not mistaken. one young sahaba said to Uthman ibn Affan r.a.a o uncle we know those verses abrogated why dont you just miss them. and response of Uthman ibn Affan r.a.a was o my nephew i’ll never take any verses out even if they are abrogated because there are still kalam of Allah swt. and Allah swt knows best

  •  Před rokem

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
    بارك الله فيك يا أخي الكريم
    I have never read any evidence that proves that the mushaf or Abi Bakr رضي الله عنه contained the seven Ahruf. Do you have any evidence on that?

  • @7senegalese
    @7senegalese Před 3 lety +1

    ماشاء الله

  • @palashkolkata
    @palashkolkata Před rokem

    Is that means there are no abrogated verse in the current Quran?

  • @suleimanomipidan8012
    @suleimanomipidan8012 Před 4 lety +2

    @ Al-Madrasatu Al-Umariyyah, Jazakumullah khaiyran for your lending contribution. The following questions arose from this video:
    1. That if differences arose in the written format of the Quran as mentioned, then it should be written in Quraish. If writing in Quraish takes precedence, then obviously it would be pronounced in Quraishi dialect and no other. What is your response to this?
    2. If the 5 Mashaf sent out contained the 7-ahruf in scattered fashion, how this contrast with the idea that the written format was in accordance with the Qureishi dialect? What did Uthman commanded to be burnt, note books of some of the sahabas? What exactly was Ibn Mas’uud (May Allah be pleased with him) objecting to?

    • @ivarvoorel3590
      @ivarvoorel3590 Před 4 lety +7

      maybe we should also look from other place, one of my friends is actually person who memorized with all 7 ahruuf/qiraat.
      and i asked him about this particular series, he told that Uthman sent 7 Qurans and with all Ahruf/Qiraat.
      indeed Almighty and Powerful Who Never fail His Promises told us that He will Preserve the Quran, and as of hadith states Quran = 7 ahruuf.
      + my friend also told, that there is a chain of "narrators" with his Quran.
      and also that there has never been any doubts about 7 ahruf and all that, it has been recently risen by secular university and all that,
      basically this is just to make us doubt and the make us fight and leave the Truth

    • @suleimanomipidan8012
      @suleimanomipidan8012 Před 4 lety +2

      The evil mind people shall not succeed with their intrigues but we also must be well informed about our din. I am familiar with qirah hafsin, warsh, qa'loon and duri and I have 3 younger brothers who are huffaz and the eldest studying sharia in the University in the Maghreb. They are all familiar with the Ahruf/Qiraat. The Quran is preserved with all the Ahruf and so are the Qiraat. All other Qiraat save hafsin are subordinate readings. But we must get our terminologies right if and when we entertain secular academic inquiries that tries to create doubts. Thank you so much for your lending contributions!

    • @makkahcadey
      @makkahcadey Před 4 lety +1

      The shiekh says that Uthman(RA) said to them "if you differ" to take it back to the dialect of the Quresh.

    • @suleimanomipidan8012
      @suleimanomipidan8012 Před 4 lety

      If they differ in reading or writing?

    • @suleimanomipidan8012
      @suleimanomipidan8012 Před 4 lety +1

      Afwan, and I am not trying to gaslight the Sheikh’s presentation, but the Hadith that is being mentioned, was narrated by Anas ibn Malik clearly contained these punctuated words: “اذا اختلفتم انتم وزيد بن ثابت في عربية من عربية القران...” (fathul Bari, Vol 9), meaning ‘in case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit in “arabiyati min arabiyyati-l-Qur’an”. The Hadith revealed that Zaid ibn Thabit was tasked along with two other companions (Allah be pleased with them all) to make copies the Quran from the manuscripts entrusted to Hafsah (Allah be pleased with her) that will become certified true copies of the original, intended to be sent out to every Muslim province for the obvious purpose of having a unified reading. So “if you differ” according to the context, does not seem to refer to the way the Quran should be written bc it was copies of the original but the way it should be recited. To lend further support to this understanding, Fathul Bari mentioned a narration containing a letter once addressed by Umar to Ibn Mas’uud (Allah be please with them both) instructing him thus: “ان القران نزل بلسان قريش، فاقرىء الناس بلغة قريش لا بلغة هذيل" meaning ‘verily the Quran was reveled in the dialect of Quraish, so do recite to the people in the dialect of the Quraish and not the dialect of hadheel.

  • @Zack_berret
    @Zack_berret Před měsícem

    i wish you showed the sources

  • @authenticseerah
    @authenticseerah Před 3 lety +7

    15:00 There is nothing authentic or even weak to say that Uthman (رضي الله عنه) burned the notes/copies having the other Ahruf.

    • @markward3981
      @markward3981 Před 3 lety +6

      السلام عليكم
      This is a subtle but very important point as some scholars seeking to the explain the difficult concept of Ahruf and Qiraat to layman have made statements suggesting the Uthaman (Radi Allahu Anhu )
      got rid of Quran . That made no sense to me when I heard some day it. By saying anyone got rid of Ahruf you are saying they got rid of or abandoned Quran. That is incorrect and creates a theological issues. May Allah protect us.

    • @iniestaxavi3826
      @iniestaxavi3826 Před 4 měsíci

      @@markward3981 It doesn't create theological issues because they were optional anyway. As long as one harf is preserved, then we have the Qur'an as revealed by God.

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    This was difficult to follow.

  • @farhanhiola
    @farhanhiola Před rokem

    Why are there different opinions about this and not just one?

  • @Revolt_west
    @Revolt_west Před 2 měsíci

    🤲🏼🦁🇵🇸

  • @presleymaddox
    @presleymaddox Před 3 lety +2

    Question.
    If all 7 ahruf existed in usmans (ra) mushaf then what was usman (ra) standardizing? I thought he was picking 1 ahruf, way of recitation, bc people were arguing over whose recitation was better and then sent that recitation out to the masses?
    I think the answer is usman ( ra) heard of people adding personal notes or wrong additions to their personal quran so then he decided to copy abu bakrs ( ra) mushaf and send that to the public and told everyone to get rid of theirs and use what he sent out. Please let me know if my answer to my question is correct?

    • @MarvelousSquad
      @MarvelousSquad Před 2 lety +2

      Exactly, it doesn’t make sense. If Uthman standardized the Quran to fit only 1 Ahruf, where did the textual differences of Warsh and Hafs come from? How could these 2 different texts have come from the single standardization by Uthman? Unless of course people began adding slightly different variations of actual text to the Uthman standard, thus creating different versions like Warsh. It was clearly changed, i don’t see any way around it. Muslims combat this by saying Uthman didn’t get rid of the other 6 Ahruf, but this doesn’t make sense. If Uthman didn’t get rid of the other 6 ahruf when he standardized it, then what was the point of standardizing it??? It’s clear that Uthmans goal was to get rid of the other 6 Ahrufs and make the Quran a single uniform text. to me this is clear indication that the Quran hasn’t been preserved.

    • @presleymaddox
      @presleymaddox Před 2 lety +4

      I disagree only because all the qiraats that exist today such as hafs and warsh can all be read from the Uthmani text. So the term “changed” is null and void not only in the word being used but especially in the translation and meaning. They all translate to effectively the same all encompassing meaning. For example one reading has malik which is king and the other has maaaaalik which is master. It’s two words that encompasss a wide array of meaning but still show an entity that has full authority over the day of judgement. What’s more remarkable is all of the qiraat that have readings like this complement each other. So how could one reading complement another and not be from the same source?

    • @presleymaddox
      @presleymaddox Před 2 lety +4

      Secondly you are failing to realize that the primary method of the qurans preservation is through mass memory and not through written text. Mass memory is the primary preservation method and this can be tested today so when you take someone from Africa and ask them to recite a specific verse from memory and then compare it with someone from England with the same verse, you will see they match in meaning. Too many nuances here to go with the “changed” theory which wouldn’t really be a change anyways

    • @MarvelousSquad
      @MarvelousSquad Před 2 lety +2

      @@presleymaddox I don’t think you understand. go look at the differences of Hafs and Warsh, the differences are in the text and not only the recitation, HOW could both of these different texts come from a single uniform Uthman standard?
      Imagine i write a book and i give you a SINGLE copy of it, and then in 20 years i come back to see that somehow this single book has now become 2 books with small differences and variations in spelling, verbs, nouns, etc. how could these 2 different books have come from the SINGLE book i gave you? even if the differences are small they’re still not identical, which is weird because they SHOULD be. the only possible explanation is that at some point AFTER i gave you the book, changes came whether they were intentional or accidental, it doesn’t matter, the point is the 2 copies are not entirely identical. do you not understand what i’m saying?

    • @presleymaddox
      @presleymaddox Před 2 lety +1

      “HOW could both of these different texts come from a single uniform Uthman standard?”
      Please review the uthmani text and you will see that they both are exactly from there. I think you need a better grasp on the different ahruf. Without diacritical marks they absolutely do trace back to the Uthmani text.
      Secondly when you say “change” that term needs to be clearly defined. Because the Quran was originally revealed in 7 ahruf. So Uthman standardized it however if two specific recitations emanate from the Uthmani text but they also trace back to the original 7 ahruf then is that really a change? I don’t think so. Lastly what you call variations are also complementations.

  • @judochopdat5369
    @judochopdat5369 Před 6 měsíci

    Bottom line: The Quran has been perfectly preserved.
    Evidence: It contains not a single contradiction.

  • @olgaz2498
    @olgaz2498 Před 2 lety +4

    i cant do this anymore

  • @quecobpt
    @quecobpt Před 3 lety +1

    how did the 5 books of uthman become 10 qiraat?

    • @gajiburrahman7378
      @gajiburrahman7378 Před 3 lety +3

      The text of the Quran can be recited in multiple ways, so it is very easy to get 10 qiraat from only 5 Mushafs.
      For example, if you have 1 Mushaf which can be recited in two ways, and you have a 2nd Mushaf which can be recited in 3 ways, and a 3rd Mushaf which can be recited 2 ways, and a 4th Mushaf which can be recited in 2 ways, and a 5th Mushaf which can be recited in 1 way. Then that would be 5 Mushafs which can be recited in 10 ways(qiraat). This is an example of how you can get 10 qiraat from 5 Mushafs.

    • @zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651
      @zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 Před 3 lety

      @@gajiburrahman7378 masya Allaah jazakAllaah khoir. tabarakAllaah

    • @MarvelousSquad
      @MarvelousSquad Před 2 lety +2

      @@gajiburrahman7378 but you’re implying that the ONLY differences are in ways you can recite a single uniform text, so where did the TEXTUAL differences of Warsh come from? How did different forms of writing the Quran survive Uthmans codification?

    • @lilteccasgrandad4820
      @lilteccasgrandad4820 Před 11 měsíci

      ⁠@@MarvelousSquadthe textual differences doesn’t make a difference in meaning but rather agree with each other as you can see this in multiple languages like in English such as color and colour, Centre and center and etc. The prophet (SAW) recited in the 7 qirat during his lifetime as seen in Sahih Al Bukhari 3047 and Sahih Muslim 819.

    • @Turkishmustacheman
      @Turkishmustacheman Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@MarvelousSquadthe different type of writings are in the different mushafs.....

  • @invisible8267
    @invisible8267 Před 4 lety +1

    To believe abrogation of the Quran is, in itself a believe of the incompleteness of the Quran.

    • @SoldierOfTheDeen
      @SoldierOfTheDeen Před 3 lety +29

      "We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?" Quran 2: 106

  • @haticeergun7618
    @haticeergun7618 Před 2 lety

    The hadith about 7 ahruf and 10 qiraat is a fabrication of bani Israel..Shame on any Muslim who thinks that a prophet could know bettter than Allah SWT and Allah SWT had to be corrected 7 times then Allah SWT will punish you severely for not recognizing your Creator Who is All Knower yet His creation is teaching Him what to reveal..!??
    SERIOUSLY..!!!????
    Ittaqullah and delete that video of lies..!!!