AMG Accidentally Built The Perfect Car
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AMG Accidentally Made The Perfect Car. Even though they weren’t even a car maker. The 190e was a failed experiment from Mercedes, But when AMG took a chance at fixing Mercedes mistakes. The two companies stumbled into creating one of the greatest cars ever: 190e Evolution. And with that car, not only won championships, but also cemented AMG and Mercedes racing legacies.
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hold up, how did you comment 10 hours before this video was even uploaded
@@Grool21 scheduled the upload with a pinned comment written at the time of upload, not too hard to figure out lol 😂
@@Grool21the 190E Evolution II Road Car still is infamous on IA-15 on GT4.😂
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He meant on the track
The W201 was extremely popular with high sales and a strong reputation in period, how is it a “failure” before the Evos according to the first 20 seconds of the video?
The 190e was designed with the rally program in mind, only to be immediately scrapped when it was deemed to slow against the Audi Quattro. It was Mercedes' failed experiment in Motorsports, which is the topic of this video.
How can I create the evolution using the base benz.
Asking for a friend😅
@@surfside75buy the parts and bolt them on your base 190e
@@albonfilms also it failed in the US market, Americans thought a Benz should be BIG for the money and they couldn't justify the price for this baby Benz, at the time the US market believed a compact car should be dirt chip & FWD, compact cars from Chevy, Ford, and Honda were out selling the W201 10-1.
@@albonfilmsbadly phrased then. Without the 190 there might not have been a C-Class today.
Failed experiment? It is one of Bruno Saccos masterpiece
And also one of the most underrated DTM cars in GT4 to 6.
I think this car model was one of the most enduring and well built models in history the opening statement is a bit disingenuous.
Indeed
The W201 was created so Mercedes Benz would have a compact car that would be considered entry-level. Rallying was never the primary reason. They only used the W201 as a platform for rallying because it was the most practical model to use.
Did they used W203 as chassis for Rally Car as well?
Not really. Mercedes had a wholesale ban on motorsport during the time, but they did indeed want to downsize, also keeping in mind CAFE regulations in the US. They went about meeting those with the W201 and W124, engineered for 4, 5 and 6 cylinder engines, with diesels at the forefront. The engineering requirements for the W201 were quite high, as expected from Mercedes of the era, so the 190 had to be indistinguishable from an S class from the driver's seat
The board of directors wouldn't green-light the project without it winning the WRC, which was scrapped because Audi's Quattros learned to take corners, so RWD cars just weren't going to be competitive ever again
@@istvanlorinczi2817 I said the company wanted an entry-level model. I never said they were going to sacrifice Mercedes-Benz standards in producing the car.
With the W201 already existing, the company wanted to enter WRC with Cosworth developing the engine for the rally car. Realizing that they could never compete with the Quattros, they turned their focus to DTM. Winning the WRC was never a condition in producing the W201.
@@eatsmylifeYT "*During the development program of the 190 model", codenamed W201, the German automaker considered entering into the World Rally Championship. But all those ideas were abruptly changed when Audi launched the S1 quattro and dominated races. Mercedes-Benz understood that its rear-wheel driven car wouldn't stand a chance against the mighty all-wheel drive turbocharged machinery from Ingolstadt."
Why wouldn't Mercedes enter DTM as a factory backed effort from the beginning, like BMW did? Because the board of directors were furious that they spent a ton of money on a rally car project that went nowhere, and perhibited any further development of a sport version of the W201, and the 2.3 16 engine as a whole. The board didn't want to race the cars, Mercedes engineers built the 2.3 16 in secret to begin with
Between Albon & Automobilistic, my nostalgia for "Up to Speed" has a little relief..Always great content from Albon.
R.I.P Donut Media
Companies buying other small-time channels or organizations almost always equal a depreciation in quality nowadays. It's the sad truth, and it shows.
Donut media was not very good. The Donut media AMG video features a 190e on the thumbnail but isn't even mentioned in the script.
@@commandohazelnutsyes. Same also to Carwow before.
RIP WHO?! oh just another generic unoriginal channel out here, gotcha ...
It's a tragedy that Mercedes and BMW are diluting their racing badges (M and AMG) like this. The identity of both of these brands in many people's minds is their heritage and excellence developed through their long history, but that is certainly not what their current shareholder-minded executives seem to think - nor what their cars reflect.
18:15 Lewis has 7 Championship titles
I’m guessing he’s a Massa fan!
6 was with Mercedes 1 was with McLaren i think he means
@@kylenutley473 I think hes joking about how people say Lewis has eight WDCs
@@ducky1699 Indeed, he has 8 titles as much as he has 6, depending on who you ask 😂😂😂
I intentionally left out the mclaren WDC to stay on topic of Mercedes and AMG history
Starts naming cars like the sls and e55 then just ignores the sl65 amg black series. Great car that is largely forgotten
Fantastic vehicle. I think it gets forgotten because lineup wise it kinda gets lost between the SLS & SLR. I like to think of it as the hero car of the German auto industry of the 00s when everything was getting crazy ass powerplants with no abandon
The w201 chassis was not a failure. Was and is one of the most beloved chassis ever built by Mercedes. (Do better on your re-search)
Martin Brundle famously said it was the most brilliant car he's ever driver.
Narrator: That wasn't true.
It was over engineered and I’m kind of disappointed that no one ever talks about that.
Just for a historical note. In 1955 the Mercedes-Benz raced the entire year in the WSC with the SLR except the first 2 rounds. Prior to Le Mans they raced the Mille-Miglia and Moss set that famous world record that will never be broken. After Le Mans they raced and won at Dundrod and Targa Florio and won the Championship over Ferrari. So, they actually retired from the racing scene at the end of 1955.
Also, you mentioned Hunt, but the first name is not Jack it's James.
At least we are safe knowing that AMG will never produce any good models again, so this cars' legacy shall remain eternal
I've owned my 8v 190e for 5 years and I'm never selling it. It is my 1st car and it's the best car.
190E AMG is the GOAT ❤
Benz is the greatest
Getting the 190E to be respectable at motorsport was pulling teeth. For as off the pace they were throughout it's life it's amazing that the 2.3-16 gets the credit it does. I'm glad they stuck with it for the one shining moment of the EVO 2 but wow that was a literal decade in the making.
Being said though, it's a feat in it's own to hype up a fast Mercedes, do a look forward, and completely forget the 500E, the 500i Indycar, the SL73, the CLK GTR, The SLR Mclaren, or any of the Mercedes Mclarens that managed to wrench a championship out from that domination of the Schumacher/Ferrari pair. Or you know, that first championship that a certain british chap had before going on to win 6 with a factory Mercedes.
Yeah that engine is weak sauce.
Great video! Kamaz Dakar rally team story is quite interesting also.
Man I got the popcorn out when I saw the thumbnail of your video with he 190E! I honestly learned so much from this video
My in-laws still have their couple of 190D 2.5 non turbo.
The 190 platform was conceived as something out of heavens!
I would like "Years Germany does not talk about for $500, Alex"
yo I actually love this channel, congrats on 300k
I remember a lot that the 1992 AMG Evolution II 190E still a legendary DTM car on GRAN TURISMO 4 to 6.
I get that the 190 E revitalized Mercedes racing but it is defitntly not the only car that comes to my mind when i hear the words Merceds racing or AMG. The 1997 Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK GTR from the FIA GT1 Champisonship is the one I think of. I mean it dominated both the 1997 & 1998 seasons winning both the Driver & Team championships back to back all while having competition from the BMW powered McLaren F1 GTR & the Porsche 911 GT1. Crazy to me that you didn't at least give it's engine made by AMG an honorable mention when bringing up Mercedes racing at the end as it is one of the best AMG V12's ever made. The engine is so good that Pagani even used the same engine up utill 2016.
very well made clip, with good subtitles, really good.
I absolutely love the picture of senna on full attack with a sec in the background❤
congrats on 300k albon!!
Thanks to you guys! 🙏🏽
@@albonfilms no problem man happy to help you!
oh yeah, just realised that🎉🎉
As a Mercedes/AMG fan, it really is disapointing the state of their new cars. Cheap feeling, crossovers, the 2.0 "c63" I do hope they return to making good cars again. For now, I'm happy with my E55
GG 300k sub!
190E was the legendary Mercedes racing car in Motorsports history and i love the 190E so much.
YES... Another Banger From Albon!
The Mercedes Benz 190e Evolution II Is A DREAM CAR!
At around 12:10, if by "aero covers to redirect air to the wing" you mean the one on the rear windshield, that's not why that piece is there, the reason is much cooler
That piece only exists because DTM regulations didn't allow a wing that would block rear visibility, so Mercedes just made the rear visibility worse, and what goes on the racecar, goes on the homologation special
The 190 was definitely not a failed experiment😂
i agree. that **is** the coolest t-shirt ever
Your content has improved. You're finding your voice. Doesn't sound forced anymore. I've always dug your content, but the delivery felt like you were trying to be something that's been done. Now I think I may have been wrong and just didn't see your vision. Subscribed, cheers.
Even more beautiful irl, my aunties partner had one around 15 years ago stunning EVO II
The e190 Cosworth that James May drove on top gear is my favourite car pity they don't make it or developed further 😢
In the early 70s Ford UK did a Race of Champions at Brands Hatch to promote the mk1 Capri.
The Capri went on to a truly legendary Touring Car career until BMW swiped the crown.
My mom has a GLE? You learn something new everyday!
The fact that Audi and BMW had to add balast to "level the playing field" has nothing to do with it...and nothing to do with the fact that both left DTM and refused to re-enter a couple of years later...
9:10 goosebumps ✨
New Albon video 🔥
I have an c230 kompressor w202 and after 300 000km Its still in good shape
How many evos by different manufacturers are there?
Another Albon banger? Well well, just let me slip in here and hit the like button real quick.... Done!
Just a quick one.
Pls can you link to a source that the data collected by these cars is sold and what it is they are selling. A SPECIFIC case.
I say, nothing is an accident in the automobile world. Every car is produced meticulously with many hopes of the existing market requirements. Excellence functions. Many Key performance indexes, in Mercedes-Benz cars are tested in tight condition, evaluated. In fact other car manufacturers are scared of it. It's high standard.
I expected the CLK GTR 🤔
Jack Hunt lol Hope no one relies on this channel for accurate information.
Aaaah, Mercedes! I drove a '89 220 as a young driving-licence-owner in the late 00's, bought for a 1000 bucks, 90PS for over 2 tons, great memories of that tired, but chilled-to-drive car!
The dashboard looked exactly the same as at 9:53
The 190 was prominently used in the french movie "Taxi", of course for the bad guys, because the old French feud with the Germans at that time, three black Mercedes' against one white Peugeot: czcams.com/video/Iiq5b4-5ges/video.html
apple carplay on the j90 supra? no, we still need that hackintoshed supra
Jack Hunt ?? James Hunt I think...
U hear all that then they came give us a four cylinder C63
Did you mean James Hunt when you said Jack?
Beautiful
The CLK-GTR was a monster
Excellent
Its funny i just found out about this car like 2 weeks ago and now this video comes out
5:58 whats the song that starts here
You didn't mentioned the CLK GTR AMG Collaboration.
CLK GTR was also one of the biggest reasons why AMG are still known for up until this day besides the 190e EVO and EVO 2!!
@@UguisuAnko12 yeah, but I guess he forgot
AMG started the horsepower wars their best cars came from the mid 2000’s, the bias at the end of the video I can’t agree with
It’s just being a cameraman 😂
Failed experiment? That car was a sales success in like 150 countries
Even now DTM isn't the same since they decided to go with gt-3 cars
btw im german and your german is actually quite good
"Certified hood classics" LOL!!!
What about the CLK DTM sir???
Yeaaaaa. You meant to say "8... I meant 7 championships"
Or he's backing up Felipe Massa's title claim 😉
18:31 the irony of the video criticizing a 4-door AMG sedan with a 4 cylinder turbocharged engine while the entire video is on the foundation of Mercedes-AMG which began with a 4-door sedan with a similar engine.
Please, a Hammer is far more important than any 190.
Bring sedan/ coupe racing back and i mean street legal upgrades
So excited for the GTAonline version coming out this summer 🎉
Is albon quitting albon too?
W204 C63 will also go down in history as
AMG Hammer the coolest name ever? The Diablo would like to have a word with you!!
More videos and as much as fast possible 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Cool story , this car is legend!
AMG as not envolved in the EVO versions,only Cosworth...
4 Zylinders, that's the traditional Performance 190/C-Class...not the big fat 8 Zylinder in the last decades...
Also came with the straight 6 m103 (2.6)
...and then came the Alfa Romeo 155ti and smoked them all 😂
"the" modern era mercedes racecar is the clk gtr, no question about it. the w201 will always be in its shadow
The w201 is the shadow. Without it, the C class does not exist.
AMG 32 !!!
God that's gorgeous look at that
Great, all of that for bmw to show up with the e30. Nice video tho
no chance against my beloved m3 e30
Give me a turbo’d 2.6l m103 190e over either the E30 m3 or the Cossy Evo’s
15:10 So the part where audi pulls out of dtm is just wrong. They pulled out because of some protests and some back an forth over the legality of the new crankshaft for 92
Also dtm never raced a group c class. They raced group a till 92 and from 93-96 a so called class 1 rules.
iloveuman feel the same
16:22 What does group C have to do with DTM ? There is no Group 1 in the DTM.
For me, this video is really hard to watch. Too much focus on entertaining and to less facts.
The title: Why accidently building the perfect race car ? Why was it perfect and why accidantly ?
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Calling the 190 W201 "a failed experiment from Mercedes" is quite a false statement. In Racing Terms I agree, but when it comes to the actual purpose of the car and the engineering that Mercedes-Benz put in the W201 Chassis, Sales numbers and the Community that has built up over the years arround the W201 it could not be further away from the truth.
Why is it better than a hammer?
It's anything but a failure. Heck with out it there'd be no M3 .
Thank thank you thank you for making a video on the BabyBenz190E that gets no R-E-S-P-E-C-T. I have asked Donut media for years to do this and I know James would of nailed it but they ended up getting controlled by who was paying them and now we see why they fell apart. Well no love lost to Donut media I'm still watching there channel😅 But I really do love these cars W201 I own two of em one of them I did a motor swap on using the M104 3.2L engine from a 1998 Mercedes-Benz E320 and mated the engine too a manual 5speed transmission and I added a turbo too using a Megasquirt 3 computer my second W201 I did a motor swap using a M103 3.0L from a 1997 sel 300 😅 thank you so much for making a video like this❤
Only the racing version of the 190 evo 2 was a masterpiece. Unluckily the road version is just a 190 with a bodykit, so slow and chill drive...just look at Davide Cironi's test drive.
The m3 e30 or a Sierra Cosworth will beat the crap out of an 190 evo 2.
my dad owns 2 so this is my fav car
However, Merc is making the AMG badge worthless. You see it everywhere now. Evidently on everything.
First sentence and already wrong. The w201 is one of the most successful cars ever
Jack Hunt
you missed ETCC... and the name Mercedes comes from dealers daughter... and 190 and audi never rallyed in the same class
Meanwhile.....AMG had nothing to do with 190E....... Mercedes went to Cosworth for their racing project 😂.....AMG just put the biggest V8 to every Mercedes you would give them
Donut has been slowly but surely degrading in content quality. This automotive content is up there when they still made up to speed. Please keep making these videos.
Some guys at Donut has split off and created their own channel.
@@NexuJin yeah, Big Time is the channel name, I believe.
@@cornedbeef4332 jup
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i didnt expect so much misinformation from YOU, the e30 was a racecar tuned down for the street?? really? or you meant strictly the m3,in which case yeah, they made it a racecar once they decided they want to race it, whoop-tee-doo, and the numbers of the golden era dtm hp was closer to 380-400, not 340, and yes thats insane... maybe the 340 figure refers to whp
Mercedes gtr clk