How To Fly The P-47 - Pilot Familiarization (1943)
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- Describes flight characteristics of the P-47 Thunderbolt, including service ceiling, speed, power, fuel consumption, turbosupercharger system, use of turbo and throttled landing gear and flaps, armament, and switch and control panel. Shows use of the P-47 cockpit trainer.
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How to Fly the P-47: Pilot Familiarization
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My grandfather flew 88 combat missions in the P47. He had advanced dementia and I would play this for him because it got through to him. He seemed to recognize this. He can only remember things from very long ago. He has no idea who his grandchildren are but he remembers this so thanks for posting it.
Memory from long ago is referred to as crystalized memory. It includes this like long friends from childhood or things they used to do. Reminiscing therapy is good with or without photos etc. Good luck.
@@dr.barrycohn5461 He said had man. My Grandpa had a similar thing.
@@_MrTrue and then said "He has no idea who his grandchildren..." Indicating present tense. So either there is a typo given the proximity of the S and D keys, or the comment is valid. The OP left that for the reader to decide on if the glass is half full, or half empty.
Awesome thing to do with your Gramps; you are a good soul spending time with him.
They used to say, if you want to impress a girl, tell her you fly a P51, but if you want to come back to her, fly a P47. Flying Tanks.
Nice man good comment
DAMN, man. Hell of a GREAT comment. Bet that P-47J was an M1A1 of the air.
Here are the stats on that: About the same number of P-51s were built as the P-47. But, the P-47 was in the war a year longer than the P-51 (in appreciable operational quantity).
The P-47 flew 746,000 sorties in Europe while the P-51 only flew 213,873.
P47 losses were 3,752 while the P-51 losses amounted to 2,520
The P-47 killed 3,499 enemy a/c in the air while the P-51 killed 4,950 ( (P-47 ratio .004/sortie, P-15 -.023)
Loss ratios per sortie: P47- .005 / sortie, P51-.011/sortie
So, if you flew the P-47 one thousand missions- you would get shot down on just 5 of those missions.
If you flew a P-51 one thousand missions, you would get shot down on 11 of those missions.
But, if you were trying to become an Ace, you would want to fly the P-51- 23 kills per thousand missions
P-47s only managed to shoot down 4 enemy aircraft per one thousand missions.
But, the kill ratios of the two fighters is rather unfair. The P-47 was primarily used in the fighter/bomber, ground attack role, while the P-51was used mainly as a high altitude escort. Additionally, the P-51 sorties averaged about 3 times the actual air time as the P-47 due to the long range capability of the P-51, so the P-51s were actually exposed to enemy defended airspace a little longer than the P-47.
@@acadman4322 also, the P51 was introduced a lot earlier when the Germans still had more fight in em... So higher kill and loss rates ..
the Jugs came in a bit later replacing the Spitfires and P38's in well seasoned squadrons.. So lower loss rates and better air superiority (less enemies in the air) so lower kill rates
Tyrone Marcucci they are my favorite fighter of the era, closely followed by the maligned P39/P63's. But the P47 was the absolute best flown in every theater!
They told the kid, a ‘38’s the thing
It’s got two props and guns that sing.
It’s got plenty of range, and can carry a load
And it’s a friend to have on a combat road.
But, the kid looked up and said in revolt,
“You take your ‘38, I’ll take a ‘Thunderbolt’.”
Then they said, “The Spit’s mighty sweet
And for maneuverability it can’t be beat.
It met the Luftwaffe at its best
And records show it passed the test.”
But the kid just answered, with a smile and a shrug,
You take the Spit, I’ll take a ‘Jug'.”
Then they said, “Those two are pretty hot,
But they don’t have what a ‘51’s got.
It’s got the guns and it’s got the speed
And more damned gadgets than you ever need.”
The kid looked up and shook his head
“Keep them both, Mine’s a Jug instead.”
The kid spoke, “Your ‘38s sweet,
Your Spit’s pretty hot and the 51’s neat,
But, listen fellows, I’ll make a bet
Just fly those ships, they’ll kill you yet.
And when you’re up in “Pilot Heaven”
I’ll still be here in a P-4-7.”
Lt. E. C. Buckley
Saw one documentary where a p 47 pilot in a low level dog fight flew thru a tree. Upon returning it was noticed it was missing some wing and 3 cylinders off the engine. Yet it still returned.
My high school principal flew the P-47 over Germany.
Got shot down, and spent some time in Stalag Luft 3.
(The great escape.) He was there after The Great Escape.
After VE day, he was in the Pacific theatre. I knew he was
a POW in Germany, when I was in HS. Didn't find out the
rest, until a few years ago. Ralph F Kling, Fremont HS,
Sunnyvale Ca. Last time I checked, he is still with us.
(Updated.)
He passed, earlier this year. 96 years old.
steve
A fully restored P-47D flew to my town here in Idaho. I was amazed at how quiet it was compared to the P-51D. That huge turbocharger give the Thunderbolt this deep, rumbling whoosh of an engine tone. It just speaks "POWER".
The sound of round.
Thaks for putting this up. Finally I can fly that 47 sitting in my back yard.
I was privileged to fly a thunderbolt once, many years ago: it was like being on a VERY FAST motorcycle,responsive
;almost anticipating my controls!
Cool!
I was privileged to see one land once. One of its tires blew out and it veered off the runway. Then it nosed down and the propeller sliced into the ground. Pilot was OK fortunately but the plane was stuck there over a week. You can't exactly walk into Walmart and ask for a P-47 Thunderbolt tire and propeller!
@J.R. Bussard It's actually pretty amazing that it was only a week or so before that plane left again. If a propeller hits the ground, in most circumstances you have to tear down the entire engine to inspect for damage, and usually there will be some... and engine parts for Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasps aren't exactly easy to come by these days.
Nice!
WOW, man. The father of my ex-girlfriend flew an F-U Corsair off the USS Princeton on ground attack missions over Korea. GREAT man. And I am SURE you are one, too.
My Gramps sunk U-520. He went onto DH-98's the greatest Allied plans of the war. He had 4 x .303 and 4 x 20mm cannons.
The Mossy should do about 400. Knts.
It was built here in my home town and my Grams built them.
London Ontario was.The heart of Allied air training.
To all brave men who flew against our.enemy , you guys were awesome!
Ok i'm familiarized? who's got a P47 for me to go and fly?
you will have to prove it and pay for the Gas
DCS World
@@theeltea lol yeah man
I do
It is sitting on the ramp at Oceanside Airport in Tucson, Arizona. Keys under the seat waiting for you.
Fascinating ! My dad flew Thunderbolts and Mustangs during the war. I remember he was saying he had to learn all the controls back to front and blindfolded as well.
Well of course! You can't fly a plane by just staring at the gauges
A lot of credit has to be given to these wonderful aviators who masted this. It's a lot to remember. Thank you fellas!!
yep.
A lot of the P-47 A/C were built in Evansville Indiana. Some of my relatives helped build them.
In those days there was no duel training versions of these fighters when pilots flew them for the first time they really were the first time they ever flew in them. Must have been some life coming from small farming towns in America where might have never even driven a car yet to flying a complex fighter like this.
The old saying The Whole Nine Yards comes from the P47 armorers. The machine gun magazines held 27 feet long 50 caliber belts. They laid the belts out and took nine steps and broke the belts. When the pilot shot at a single target with all their ammo they gave it the whole nines yards.
Imagine there was a time when this was probably TOP SECRET information .
Restricted only..as shown in intro.
P47 Thunderbolt The Nazis bombed pearl harbor in less time than it took this clown to explain one important fact.
MATTHEW LITVAK idiot
@@matthewlitvak2695 Wow!!! I didn't know that Pearl Harbor was hit by the Kriegsmarine Luftwaffe.... Uhhh!!!! That's a long way from Wilhelmshaven....
MATTHEW LITVAK f*ck off you useless piece of sht
Smooth.... very Smooth, I'm watching this like my life depends on it.
The first P-47's used the Curtiss Electric prop and subsequent models used improved versions of it till the late D models came out. These final issues were fitted with the Hamilton Standard prop which was completely hydraulic.
The grandfather of the A-10 Warthog.
In Africa the wart hog is highly respected for its courage and toughness.
Except this plane was survivable in contested airspace.
You know what, man? The A-10 needs a replacement. The A-10 D. Night vision. Upgraded avionics. Updated processors. Upgraded weapons. Make that time-tested BITCH the OWNER of the night. Just DO it.
And, while we are at it, redo the fucking A-1 SKYRAIDER to make it operational in the modern environment.
@@Varnaj42 Ground Loop it is not a Piper Cub that will flip over. you are funny and they were made to ground loop to slow the plane down if the brakes failed.
Every fighter should have a legacy and nickname of itself, not the glory belonging to an ancient legend.
Love the way he finishes dressing while explaining details.
My granddaddy flew this plane And was eventually shot down by the Germans . He was able to ditch his plane in the Med and was picked up by some nearby ships. He was then nursed back to health by an army nurse ...my Gma.❤️ she is still kicking it at 97. Before my granddaddy died we took him to fly the at6 he trained in once again!
That's a really cool story! Give your Gma a hug for me, ok?
A great film with a bunch of great guys and planes that are now long gone. God bless them all!
Going 398 mph in 7.5 tons of steel like that must have been, well, INTERESTING.
18 cylinders roaring, giant propeller clobbering the air.
Then at the thumbpress, a barrage of projectiles, amassed, that could annihilate a building.
It looks like he's climbing into the cabin of a Mack Truck.
*Imagine clocking 600++ in a power-dive in this monster! You could sweep close to a '109' and the air-blast alone would take a wing off!*
I'm a private pilot, single engine, land, VFR. I watch these films and it's almost scary, the things they have to learn, let alone flying the dang thing, let alone with people wanting to kill you. I can't begin to imagine the transition from being a beginner to flying combat missions!
215 hours of flying in less than 9 months
www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196919/flight-training-on-the-eve-of-wwii/#:~:text=At%20the%20beginning%20of%20the,both%20basic%20and%20advanced%20training.
I'm a flying student too and it scares me too!
The biggest and heaviest single engine fighter of WW2, fast, incredibly rugged, used to escort the bomber streams before the introduction of the P51. Then she went over to the ground attack/close support role at which she excelled!
It never had the kind of impact on the Germans the Mustang did.
@@thethirdman225 true, but it could take a beating. better than the Mustang, and ,...come home , when the P51 wouldn't. just saying.
@@davidhmurphy1619 This comes up a lot but while it did happen, I suspect it has been overstated. The stories of radial (air cooled) engined aircraft coming home with two cylinders shot away are not wrong - that really did happen - but they were extremely rare. An aircraft shot up that badly probably had other potentially fatal damage or simply got part of the way before going down.
The cooling system is just one point of vulnerability of inline engines but biggest target area on a single seat fighter was probably the fuel tanks and perhaps other parts of the propulsion system, such as the propeller. So, while an air cooled engine _might_ have a better chance of survival, I wouldn’t want to take a bet on it by trying to fly over the Channel or the Pacific Ocean in one that’s been shot up that badly.
My point is that, while these things were possible, any single engine aircraft suffering that much probably wouldn’t make it back at all.
I want that training poster!
My absolute favorite WW2 fighter plane with P-38 Lightning my second favorite.
THE JUG WAS AN AWESOME BIRD AND ALWAY'S BROUGHT YOU HOME
Instrument landings in the Jug were easy.
1) Slide canopy open.
2) Throw out a brick.
3) Follow the brick.
I like the quote " the turbo system looks more complicated than it is" uhh no really it's extremely complicated! lol!! Matter of fact I know of one P47 that is still flying where the owners went out of their way to remove it because it was so troublesome.
Love the low key humour and casual vibe of the film, really such a contrast to the over-serious, jargon-heavy training materials you get these days.
The P-47 Thunderbolt has the advantage of an air-cooled R-2800 radial engine. It can take battle damage to a certain extent and continue running. The P-51 Mustang on the other hand, with its liquid-cooled Packard Merlin engine, has the vulnerability of the radiator and the coolant lines. One hit in any of the cooling system components, will result in coolant loss and the engine will overheat and down you go! 🇺🇸
Flak Jack Ed The P51 D had a compressed Rolls Royce Merlin engine
But it was a lot cheaper.
beautiful diagrams in the familiarising film and demonstration models.
The music at the start of this film really cracks me up 😂
I love that plane he was lecturing with.
It's like an infomercial for the P-47!
Hi Billy Mays here for P-47 Thunderbolt!
My favorite American fighter (bomber) of WWII. It drives my friends crazy. They ask, "what about the Mustang," ? blah ,blah, blah. For me it's the P-47 Thunderbolt first, then the P-38 Lightening, THEN the P-51 Mustang. Many a Hun tried to out dive a P-47 and died regretting it. They were superb ground attack aircraft too. Love 'em....
I 100% agree. Those are also my choices, in that order. Shout out to the Corsair and Hellcat too.
Depends on what job P51 had the range for bomber escort. Like a P47 pilot once said it should out dive anything because it sure as hell can't climb. But it was a much better ground attack plane.
Im the same, P51 was pretty, but I want ugly, and brother 3400 rounds is butt ugly to the 650 rounds in 51.
Nazis called them Yabo.
Patton ordered the retreating nazis what they were, and called the 47's to decimate them for not surrendering. What a site to see and hear 8-50s raining Hellfire on your few minutes left. Let me mention the P 40 as well. Loved it. P47 all the way
@@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu Corsairs for me. But I respect all planes in service for each had its job and time. The pilots make the plane and never the other way around.
Hey, buddy. I love ALL you guys. My uncle went through Europe with Patton's 3rd Army all the flipping way. And I served in an M60A1 with the 2nd Armored. But DAMN, the flyboys. They were our HEROES. And THEY were the reason we targeted the ZSU's FIRST. ALWAYS.
They not only did, they even had onboard computers. The P-47's principal opponent, the FW-190, used electrics extensively where others used hydraulics as in flaps, gear and other systems. Where coordinating constant-speed prop and throttle controls was manual and complex in most aircraft then the "brain-box" installed in the 190's throttle quadrant enabled the pilot to do it all with a single lever, making power changes in the heat of combat pretty much a no-brainer.
Thank you fellas for doing such a good job
dude this is the only youtube video ive watched in awhile where I didnt skip ahead and watched the whole thing
My favourite piston plane EVER!!
VladGoro25 poor plane no one likes him but he is a good girl
VladGoro25
Clearly
VladGoro25 czcams.com/video/IAXK5goYzVw/video.html
She is one fucking beauty.
And to think many of these young boys never had a car. Next thing you know their flying a fighter.
A BIG fighter!
Most came off farms where they learned to maintain Tractors and Mechanical things.
And think of the older guys hanging around at that time. They were born in the 1800’s. There were people born during the civil war who were still around st that time.
@@Properformancenutritioncom No doubt. That always amazes me. My great granny passed away an the mid 70's at 99 years old. She was born after the civil war but she did travel west with oxen and a covered wagon. When I was a kid she used to tell us stories about when she was a kid.
She was born before the first car was made. When she was a young adult, cars were still using big wooden wagon wheels. She was in her early 30's during WWI & in her 50's during WWII and I knew her. I was either 9 or 10 when she passed away. I can't say I recall lots but do remember her fairly well.
While these things, WWI & WWII were a long time ago, compared to a human lifespan, historically, it was like yesterday. "Old West" times really wasn't all that long ago. I am in my early 50's & I knew someone that was alive in the old west.
I always find it odd to think about that. These old films & even the civil war, is not all that remote historically.
Yeah, it is not all that remote. I am currently reading "Life in the Confederate Army" on Kindle. Been reading a LOT of Civil War history recently. Oh, no, not remote. It is LIVING history for those who will actually reach out and find it.
My dad was 22 years old in the Pacific PT Boats.
Basically flying a quarter of a B29.
At this time, people in their 70’ & 80’s were alive when Lincoln was President & the civil war was happening. Kind of weird to think about.
The people who watched this when it first came out were probably the same guys you saw in that footage of guys shooting up the German countryside in their P-47s.
my fuel tanks offer some protection? What a soothing idea.
Self sealing, different construction tanks than what you are probably accustomed to. They wouldn't necessarily explode on hit and would slow bullets down.
The 109 had an L shaped tank behind and below the pilot.
YOU: "How to fly a P-47."
ME: "Where may I find one?"
As Tyrone Marcucci said "If you want to fly something sexy, fly a -51. If you want to get home, fly a -47."
Well as an amateur pilot who only reached solo on light aircraft, but flew microlights I feel I could fly this aircraft. But I know I would die on enemy contact lol. But thanks for a great video.
Sehr verständlicher und pragmatischer Erziehungsfilm von diesem fliegenden Schwerpanzer.
Just smoked some Marijuana...
Now i am gonna learn how to fly this plane...
yes, still adjusting mixture and babysitting the engine all the time
Just thought I would step up my game and learn the basics on the original "Jug" today, courtesy of AirBoyd. Helping us button-pushing hacks to rise to our own individual level of incompetence!
My old boss flew the Jug; his first mission was ground support on D-day. His unit later transitioned to the P-51. To say he had great stories was an understatement.
For anyone who really wants to get into the details, check out Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles videos on the P-47.
If you never walk through a prop arc, you'll never get hit by a prop. Beautiful aircraft.
Golly, that was mighty fine
Yes siree bob! State of the art American air power at its finest! Keep them Hineys off your tail! 😉👍
Seems like a pilot had to have a good head on his shoulders to keep everything straight!
Who can remember so many switches? And what they do. Impressive.
I feel pretty confident now that I could fly one
Well I've got a P-47D-30 in DCS and I'm ready to take her up!
$100k? Even considering inflation that was a great deal.
Today, that $100K would be $1,520,656.44 with a Cumulative rate of inflation of: 1420.7% Here is today's Mustang ad price: Now for sale at Platinum Fighters, this immaculate P-51 Mustang for $1,799,000! About the Mustang: The P-51 Mustang Fighter, a North American Aviation, is one of the most iconic fighter / fighter bombers that is single-seated and was used during World War 2. In total over 15,000 of these were manufactured.Nov 1, 2015
The Mustang was a Beautiful Wonder.
And ALL those aircraft were created with pencil, paper, and slide rules. Goddamned fucking AMAZING.
I’ll sell my house & take two 😉
I would note that actual pricing I've seen is more like $80,000, I'm assuming there's some rounding and difference between production blocks to result in the $100k mentioned here.
Hollywood really stepped up to the plate to make these films!
In my opinion, it's the most beautiful fighter of WWII.
11:30 "unless you happen to get a Hiney on your tail".
A Hiney on your hiney.
Heine. just sayin'
@@robertmorris8997 Heine? Can you explain this more? In reference to what?
@@zedxrom7867 I don't know. That was seven months ago.
Heinie (pejorative)Edit
Americans and Canadians referred to Germans, especially German soldiers, as Heinies, from a diminutive of the common German male proper name Heinrich. Heinie is also a colloquial term for buttocks, in use since the 1920s. In German, Heini is a common colloquial term with a slightly pejorative meaning similar to "moron" or "idiot".
skimmed tbh but I feel pretty much qualified now. Will figure out the aerobatics and landing jazz as I go.
TY for posting this. Puts things in perspective for the military of today
My Dad was an instructor pilot in the "Arnold Scheme" as the Brits call it. He was at Darr Aerotech in Albany, Georgia. This program was to certify British students to fly. One Student named Ken Orton made it through training and then went on to fly and die in 146 sqdn in Burma flying P-47's. I have tried to find out more about him, but cannot, How he died etc. He left my father a photo of himself with his name and address in England. I would love to give this photo to his family. If anyone knows more about Ken Orton. Please advise!
Have you tried to contact a British Embassy?
Oh Man! Thanks for posting! Now I know what to do with that beast in my barn!
The start up of a P 47 is an organic, bone resonating orgasm of mechanical sound. Grab a headset, turn up the volume and search CZcams for "P-47 Thunderbolt Engine Start-Up & Engine Shut-Down". Choose the Spencerhughes video.
...and this lever can only be used on Tuesdays.
+surearrow 4 years later I'm LOLing.. Sincerely.
I've heard that on numerous accounts, P47s would return to base with sticks and branches sticking out of their wings
Engine cooling gills are open on that wall drawing.....I'm fit to fly :)
“Bullet Resistant Glass”....I wonder how well that worked.
Probably only slightly better than non-bullet resistant glass.....but that might have been enough.
Yeah, I noticed he didn’t “bulletproof” glass.
If the glass was hit at an oblique angle, it worked pretty well.
The P-47 was a mighty aircraft! It could not only dogfight very well it could also take a licking and keep on ticking. Unfortunately with that Pratt and Whitney R2800 double stack 18 cylinder engine it was a gas guzzler and couldn't loiter nor fly a complete bomber escort mission like the P-51 Mustang could.
The bubble canopy meant a lot to the pilots vision
i find this fascinating, gonna watch all the movies.
At about 5:35 the instructor say the airplane costs "a hundred thousand bucks" which equates to around $1.8 Million in 2023. That would pay for a small part of a modern fighter plane.
Why is that dejaveu all over again? 1:25 lol. Sign of the times I love these oldies.
The real flyboys that needed flying skills back in the day when there were no fly by wire flight computers and automation that did the manual physical flying and navigating for you.
That thing is HUGE.
I just came here to learn how to fly my P-47 Thunderbolt in War thunder .-.
lol its still a beast of a plane
lol same here, I take to japanese planes naturally, but US planes are very challenging
Eight .50 cal Browning machine guns could absolutely ruin your day.
high alt high speed cruising using american turbos and human cannonball test subjects with giant guns. its actually better to fade away than burn out. ha - wish i knew about the turbo eff blinker before...
22:18 he got us
The monowing design was ahead of it's time. The P47 could exceed 400 mph on one wing.
War is hell. You never know when your gonna lose a wing.
Sure surprised the Limeys when they saw that!
One of my dad's relatives flew p47s in dive bombing missions. Wish I knew more though.
As I understand it, after WWII, they scrapped the P-47s and kept the P-51s. Which turned out poorly in Korea, where they needed close ground support. A round in a P-51 radiator took that plane out, but you could shoot off half a P-47's engine and still fly home.
I was in the Air Force for four years and I can assure you you never want to underestimate the stupidity of the brass.
Dang! I should have taken the pilot course instead of the flight attendant.
finally I know how to fly a p47
(...Are you serious?)
They are talking about a constant-speed prop that operates electrically. Engine rpm's are controlled automatically in flight by a prop pitch governor.
Instead of hydraulics in a Curtiss Electric system the pitch is controlled by electric motors connected to the prop governor. This was a Curtiss design as opposed to the more widely-used Hamilton Standard prop that uses a hydraulic system that operates off engine oil. But engine power is still always controlled by throttle.
This might also be called "How to light well", that's one thing the old black and white film forced Hollywood to do, something too easily forgotten with cheap video cameras these days.
Ok... I am ready now
Ok, seems straightforward, let’s do it!😂
Statistics indicate 1 out of every 30 thunderbolt pilots forgot to remove their blindfolds when going into combat.
True. There were a few bugs, but once the issues were worked out, it worked really well. Though one test flight, it nearly gave the FW-190's designer, Kurt Tank, a friggin' heart attack if I remember right.
Gotta love The Jug
The P47 would have been the perfect plane to make a ground attack version of. With the air cooled engine that could run with jugs entirely blown off, had 8 .50 MGs and could carry bombs or rockets. So the Army Air Corp in their wisdom made a ground attack version of the P51.
@jjohnston94 That can't be that surprising when you think about it. The P-47 and the Bonanza probably have more in common with each other than the modern aircraft named after the Thunderbolt, the A-10. Piston aircraft haven't really advanced since about 1944, just improved, while jets and turboprops are in a different world completely.
This looks a lot easier than those wretched B26's. By the way, $100,000 in 1943 is now worth $1.5 million.