TOP 10 DOG BREEDS FOR HOMESTEAD PROTECTION (FIXED)
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This video contains my list of the 10 best dog breeds for protecting a homestead. This includes a correction from my original posting of the video.
If you've watched the first post skip ahead to 15:30 to hear what I have to say about the #1 Homestead Protection dog.
Top 10 dog breeds for Homesteaders
You’ve outfitted your homestead with a garden, stockpiles of food, fortified windows, and the ultimate backyard BBQ area. Your kingdom is almost complete! There is only one thing missing: your four-legged friend!
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The first list was great.. Remember you can't and shouldn't please everyone... I clicked for the support not for the fix..
your right on tht but the boerboel should be on list and thts why it is lopk up the breed on google and turn the volume up all the way and siri will say how there one most powerful dog breeds and there most agile of alll mastiffs and there bred to be a working farm dog there name means farmers dog i own a boerboel and owned many other breeds my dog is a natural at gaurding and run through fields and I seen the way my dog moves hes faster then may cane corso and more agile then my great dane the breed is one of the best they should be known for there achivements and putting them on the list does just tht and its facts the boerboel is one of the best its not an oppinon its a fact
@@kirkmccabe6269 Agreed
He wasn't pleasing anyone, he stated b4 he was rushing to finish the list and forgot the Boerboel.
The first list was pretty terrible. This one is clearly better. Great channel regardless.
@ he only changed the number 1 spot! Lmao!!!
As a Young dude who wants to get a homestead farm property in the near future, I appreciate this list a lot
You will never get your desired property and you are not a dude, you fool!
There are far better homestead guard dogs that were built and breed for this specific purpose, this list was pretty poor. Don’t just believe someone on CZcams. Bulldog was by far the worst.
My top 10 and a few of their uses:
1. Anatolian Shepherd
Livestock GD, Personal Protection
743 PSI Bite Force
2. Dogo Argentino
Hunting, Personal Protection
500 PSI Bite Force
3. Belgian Malinois
Personal Protection, Herding
195 PSI Bite Force
4. Tibetan Mastiff
Livestock GD, Personal Protection, Cart Pulling
550 PSI Bite Force
5. Caucasian Shepherd
Livestock GD, Personal Protection
UNK PSI Bite Force
6. Rottweiler
Personal Protection, Herding, Hunting, Cart Pulling
328 PSI Bite Force
7. Rhodesian Ridgeback
Hunting, Personal Protection
224 PSI Bite Force
8. German Shepherd
Personal Protection, Herding
238 PSI Bite Force
9. Komondor
Livestock GD, Personal Protection
130 PSI Bite Force
10. Great Pyrenees
Livestock GD, Cart Pulling
500 PSI Bite Force
These working dogs are a lot healthier and better for a homestead life especially in a SHTF scenario. All of these working breed dogs can contribute way more individually than half of the breeds listed in this video and they have a high prey drive/high energy K-9’s. All of these are multi purpose/multi asset dogs; whether that be cart pulling, livestock guard dog, hunting, herding, personal Protection, or much more…
@@aravindseshadri455 he will while we deport you :D
@@mmareviewer.2372 You will be deported :D
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We have 2 Boerboels. They are amazing homestead dogs. Our big male chased off his first bear a few weeks back. It was a blessing to watch him actually do his job. Great video.
Do you trust your Boerboels around strangers (assuming they meet them). I'm leaning heavily towards this breed but as a home protector and loved on familly pet meant to protect my kids and I guess big old me too lol.
@@cryptojunkies3619 absolutely, proper introductions are crucial. We make it a point to make sure they hear or see us with strangers in a positive light. Check out breaking free off grid. They are nearly in every video.
your dog is no match for a full.grown bear don't let him killed
I have the Anatolian/Kangal 130lbs and a gentle giant. Her largest annoyance are turkey vultures .. any large bird really. I took her when the umpteenth owner just couldn't figure her out. No one knew what she was. She was a mess. I took her and learned her. She is wonderful. Just had to learn her breed and what sets her off. I've fallen in love with her. She'll never be abused again. ♡
Brilliant and informative as always. Great info + videography + knowledgeable respectful narrator + obvious love and respect for dogs ... Can't like this channel enough. Thanks man.
ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! NO CHIHUAHUAS??
My friend's brother's sister's Chihuahua killed 4 wolves a grizzly bear and a Boerboel all in the same day.😂
Great video!!! I think people forget that this is for the whole world not just their General location. Also this is your list.
GREAT VIDEO.
Thanks for the laugh! It was well needed.
IGOTAJOP America no one laughed
Chihuahuas are the embodiment of Satan's pent up anger
I did. Speak for yourself
@@thefoxoropeza7906 best description of a 'huahua I have ever heard!!! F'ing devildawgz! I have never met a sweet one with a calm temperament - if I did I would probably fall in love with it and bring it home... as long as it was not the kind with the popped out eyes, and if it has a normal skull and it looks pretty ... Oh, and if it has long hair...
Clicked for the support, not the fix. Keep doin what your doin main.
Zeke, thank you for the updated video. I agree the Boerboel is number 1 on this list. I enjoy the research you do with all of your videos and the truth and honesty you strive to give us. I have a 3-year old Boerboel. Wish I had known of this breed before as there will never be another breed for me. He is magnificent as well as everything you detailed. Thanks again. Keep up the excellent work!
A family friend has two Great Pyrenees, they wartch out for their sheep. They're great dogs.
I am new to your channel. I just wanted to tell you how much I have been enjoying the videos you are making. The dogs are amazing and the descriptions are very detailed. Thank you for sharing them. Ms Michal 🙃☕💖
Thanks for the updated list.
Another fantastic video! Thank you!
Totally happy with the TM as a house protector! Love the variety of dogs and explanation for the placements.
Great video, you have great insight into protection dogs, especially the bully breeds. Keep up the great work.
Bully breeds are terrible protection dogs. An 75lb shepherd will out work any bully
The original was really good, but I agree with including the Boerboel. The breed has earned it. I might of included the Central Asian Shepherd, but getting down to just ten is hard with so many capable breeds out there.
Great fix, completely got it right now! :oD Keep up the great content Zeke!
Zeke you did an awesome job on making this video I like your first edition of it just as much I was shocked like a lot of your other viewers that the Boerboel wasn't on there good edit but instead of editing I think you should have done an expansion version cuz 10 dogs of this category is a tough one to narrow down but I think you did an excellent job please keep up the good work you're kicking ass with the dogumentary TV I always enjoy watching your videos! 👍👍
It's great to see the Boerboel in what many people feel (me too) is it's rightful place on this list. Glad you decided to do an update to the list. I have been a Doberman guy my entire life and they are still my favorite breed but if I still had the energy I think the Boerboel would be the next breed I would own and work with. If people do some real research and check out some of the dogs from the country of origin (South Africa), they would be amazed at just how phenomenal these dogs truly are. I think in the US and perhaps some other parts of the world the image of the Boerboel has been the one of a big Bullmastiff, like in this video. The truth is that these dogs have very different looks and in South Africa it usually is determined on where the dogs are from and what type of work they may have some specialization in. Great job as usual.
Yes they are amazing. Dobermans are actually my favorite dog breed. But i have a 5 month old male boerboel. Very amazing dogs, under appreciated. they are the second best dog breed out there and are amazing companions.
@@ferrocor8668
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notsosilentmajority1 Boerboel’s are a truly outstanding breed of dog , I have owned bred showed weight pulled protection trained American pit bull terriers and touted them at the top of my list of some of the smartest and versatile dogs I have owned 20 plus yrs later a retirement from the Army and the need for a service dog and I was presented with s Boerboel and this dog has impressed me in every way , I would actually put it as number one and my apbt’s a close second as far as versatility.
Thank you this is super helpful!
Thank you for sharing
Excellent list..Boerboel #1 is my pick too..Zeke you nailed it 👌
Still a great list. Thank you so much for your hard work.
Love the Englush Mastiff my grandad used to breed em..not very fast.. but wow..amazing dogs..
Great video and great choices 👍
Thank you brother
Zeke love the updated video. Stay true keep up the great videos. Poeple of You Tube love them.
Very very interesting and important little detail bonus you gave us with the blood test that shows the dogs descended from the great Tibetan Mastiff! Much appreciated!
Thank you for information
I like these videos. Keep them coming,
Great video!
I was wondering how Boerboel wasn't on the list. Boerboel, Rottweiler, Alsatian are my personal top three.
Great selection!
Just an excellent channel. Very knowledgable Sir :-)
Great Dogumentary
Thanks for the info! I'm surprised you didn't include at least one small breed.
Great video . As a Boerboel owner and one Imported from South Africa , I will say that they are very versatile as well . Mine is my service dog and is one of the smartest dogs I have owned and I have owned many working dogs .
i have a Boerboel, i was wondering , when they kind of switch from puppy to adulthood? Mine is so playful, friendly, will they start to turn , into protectors?
@@FreeHumorLight yes he should. I also have a puppy and all he does is sleep and eat, he plays but not a lot, give your dog time they were bred to be protective
@@FreeHumorLight Give your dog love and their most important thing in life will be your safety. If he is by himself he will be protective earlier than living with older Boerboels. They will allow guests over. They will watch them and pay attention. They can be friendly to a guest if they know you accept the guest. They will always be alert even they don't look like it. I have owned Boerboels for about 20 years. Enjoy them.
My dogo is a top line homestead protector he’s 11 months and already protective as hell but so good with my kids and other dogs
Thanks for the list - now I’ve got some research to do... 🤓
Great video 👍👌
One thing I’d like to add to your video is the great pyrenees is that they have a dbl coat and shouldn’t be shaved as it will never come back the way it was originally.
Awesome video.
Love this 💙❤️💙
The first list was good but this one is better, I don't know if the order is significant because I have Cane Corso, Presa Canario, Fila Brasileiro and American Bulldogs
They are all absolutely amazing but the most human aggressive are definitely the Fila's although they are very loving with their owners
Yeah, image my dog food bill lol I have a some what large parcel of land to guard against many thieves and I also breed
American Bullys hoid fun..my fobie girly loves em only plsys with the biv hsndsome boys..she plays rough huge chest..shoulders n sss like a wrecking ball decks me in play often..Im 60 soon..ha ha but mum hsd a rottie till she was 80..its in the bloodlines in our family..never trust anyone scared of dogs ..🥳🥳🥳🥳😊
*Nowadays Zeek’s facing alot of useless criticism ... but i get the viewers too! It’s just their opinion*
Ragnar Lothbrok everyone is so sensitive about their favorite breeds! It’s just an opinion! And I’m saying that as a Boerboel owner who got my dog after first hearing about the breed on Zekes channel!! But Zeke is still the best dog channel on YT especially for bully breeds. Oh well more feedback is better especially on CZcams. 🐶
German shepherd is farm dog 🤪
Adnan their called keyboard experts.🙄
First of all, as always great video.
You could make a TOP 10 DOG BREEDS FOR HOMESTEAD PROTECTION video that went unnoticed.
That is, breeds that people who are not aware of dogs are generally not afraid.
Great list, the only change I would have made was adding the Leonberger.
Well done, as usual. 👏 I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. This is the BEST channel for dog breed info on YT. 🙌 Keep doing what you do, man. You can’t please everyone all the time, it just means your audience is expanding. 😉
Agree with this 100%
I KNEW IT ! I KNEW IT !! I Knew IT !!! . I’ve been saying for years that the Rottweiler must have been derived from the Black and Tan Tibetan Mastiff. All your videos are deliberately very carefully thoughtful and honest as possible . Even when you’re bias you state it ! Please keep bringing the real 👍🏽👍🏽
Makes sense to update your list
I like the idea of the Dogo thanks bro. Looking for something to mix with a chill cold weather dog like husky of course GSD too.but have it outside and friendly with who I have but keep unwanted out. Thanks man
great page and videos brother, thank you. Rottie owner...
Rottweiler is another I wish we could do a top 15 or 20. I don't mind longer videos.
My fate in Zeke is restored!! ;-)
No seriously, another great list for what the title says.
Yo, I know this video is old, but if you're considering Fila Brasileiro as your dog, please train and socialize them as hell , I've seem very experienced owners here in Brazil that, even with socializing, have reported them attacking visitors and sometimes family that don't usually visit, please be sure you can handle the breed! They are AMAZING dogs, but, just like malinois, for exemple, they are not for everyone!!
Socializing them from puppies is key in having the best dog ever!
Agree with your top pick; I'd point out that Ridgebacks, descended from largely the same stock as Boerboels, might belong on this list as well. They're fearless in the face of threats. They are bred to be larger than in the past, because they aren't used to bay big-game much anymore. All that said, they do have a downside, huge prey drive.
My grandpa had a Fila at his Homestead in Mexico, and that dog was no joke! He did not like me at all, but luckily, I was never attacked by him. He just posture aggressively towards me. The Doberman on the property, however really like me.
I am very happy with your picks, my picks still would of had a bullmastiff wich was breed for protecting the farm and catching the poachers they had to take down the dog and the man with a gun but love that you re picked number one as the boerboel love the vid..!!!
Boerboel comes from the Bullmastiff
@@truthdefrag i know but it has multiple beeds in its bloodline its a type of mastiff, which most breeds do have multiple, and i love boerboels there great protectors and a great breed.
Great P are top homestead dogs hands down. They thrive down here in texas where I stay, but with their coats and genetics they can survive HARSH cold temperatures outdoors
I have presa canario 5 months old and he is a giant; he eat everything ;)
Fila de são Miguel...one of the best i have everseen...i have dogo, cane corso and another one without a big breed....and y deal closely with german sheplardes and mastiffs.....but the fila de sao miguel is top the too ....very nice
Love dogs!
Fuller Boerboels was the featured dog. Beautiful.
I've had German Shepherds Rottweilers and Dobermans and pit bulls but I will not have a Boerboel I absolutely love the breed but that is one serious dog! but if I had more property no doubt it would be my number one dog to have.!!...
why you like the Boerboel?
I disagree with the GSD being high , but also amazing video :) I think the GSD and Cane Corso should switch , but amazing content 🙏🏼
And all is right with the world now. lol Great edit.
Most mastin breeds come from the tibetan mastin and are actually very similar one to the other (anatolian is very similar to kangal, which is very similar to caucasian and central asia mastin, and those are sometimes mistaken for tibetan mastin)
Same applies for shepherd (german, dutch, belgian malinois, collie, border collie, australian shepherd , etc).
Same with dogos and prey dogs like presa canario, great dane, dogo argentino, cane corso, etc (cane corso is actually in between a prey dogo and a mastiff breed).
Be guided by generalities and then go for speciphics on the breed and then for the speciphic traits of each individual dog.
Awesome selection of dog breeds for this video! Hats off to you! From my research and actual observation of several dog breeds, I suggest that if you are living in an area where large carnivores have recently entered, such as California, where cougars and wolves have made inroads, do consider having any of the livestock guardian dog (LGD) breeds as protection. LGDs are passively aggressive, will not actively engage in a combat, but will deter a carnivore from becoming a threat. However, if you are living in a homestead where bad people are a problem, do consider one of the non-LGD breeds well covered here. I apologize if this post causes any inconvenience. Please let me know and I will delete it.
nice video,in my opinion presa and kangal are the best
Love big dogs but I can't afford to feed them so I got a border collie she eats very little but she does job she's awesome love dogs
There is a story* about a dog named Mochioco ( not sure of spelling), a Dogo Argentino who protected his two girls from a mountain cat. Mountain Cat got dead; Machocco(?, i dunno, i took another stab at spelling it), lost an eye, but his girls were safe!
*On CZcams.
Could you make another video on the American Akita and tips for socializing a dominant breed? Thanks 👍👍
Akita's are dogs that will not protect you and have no intimidating factor. To weak also. No one wants a video ont hem
@@ThePyrazHD my akita will protect me so that's false
@@ThePyrazHD You no nothing!
I used to have a Akita. From the first time the dog saw he, he bonded with me and me only. No one else could touch him, not even my husband.. Even as a 10 year old puppy, he wouldn't let anybody touch him. He would grow. No one could come to close to me without him growling and or bitting. It was not good. He attacked my husband three times. When I had him neutered, the vet tech couldn't get him out of the cage. I had to go back there and get him out. He was all tails wags when he saw me. We have a house on 1 acre, fully fenced. At the end of our lot, my Akita would viciously bark at the kids waiting for the school bus. It was just a matter of time before he attacked a person and I would held liable. So I had to do what I had to do. It was really sad. But I still like the breed. That my dog was just "One of those dogs"
@@monkeysign123 Thank you for your story and I'm sorry to hear how it ended. I feel a lot of people who get an Akita dont understand how intense they can be if not socialized very early which is why it would be good for Zeke to do a video on it. 👍
I was surprised Rottweiler wasn't on your list. Love the channel.
Hes a cattle dog
Rottweiler’s are more a farm herding breed not particularly a protection breed. Plus their not a very intelligent breed so make poor protection dogs.
@@matty6848 what are talking about? Your the first person I have encountered that thinks that
I would really appreciate if we can have a videos on golden retrieve plz
I wonder how well the American Akita would do as a home protector - I’m guessing pretty good but would love to hear other opinions
I woud love to heare your appinion on the alarm dogs aka the yappy ones...(shih tzu..
Calling it now. BOERBOEL
I always enjoy your lists, but I wonder why the Spanish Mastiff is often disregarded on these kinds of rankings.
i wish i can get one boerboel😥 thanks for the video
They are amazing dogs. I have a 5 month old male and will definitely get another in the future.
I've seen a lot of comments about people wanting boerboels(on other videos too). I'm not against you getting a Boerboel but you must know what you're doing, these dogs are not for first time owners and if not raised right you're gonna have a big problem on your hands. They need A LOT of socialization and they are very dominant and territorial so they don't do good with dogs they were not raised with and other dominant breeds. They are naturally protective, so even if they are socialized you must watch them around people they don't know
Do any of these dog pose a problem for first time dog owners on a home stead ? Such as little kids ? Or turning ?
Having just lost my dog I’m preparing for my future after I get a homestead or travel nomadic for a while, though this will be without my Chloe. I’ve always favored breeds bred to protect and I have an appreciation for the Cane Corso and the Dogo Argentino, as the area I plan to relocate to does have a boar problem. I loved the Fila but with my limited time experience I know I can’t handle one. But the breeds I’m considering are the American Bulldog, Cane Corso, Dogo Argentino, the Kangal and the Boerboel. I just don’t know who I want to select, maybe some of each as they’ll all have plenty of room and stimulation and for the Kangal they’ll be occupied.
What did you get?.. For a homestead or farm with lots of land w/boar, the Cane Corso is great and is very trainable and personal protector. The Dogo, Presa, Kengal/Anatolian, Boerbol are good too for that situation.
Hey Deke, try this, it's easier ...(bra•sill•YAIR•roe) / (bra•sill•yeh'•roh) / (bra•sill•yeah'•rho)... one less syllable and it sounds very close to the Spanish way. Though I have spell the pronunciation different ways as I don't know what system you are used to but I've tried to write them in the ways of common and familiar words. Each of the spellings and marks of these pronunciations sound exactly the same, with bra as a minor accented syllable and sill barely there at all, yeah has the strongest pronunciation and roe is almost as inconsequential as sill and definitely less so than bra, so that it might be spelled " feel-a-bra-ssəl-yerroh"
I would maybe add the Spanish Alamo
Good video
Bouvier Des Flanders. Bred as a farm dog. Smart, dog friendly, 100 lbs, don’t shed, loves kids, and when they need to step up they will without the killer instinct that many of the dogs you have on this list have, which will get you sued. Bouviers often overlooked. I like that don’t want them to get popular with stupid owners
For my situation with cold continental winters my top 5 would be:
1. Alabai - central Asian shepherd
2. Kangal
3. Sharplaninac
4. German shepherd
5. Great Pyrenees
German Shepherd and Doberman is My Favourite Dog
Man my 1 year old workingline german shepherd just died. Blue green algae . He was trained on sleeve and next phase would have been bite suit. He was smart, loyal and biddable. He would sleep at my feet and follow me all day long
That german shepherd you showed herding the flock is the real stuff... Which we see often in our childhood... Not the show types seen today.
Nothing like seeing an actual REAL functional German Shepherd, the intelligence and elegance is unmatched. Shame what they are doing to the breed.
What is the gold standard for e training collars for large breed dogs?
Love my Presa!!!
Can you imagine if somebody did a really good comparison documentary where these breeds were put to the test in head to head competition ? That would probably get millions of views for a long time to come. Pulling tests, biting tests, willingness to engage both human and animal intruders, willingness to co-exist with people and livestock, survival in the widest range of climates and conditions, grooming and cleaning requirements, loud or quiet, speed, efficiency as an expense , overall health profile, intelligence, trainability and hunting and retrieving specialties could be some categories. There is no one dog breed that would finish first in all those categories of course but it would give an indication of good choices for somebody's specific requirements.
A white coat can help differentiate your LSG dog from a predator....which is useful if the owner is going to neutralize the predator.
From the research I have done, many people with large property and flocks to guard will have a more velcro Livestock Guardian breed for up close and they will have Anatolians or Kangals for the outer range of the flock; they will go seek out high places and watch, and range the outer reaches of your flock and your property. They were range more in the daytime and this action will keep animals away, your ranging Guardians following scents wherever they may go and taking care of business if they come upon something that needs taken care of.
It is very strategic to do this, because wolves can be very tricky - they will send a female in heat to guide your dog away and if the Anatolian or Kangal goes after it, whether a female chasing it off or a male looking to mate, there needs to be other dogs, yes plural, in close, that stay with the herd/flock to protect it from the wolves that will come in force as a pack as soon as that Anatolian or Kangal is gone.
Now, as to the Pyrenees, they seem to be able to work out the twist themselves to work certain areas and if you have enough dogs of this breed on your property they will pair up and patrol during the day, ranging about to keep the critters away. And in case you did not know this about the Pyrenees they are like the Tibetan Mastiff, they are nocturnal. Yes, that means they are awake at night and may like to sound off to let you know, just like the old town criers once did... "It's 9, (10, and 11, and 12...) o'clock, and alll isss we-elll !"
Good show good good show
glad you're in inches and pounds no conversion needed .
Can you make top 10 most territorial dogs
so this list was edited just to include the boerboel and not just imclude it but have it at number 1??? i couldnt agree more!!!
Could you please do a video of Carolina Dogs? Otherwise known as Pariah dogs or American dingo or Dixie dingo or yeller dog or a yellow dog. They're the America's only wild dog bread and they're like no other dog I've had! This is the breed used in the movie "Old Yeller", hence the nick name. It's a shame they're not as popular, because they are great dogs! Unlike Australia'd Dingos, the Carolina Dog I'd domesticated, for the most part. Thanks for all your videos. We lost my Amstaff Reno about two years ago and it broke our hearts. We went to the pound are found our CD Odie. Thanks for reading this. You Rock!
All nation have their pariah dog
Old yeller was a black mouth cur.
@@Mahishya007 you're absolutely right! But I'm only going off of current wild dogs native to the US.
@@mayqueen7525, thanks for letting me know. Most of the Carolina Dog websites stated that, so I actually believed it.
I think Great pyrenees would be perfect and more available than the other top 5. But they don't intimidating enough. Which other dog from this list can they be paired off. I'm thinking 1 male Pyrenees and 2 other females. Your opinion??
I just started the video, and fully expected the Great Pyrenees to be in the top 3. The quintessential livestock guardians, suited to all kinds of weather conditions, have some natural herding instinct, don't suffer the same wanderlust as things like Huskies, the list goes on. Disappointing that they aren't recognized, I'd be curious to know what his reasoning is.
Edit: My bad; I see them at number 5. Not high enough, in my opinion, but at least they're on the list.
I feed her so good. She's on 20 acres and she gained 7 pounds in the first year I had her
It cool
Neutral on a few on your list. I think this should be separated in two or three categories: Rural Home Guardian Dog, Barnyard (Structures) Guardian Dog, and Livestock Guardian Dog. I like the Cane Corso and Boerboel however they are more of either a Barnyard (Structures) Guardian Dog and Rural Home Guardian Dog, the Boerboel is a velcro type dog. Kangals and Maremmas may be considered second to none, with different types of Livestock, as Livestock Guardian Dogs. I've been associated with German Shepherds and Doberman Pinschers and prefer the Dobe by far... they are great with livestock too.