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What’s going on with all these brands we don’t recognize showing up when we’re shopping for graphic’s cards online? The prices seem too good to be true! Are these GPUs a bargain, a scam, or something in between?
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Hi linus, ur content is good
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I picked up a 51risc 3070. So far so good. But i will see how it goes
@@austinc-s73448gb gpu bro 💀
It's kind of awful that reasonably priced GPUs are now something to be suspicious of.
Reasonable prices with unknown name brands...
Gpus are reasonable. You dont need a 4090 to game. Plenty of $200 or less gpus that can play anything just fine.
@@emeraldages yes but the entire point of a better GPU is that it can look good and be smooth
They are luxury's you don't need em to live that's why they're so expensive
@@samuelmatheson9655 If you only want to play games, sure. But there's a good chunk of the industry now relying on these and it'd be in everyone's best interest if they were priced reasonably.
Still better names than the HDMI switcher my mum bought, a Techole... 🤦♂
What's next? Tech Sack?
😅
@@Illumina_Blade"I aim D", "NVidiot", so many opportunities for jokes 😅🤣🤣🖖
oh my, we have 2 of those exact techole hdmi switchers! was your's made of metal, and weirdly high quality?
I have the same Techole, and it works great 😎
A price for performance graph would have been interesting to see.. Would've been great to see those compared to other refurbished cards.
That is impossible to do cause the card WILL perform, the real question is for how long? That would take months to determine and a lot of wasted money...
you can see in the graphs that they all perform identical (except for the MLLSE). So a price to performance graph would just be identical to the price graph.
@@brentlidstone1982 It shouldn't be identical in any way since almost all of these cards were priced differently. So you can use 11:20 to make your own price to performance calc
@@AdamLop314If there are 5 RTX 4060's and only 1 of them is 40% cheaper than the rest, isn't it obvious enough that you should choose that one? Why is a price/perf necessary? Only looking at price/perf is very shortsighted and naive. The real question is how long these cards last compared to the established brands and how their support is.
weeeelll....Linus has had issues recently with test results
please do more of this. the random crap online, aliexpress, ebay, odd ball hardware... these are great videos! i love seeing this stuff. also i would love to see some thrift shopping - just going WAY out of your way to find cheap hardware - such as maybe multiple broken laptops or parts to combine into a working one.
In my country alot of people buy gpus off aliexpress that comes from china and its really cheap and actually works instead of getting fried in a month.
@@babaloons4887 yeah I would love to see more content like that. I would love to see just complete batshit stuff purchased and then made to work. Like buying a completely fraudulent GPU and then flashing the actual correct firmware to it and maybe doing some overclock.
Like back in the day, the x800 vivo edition, you could take that and add a trace with either a solder pan or a number two pencil, then flash better firmer on it and replace the heat sink. You would turn $90 video card into a $500 x850 XTPE. I did that a lot back then and I'd love to see more of that
Agreed. The 2TB Ram or RTX 4090 stuff is entertaining but videos like these are relatable and helpful in day to day stuff for us average folk.
" also i would love to see some thrift shopping - just going WAY out of your way to find cheap hardware - such as maybe multiple broken laptops or parts to combine into a working one."
So, in other words, "bring back scrapyard wars"?
Interesting that they picked a Yeston, they seem to be pretty reputable (in large part due to their reach and exposure from waifu cards)
Oh i totally forgot that they make the waifu gpus
It's how I learned about them and learned they were legit. I'm actually thinking about the Yeston Sakura 7900 XTX whenever my 1080Ti kicks the bucket.
was about to say, something about that name was familiar but I couldn't quite point out what...until they showed the anime stickers and the website then I instantly knew again. From what I know they're pretty legit yeah.
GamersNexus has covered Yeston cards a decent bit.
@@Claymoresmashyou may regret the decision :( I have personal experience with 6800xt yestons and the temps absolutely SUCK! Be sure to find some reviews on the xtx model before you buy it
Yeston is actually a legit brand overseas, mostly known for making themed graphics cards and themed cases. Gamer's Nexus has actually reviewed a couple of their cards in the past.
You have the answer I needed because I'll be replacing my 1080ti at some point and the yeston cards have allot of style but I was curious about longevity seems they last long enough to sell more
It's from Shenzhen, China
@@manalone6973 I know China has low QC but sometimes they can have great products at great prices. I have a 3 year old 150cc gas driven scooter that was made in Shenzhen. New the sticker price was $969.00 US dollars, and an added 200 for the bike to be shipped to my door. That's 1/3 of the cheapest 150cc scooter you can find which is about 3500 and that's the extreme low end - normal prices for 150cc scooters are over 4 thousand. I have not had one problem with the motorcycle and absolutely love it.
@@DivergentDroideverything is made in china lol
@@jayi31 Not for much longer, apparently! :D
Steve Burke (of GamersNexus) has reviewed a few Yeston cards. They do tend to be pricey but they also tend to be of good quality, and feature more bespoke designs than the more well-known brands. That being the case, I'm glad to see them appearing on North American shores.
I love their Anime inspired designs. So out there in design. Refreshing
@@dwong98Oh, gross, anime. Get it away!
ive always been a quite fan of yeston, I love the work they do and usually jump on they're products when they go on sale. Ive gotten a 3080 and a 5700xt from them before and they were very high quality built cards
Sus
Yeston produces some of the nicest looking cards if you are into the Anime aesthetic. This brand is Chinese, but I can definitely say that this is not a sketchy brand
@@cloud6871 Steve Burke from Gamers Nexus have shown few Yeston cards
interestingly, Yeston is actually a real legitimate aftermarket card maker for Nvidia & AMD. they just mostly focus on eastern markets with cutesy cooler designs and such. so it wasn't really a surprise that they did fine to me!
Yeah, GamersNexus covered their products a bunch of times.
seems like overtime with the exposure by channels like GamersNexus that they hope to bring their weeb cards to the west too.
yeston is good, they are selling waifu gpus.
Huh. Neat.
@@removeb4flight119 Just wanted to say, most likely half of the customers don't want the card, but the waifus :D
Hey Linus, a while ago a brazilian tech named Paulo Gomes inspected some MLLSE and 51risc gpus and found these had their memory painted to match batchs and to looks like new instead heavily used. Their announce always said 99% or 100% new, but now it has as used because of that info.
Memory die wear just like any other electronic component. From what i renember from this case their gpus were used from mining company. So in short gpu will die much faster and live much shorter.
@@Craft97plmining gpus aren't actually bad. Those "short lives" still can make a few years which is still good for the price because you're gonna upgrade it anyway. Unless you are really unlucky.
They also use used gpus with overheated too-darkish compound and even with scratches on die. But because PCB is new, they advertice that cards as new.
All of these are refs or refabs. Not a single one BR and RU community dissected had a new GPU or VRAM. Some RU repairmen dissected hundreds of these and all of them had at least a used GPU.
nem todas eram com as memórias pintadas, depois desse escândalo parece que reduziu bastante isso.
Your killing it with these new vids, the labs product tests is really the right direction.
this aged well
@@NoChance-oz4dd this aged worse
@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd how exactly ?
@@NoChance-oz4dd it's back to business as usual, they've bounced back and the only lasting effect were higher-quality videos. Been nothing but a positive for them in the long run
Yeston is a legit brand that isn’t as well known here in the US and Canada, but they make some cool and interesting looking cards. The GN review of their CutePet RX580 is what first drew my attention to them. I would absolutely buy one of their cards for a build for purely aesthetic reasons, because they make stuff in colors my wife would really like. The only bummer and reason I haven’t gotten one is that they’re a little slower to market with the models they sell, and they stick to more mid-range and budget cards than I’ve been in the market for in the past. Eventually, when that isn’t the case, maybe I’ll get something with more feminine colors for my wife’s gaming PC, and do a pink and white build or preferably cute little critter like their mascot YuanYuan (or however it’s spelled).
I was under the impression that Yeston was becoming a reconizeable brand. their unique styled cards are interesting, instead of a black gpu box. steve from Gamers Nexus reviewed one and it wasn't bad either. If LTT does a gpu round up at some point I think the Yeston could be added
i like that they are going for another style too
cant forget the perfumed boxes they come in
It is actually a very recognisable brand in China, quite all-rounded at a fine price, really nice budget choice
It surprised me that Linus didn't knew about Yeston tbh
Gamers Nexus steve still runs his RX 580 cute pet at home, I can feel it.
tbh i wouldnt say that YESTON is an off brand gpu...it's not known in the us or here in europe, but in Asia they actually sell a lots, especially their limited edition gpu...those things have a pretty neat and cool design tbh.
Only in China. I live in south east Asia. I've never seen Yeston on retail store shelves. Smaller brands like Zotac, Galax and recently Colorful are plenty available in retail stores.
@@fleurdewin7958 i live in Indonesia and Yeston is pretty well known in the community
They're the exact opposite of cool, interesting, maybe.
@@JordanIdk Well, that all comes down to opinion rather then factual statements lol. Seems that their cards work as advertised though so as long as you don't mind the ascetic then why not lol
I have the Yeston GTX 1660 Super and it's pretty good
We see a lot of Taiwanese brands in Japan that rarely make it to the west. Palit, Gainward, Galakuro (technically a rebrand of Sparkle cards from what I understand), Leadtek, Elsa... It can come off as a bit suspicious when you've never heard of hem before, but they're legit Nvidia partners and very big throughout Asia. I think Yeston is Shenzhen based, and is also mildly well known here for their GPUs/cases with anime girls slapped on 'em. They're kind of their own niche lol.
I’ve actually seen Palit cards in the European market. And even Gainward seems to ring a bell to me.
The only name I've not seen in the UK is Galakuro. The rest have been accepted as 'standard' tech brands for quite a long time.
It was quite normal in the past to see multiple brands with identical looking cards (other than the logo) because they were all made by the same manufacturing company that often had a name unpalatable to the western ear or tongue (no racism intended, it was the view of the markets - not me!). That's why you'd see consumer products with 'Panasonic' or 'Technics' branding rather than Matsushita. Sometimes they were only different externally and you'd only know if you had one of each and took them apart. 🤓
Palit is very well-represented in the European market. RandomGaminginHD reviews their cards all the time
Gainward is great, really cool designs. We have them in Europe too.
We've had Gainward and Palit since forever in europe. I remember my first GPU, a GeForce 3 TI was from Gainward. That was 22-23 years ago.
It would have been interesting to see how the cooling solutions held up against each other. Maybe those cards have such little power consumption, that it is a non-issue anyways and thats why it wasn't included? But otherwise I think it is pretty important to know for someone planing to buy one of these cards. I imagine especially the refurbished ones could have a bad noise profile due to wear on the bearings or bad temps due to old thermal paste.
those cards are far from overheat because those are not high power gpus
i love that LTT Labs can test the reliability of the gpus and everything else but i miss when linus would swap the gpu out on his test bench and we could get a live reaction.
Bro I thought it was me that commented on this. I haven't even seen this video until now xD
LMAO
Round world
It's hard for him, bro. Linus got hate whatever path he takes.
That's why i skip these type of videos. It's only graphics that no one is interested
I was on Amazon the other day and I saw this and I was like the heck is this?! My main concern would be warranty and lifetime. Selling refurbished cards as new is scummy as heck and does not bring confidence in me.
Idk, having a 51risc 5700xt for about 150 dollars while having some semblance of warranty beats buying used name brand 5700 w/o warranty any day. That is only if only the 190 dollars 6600 is not a thing, but the 5700xt is a bit faster
At least Ebay scammers have the decency to just never send you a card and never message you back. Imagine thinking you're getting a new 1660sup as a first card for that price and actually getting a refurb POS with a cheap sink and worn out fans.
Depending on the price difference, warranties can be over rated. According to the numbers in this video, these refurbed cards sell for about 2/3 of the price. Currently most of the "major" brands have 3 year warranties. So if it lasts you 2 years on average, you break even. Statistically, I think you will beat those odds. GPUs aren't the sort of thing that break after 3 years if it's working at all. Since all of the cards in this video works right now, I'd bet more than 2/3 of them would still be working in 3 years.
And it's also a lot faster to buy a new one than to wait for RMA. You'll have much less downtime.
Like other types of insurance, you're actually paying an extra premium for risk reduction. If they're so cheap that you can eat the cost of risks, doing that is always cheaper than buying insurance (otherwise the insurance seller wouldn't profit). And at $150-200 as opposed to something like $1000, I think this is a case where most gamers will save money by shouldering the risk themselves instead of buying insurance (aka warranty).
@@lekhakaananta5864 These shitty Chinese brands are known to die within weeks of purchase, so no, your odds are NOT good.
@@Gabu_ wtf are you talking about, it's the total opposite. You often see people praising these Chinese brands other than shitting on them. Unless you bought one, and you were REALLY REALLY unlucky, most of them are just fine. Bough one last November and it's been running 24/7 ever since. Working rock solid without any bad signs.
I would love to see Linus review the other Yeston cards - particularly the other sakura edition cards as well as the RX 7900 XTX by Yeston.
Yeston From China，His after-sales service is terrible
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Linus, you returning to making videos full time was really a great move man!
I am surprised to see Yeston included in this, I've seen them for years and they seem to be a solid company. The fact that newegg marketplace is allowing used cards to be sold as new makes me want to find a new place to shop.
Newegg with their shenanigans again
Newegg saw what Amazon did and said hold my beer
more like "oldegg" but yeah thats very disappointing. But amazon and co are equally bad
Of all these brands, I can say for certain that Yeston is legit. I love their anime style GPUs. If they weren't so expensive, I'd get one. Of course, the extra expense makes sense since they do put some real effort into making their cards look unique.
Their non special edition cards can sometimes be found on the Chinese market places like Aliexpress for good prices, but getting a warranty claim is going to be a bit more of a hassle, and you have to watch the temps as their coolers sometimes are not the most robust as from what I'm seeing from reviews, but I think some better thermal paste, and case airflow can help offset it somewhat if you do find a good deal on one.
I certainly overpaid for my Yeston 6700XT. I was looking to do a white build. I thought I was lucky when I managed to snag a nice white Zotac card, but then I saw the Waifu Cards on Dawids youtube and I was smitten. So, not only overpaid for the Yeston, but also hit with a Zotac restock fee. That being said, the card has performed very well and I love the look. Only downside is that you can't mount it vertically/90 degrees because it'd cover up that amazing backplate - oh and mine didn't really smell perfumed....
Yes. Yeston is pretty well known for their AMD cards
Who cares what it looks like? Performance and sound are the only metrics that should matter. Anyone buying a card for looks brings the old saying to mind "A fool and his money are soon parted."
@@gbedford Color over performance eh? Thats some big brain stuff right there.
Honestly, if they had listed these as refurbished, I think it would be pretty cool. It comes with a warranty. You don't have to worry about being scammed with buyer protection from Newegg. Dishonesty in their post was their only downfall as far as I could see.
This kinda of off branded GPUs are really popular in Brasil, Aliexpress have a lot of used GPUs refurbished by these brands and selled by half of the price of a brand new one, I myself have a 1660 super that was refurbished I bought by half of the price and is working just like a regular 1660 super since last December
I actually bought a Yeston 3060 a few months ago for $200 and I was really expecting a scam or dead card and while the cooler wasn't the most impressive thing, the card itself has been rock solid. Pleasantly surprised
Often "you get what you paid for" is how major brands upcharge the consumers. Sometimes you just gotta take a chance.
Yeston actually isn't like the other brands in this video. They're a legit Nvidia partner that have been around for a while. They're most well-known for their waifu cards
Yeston is like Colorful, they sound like knock-offs or scam cards to us in the West because they don't sell them here, but they're legitimate AIB partners in Asia.
Where do you find such prices? ;(
imagine paying $200 expecting a scam
Yeston is intresting because of their waifu cards, and is also one of very few companies creating white GPUs
Shutup and take my money
Literally bought one just because of gamers nexus showing me that they existed
I think Gamer's Nexus actually highly recommended some of them for their build quality surprisingly. But maybe I am thinking of something else or misremembering
Yeston also makes somewhat unique-looking graphics cards as well
They do one that actually creates a perfume-like smell...
You briefly touched on it, but Elsa is also a known brand. I used them in my first PC build over 2 decades ago; Gladiac Geforce 3 200 or something, I think. Even came with a game bundle which I can recall playing, but not by name. They left the North American market and are mostly now available in the European market. I would have bought them again, to answer your question. They were a good brand.
3:52 whats the sort of belt thing that the products have at the shot while linus is in the store
Perhaps Linus had never heard of Yeston, but they're somewhat well known for a smaller brand (owing to their Waifu cards) and their stuff seems like actual quality from all the testing I've seen. I'm certain they wouldn't sell you junk.
It hasn't been long enough for me to definitively say it's not junk, but I haven't had a single issue the least 6 months I've been running one of their 7900XTXs in my rig. As long as it stays that way I can 100% see myself buying from them next time around too
Yeston is actually quite popular in China Mainland.
Yup yeston is known in my country too. As far as I have seen they are legit.
GamersNexus has tested quite a few of their cards and they're definitely legit.
Yes.
It is a Chinese company which is focus on the China market.
In China, it's definitely not an off-brand company, although it won't be considered as a great brand like ASUS.
Yeston is in the list of "AMD Global Add-in-Board (AIB) Regional Partners / Brand Holders".
But in my memory, it's not a NVIDIA AIC company. (They had made some NVIDIA cards, but if you're Chinese, when you mention this brand, the first thing come up in your mind is its AMD card.)
I can't find it on the NVIDIA partner page, however, it seems Yeston is pushing their NVIDIA products and on the purchase page of Nvidia’s Chinese official website, Yeston is called as "伙伴" (Partner) recently.
Besides, about waifu card, another company in China, Maxsun, also makes a series of waifu cards called "瑷珈" (not sure about English name). I have one. In China, maxsun is similar to yeston, but they are more focus on NVIDIA card. "瑷珈" has RTX30/40 GPUs now, maybe you will be interested in it. Search "瑷珈" on CZcams, you will find some videos about it.
Somehow, some manufacturers made a functioning desktop graphics card out of a laptop 6600M gpu, and Aliexpress is flooded with those. A lot of people buy it here in Brazil - but I'd really like to see the lab test weird, Frankenstein-ish things like that card and those laptop cpus soldered into desktop motherboards, see how well they perform against normal products.
Seconding this. Would love to see rigorous testing of those products.
I think the Toasty Bros did a video on a 6600M a while back. I believe it performed similarly to the desktop 6600, but with lower power consumption.
I am interested also. Any idea what they are advertising it as?
@@kcscott11they call it a 6600m. Most claim it's new, but it may be using refurbished parts.
@@kcscott11 It's just straight up listed as an RX 6600M. My friend has one in her living room multimedia/couch gaming PC and it works great. AMD software recognized it as a 6600M and installed drivers with no issues. I've seen her play Gotham Knights on it and it gets 60 fps on high settings while only drawing 100w max.
This was a very informative video, thanks! Useful info to have and consider next time I'm building.
This was a good video subject. I would love to see more product comparisons.
Yeston I've heard of, they seem to be a legitimate/reputable company. They make the cute cat face GPUs and the waifu Sakura GPUs that Steve over at GamersNexus has reviewed.
Yeston has a rather nice looking Sakura themed case on their NewEgg store page. It's a little spendy for some but it's still cheaper than my Corsair 5000T case. It would make a nice display system because it's different. :)
GN's reviews of Yeston products seemingly always end something along the lines of "slightly below average results, but nothing concerning, buy it for looks not performance."
@@LaughingOrange Which is very true. They are indeed different. Especially if you're building a system around using things that are different. I think he said they perform around what an OE model of card would. So good for stock but not great like an OC version by a board partner. But if you're doing it to have something that others don't then you just have to bite the bullet and pay the "Different Tax" to get it.
Linus always comes with topic I search for
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He just buys user data and knows what you are searching for /s
@@CodeArt313OmG the fBi is SpYinG on Us WiTh Our CamErAs and ToOtHpAste
@@CodeArt313he makes the videos in 0.4 ms
I had a Yeston Nvidia card a long time ago, no issue with it. IIRC it had a beefy heatsink for a fanless setup too which was kind of unique.
1:06 "I was determined to get to the bottom of this, so I tasked our labs team" ...to do it for me.
On markets like here on Brazil these cards have been a god send to Pc gamers on a budget, a few months back we had a community of CZcamsrs who would by and test out all of this different cards and came to similar conclusions as the ones on this vídeo, nice to see this theme tackled on the channel.
yah ive heard things are crazy expensive there for pc stuff. Dont seem fair does it.
@@gigglehurtz3167Brazil has some crazy import taxes from what I remember. I'm from Chile and travelling to Brazil is a bit weird on the streets, until you realize everyone is driving the same cars, all manufactured in Brazil like VW Polos and Foxes, Ford Fiestas and Opel Corsas. Not a single Honda, Mazda, Subaru or Mitsubishi in sight.
@@gigglehurtz3167 on my point of view it's more of a problem that basically everything on this current day and age is accounted for in dollars and currently our currency is not really that strong considering that when it first started it had a 1to1 exchange rate with the USD and now it's about 5to1, so we ended up earning a lot less since then. We also have an astonishing amount of taxes so we work for about 5 months a year only to pay those aswell...
@@diegoleiva7242 to be fair there's lots of hondas/mitsubishi here and you can find some old mazda and subaru from time to time
Why are you lying? These cards are known to use mining memory modules, which die in less than a year.
A similar video on monitors would also be helpful. I've noticed a lot of random brands popping up with decent specs but no credibility
For those,
Probably can be summed up as,
Yes, they are useless. Atleast most of them are useless.
OEM will be useless, but some brands that are actually In house brand of the monitors factory, might be worth it. You need a guide though to traverse the sea of junk tho.
for monitors you usually want one from a reputable brand with reviews
we need this coment to be on top
Yeah I saw a 1440p 144hz monitor for just over £200
Holy crap it's £160 now
Thanks for doing this, this is very useful for anybody trying to upgrade on a tight budget.
Really appreciate ppl like you doing these kinds of videos. I am a budget builder always looking for deals, but I am always suspect of things that sound to good to be true.
Yeston is a good brand, I have been using their cards since the 30 series. I have two right now, a Sakura 4080 and a Sakura 7900 XTX. Performance is exactly what you would expect from a reference design but, you buy them for the looks however.
Yeston is by far more quality than XFX, which is a widely known brand.
Do you mean the 3000 series or something else? Because I hope you don't mean that within the past year and a half you bought it and then bought 2 more to replace it.
@@DeathClawzthe 3080 came out 3 years ago.
@@AchiragChiragg I guess Google lied to me, but still that's just up to 3 years for a top of the line card
@@DeathClawzpeople can tend to upgrade often or have more than 1 pc
I reckon the iCafe cards are often sold by Colorful to be rebranded for OEM machines. They seem to be often used on things like medical equipment, arcade computers, industrial machines, etc...
can you give more details on thermals, serial numbers mentioned in invoice + sticker on card + sticker on BOX + GPU ID. standard warranty plus extended warranty options
You should doing the "Operating Life Testing",the testing was put in the test part into the oven by heats about 10~20 mins.
To speedup the components oldization.
I got myself an "Envinda RX580 8 GB" from Aliexpress a year ago to bring my 2nd PC a bit up to speed. Seller did make clear that it was a refurbished card. Turns out that chinese RX 580s are usually the 2048SP version thats more like a pimped up RX570 (the 2048SP part was present on the offer page, but relatively hidden). But I paid just 75 EUR incl. shipping (84 USD in current exchange rate). That thing works like a charm and even many newer games are still playable in Full HD and reduced details. Its decently manufactured, cooling works well but I am aware that getting any support for the card, should the need arise, will be next to impossible.
Bro, I took a huge risk & ordered rx5700 from the same "Envinda" vendor (yes gpu scarcity & price in my country is that bad). I took a xfx 580 2304sp mined in 2019 & its still serving me very well with zero issue which actually encouraged me to buy another one from aliexpress. But this time I bet on a generic brand. I will get my hands on it within a few days. May God bless me!
all of those are "refurbished" gpu's, they desolder the GPU out from old mining cards and solder them on a brand new PCB with new cooler and rebrand it as new, it may look new but if you inspect the compound around the gpu chip itself, you can determine by its color how hot those GPU ran before and sometimes you can even determine how much life it has remain, darker color of the compound indicated it ran hotter for extended periouds of time, pretty sad they didn't adress it in the video.
if you go to taobao, there are dozens of rx580 with 2048 shaders sold for 30$
One of the RX580 make of cards is actually selling for £50 delivered today.
@@alberta3157 That is true, and some of those chips may vary, I got one of these rx580 2048sp 8gb in november, I opened it, and everything seemed "new" and clean, even the thermal grease and thermal pads were good, except the chip that was darker than normal, and the number on the chip was from a RX 470, I talked with the seller because they didn't specify that the chips were random, and got a 15$ refund. And the GPU was 80$.
I'm pretty happy with it, I came from a gt1030 that I was using since 2019, it runs on 1286mhz GPU clock and 1750mhz memory clock, but seeing that I have and old i5 4570, I make it run on -20% power limit, so it doesn't get that hot. I'm lucky, because I never had any problem with it.
@@leonardo25gabriel its a great bargin none the less, some taobao sellers even specigy what chip is it , you can even get the RX 580 with 2304SP at only 50$, I'm going to order one even though i got 4070, even if it is used and the gpu die is dark, you can at least get two years or more out of it hopefully.
Did you had any drivers issues? i heared there's many driver issues with it, but with the correct bios it shouldnt be a problem
0:49 if the editors of this video intended this to be a Superman reference, I respect that
Mxyzptlk would totally run an Amazon scam
was there a lick test at around 5 mins? good lab 👍👍
This is an incredible video! Please keep up the good work! It's the kind of video I was looking forward to for many years. Keep more of these coming.
Thanks for the interesting review! I would have liked to see some more Graphs about Noise and Heat of the GPU and VRAM. Especially because they performed so similar in the other tests you ran. Just an idea for the next time you do a similar video.
Gamers Nexus did a few reviews of Yeston cards .. they are legit and more anime/style oriented brand. Half the stuff they sell have story pages about mascots of each product and other things.
I bought the 51 risc RX 6700 I bought the Sapphire Pulse 6700xt first. Watching this again refreshed my memory. One of the gold fingers on the connector was worn down considerably and the rest of the connect looked like it was inserted multiple times in a tin slot with a bunch of dust.
Guys, please include some footage of the lab testing. I was excited to see the lab in action during these kinds of videos... We want to see the things do the things, not just the charts. Thanks!
Yeston goes hard on video cards with waifu designs. Its definitely a brand I recognize and have seen on the market for a while. I think they are a step above the other makers on this list. In fact, they probably shouldn't be on this list. I've seen Corn before too but I believe they pretty much exclusively rebrand and import other products to western markets.
@@lurch789it's a different preferences as always. People today turns PC into their decoration rather than just a "working tools" like how the old-timers do. Aesthetics and functionality, there is nothing wrong to choose either or both of them
@@lurch789 i'd say it's just how some people want some sense of personalization to their PCs, and in everything else basically, cars, bikes, etc. people want to make their belongings unique and personal. and people have different taste, just like you who ultimately prefers function over looks which is perfectly fine, i myself like colors on my pc (static color, my pc theme is black and orange) and i buy rgb stuff + lian li o11 d cus of the tempered glass, but i do put my pc literally right beside my monitor so i still look at it from time to time. and i know some of my friends that do love the all black low profile look too.
@@lurch789 It is actually scientifically proven that people who surrounds themselves in an aesthetically pleasing environment leads a less stressful life. Meaning less stress related diseases. So contrary to popular belief, aesthetics is incredibly important. Sure it's unreasonable to waste too much money on it. But if it costs about the same, then you should go with the more pleasant looking one.
@@lurch789 I know people that absolutely had to spend more to get RGB... yeah... I personally don't, but the person did.
@@NyangisKhan but they don't cost about the same, that's the whole point
I'm surprised you guys added Yeston, they are well known for their waifu cards. And I'm talking the lastest generations and everything.
I almost got a 7900XT from them just to save $40. Lol but luckily I waited a few days and Sapphire dropped their price by $80.
there is a Yeston version of that SRhonyra card, with gddr6, and a lower price. pretty decent little card if you need an LP single slot
you should try aisurix for comparation, its not super cheap but kinda like a minor brand in the market. its booming lately with overing a full performance like big brands but much cheaper in price
I love you guys have the labs and are able to test stuff like this. I never would have known Newegg has changed how it sells stuff as a marketplace now a day.
ELSA was a good brand around 2000. I still have an Elsa Erazor X² (Geforce DDR) with the 3D Shutter glasses of that time.
They also made modems.
I believe, thats not that ELSA. Old brand went bankrupt and other company now uses that old brand - nobody will sue you for that, if that old brand don't exists anymore.
@@MrGedem Yes, a quick search brought up some news about bankruptcy (decades ago). Maybe someone even bought the rights to the name.
EDIT: ELSA was a German company back in the day.
The brand has been sold as part of the bankruptcy. You will most likely get sued if you use it. However, the current ELSA product‘s have nothing in common with the reputable brand of the 90s (which is a shame; I had some pretty good cards from them).
I see a ELSA box, they are around since the 90s. ELSA had a very cool (and Rare) active 3D glasses for TNT2 card, which was realy unheard of. There was a special connector on the card and it was very immersive and cool for that time. Somethin you could investigate Linus!
I was wondering if you were ever planning on making a video about whether or not Disable Full Screen Optimisation and also Fullscreen vs Windowed Fullscreen etc, I see so many tutorials like ''how to optimise X Game for Win 11'' that still suggest this but apparently it's not a good idea anymore?
Thank you for making this video. These listings had me very confused. I'm glad to finally get some answers as to what's going on here.
Dawid does Tech has fabulous videos about these kinds of cards tbh
I once bought a refurbished AMD RX Vega 56 that was listed on eBay a couple of years ago for less than 300 bucks. It was the best choice I ever made. The card has been running perfectly in an overclocked state for at least 4 years now and still allows me to play newer games on a 4K ultra wide monitor with surprisingly fluid speeds.
Don't ditch hardware just because it's refurbished, doesn't mean it performs any less than a new card.
Cool video. This cards are all the Rage in Brazil since people can get it through ali express. MLSE, YESTON and 51 RISC being the go-to. I didn't trust this cards and got from a regular brand, but they have a very good general feedback, people are even getting 3080s from this manufactors. However, as people pointed in the comments already, some of this cards have repainted batches of memories with known issues. So its kinda russian roulette.
I have some graphics cards from Mllse in use. My AMD RX580 has been working without problems for over 3 years and I also recently started using a Radeon RX 5500XT. Replacing the thermal paste is a must with these types of graphics cards, because they really get too hot because the cooling is not optimal.
That is true, but they run hot even with a thermal paste change. I got an RX 590, and it runs hot just like the R9 380x it replaced. They handle the heat well but dont have much headroom for overclocking as a result unless you improve cooling significantly.
This is some of my favorite videos, you show what the average user would encounter or what they could afford/be aware of. Original tech tips.
A good test for labs would be too slightly over clock the memory, if they have been heavily mined on then it might crash in games....
I bought a 51Risc AMD Radeon RX 580 from Newegg and have been quite happy with it for my budget PC build. (I think I paid like $85-ish for it) It appeared to be completely new to me, but came in a pretty understated cardboard box with just the company's name and the card's name. I will say, the internals of the packaging were high quality, and I have had zero issues with the card. GPU-Z says the memory is made by Samsung. The manufacturer is generic AMD/AMI though. Overall, I'm happy with it, and if it was used... it was cheaper than most of the used cards I looked at, and it was in perfect condition when it arrived.
i bought the same one...haven't installed it yet, but the one i got looks brand new, too
51risc kind of blew the internet in the 3rd World last year with their 6600m for desktop, that unlike the M versions from Nvidia, their AMD mobile/desktop GPU version could and still can (I'm rocking one of those in my PC) update drivers normally through adrenaline or just by downloading the latest driver from the AMD website.
Yeah I have a friend with one, it's an awesome card
Woot has some brand name 1660 supers 180 USD depending on the manufacturer. Scored a Zotac Mini 1660 super that has minimal coil wine, kind of expected this for an open box. Still very happy.
I got 2 ELSA 1660 super from aliexpress for two teen builds. Got them in less than 2 weeks
This is pretty interesting but unsurprising. Yeston is a pretty well known and real brand (i've actually seen yeston models rebranded as the other brands like they do with colorful or galax), but others like MLLSE, 51Risc and some that weren't here like SOYO and JIESHUO are all well known, atleast here in Brasil, as refurbished mining card sold on places like Aliexpress.
However GPU and hardware prices here are so awful, that, in a lot of cases it can be genuinely more affordable to risk heavy extra taxes, bad and malfunctioning gpus and unknown reliability because the other option might very well be no gpu at all.
The 1660 supers are a newer entry that I started seeing a few months ago. It started with RX 580's though. Some other youtubers dug into those and found that they were refurbished RX 570's with new fans and 8gb vram
Looking forward to sharing a course with you! Weather is indeed looking beautifully Welsh 🏴
I bought two of these a couple years ago on Newegg. Corn-branded RX 560s that actually ID as 460s. I still have them in my kid's PCs.
Swear to God all this off brand stuff and horrible online markets are so much fun to watch. Also informative for new people in the tech world.
A price for performance graph would have been interesting to see.
1:20 is that a pair of Sony Inzone M9 monitors ?
I thought you went quite hard on them in the short circuit 😂
thank you for not using any motion blur camera jank in this video
I heard Yeston from GN, they make pretty interesting cat themed GPUS
The only tech scam for which I’ve ever fallen is with the HDMI 2.1 Switchers. Having only one port on my TV means I’ve always had to get up, unplug, plug in, have it recognize and switch my settings, and then sit back down. It’s not horrible… but it’s annoying. So I bought a $40 switcher about one year ago. Needless to say, it did virtually nothing of what it advertised. Even specifically stating 8K60 on there. Ugh. It was some random Chinese company :/ I can only imagine someone less technically literate being scammed out of much much more moolah.
So does a thing like that actually exist or not?
There is no such thing as 8k60. Just buy a basic switch if you need one that is a modernized display or HDMI.
@@spaghettigodoriginalmediaWhat the hell are you on about? 8K60 most certainly exists and there are HDMI switches that support it. Blackbird for example.
@@FunningRast Linus + other channels proved it only a sharper image up to 2k even his staff can't see beyond 1080 only slightly 2k + same with others. The second adds a hint of yellow that is all under 2k value.
@@spaghettigodoriginalmedia That’s completely different than “there being no such thing as 8k60”. Pixels don’t just disappear when you can’t tell the difference between resolutions.
back in 2010, I bought an off brand 250GTS, it couldn't hold stock clocks... I did need to lower clocks on startup with MSI Afterburner...
Hey! Yeston had the anime ones! GN did a review of a full anime build of like a 4070 or whatever
I got two rx 6600 for my kids, from mllse, working perfectly for more than half a year. And upon inspection they seem like brand new cards. I had doubts at the time, BUT the price was too good to be true.
I picked up a few of these a while back to see if I could use them in the systems I sell. Conclusion: So long as it's a low thermal output GPU then they seem fine. The very VERY basic cooler design on most of them is the only issue I saw that caused an actual issue. So long as thermal output is easy to manage they run great. This includes overclocking memory to see if they'd fail (none did). The GTX 1660 (pick a flavor) cards seemed to be a sweet spot. Even the RX 580 8gb, in a well flowing case with plenty of fans, can be a thermal issue if not undervolted slightly. These thermal concerns were an issue even with quality thermal paste/pad swaps by the way. - That said, as soon as GPU prices dropped I switched to used-non-mining cards. Fewer concerns overall and brand names (which can help sell PCs). ------- Edit: I hear that the 30 series mobile based dedicated GPUs can be great price-to-performance deals but haven't tried any.
DO NOT buy mobile Nvidia GPUs on a dedicated board. Their only use is for mining. For other purposes, driver support is abysmal. Official drivers won't work, so the seller will send you hacked Nvidia drivers with malware...
@@vinylSummer - Ahhh, good to know. It seemed like there had to be hacky workarounds with them which is why I never tried one.
hey Linus, can you make triple projector setup instead of triple monitor,i have never seen anyone do triple screen with projector
I got a JieShou one which was a mining laptop GPU installed into a desktop card
MLLSE and 51RISC are refurbishing mining cards or even selling mining cards previously.
I've been using an RX5500XT from 51Risc for about 6 months, so far so good
Yeston is a pretty established gpu company in china, they are kind of on the same level as colorful
I used to have 2 Inno3d (not a well known brand) gpus back in 2012-2014, and they performed just as good as any other big brands, Inno3d is best budget brand. I still have much love and respect for that brand.
I currently have an Inno3D GTX 1660 Ti and yes, it performs beautifully, and its clock frequency is well over the official value. Couldn't be more satisfied for how much I paid for.
the red arrow in the graphs is really a good addition
I saw a few SRhonyra GPUs on Amazon the other day and thought they looked interesting. Checked them out a bit more and saw they had some RX 580s with SIX HDMI ports. I'm guessing they just make stuff for special applications, like those multi-screen menu setups at fast food restaurants. That said, I can't imagine a great use case for the 1650 in the video.
You should do a episode like this with power supplies!
Yeston isn't that unknown afaik. GN has done a couple videos on their cards and they're pretty solid.
I've been using a KLLSRE 6800XT for 7 months and it's been doing okay... Seems to be a Lenovo rebrand and it does run a little hot, but I did pay ~$370 (R$1800) for it, so it's been 1000% worth it!
thats hell of a deal
Yeston is legit, they also accept custom order card plates for a price
0:47 lol Mxyzptlk, nice superman reference to whoever did that (ik it might be from the older video i just wanted to call it out)
When bifrost rx 7600? Features a blower and axial fan. Pretty interesting card :)
Not even 3 days, i was wondering how good is this gpus so thank you linus for clarification❤