This truck is interesting. Trying to earn customers from Ford with the improved interior and similar body shape. Also trying to take customers from the Tundra by offering only a solid V8 with presumably better gas mileage (tundras main gripe). The 5 year 100000 mile warranty shows that they stand behind their product
Nissan of today is more likely to deny a warranty claim then approve it. The standard line is the vehicle is operating as designed. I have owned 3 Nissans and I currently own a16 XD with the cumins, great truck crappy company! This will be my last Nissan. The AC on this truck is so loud I can hear it over the radio. Nissans response is it is operating as designed. I call bs every vehicle I have owned I have never been able to hear my ac over the radio.
I Am Fernando I am a member of a number of the forums and there are a few of us on them that have this issues a couple have had new compressors put on under warranty and it helped the problem others have been told it is operating as designed. When you spends lot of money for a vehicle you expect it to perform as expected. Not sound like a meat grinder.
@@jasonlarsen3515 Nissan would have to raise the cab to have a place floor, then they wouldn't sell any as the older people wouldn't be able to get in.
@@25BEDFORD Maybe so, but he has his points. Some manufacturers are not a good bet in the long run for reliability. Nissan cars suck. IDK about the trucks. I've rented a Frontier. Too small inside for me.
@@nokoolaid I agree, Scotty has good and bad about everyrhing. 1st he loves Toyota, then he has something negative to point out. I will never buy Nissan Sentra car again. Bought 2011 for daughter in high school back in 2014 and the power delivery terrible, slap piston knock annoying. Hail storm and insurance thankfully. Reviews today pretty much same. Nissan Quest back in day was ok, loved the power and stability. Cut my hand on seat rail due to defect on several units. One thing for sure, car, truck or suv they all have the dreaded clear coat and paint oxidiation no matter the color. Saw on my vehicles and everywhere I would go.
Steven Crosbie I mean they could, but it proves nothing unless they’ve got the same tires. I don’t see what it proves otherwise though. I’m willing to hear you out though
I actually like the screen on it. It's large but fits in the dash like it belongs there not sticking up and out or looks like its sitting on top of the dash.
Only thing I don't like is it looks like a terrible fingerprint magnet. All the Nissan's I've driven with similar screens (and a newer Corolla oddly) always looked terrible cause they'd have smudges on the screens all the time.
@@chavezvale59 "Outrunning" as though they're trying to do 85 but can't while you can? C'mon now. You're just the only one willing to burn all that extra fuel for no reason. Seriously, you'll end up at the same light on the offramp.
The guy who drew the original next gen Titan literally knew what it needed to look like to sell. Nissan ignored him, and pissed every Nissan person off by teasing the warrior, the actual drawing, and then laughed at our faces......well the CZcams world has changed automotive history by forcing these companies to pay attention to what we want. I am a die hard Nissan truck man and will always be....but seriously wake up.....i love the new Titan, best value for a base pro 4x, but come on guys....destroy the competition
I have a 2020 TRD Pro double cab on order to replace my 2004 Nissan Titan with 184,000 miles on it. But for the 2019/2020 year Toyota removed the auxiliary transmission cooler for no apparent reason other than cost cutting, now guys are consistently reporting trans temps well north of 200F. This 2020 Titan has me reconsidering my options, especially if I can still get a King Cab Pro4X in that awesome new sand color. I've had quite a few things break on my 2004 Titan, but I've beat the dickens out of it, lots of offroad. The one thing that has never failed, that 5.6 Endurance engine, its an absolute beast. Everytime I go from my POS 5.3 chevy Silverado back to my Titan camping rig, I damn near give myself whiplash because of the difference in power that the Titan has. Decisions decisions decisions. Another thing Titan had in spades, turning radius. Folks don't consider how important turning radius is when in 4 low on a jeep track.
Jeremy Sheridan I have a 2005 Titan LE with 180,000 miles and it’s been pretty much flawless. Bought it off the show room floor almost 15 years ago. Maintenance and minor repairs and she keeps on a running like new. With that being said, I just picked up a new 2020 Tundra TRD PRO Crew Max in Army Green and love the truck. The good thing is It’s very hard to beat that Toyota reliability. You can’t go wrong with either brother but I think you will love that new PRO with that amazing Fox/TRD suspension.
Why do you care about trans cooler when you can barely tow and haul with a TRD pro? The payload is like 1k lmao. It's a horribly designed suspension system.
I drive a 2018 xd gas 4x4, I used to have a problem with the 7spd's shifting, but it has honestly grown on me. I know it's stupid, but it has become my reluctant partner in crime. I want to cruise at 35 on surface streets? Nope, you cannot have 5th gear for any reason below 41mph. Want 1st gear? Not without a trailer attached (not sure if they all do this, but mine skips first unless it's in tow/ haul mode).Want to deccelerate quietly? No chance- It gear brakes the absolute second you remove your foot from the pedal (and thanks to the exhaust on mine, does its best jake- brake impersonation, loud and proud) I think it gives the truck some personality. It functions as intended, but doesn't make the experience seem to appliance-like, or let you forget that you are in a truck. I realize that i'm likely in the minority here, but the "touch of obstinate" the truck displays when being used for non-trucklike things, I find endearing, Like the truck is complaining about not being worked -put a 10k trailer on it, press the tow/haul button, and the programming makes perfect sense. The only thing I would change is that I wish the truck would remember the tow/ haul setting when you re-start it.
I understand you i also have an 18 titan xd gas as far as the 1st gear i never noticed that ill have to check it out. And as for fith gear i accelarate to 38 to catch 5th and let it coast to 35 and i can keep it in 5th with about 1000 rpm at 35
I think you guys should add suspension travel as a specification. It really defines how a vehicle rides. It would also be good to see you guys compare a few vehicles of different genres on a high speed off road loop. People spend a lot more time on gravel roads than they do rock crawling.
When you're opening the rear doors to show the floor storage at around 9 minutes, is that the maximum those doors can open? It looked like they stopped there but that would majorly limit what can fit into the back area for cargo if they can't open a full 90 degrees.
@@cidlopez Man that's a huge disappointment. I have a Silverado double cab I have to trade by July and I really liked the Titan but the door issue and no 6 passenger option in the Pro-4x are two good reasons why Titan struggles to sell. What's so hard to put a good set of door hinges in, right? The crewcab Ford and Chevy have massive back seat cargo area.
bkpugsley I agree. I’ve got a sequoia that the doors open 90 degrees. Way better to get in and out. The Titan would be an almost perfect truck if they fixed the doors and gave a few more inches of room in the backseat like tundra and F150 have.
@@cidlopez Agree...I like how it doesn't have auto stop and cylinder deactivation...maybe they'll improve a few other areas on it eventually and be more competitive.
@@bkpugsley the rear.doors open up just fine...im a big dude with big boy toys and ive never had an issue with the doors. Anyone who says they do is crazy. The rear doors are rather large.
Still drive and love my 2010, very reliable. Really appreciate the interior updates, but still too much chrome. Pro-4x only way to go on the new model.
I have the exact same truck, but I do have the entertainment system with the TV screens and the headrest and all that crap I paid 64,000. I’ve been very happy with it. I have been averaging even up to 23 miles to the gallon at 90 mph on the highway, the city not so great but the faster I go on the highway the better my mileage is so far no problems with the truck. I love it.
LOVE my 2017 XD so much! It tows like a dream and is a comfy daily driver. Really looking forward to the 2020 update. Would love to see the Android auto integration - that and the longer bed look pretty great haha
I have a 2017 Titan SV 4x4 Crew Cab. I don’t care about the hate. I’ve got 60k miles (i know thats not much my old titan had 235k) but I really like it. Does everything I need it to do, bought brand new 32k out the door. Great truck.
good for you. too bad there is so much hate on these trucks. The truth is that almost all of owners of these trucks are very happy with their purchase. Why? because the guys in this channel, like so many others, don't talk about the long term ownership experience. Good value for the money. Very reliable. And most importantly, perform on par with the way most other truck owners in the 1/2 ton class use their trucks. My 2016 Titan XD Cummins, just hit 3 years ownership last month. Oil and filters only performed. Issues=1, auto tailgate lock. Fix=1 zip tie and 15 minutes.
I’m a Nissan fan, that said they’ll have to do more to be a true competitor to F150 & Ram. And these days, nobody buys premium fuel. And remind Roman this is a auto review channel. So a 4x4 truck needs to be tested otherwise viewers will go elsewhere to see it. Yea, seriously tell him that.
cyanideZack lies I just came from the Nissan dealership and dude straight up told me they aren’t selling. Old tech and i test drove one switches gears horribly. Everything i complained about they knew about. This is a 2020 and they still don’t have wireless charger i can go on for days. Better start with 10 off that 50 fully loaded
To answer your question, nothing. I actually think this may be a do-over. Look, maybe you guys have a spare $55,000 to $70,000 just lying around somewhere, but most of us don't. I want you guys to do another "El Cheapo Challenge." Base or work-truck trim level with a price tag of no higher than $37,500. I'm interested in knowing how much truck for the money can be had cheaply and who makes that truck! Ford, Ram, Chevy, GMC, Nissan and Toyota; all head-to-head! 🚚! 🐰
Don't like all the chrome, especially the rims and mirror caps. Also, it really needs the Ford style tailgate step. I'm not sure about the tail lights since we haven't seen it yet at night, otherwise it is a pretty nice truck in my opinion. If it can beat Ford, RAM and Chevy on MPG I'm game for this truck.
Bought my Titan new in 2004, 200k miles and only about 1300 in repairs in 16 years, still haul my track car with it. Maybe someday I'll buy a new one, once mine has 300k miles.
Have a titan xd with the cummins. love the truck, 0 issues. Got rid of my '18 f150 after recall #6. With issues out the a$$ with the "big 3" I don't think I'll buy a domestic again. Next truck is probably the new Tundra.
What to do? Gold hitch comparison, against all other half tons. With the others using their standard engines, along with their most powerful. In the mix make sure one from each manufacturer are as close as possible in the drivetrain specs. Using the highest capacity of the lowest V8 rating, that means a 5.0 Ford, 5.3 GM, 5.7 Ram, 5.7 Tundra, 5.6 Nissan of course. Or as close as possible you can get!
Nissan renewed the Titan and patrol as well in the same time but for Titan they change it from out and in side and you could call it a new generation. compared to Patrol which got just a facelift inside and outside.. the gear still the old one 7 speeds and the engine just accept premium to get 400 hp as V8 not talking about the V6 engine. I wish that Patrol got the new gear with 9 speeds as Titan and also the ability to fill it up with premium to get the maximum hp or regular if I don't need all the power. Thanks so much TFL team for the hard work keep it going 👍🏼
Nathan, I don't mind hard plastics at all. Soft materials don't last. I ride with my arm up on the door too, but I also try to keep stuff well after it's paid for. Soft touch stuff doesn't age well at all and it's not worth it to have a slightly more comfortable spot for my arm.
Nice looking truck sounds sweet and love the color. Like to see towing test with mileage for sure. Thanks for sharing Nathan and TFL. Hope you're able to get your hands on a Nissan Off-Roader so you can do cliffhanger 2.0.
Would love to a daily truck use.. how the tracks work in the bed, the general use of 4x4, real world mileage unloaded and loaded (payload). The towing is great, but not all of us use trucks for towing.
Can you find a relatively flat piece of hwy. Set the cruise control at 70mph, reset the fuel gauge, let it run 10-15 mile distance and give some MPG numbers please.
My neighbor just dropped by on Christmas eve to show me their new 2019 Ford F-150 quad cab pickup with the eco-boost V6 and it's remarkable how similar these 2 trucks look -- right down to the full cab Panaramatic moon roof. She took me for a ride and I'm pretty sure the engine sound is piped in because it sounds like a V8 when she punched it. I do believe the interior is done a bit nicer and the running boards automatically pop out. The mirrors also illuminate for exiting which is a nice touch. Here's where things drastically diverge. The Ford is about $74,000.
I think the best way to test it is by just doing average truck things with a lot of daily driver stuff added in. Everyone knows that if you need to go hardcore truck stuff, that this is not the truck for you. However if you need a truck for occasional things where you simply need a truck bed or to tow a light trailer or off-roading, then this truck might be a contender. Try showing me why that warranty is important and how much value it could represent over a lot of the competition simply ending their warranties earlier. I usually don't see a lot of trucks from 15 years ago still on the road but I do still see a bunch of gen 1 Titans.
Recently traded in my 2006 Titan for a new Nissan Frontier. Would have liked to go with a new Titan, however, I refuse to buy a truck with a column shifter. I spoke with a Nissan rep who stated that is a very common complaint from potential customers.
Nathan, dont forget about the best part of the truck, which is the behind the seat storage. Ive never seen a reviewer mention it. Ive got my tool kits, tow rope, snow scraper, emergency shovel, tire compressor, fishing rod, and more all behind the seat and clutter free. No other brands offer that, as far as i know
I would love to see it pulling SXS or ATVs on a good modern trailer please and thank you guys by the way you are the best at what you do keep up the great content
I Own à 2017 SV Trim, CrewCab And love it, 56,000 Km on it and service the oil only at every 8000km. I pull a small RV trailer 18 foot, great truck for my need.
Great trucks, I have a 2nd gen titan, nicest truck I’ve ever had and I’ve had them all. Throw in the best warranty in the business and it’s the most underrated truck out there!
Disappointed they got rid of the Cummins 5.3L ... To me, that truck was built like a heavy half ton but rode more like a truck with softer suspension. It filled a niche at a price point that was less expensive than anything offered by the other brands. Ultimately, I'd like a truck that can be used like a daily driver, but can occasionally tow a small compact track loader (about 7,000 lbs. excluding trailer weight) without straining. Reliability is also very important to me. I regularly put 300k on my vehicles before sending them down the road, and I want a vehicle that will last as long without mechanical issues. My current truck (2011 Tundra) isn't used for towing heavier items like my CTL, but I do tow about 3,500 - 4,000 lbs with it regularly (about 60 miles round trip to the races on friday nights). I have a little less than 250K on this one and it still runs great. Never had to replace anything but except normal wearing items (tires, brakes, battery, and the occasional headlamp/tail lights). Its hard to consider another brand given the track record I've had with the Toyotas I've owned over the years, but I would like to step up the towing capability with my next truck, and may lean toward a 3/4 ton vehicle this time around. Don't know which brand at this point, but I guess Nissan is out of the running without the Cummins.
I’d like to see the payload tested out! How’s she handle with a maxed out payload? Payload test, ride quality, then towing would be my top 3. I have an 18 that’s been on the road for 14 mouths and 20k miles. Love it except no apple car play or sun roof!
Having owned 2 first gen Titans, I would love to see an overall mpg rating as well as the feasability of DIY basic maintenace, front and rear diff , oil, transfer case etc. Love the channel guys👍.
@@Bru946 yeah, hes implying he wants to see videos regarding basic maintenance like front and rear diff(lube changes) not gonna happen on this truck. Now if you're talking about a solid front axle then yes.
Great vid👍like to see load bed up with weight to see weather handling n better then last model, do thing Nissan should replace tailgate?more like RAM n Chevy. Did new Nissan Titan get better fuel mileage then older model?
GCWR Ike run please. Also do a MPG loop please. This seams like a great value compared to the 70k F150s. Doesn't tow that much less than the 5.0s you guys have managed to run up the hill. (5.0 3.73 is one I am still begging you guys to test, but I know you are limited to the media fleet options.)
Interior looks better then gmc and Chevy Also a great looking exterior except those lights. Not like every other truck you see. 100k 5 year warranty out does all trucks. I'm a ram guy but this is better then most trucks and the price is nice.
The reason it has more power on premium fuel is because the computer can adjust the ignition timing on a higher octane fuel. Every vehicle is that way if its new enough it can change it’s own timing they just don’t say it
I want to see a different type of performance test. Take it to the track with a full payload and see how it accelerates with stuff in the bed from 0-55mph, which is average highway speed. And most importantly, test the breaks to see how long it takes to stop from 55-0. Also see if the premium fuel makes a noticeable difference when towing on the IKE. Also turn radius test comparisons. Drag race comparisons too. I think you should add this type of testing to your reviews.
No i would say Toyota is more like the GM of Japan. Functional but not revolutionary or flashy. IE GM still uses pushrod V8s in their trucks unlike Ford which has gone to turbo DOHC V6s. Just like Toyota which has stuck with naturally aspirated engines in all of their cars. They haven't gotten on the downsized turbo engine train. Some people seem to be confusing this comment as a criticism of GM. No I'm a Chevy guy 100%. Simplicity= reliability.
NPC1862862152-2 and cue the “archaic pushrod” bs. Nothing wrong with a pushrod engine. Anyone who’s had to deal with Pherd mod motors can attest to the unreliability of ohc engines
@@Welcometofacsistube I can't attest to an ohc engine being unreliable. I think ohc is easier to work with than ohv because if you need to remove the cam for some reason, boom pull the valve cover and the cam is right there. Ohv is easier when adjusting valve clearance, and it is far more compact. Ohv is also easier if there's a timing chain to replace, but then again ohc can be easier if there's a timing belt. It all depends on how the engine is designed. Some ohc engines are easy to get to everything, and some aren't. Some ohv engines are easy to get to everything, and some aren't. But I don't think either one is more or less reliable than the other.
Jacob Belcher 35 oh I do. This loooooong ass chains stretch, the amount of energy lost to rotate such a heavy mass and the complexity makes them more unreliable. Especially Pherd mod junk.
1st time truck buyer here, not really loyal to any brand as long as its not a ram Like the v8 in the ford, don't like its aluminum Love the looks of the Silverado, hate the interior Toyota will last me forever, hate the gas mileage Really like the looks of the 2020 pro4x titan .... downside? Havent seen one yet
The whole video I felt like you were sick or out of breath and hobbling around in a LOT of pain. I hope you feel better soon. Not a bad truck. And highway mileage testing unloaded is my main concern for daily drivers and road trips. Thanks.
Do a towing test with the MPG run if possible? I am a Ford Guy at heart, but this truck has striked an interest to me. Even the old body style back from 2004 is still a very nice looking truck. If I were to buy any other truck besides Ford, it would be this one! Nissan has done a great job with this truck! I like the design almost as much as the Ford and has me in a bind on which one to buy. Thanks for the review! Very nice honest content that's both informative yet also showing opinions on how things could and/or should be better. I've been subscribed to all of your channels for many years and enjoy the content you guys put out. Keep up the good work!
My 2017 SL 5 ltr Cummins has been outstanding. You might be right about the 6 speed Isen transmission. It's a little jerky. I describe the truck as a 5/8 ton and tow a 7.8K T.T. with ease and average 14 m.p.g. The Cummins tow package is what sold me. 650 ft. lbs. of torque and a 12000k gross tow capacity.
My new 2020 nissan titan shakes at speed between 65 and 72mph. I put 2 sets of new tires on this thing and it still shakes. I had to buy the tires because Bayou nissan where I bought the truck nor the nissan corpation would replace them. Even though the truck had sit on their lot for over a year and I was told by another nissan dealership the tires had flat spots. I was told by the dealership, the tires were not under warranty. I was told Nissan Customer care it was normal for the truck to shake at those speed. What a ridiculous response. Now, I see why their sales are declining and they stopped trying to sell trucks in Canada.
I’m not a fan of Nissan but the Titan has come a long way, I am mostly interested in the longevity of this truck. The older models tend to be riddled with problems. It definitely one of the best looking trucks on the market. I want these designs to transfer to the Frontier as well
I was never a fan of the Titan, but I like this updated one. Do the Ike Gauntlet. I would like to see how it compares to the 7 speed in terms of MPG and power.
Yes, nathan... If you can can you do a 0-60 time and 1/4 mile times as well as test it for ride and handling? The NISSAN TITAN FOR 2020 IS A HANDSOME TRUCK,Thanks nathan.
I had a 05 Titan . Loved it. But I will say I like this one much better than the last model gen 2. Frontier owner now, like it a lot. But struggling with the size. So this gen 3 Titan is my next truck. Would like to see it pulling a camper at of 8000 lbs. will the trans search for gears. Hope it still comes with the 05 version tow mode.
Nice review Nathan! Nissan is making progress. It looks nicer inside and out (full disclosure, I like red trucks). Would love to see it on the TFL mpg loop with and without trailer towing. Also would love to see it on Ike testing. Maybe it was your mic/location but I was not impressed by the exhaust note.
Can you publish the off road numbers? Approach, departure, breakover, and RTI? Hopefully Roman will let you at least get the RTI since it doesn't require any off roading.
How are you so blown away by the under seat storage in this truck? My 2007 Dodge Ram quad cab had this same set up, plus a compartment under it for additional storage.
This truck is interesting. Trying to earn customers from Ford with the improved interior and similar body shape. Also trying to take customers from the Tundra by offering only a solid V8 with presumably better gas mileage (tundras main gripe). The 5 year 100000 mile warranty shows that they stand behind their product
Nissan of today is more likely to deny a warranty claim then approve it. The standard line is the vehicle is operating as designed. I have owned 3 Nissans and I currently own a16 XD with the cumins, great truck crappy company! This will be my last Nissan. The AC on this truck is so loud I can hear it over the radio. Nissans response is it is operating as designed. I call bs every vehicle I have owned I have never been able to hear my ac over the radio.
@@billhelmick9721 look up Nissan titan forums or join facebook groups with other owners.. see if anyone else is having this issue
I Am Fernando I am a member of a number of the forums and there are a few of us on them that have this issues a couple have had new compressors put on under warranty and it helped the problem others have been told it is operating as designed. When you spends lot of money for a vehicle you expect it to perform as expected. Not sound like a meat grinder.
@@billhelmick9721 you are 100 percent right.
I think you guys should come up with a test to analyze the parking abilities. Which truck is easier to park in a parking space?
Legend has it Nathen is still trying to close the sunroof
Lmao indeed
And trying to install the plastic divider in the rear seat storage
I think the pain meds from his busted foot are getting to him. Lol
M D of all things F150 Nissan copied why not the flat floor?
@@jasonlarsen3515 Nissan would have to raise the cab to have a place floor, then they wouldn't sell any as the older people wouldn't be able to get in.
MPG testing
MPG towing testing
2019 Vs 2020 drag race battle
LIGHT off-roading
It’s a Nissan without a CVT. A true unicorn 🦄.
Not CVT
I am sure Scotty Kilmer is shocked.
@@nokoolaid no, Scotty Kilmer will tell you why you shouldn't buy the Nissan Titan.
@@25BEDFORD Maybe so, but he has his points. Some manufacturers are not a good bet in the long run for reliability. Nissan cars suck. IDK about the trucks. I've rented a Frontier. Too small inside for me.
@@nokoolaid I agree, Scotty has good and bad about everyrhing. 1st he loves Toyota, then he has something negative to point out. I will never buy Nissan Sentra car again. Bought 2011 for daughter in high school back in 2014 and the power delivery terrible, slap piston knock annoying. Hail storm and insurance thankfully. Reviews today pretty much same. Nissan Quest back in day was ok, loved the power and stability. Cut my hand on seat rail due to defect on several units. One thing for sure, car, truck or suv they all have the dreaded clear coat and paint oxidiation no matter the color. Saw on my vehicles and everywhere I would go.
naked mileage loop, towing mileage loop, Ike Gauntlet - those are the tests I'd like to see done with it. Maybe a seat comfort test also.
What he said! But please leave off the "tug of war" test...
Agreed!!!!!
Agreed here as well!
Why not have the titan vs f150 tug of war? Oh...Fanboys will get angry with excuses.
Steven Crosbie I mean they could, but it proves nothing unless they’ve got the same tires. I don’t see what it proves otherwise though. I’m willing to hear you out though
I actually like the screen on it. It's large but fits in the dash like it belongs there not sticking up and out or looks like its sitting on top of the dash.
Only thing I don't like is it looks like a terrible fingerprint magnet. All the Nissan's I've driven with similar screens (and a newer Corolla oddly) always looked terrible cause they'd have smudges on the screens all the time.
Test it by having your grandfather drive it the speed limit in the left lane for 100 miles. Now that's real world testing for that truck.
As a grandpa I resemble that remark! Passing lane is always buttery smooth, I just keep my flashers on as I cruise at 54 mph
I do not agree. I have the gas 2018 sv titan and love outrunnig alot of other full size pick ups.
😂😂
Dont forget weaving in and out of traffic during rush hour
@@chavezvale59 "Outrunning" as though they're trying to do 85 but can't while you can?
C'mon now. You're just the only one willing to burn all that extra fuel for no reason. Seriously, you'll end up at the same light on the offramp.
Nissan has improved the Titan a ton.. The 9 speed when we tested it didn't search for gears like I thought it may.. Nice fair review :)
The guy who drew the original next gen Titan literally knew what it needed to look like to sell. Nissan ignored him,
and pissed every Nissan person off by teasing the warrior, the actual drawing, and then laughed at our faces......well the CZcams world has changed automotive history by forcing these companies to pay attention to what we want. I am a die hard Nissan truck man and will always be....but seriously wake up.....i love the new Titan, best value for a base pro 4x, but come on guys....destroy the competition
My parents really wanted the warrior when they showed it
Great video but that fact that 50000+ is a "good price" for a truck is absolutely ridiculous
Nathan is one of my favorite reviewers. I feel for him with his bum foot and being out of breath. Hope he feels better.
I have a 2020 TRD Pro double cab on order to replace my 2004 Nissan Titan with 184,000 miles on it. But for the 2019/2020 year Toyota removed the auxiliary transmission cooler for no apparent reason other than cost cutting, now guys are consistently reporting trans temps well north of 200F. This 2020 Titan has me reconsidering my options, especially if I can still get a King Cab Pro4X in that awesome new sand color. I've had quite a few things break on my 2004 Titan, but I've beat the dickens out of it, lots of offroad. The one thing that has never failed, that 5.6 Endurance engine, its an absolute beast. Everytime I go from my POS 5.3 chevy Silverado back to my Titan camping rig, I damn near give myself whiplash because of the difference in power that the Titan has. Decisions decisions decisions. Another thing Titan had in spades, turning radius. Folks don't consider how important turning radius is when in 4 low on a jeep track.
Jeremy Sheridan I have a 2005 Titan LE with 180,000 miles and it’s been pretty much flawless. Bought it off the show room floor almost 15 years ago. Maintenance and minor repairs and she keeps on a running like new. With that being said, I just picked up a new 2020 Tundra TRD PRO Crew Max in Army Green and love the truck. The good thing is It’s very hard to beat that Toyota reliability. You can’t go wrong with either brother but I think you will love that new PRO with that amazing Fox/TRD suspension.
Why do you care about trans cooler when you can barely tow and haul with a TRD pro? The payload is like 1k lmao. It's a horribly designed suspension system.
This is the Titan I been WAITING for!
I feel like for the $$$ the 2020 Titan presents a really good value with good capability.
...also would love to see an unloaded/non-towing 100 mile MPG test.
Nissan 9 speed needs to spread to every single one of their cars and get the crap Cvts out.
jared novak you dumb af lmao CVT are good and responsive 🤦🏻♂️
@@BagboyGrubbin CVT is awful the rubber band sounds it makes is awful
@Paul von Helger the cvt is the only weak link in the maxima. Otherwise solid car..
Too late. The damage has been done, just switch over to team Toyota.
@@Lexman00 yeah same haha. I bought a manual as well
2019 Titan vs 2020 drag race with premium fuel.
why can’t all nissans have this transmission... finally a nissan with gears
I definitely can't complain about the hard plastic. It's far more durable than the soft touch stuff when it comes to actually using it.
Been a Nissan titan fan since it came out in 2004
Soon as I saw him open the back doors I thought wow they don’t open wide enough. Major con not having wide open door.
I have a 2018 Titan and I do agree with this .
I'm so happy the Pro4x has none of the plastic chrome that the this one has.
Forgot i commented on this a year ago. I'm pro4x shopping now. :-)
CEO of Nissan just fled from Japan to escape jail! I hope it doesnt hurt the company too bad.
Maybe make for a better truck
I drive a 2018 xd gas 4x4, I used to have a problem with the 7spd's shifting, but it has honestly grown on me. I know it's stupid, but it has become my reluctant partner in crime. I want to cruise at 35 on surface streets? Nope, you cannot have 5th gear for any reason below 41mph. Want 1st gear? Not without a trailer attached (not sure if they all do this, but mine skips first unless it's in tow/ haul mode).Want to deccelerate quietly? No chance- It gear brakes the absolute second you remove your foot from the pedal (and thanks to the exhaust on mine, does its best jake- brake impersonation, loud and proud) I think it gives the truck some personality. It functions as intended, but doesn't make the experience seem to appliance-like, or let you forget that you are in a truck. I realize that i'm likely in the minority here, but the "touch of obstinate" the truck displays when being used for non-trucklike things, I find endearing, Like the truck is complaining about not being worked -put a 10k trailer on it, press the tow/haul button, and the programming makes perfect sense. The only thing I would change is that I wish the truck would remember the tow/ haul setting when you re-start it.
I understand you i also have an 18 titan xd gas as far as the 1st gear i never noticed that ill have to check it out. And as for fith gear i accelarate to 38 to catch 5th and let it coast to 35 and i can keep it in 5th with about 1000 rpm at 35
I have a 2019 Midnight and I love the 7 speed as well. Added a Sprint Booster throttle control and the power is instant V8 awesomeness.
Everyone watches TFL for the mpg loops and tow tests
I think you guys should add suspension travel as a specification. It really defines how a vehicle rides. It would also be good to see you guys compare a few vehicles of different genres on a high speed off road loop. People spend a lot more time on gravel roads than they do rock crawling.
When you're opening the rear doors to show the floor storage at around 9 minutes, is that the maximum those doors can open? It looked like they stopped there but that would majorly limit what can fit into the back area for cargo if they can't open a full 90 degrees.
bkpugsley yep unfortunately that’s it. I had one of these and that was my biggest gripe. Doors opened to like 45 degrees.
@@cidlopez Man that's a huge disappointment. I have a Silverado double cab I have to trade by July and I really liked the Titan but the door issue and no 6 passenger option in the Pro-4x are two good reasons why Titan struggles to sell. What's so hard to put a good set of door hinges in, right? The crewcab Ford and Chevy have massive back seat cargo area.
bkpugsley I agree. I’ve got a sequoia that the doors open 90 degrees. Way better to get in and out. The Titan would be an almost perfect truck if they fixed the doors and gave a few more inches of room in the backseat like tundra and F150 have.
@@cidlopez Agree...I like how it doesn't have auto stop and cylinder deactivation...maybe they'll improve a few other areas on it eventually and be more competitive.
@@bkpugsley the rear.doors open up just fine...im a big dude with big boy toys and ive never had an issue with the doors. Anyone who says they do is crazy. The rear doors are rather large.
Still drive and love my 2010, very reliable. Really appreciate the interior updates, but still too much chrome. Pro-4x only way to go on the new model.
I still have a 2013 and all I have had to do is a battery replacement and the front brakes. Damn good truck.
I have the exact same truck, but I do have the entertainment system with the TV screens and the headrest and all that crap I paid 64,000. I’ve been very happy with it. I have been averaging even up to 23 miles to the gallon at 90 mph on the highway, the city not so great but the faster I go on the highway the better my mileage is so far no problems with the truck. I love it.
Brought my T new in 2004, 195k miles later, still shifts nice and runs strong.
LOVE my 2017 XD so much! It tows like a dream and is a comfy daily driver.
Really looking forward to the 2020 update. Would love to see the Android auto integration - that and the longer bed look pretty great haha
I'd love to see you guys take the trucks out in the snow.
I have a 2017 Titan SV 4x4 Crew Cab. I don’t care about the hate. I’ve got 60k miles (i know thats not much my old titan had 235k) but I really like it. Does everything I need it to do, bought brand new 32k out the door. Great truck.
good for you. too bad there is so much hate on these trucks. The truth is that almost all of owners of these trucks are very happy with their purchase. Why? because the guys in this channel, like so many others, don't talk about the long term ownership experience. Good value for the money. Very reliable. And most importantly, perform on par with the way most other truck owners in the 1/2 ton class use their trucks.
My 2016 Titan XD Cummins, just hit 3 years ownership last month. Oil and filters only performed. Issues=1, auto tailgate lock. Fix=1 zip tie and 15 minutes.
3920cruz Exactly. I play all the trucks on the market the same way. I struck gold on buying a Titan.
Nathan sounds less than enthused to be doing this video! Lol good luck with that boot!
Nathan, sorry to see the boot. Get Well Soon! Great review and I enjoyed the camera work!
There's a lot of good car channels on CZcams these days and this channel is right up there with the best of them..
I’m a Nissan fan, that said they’ll have to do more to be a true competitor to F150 & Ram. And these days, nobody buys premium fuel. And remind Roman this is a auto review channel. So a 4x4 truck needs to be tested otherwise viewers will go elsewhere to see it. Yea, seriously tell him that.
I work at a Nissan Dealership and clean and drive Titans all the time, I really like them.
cyanideZack lies I just came from the Nissan dealership and dude straight up told me they aren’t selling. Old tech and i test drove one switches gears horribly. Everything i complained about they knew about. This is a 2020 and they still don’t have wireless charger i can go on for days. Better start with 10 off that 50 fully loaded
To answer your question, nothing. I actually think this may be a do-over.
Look, maybe you guys have a spare $55,000 to $70,000 just lying around somewhere, but most of us don't. I want you guys to do another "El Cheapo Challenge." Base or work-truck trim level with a price tag of no higher than $37,500. I'm interested in knowing how much truck for the money can be had cheaply and who makes that truck! Ford, Ram, Chevy, GMC, Nissan and Toyota; all head-to-head! 🚚!
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Don't like all the chrome, especially the rims and mirror caps. Also, it really needs the Ford style tailgate step. I'm not sure about the tail lights since we haven't seen it yet at night, otherwise it is a pretty nice truck in my opinion. If it can beat Ford, RAM and Chevy on MPG I'm game for this truck.
Bought my Titan new in 2004, 200k miles and only about 1300 in repairs in 16 years, still haul my track car with it. Maybe someday I'll buy a new one, once mine has 300k miles.
Please do the MPG test with out towing anything
Titans are great trucks love the improvements of 2020 model should better in reliability.
A 2020 Titan vs 2019 Titan side by side and testing would be cool!
Have a titan xd with the cummins. love the truck, 0 issues. Got rid of my '18 f150 after recall #6. With issues out the a$$ with the "big 3" I don't think I'll buy a domestic again. Next truck is probably the new Tundra.
I love my XD PR Cummins.
The only only only only incredible truck on the planet honestly and faithfully..
Boss of trucks..
What to do? Gold hitch comparison, against all other half tons. With the others using their standard engines, along with their most powerful. In the mix make sure one from each manufacturer are as close as possible in the drivetrain specs. Using the highest capacity of the lowest V8 rating, that means a 5.0 Ford, 5.3 GM, 5.7 Ram, 5.7 Tundra, 5.6 Nissan of course. Or as close as possible you can get!
Nissan renewed the Titan and patrol as well in the same time but for Titan they change it from out and in side and you could call it a new generation. compared to Patrol which got just a facelift inside and outside.. the gear still the old one 7 speeds and the engine just accept premium to get 400 hp as V8 not talking about the V6 engine.
I wish that Patrol got the new gear with 9 speeds as Titan and also the ability to fill it up with premium to get the maximum hp or regular if I don't need all the power.
Thanks so much TFL team for the hard work keep it going 👍🏼
Nathan, I don't mind hard plastics at all. Soft materials don't last.
I ride with my arm up on the door too, but I also try to keep stuff well after it's paid for.
Soft touch stuff doesn't age well at all and it's not worth it to have a slightly more comfortable spot for my arm.
Nice looking truck sounds sweet and love the color. Like to see towing test with mileage for sure. Thanks for sharing Nathan and TFL. Hope you're able to get your hands on a Nissan Off-Roader so you can do cliffhanger 2.0.
Would love to a daily truck use.. how the tracks work in the bed, the general use of 4x4, real world mileage unloaded and loaded (payload). The towing is great, but not all of us use trucks for towing.
trcampbell74 I love mine. Go ahead
After researching I purchased a 2024 titan pro4x 5.6 litre drives really nice
I don't see the problem with getting more horsepower with premium gas. You can use regular with no problem, but get a boost by stepping up to premium.
Now if only they could put a 9 speed in the rest of their lineup....🤔
Those reliefs in the doors are so you can see the mirrors without having to put the mirrors high up on the body
I'd love to see that truck take on Rocky Top and the Ike Gauntlet. Pretty standard stuff, but it's always interesting to see.
Nevermind what Nissan hasn't published yet, what fuel mileage didn you get while testing it so far? Why wouldn't you include that in this video?
Can you find a relatively flat piece of hwy. Set the cruise control at 70mph, reset the fuel gauge, let it run 10-15 mile distance and give some MPG numbers please.
It honestly doesn’t look bad! Just don’t know if I’d choose it over a Ram or F-150. Looks great and I know that engine is great as well
My neighbor just dropped by on Christmas eve to show me their new 2019 Ford F-150 quad cab pickup with the eco-boost V6 and it's remarkable how similar these 2 trucks look -- right down to the full cab Panaramatic moon roof. She took me for a ride and I'm pretty sure the engine sound is piped in because it sounds like a V8 when she punched it. I do believe the interior is done a bit nicer and the running boards automatically pop out. The mirrors also illuminate for exiting which is a nice touch. Here's where things drastically diverge. The Ford is about $74,000.
Is it worth spending that much for a Ford?
To be honest, the pro 4x is the most attractive trim for the Titan, especially the red and sand storm color.
Overland trip with the titan.
I think the best way to test it is by just doing average truck things with a lot of daily driver stuff added in. Everyone knows that if you need to go hardcore truck stuff, that this is not the truck for you. However if you need a truck for occasional things where you simply need a truck bed or to tow a light trailer or off-roading, then this truck might be a contender. Try showing me why that warranty is important and how much value it could represent over a lot of the competition simply ending their warranties earlier. I usually don't see a lot of trucks from 15 years ago still on the road but I do still see a bunch of gen 1 Titans.
Awesome truck! I love my Titan and Armada
The front door windows are shaped so you have a below eyeliner mirror. Just like the Ford and a great feature.
Nathan still one of the best in biz for reviews.
Not a bad looking truck by no means..... definitely something to look at.
Recently traded in my 2006 Titan for a new Nissan Frontier. Would have liked to go with a new Titan, however, I refuse to buy a truck with a column shifter. I spoke with a Nissan rep who stated that is a very common complaint from potential customers.
Nathan, dont forget about the best part of the truck, which is the behind the seat storage. Ive never seen a reviewer mention it. Ive got my tool kits, tow rope, snow scraper, emergency shovel, tire compressor, fishing rod, and more all behind the seat and clutter free. No other brands offer that, as far as i know
Nice
I would love to see it pulling SXS or ATVs on a good modern trailer please and thank you guys by the way you are the best at what you do keep up the great content
I Own à 2017 SV Trim, CrewCab And love it, 56,000 Km on it and service the oil only at every 8000km. I pull a small RV trailer 18 foot, great truck for my need.
Great trucks, I have a 2nd gen titan, nicest truck I’ve ever had and I’ve had them all. Throw in the best warranty in the business and it’s the most underrated truck out there!
Nathan’s attempt at a snow boot! A single snow boot at that! 😂 4:47
Disappointed they got rid of the Cummins 5.3L ... To me, that truck was built like a heavy half ton but rode more like a truck with softer suspension. It filled a niche at a price point that was less expensive than anything offered by the other brands. Ultimately, I'd like a truck that can be used like a daily driver, but can occasionally tow a small compact track loader (about 7,000 lbs. excluding trailer weight) without straining. Reliability is also very important to me. I regularly put 300k on my vehicles before sending them down the road, and I want a vehicle that will last as long without mechanical issues. My current truck (2011 Tundra) isn't used for towing heavier items like my CTL, but I do tow about 3,500 - 4,000 lbs with it regularly (about 60 miles round trip to the races on friday nights). I have a little less than 250K on this one and it still runs great. Never had to replace anything but except normal wearing items (tires, brakes, battery, and the occasional headlamp/tail lights). Its hard to consider another brand given the track record I've had with the Toyotas I've owned over the years, but I would like to step up the towing capability with my next truck, and may lean toward a 3/4 ton vehicle this time around. Don't know which brand at this point, but I guess Nissan is out of the running without the Cummins.
I’d like to see the payload tested out! How’s she handle with a maxed out payload? Payload test, ride quality, then towing would be my top 3. I have an 18 that’s been on the road for 14 mouths and 20k miles. Love it except no apple car play or sun roof!
how come yall never talk about the solenoid tailgate locking system, with a bed cover it is remarkably handy.
I read that they not only changed the transmission but also the rear end gearing so the net result might not be much different in fuel economy.
I'll stick with my 2018 Nissan Frontier SV Kingcab 4x4. Bought it new in June of 2018. Been a great truck so far...Zero problems!
Having owned 2 first gen Titans, I would love to see an overall mpg rating as well as the feasability of DIY basic maintenace, front and rear diff , oil, transfer case etc. Love the channel guys👍.
Front diff?
Mr M 4x4s have a front diff
@@Bru946 yeah, hes implying he wants to see videos regarding basic maintenance like front and rear diff(lube changes) not gonna happen on this truck. Now if you're talking about a solid front axle then yes.
Curious, as I know nothing about these: That engine bay is short! Is that V8 mounted transversely. Can't tell thanks to the plastic engine toupe'.
Mr M Oh okay I gotcha. At first I was thinking you were questioning the front diff haha.
Great vid👍like to see load bed up with weight to see weather handling n better then last model, do thing Nissan should replace tailgate?more like RAM n Chevy. Did new Nissan Titan get better fuel mileage then older model?
GCWR Ike run please. Also do a MPG loop please.
This seams like a great value compared to the 70k F150s. Doesn't tow that much less than the 5.0s you guys have managed to run up the hill. (5.0 3.73 is one I am still begging you guys to test, but I know you are limited to the media fleet options.)
Interior looks better then gmc and Chevy Also a great looking exterior except those lights. Not like every other truck you see. 100k 5 year warranty out does all trucks. I'm a ram guy but this is better then most trucks and the price is nice.
The reason it has more power on premium fuel is because the computer can adjust the ignition timing on a higher octane fuel. Every vehicle is that way if its new enough it can change it’s own timing they just don’t say it
I want to see a different type of performance test. Take it to the track with a full payload and see how it accelerates with stuff in the bed from 0-55mph, which is average highway speed. And most importantly, test the breaks to see how long it takes to stop from 55-0.
Also see if the premium fuel makes a noticeable difference when towing on the IKE. Also turn radius test comparisons. Drag race comparisons too.
I think you should add this type of testing to your reviews.
Nissan is the GM of Japan, good product not great . Never fully follow through on their vehicles. They’re running Infiniti into the ground
No i would say Toyota is more like the GM of Japan. Functional but not revolutionary or flashy. IE GM still uses pushrod V8s in their trucks unlike Ford which has gone to turbo DOHC V6s. Just like Toyota which has stuck with naturally aspirated engines in all of their cars. They haven't gotten on the downsized turbo engine train. Some people seem to be confusing this comment as a criticism of GM. No I'm a Chevy guy 100%. Simplicity= reliability.
NPC1862862152-2 and cue the “archaic pushrod” bs.
Nothing wrong with a pushrod engine.
Anyone who’s had to deal with Pherd mod motors can attest to the unreliability of ohc engines
@@Name-kd5jj toyota has many different types of engines across the world, Usa is the only country that only gets naturally aspirated engines 😂
@@Welcometofacsistube I can't attest to an ohc engine being unreliable. I think ohc is easier to work with than ohv because if you need to remove the cam for some reason, boom pull the valve cover and the cam is right there. Ohv is easier when adjusting valve clearance, and it is far more compact. Ohv is also easier if there's a timing chain to replace, but then again ohc can be easier if there's a timing belt. It all depends on how the engine is designed. Some ohc engines are easy to get to everything, and some aren't. Some ohv engines are easy to get to everything, and some aren't. But I don't think either one is more or less reliable than the other.
Jacob Belcher 35 oh I do. This loooooong ass chains stretch, the amount of energy lost to rotate such a heavy mass and the complexity makes them more unreliable. Especially Pherd mod junk.
1st time truck buyer here, not really loyal to any brand as long as its not a ram
Like the v8 in the ford, don't like its aluminum
Love the looks of the Silverado, hate the interior
Toyota will last me forever, hate the gas mileage
Really like the looks of the 2020 pro4x titan .... downside? Havent seen one yet
The whole video I felt like you were sick or out of breath and hobbling around in a LOT of pain. I hope you feel better soon. Not a bad truck. And highway mileage testing unloaded is my main concern for daily drivers and road trips. Thanks.
Do a towing test with the MPG run if possible? I am a Ford Guy at heart, but this truck has striked an interest to me. Even the old body style back from 2004 is still a very nice looking truck. If I were to buy any other truck besides Ford, it would be this one! Nissan has done a great job with this truck! I like the design almost as much as the Ford and has me in a bind on which one to buy. Thanks for the review! Very nice honest content that's both informative yet also showing opinions on how things could and/or should be better. I've been subscribed to all of your channels for many years and enjoy the content you guys put out. Keep up the good work!
My 2017 SL 5 ltr Cummins has been outstanding. You might be right about the 6 speed Isen transmission. It's a little jerky. I describe the truck as a 5/8 ton and tow a 7.8K T.T. with ease and average 14 m.p.g. The Cummins tow package is what sold me. 650 ft. lbs. of torque and a 12000k gross tow capacity.
My new 2020 nissan titan shakes at speed between 65 and 72mph. I put 2 sets of new tires on this thing and it still shakes. I had to buy the tires because Bayou nissan where I bought the truck nor the nissan corpation would replace them. Even though the truck had sit on their lot for over a year and I was told by another nissan dealership the tires had flat spots. I was told by the dealership, the tires were not under warranty. I was told Nissan Customer care it was normal for the truck to shake at those speed. What a ridiculous response. Now, I see why their sales are declining and they stopped trying to sell trucks in Canada.
I’m not a fan of Nissan but the Titan has come a long way, I am mostly interested in the longevity of this truck. The older models tend to be riddled with problems. It definitely one of the best looking trucks on the market. I want these designs to transfer to the Frontier as well
I was never a fan of the Titan, but I like this updated one. Do the Ike Gauntlet. I would like to see how it compares to the 7 speed in terms of MPG and power.
Yes, nathan... If you can can you do a 0-60 time and 1/4 mile times as well as test it for ride and handling? The NISSAN TITAN FOR 2020 IS A HANDSOME TRUCK,Thanks nathan.
If I wasn’t upside down on my ranger I would definitely be interested in a 2020 pro 4x!
Nick Nadeau Sorry bro, but if your upside down on a ranger, you can’t afford this truck.
Jl Bush that’s why I said if I wasn’t upside down. Either way I’m loving the ranger! But if I had a choice I might lean towards the pro 4x
I had a 05 Titan . Loved it. But I will say I like this one much better than the last model gen 2. Frontier owner now, like it a lot. But struggling with the size. So this gen 3 Titan is my next truck.
Would like to see it pulling a camper at of 8000 lbs. will the trans search for gears. Hope it still comes with the 05 version tow mode.
Nice review Nathan! Nissan is making progress. It looks nicer inside and out (full disclosure, I like red trucks). Would love to see it on the TFL mpg loop with and without trailer towing. Also would love to see it on Ike testing. Maybe it was your mic/location but I was not impressed by the exhaust note.
Can you publish the off road numbers? Approach, departure, breakover, and RTI? Hopefully Roman will let you at least get the RTI since it doesn't require any off roading.
That under seat storage is also great for those elusive auto executives who want to stow away. Overall it looks like a decent truck
I'd love to know what kind of mileage it gets on a Japan to Lebanon trip.
It wouldn't make it. Renault merger destroyed nissan
aj l it’s not a merge Renault owns a portion of Nissan they’re not merged
How are you so blown away by the under seat storage in this truck? My 2007 Dodge Ram quad cab had this same set up, plus a compartment under it for additional storage.