Why tungsten lighting is still a very viable choice.
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Meet The Gaffer #334. Shane Louis and Alan Steinheimer light a straight forward presentational video for Gorilla Creative at Goalline Studios for client Sojern.
Find Shane on instagram: @shanelouislights
Find Alan here: www.steinheimer.com
Find Gorilla Creative: www.gorillacreative.com and @therealgorillacreative
And Goalline Studios here: www.goalline.com - Věda a technologie
Good way to keep the studio warm in winter :)
One of the great things about old carbon arcs on exteriors was the grid in the winter. Build yourself a little 6mil visqueen shed around it and the light stand and you stayed nice and toasty.
End result is absolutely beautiful. The tried and true fixtures that will out-live us all. Tungsten til I die!!!
The warmth of a Big Eye Tenner filling a 12X natural silk corner to corner is stunning. I remember Joe Pytka banging a low 10K on a turtle through a sheet of foam. Not bounced off of foam core but through a sheet of expanded foam. Very smudggie but not enough foot candles. By the time you cranked the spot to it the foam was melting. Predictable, but he wasn't one to be told something wasn't going to work out. If he ever asked a crew guy to a game of catch you knew Joe was likely mad at him and was going to burn him up with the baseball or football. Directed fantastic spots though. Give the man his due.
@user-cq5oe9me2z Makes for legendary stories.
I just gaffed a super indie short where we'd been using rented tungsten fixtures for the previous 2 shoot days - on the last day without rentals, one of my dusty tungsten fresnels ended up being our key. Glad I haven't gotten rid of my tungsten heads just yet!
We need to see more of crafty on your sets, looks like you had great chip selection that day!
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This production company has a pretty sick crafty setup. Only thing it lacks is a personal barista.
@@shanelouislights A well-fed crew is a happy crew. And a happy crew makes better videos.
Keeping all my Tungsten ,love it
Great BTS stuff!
Mom I made it! I’m in a meet the gaffer video :OO
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great video! just one question, where exactly in the power distribution does it change to allow the t12's to run at 220v? is it simply changing the cable? or is it a different outlet somewhere? thanks!
I've been on many indie and union shoots. It wasn't until I worked with a veteran gaffer he called for a snoot on a baby. I had never used that accessory in my entire life! haha
How sad. Short life to this point I'm guessing. Under 30? You may have missed the best part. There is a lot of great new tech out there, but the quality of set life and the production experience has degraded. Good thing is, you won't know what you missed. Take care.
Scrims! I bet the kids don't even know what those are.
Still love tungsten lighting!
I would be interested in knowing what T stop you were shooting this with that much power. A T8?
I actually think there is a very good case to be made for still using tungsten on product shoots in studios, especially in the winter when the extra temperature isn't as big a deal. With current cameras and higher base ISO's, the power consumption isn't actually an issue. Even in this case, if power was actually an issue then you wouldn't have been using fresnels on those bounces. Also, is there any COB that can actually compete with a T12 right now, both for intensity and lighting control?
While I know it is unlikely, if somebody could just design a 120V AC lamp that was even just twice as efficient as tungsten, I feel like some gaffers might be more than happy to go back to gels and gloves again.
I believe I was lighting this to a 5.6.
Big tungsten, and big HMI's for that matter will always have a place in the arsenal. It's the small units that are really just so much faster and easier to use in LED world.
The coconut water on the distrobox had me sweating.
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YESSSS!!
Love to see that type of back-saving teamwork on mounting the Fisher on the bogie wheels, also bogey or bogy. We adapted their use from the railroad industry, particularly as to their use for curves in track. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogie. A single assembly of 4 freight car wheels, axles, brakes and suspension weighs around 8,000 lbs. Archimedes would tell you for a boxcar you're gonna need longer lift bars than those which JL provides. Yeah, I definitely have too much time on my hands.
i understand the silverbox is probably a 600 amp distro box?, but what is the blue dimmer box? how does it automatically create 220V output? Confused. I guess what I'm asking is exactly how do you "run these t12's 220v" You're using a 120v system right?
The silver box is a 1200A box. it takes 3-phase camlock in and outputs 6 100A 120V and 3 100A 220V. The 220V is just "created" by having 2 hot legs. In order to run the T12 at 220V, you need to use a 220V Globe and a 220V dimmer.
@shanelouislights Not really. You can use a 110V globe and it will have a whole lot more output, just not for very long. 🤣
ahh okay I get it now. Im still learning so for give the question if its dumb, but since ARRI T12 lights are designed for true 220V three-phase power, not the "two-hot-leg" 220V does that create any hazard for mismatch voltage? @@shanelouislights
The light only receives 2 hot legs from the box. With 3 phase, you have 3 hot legs available (each at 120V) but only use them in pairs to get 220V. Hopefully that makes sense. Alan did a video here on the channel a while ago talking about distro. Might be helpful to check that out to get a better understanding of set power distro systems we commonly use.
Any comments on the way tungsten looks compared to LED, or would you guys say that it produces the same light quality as LED?
Better light quality and denser light
@@ColinZiemer1 Thank you! do you have any comparison to halogen lights? I used to use them before LED, and always loved the light quality, but they were a pain to work with because of the heat, no dimming capabilties and they would exolode if you moved them around while running or in the middle of a shoot.
@@Project_2501skip halogen and get some tungsten. Tungsten is the king of color rendition
the bts has a nice warm skin that is unique to tungsten, the final graded spot seems to lose this.
Yes, the BTS was just an iPhone set to auto and not really graded. But the guys added some Hollyland mics🙂
@@meetthegaffer but the colour is better than the spot!
The final spot was graded to a neutral white point and doesn’t have an artistic grade applied. The intention was for it to feel very natural and realistic. The skin tones are actually quite warm and natural, but in comparison to the BTS footage (which is very warm), it feels cool in comparison. If you watch it out of context of this video, I suspect you wouldn’t think anything of it.
Mic in at 00:20. Restart. Same slate. No marker. Get the grip off the boom. Work with me people. 😀
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Hahaha. Just today I was asked to change my whole HMI list for tungsten so it’d be cheaper…
If you want the output but don’t need quick transitions in tunable white or color, and you have the power, the cost savings are significant.
@@meetthegaffer ..if you are not paying for the consumed joules
The new in thing of editing with a bunch of needless edits sure is annoying. It can’t go the way of a shaky camera soon enough.