Watch Your Opponents Suffer With This EVIL Venomoth Deck! Spread Damage w/Froslass PTCGL
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In today’s Pokemon TCG Live video i play a very evil deck, Venomoth Froslass! Item lock & spread is a pretty good combo!
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Pokémon: 8
1 Bloodmoon Ursaluna ex TEF 141
3 Dunsparce TEF 128
3 Dudunsparce TEF 129
4 Venonat MEW 48
4 Snorunt SIT 41
1 Dunsparce PAL 156
3 Froslass TWM 53
4 Venomoth MEW 49
Trainer: 16
1 Boss's Orders PAL 172
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
1 Rescue Board TEF 159
3 Bug Catching Set TWM 143
1 Survival Brace TWM 164
1 Enhanced Hammer TEF 148
2 Super Rod PAL 188
2 Artazon PAL 171
1 Cynthia's Ambition BRS 138
4 Arven SVI 167
1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177
3 Iono PAL 185
1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178
3 Counter Catcher PAR 160
2 Arezu LOR 153
1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
Energy: 1
6 Basic {G} Energy GRI 167
Total Cards: 60 - Hry
I think the festival lead guy blew it. His dipplin wasn't confused. Festival stops special conditions. By switching he killed that one for nothing.
I was just going ti say this
Lowkey i forgot about that too
Singel prize item lock is just kinda broken 😂
It really isn't. It's, unfortunately, absolutely mid because of the fact it's 90HP
You have an unexpected fan. I am doing my morning routine of fish tank maintenance and I had my phone on my desk next to my bettas tank and he was very excitedly watching the screen and trying to chase your curator and the cards moving around on the screen 😂
Sheeeesh
What type of betta?
The immense disrespect LDF has for Jamming Tower 😂
"Gonna make your opponents cry and suffer" after this happening to me a lot GIMME THAT DECK IT'S TIME FOR PAYBACK 😈
I’ve been rocking a Froslass/Munkidori/Hisuian Arcanine deck that is a single-prize machine, I’m pretty pleased with how well it works and it has great matchups with fighting weaknesses and a lot of abilities running around
Froslass has enabled a lot of evil strategies
Awesome man!
I think cutting the urs and replacing it with a Roseannes backup you can get multiple uses out of the brace and have stadium bump refreshes
nice deck im playing with with 2 munkidori and bibarrel , so i can move dmg around but dudunspace its better i think, i will try it out
Yoooo lucks so fun!
At 43:00 the Festival deck could probably just have searched for a basic and put it on the bench for the 2x 90 damage. Same in their next turn.
Just ran into this on ladder about 6 hours ago. I blame you.
Long time since this video came out, but I just want to record here that I've been playing this deck for 11 days (with some adjustments to suit my playing style), and I have not lost a game yet. I'm probably jinxing myself by saying this, but it's true.
Played this deck with munkidori. Prety good also
34:12 I'm playing Bibarel with Froslass on the Tsareena ex deck. Just using Emergency Jelly to get it to survive longer.
Still waiting for that video 😊
I have a similar deck I was just thinking that dunsparce might be the way to go
I run the same with a turo
I love spread damage decks 🎉
i swapped the brace for hyper aroma. i feel its just better in this deck
I was interested. Tried it out. First game was Raging Bolt and second game was Apple Festival. 2 decks that hard counter it with either Ancient Booster or the stadium 😂
Maybe a couple Vacuums can help?
@@LocalMapleHow does getting rid of a stadium/tool help EITHER of those matchups?
Raging Bolt, practically, plays with what's on the board. It doesn't need anything fancy.
Dipplin has Pigeot that's on a stage 1 that's gonna allow you to chain 4 back to back stadiums. Lost zoning, or even just bumping it naturally, doesn't prevent it from being there?
@@aaronwishard7093Raging Bolt plays Ancient Booster. That card prevents status conditions. The original comment explicitly named that card. Can you see why Vacuum helps with that matchup?
If Bolt doesn’t play Stadiums, Jamming Tower would be the more reliable card. But Vacuum can be searched by Arven.
Festival plays Festival, and usually doesn’t play Cyllene or Roseanne. 2 Artazon into 2 Vacuum get rid of them all. Also, by taking up 1 Thwakey to search out the Stadium, they lose momentum searching for other cards they want to secure the victory. Especially when as shown in the video you can Froslass and Counter Catcher to put the Thwakeys on a timer, meaning every search matters.
@@LocalMapleRaging Bolt *DOESN'T* play Booster. Just because you and the other comment *CLAIM* that they do doesn't magically make that appear. In any deck list that exists on LimitlessTCG, aka anyone that's gotten a top placement in a tournament. It's shown up in 0% of the lists. So you're absolutely right. If someone decided to clog up their deck, instead of playing it straight, then it COULD be an issue, except again you're chasing ghosts at that point.
"Jamming Tower is more reliable if they don't play stadiums, but Arven searches out vacuum" well surprise surprise, except not really. Raging Bolt plays Jamming Tower themselves! At least more often than they play Ancient Booster Capsule. Just 6% of lists have it as a 1 of. As opposed Pokestop that's in 50% of lists, as a 3 of.
And then you talk about the exact math I just spoke about in my initial comment. They play 4 Festivals. You're saying "well just bump the stadium 4 times", I'm again saying that doesn't matter when their game plan is literally take 6 KOs on your less than 100 HP stuff, over the course of 3 turns. It's why Survival Brace was in the deck. So yes, every search matters, but I play Dipplin. The counter to Froslass is literally just play faster than the damage is being put down. It's not impossible.
@@aaronwishard7093So when I’m playing on the ladder (where LDF gets his videos, and his viewers replicate his decks), and over 3/4 of Raging Bolt decks I play against use Ancient Booster and 1-2 Bravery Charm… Who’s the liar?
As for your Thwakey claim.
Thanks for agreeing with my points without realizing it. As LDF’s deck currently stands, he has 2 Festival bumps. And as shown in his video: item lock prevents Buddy Buddy Poffin, Nest Ball, Bug Catching Set… All of which alongside Froslass forced Dipplin to play at a slower speed. We are both right that whoever plays faster wins; stadium bumps are an extra trick Item Lock Froslass can use to slow down Thwakey.
And I don’t have enough time or patience to also prove you said nothing that disproved all the reasons behind my stance which you didn’t realize, so I’ll just give one. The point of having 4 bumps isn’t just to take out 4 Stadiums. It’s also for the fringe cases where they prize a Stadium, or where you prize one; either way, you want more consistency to remove the Festivals they can play. As stated above, the more Thwakeys you can waste on cards like Festival (and Applin instead of Buddy Buddy Poffin), the better VenoLass’s odds of winning become.
you need to try ariados with scizor or mimikyu/fluttermane
I think swapping Ursaluna for a Roseanne's to get more milage out of Survival Brace might be a good tech if Brace is really what you wanna use. Not saying it's bad just sayin if it's gonna be our ACE SPEC we need to make sure it deserves that slot. Since we're running 4x Arven and not a Arven/Irida split (As a lot of Froslass decks do) it works to our advantage as a way to get Brace back more consistently.
At that point you might even be able to swap a Super Rod for a Lana's Aid since getting the cards you Rod back is gonna be tough because we're not running Ultras or Hyper Aroma. Although at that point the deck would be VERY supporter heavy. More than what I'd call comfortable. Buuuuut maybe you could argue that since we're an item lock deck stalling an extra turn to make a play off of a supporter isn't as tall an order as usual. Cynthia, an Arezu, or maybe even the Boss would be the first things I'd look to swap around.
Hyper aroma would be good in this too
That's how I play it. It works really nice.
Yep I considered that also
Congratulations. On 62K.
Thanks!
Feel like a switch would be good to just avoid the energy use for retreat
No way, I was just building this and tinkering around with it. I can never get a Salvatore turn-1 lock though 😔
I'm surprised to see zero Salvatore or Munkidori!
Have you tried drawing better hands? Hope this helps 👍
😂
I'm not sure the extra 30 damage you can put on each turn is worth losing the consistency you get from having 2 bench spaces open for Dudunsparce.
While I agree the deck desperately needs a draw engine that doesn't get pinged by Frosslass, your damage output is very low. So 1-2 Munidori moving 3 damage each per turn is actually really helpful to accelerating your prizes.
@@GreenMonkeySam So I've played half a dozen games with the list and I really don't think it's necessary to have the Monkey. Went 5-1 and the only loss was due to bricking completely whilst my opponent drew the stones. Once you get the Venomoths rolling opponents generally don't know how to handle it.
Bro I’ve been playing this on ladder and it COOKS. Haven’t lost a match yet!
You need to try froslass with tsareena ex and panic mask
Do you do the decklist by hand to post in the description? Because they are usually incorrect. Like you have Arven as SVI 167 but that's actually Beach Court, Arven is SVI 166. The import function uses this code when importing and not the name of the card. Other errors in this decklist is it's importing Awakening Drums and Full Metal Lab instead of Enhanced Hammer and Bloodmoon Ursaluna. This might confuse new players trying to use your decklist.
happened to me as well. this is the correct list for import:
Pokémon: 8
3 Dudunsparce TEF 129
4 Venonat MEW 48
4 Snorunt SIT 41
1 Dunsparce PAL 156
3 Froslass TWM 53
4 Venomoth MEW 49
3 Dunsparce TEF 128 PH
1 Bloodmoon Ursaluna ex TWM 141
Trainer: 16
4 Arven SVI 166
1 Boss's Orders PAL 172
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
1 Rescue Board TEF 159
3 Bug Catching Set TWM 143
1 Survival Brace TWM 164
1 Enhanced Hammer TWM 148
2 Super Rod PAL 188
2 Artazon PAL 171
1 Cynthia's Ambition BRS 138
1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177
3 Iono PAL 185
1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178
3 Counter Catcher PAR 160
2 Arezu LOR 153
1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
Energy: 1
6 Basic {G} Energy SVE 1
Total Cards: 60
Venomoth is just a menace. I almost beat greninja/froslass with this and aroma.
Which is the better item lock deck? Venomoth or Banette?
Depends on what you need/want.
Venomoth provides a layer of disruption beyond item lock in the form of confusion. But as LDF kinda pointed out in the 2nd game. Even with weakness, flip enough heads and that doesn't actually matter.
Banette has a better 2nd attack. Speed Wing isn't a terrible attack, especially if you hit for weakness. That's easily 200 damage under those circumstances and a decent closing move.
Banette also gives up 2 prizes. However it can also survive longer than Venomoth.
Depends, banette has more results but Venomoth is better into stuff like drago, Zard & raging bolt
hey, I'm in this one! gosh your deck was annoying. and i whiffed my thwackeys. GG!
GGs!
Would you go first ? or second to use tm evo ?
1st to item lock turn 2
Correct list for importing to live:
Pokémon: 8
3 Dudunsparce TEF 129
4 Venonat MEW 48
4 Snorunt SIT 41
1 Dunsparce PAL 156
3 Froslass TWM 53
4 Venomoth MEW 49
3 Dunsparce TEF 128 PH
1 Bloodmoon Ursaluna ex TWM 141
Trainer: 16
4 Arven SVI 166
1 Boss's Orders PAL 172
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
1 Rescue Board TEF 159
3 Bug Catching Set TWM 143
1 Survival Brace TWM 164
1 Enhanced Hammer TWM 148
2 Super Rod PAL 188
2 Artazon PAL 171
1 Cynthia's Ambition BRS 138
1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177
3 Iono PAL 185
1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178
3 Counter Catcher PAR 160
2 Arezu LOR 153
1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
Energy: 1
6 Basic {G} Energy SVE 1
Total Cards: 60
A Vacuum, and Trimmer sounds viable in this deck interesting
Trimmer might be solid
Hi. I was just wondering how you managed to keep some old cards like secret rare ultra ball and secret rare candies, I transferred my account recently but I didnt keep any cards like this, they are all gone. Any ideas?
Let’s that deck meet timbur deck finish them off
First so you can item lock turn 2
No Bibarel?! WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO LDF 😱😱😱
Dont worry hell return tmmrw
@@LittleDarkFury YESSIRRR
Dipplin wasn't actually confused though, because of Festival Grounds stadium, right?
Ye no cap i forgot that festival grounds has that effect 💀
@@LittleDarkFury I think your opponent did too, when they used Kieran to switch haha.
I played against this using charizard and got locked up and cried…
Happy america day everybody!! On a more related note I absolutely hate item lock. Thanks for showing people an annoying way to do it.
This just doesn’t have a chance against Gardevoir ex deck, which everyone is playing.
do you stream anymore?
Too busy rn
please for the love of all that is good in pokemon. Please, when you make these videos also put out what counters the deck because as soon as you drop a vid everyone just hypebeast into playing it.
Not much can be done about that lol im not trying to control the entire ladder
Idk why but copying the deck list from the description is putting an awakening drum in the list
early again