Crushing World Records & Narrowing The Gender Gap w/ Camille Herron | Rich Roll Podcast
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- World record-setting ultrarunner Camille Herron on mindset & training, getting faster as we age, the power of joy, narrowing the gender gap, and more.To read more about Camille and peruse the full show notes, go heređđŸbit.ly/richroll689
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:01 - Badwater/Western States Training
00:05:34 - Jackpot 100 Mile World Record, Mainstream Media Exposure, and Health Issues
00:12:24 - Growing up in Oklahoma, Father and Grandfather Basketball Players, Golf was Her First Sport
00:21:11 - Broke Record of Youngest to Pass 100,000 Miles / Attention to Detail
00:22:19 - Winning Comrades + 21 Marathons / Retirement thoughts / Moving to break World Records
00:24:17 - Bringing 10 Years of Marathon Running Experience (and Speed) to Trail Running
00:25:22 - Training Runs are Between 18-22 Miles
00:26:32 - Still Crossing 100 Miles a Week
00:27:58 - Training Details
00:29:38 - Track and Field Approach to Tempo Training
00:31:09 - Heart Rate Monitor / Max Heart Rate
00:33:58 - Getting Stronger with Age / Feeling in Her Prime
00:36:28 - Racing at 75% of Max Heart Rate
00:38:16 - Trails as New Terrain to Conquer
00:40:23 - Strength Training for Stability on Trails
00:41:55 - Internal Effort / Confidence to Hold Back Early in Race
00:42:43 - Gender Gap / Women Excelling Versus Men in Ultrarunning
00:45:42 - Commercial Break
00:47:34 - Blood Work Creating Focus on Nutrition
00:50:53 - Unusual High Ferritin Levels for Camille
00:52:44 - Special diet
00:56:31 - Calorie Fueling / Electrolyte Process During Races
00:57:29 - Quitting Alcoholic Beer Because of High Iron
00:58:23 - Recovery Details
01:00:49 - Coros Watch for Tracking Deep Sleep
01:01:59 - Epsom Salt Baths for Recovery / NormaTech Recovery Boots
01:02:58 - Being Married to Your Coach, Challenges, Work
01:05:02 - Camilleâs Intuition vs. Sticking to Training Regimen
01:07:14 - Numbers Person: Spreadsheets for Tracking Mileage
01:08:34 - Mindset / Channeling Training at 75% Effort Into Races
01:09:53 - Mantras for Intense Moments
01:10:39 - Animal Mentality (Lion)
01:11:35 - Happy Disposition in Ultrarunners
01:12:55 - Drawing Strength and Positivity from Parents Overcoming Health Issues
01:13:43 - Losing Home to a Tornado
01:16:56 - Recently Moved Back to Oklahoma
01:17:56 - Training at Mt. Scott in Oklahoma for Western States
01:19:19 - Western States Training Camp
01:20:11 - What are Weaknesses as a Runner
01:22:37 - Racing Without a Pacer to Stay in Own Headspace
01:23:34 - Longer Term Goals
01:24:50 - Wanting to do Badwater
01:29:19 - Tapping Into Extra Energy Inside
01:30:26 - Advanced Flow State
01:32:53 - Still Getting Better at Age 40, Dialing in Factors to Optimize
01:33:46 - Making a Living as a Professional Athlete at Age 40
01:35:21 - Previous Job in Research at University of Oklahoma
01:36:21 - Coaching with Her Husband, Started a Coaching Business
01:37:47 - Common Mistakes Seen in Other Athletes
01:38:15 - Strava Culture Making Training Too Competitive
01:41:39 - Back to Back Long Runs too Stressful
01:42:29 - Diversity in Ultrarunning
01:43:52 - Comrades Community Being Diverse, Global, Inclusive
01:44:38 - Black Trail Runners + Native American trail runners
01:45:33 - Parting Words for Beginning Trail Running
01:48:09 - How do You Think You're So Happy?
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I'm running an ultra in every state. I saw her at Tunnel Hill 100 in Illinois. She's amazing!
Wow! You're amazing too.
Her energy is so contagious.. As a fellow 40 year old, it's great to see other 40 year olds with so much positivity and life. Plus, holy cow... a 7m30s mile for 100 miles..... Unreal. She's an absolute animal.
A lion, to be precise
i liked the interview, and i like how Rich has very good questions so that it opens doors for good information to come out. Not everyone responds in detail and deep meaningful ways but still very good questions. I learn a lot, took lots of notes. Even if everyone is unique and needs to find his own way, his own nutrition & training = hearing other people stories is inspiring.
I resonate with her about go easy on training because it is also very easy to destroy the body, get injured. And injuries can take lots of time to recover. I am happy i got out of the mentality of no pain, no gain, push as hard as possible to prove you are strong. etc.
love your interviews Rich ! thank you!
I have mad respect for these kinds of athletes. I do not care what they have between their legs. I am forty pounds down, with thirty more to go. I started training in the pool, hopefully for, my first half marathon next year. Great talk, Rich and Camille. Keep kicking ass, inspiring others with your accomplishments and stories... One Love!
Hell to the yea!!! I dropped a good amount of weight three years ago and I can't imagine not exploring the trails on foot anymore! Godspeed on your journey friend!
She came to our small town years ago and ran our half marathon. All the runners in our town follow her closely and are huge fans. đ„ł
I am a massive rich roll fan for his ability to interview people exceptionally well - i've found rich always has the ability to have intriguing and interesting conversations with people, really getting them to expand and elaborate in a fantastic way. he's great at asking the right questions and then giving space for the answer.
this podcast was a tough listen for me. rich pulled out all the stops (i looooved the observation he made on successful ultra runners seeming to often be joyful and happy and grateful people). Camille just didn't know how to have a conversation of substance and it felt like such a laundry list of what she does and who she is. The conversation lacked the usual depth and thought provoking vibe it usually has. Camille is so good at what she does. I've been following her journey for some time as a hobbyist trail runner who's done a single ultra...She clearly became the best by being so honed in but i feel like the convo missed out on her elaborating on anything beyond that.
I still look forward to following Camille for her incredible talent - she is so inspiring to me. Similarly, I am excited to continue listening to rich's podcast moving forward. Even though this conversation didn't leave me as fulfilled as ones of past, i still learned a lot. I'd like to close by saying that Camilles dedication to her craft is insanely inspiring and I walked away feeling impressed and motivated by her ability to be so locked in on one thing. She is one of a kind for sure!
I donât run, I never heard of HOKA, but this positive energy coming from this person makes me want to run,and I did look up what HOKA makes. She should just be sponsored by the sport of running in general as a cheer leader. Plus I thought she was 30, so was confused when Rich kept mentioning masters. Refreshing attitude.
I love her confidence, enthusiasm, and the way she approaches all aspects of life. Beautiful, smart, athletic, and crushing the ultra scene. I'm a big Fast Times fan and her accent and mannerisms remind me of a female Jeff Spicoli.
What a great interview! I'm such a fan of Camille. Watching her crush it and watching her be a great human being. Thanks!!
I could only imagine the onset muscle soreness after such a great feat of running
I just did a half marathon and my calves are decommissioned for a couple days
Some people just shine. The energy is soo high
First off im exhausted after listening to this show. Secondly, how come you didnât wrestle her daily diet out of her Rich from morning to night? She was clearly dodging the question numerous times. Super talented she is for sure.
Camille is a true savage!!! Enjoyed watching her at States and looking forward to hearing the rest of this episode.
Over stimulation! Wow! I have never experienced being so overwhelmed by such energy? Kudos to her accomplishments!
I am a big Camille Herron fan. Camille is very intelligent and well-read. I suspect she was reluctant to discuss diet because she is aware of the potentially triggering effects of discussing diet, when eating disorders are a major issue in women's running.
What an amazing athlete. Woke up in the middle of the night with this in my headphones and was amazed at what I was hearing. Great interview and thanks for making me aware of her and her accomplishments.
Joy in running! Joy in my new favorite accent! Good luck with your iron and GET IT GIRL! Thank you for being a living reminder of how strong a positive woman can be. đ
Huge fan of Camille. Love to watch her run! (try to channel her joy when I run.)
Camille is the best! Thank you for another great Pod Cast! I've been following her for a long time and I've been looking forward to this pod cast since I heard that Rich interviewed her.
Amazing person. What an inspiration. Great interview Rich Thanks
What a bright light of a soul!!! Thank you Rich for introducing us to her!!
Great interview. Amazing athlete! I like the idea of going after the ultra triple crown, Western States, UTMB and Comrades.
Bursting with positivity. Good listen.
She is a badass woman & a wonderful human.
What a great interview, Camille is such a nice person :)
She's such a great person & runner!!!
What an inspiration!
I am very curious about the â root cause protocol â because if there is a mineral imbalance with low magnesium it must be fixed somehow in addition to a positive mindset - so I would like to get some more details on how she did that đ
She makes it sound easy !đđđȘđȘđȘ
Amazing to run around 3hr 12min marathon pace for 4 consecutive marathons.
this girl is a wonder â€ïžđđ»đŻ
Absolutely awesome female athlete đđđđđ
RunCamille!
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I love Camille as a runner and her smile is contagious, but I was disappointed that at least the first 30 min of the podcast showed a lack of humility. Compare that to the pod with Courtney being one of my all time fave RRPâs and I was really hoping to feel inspired in the same way.
I like the bearded look Rich đ
Gotta agree with some of the other folks here. Rich; fantastic structure and questioning, but I left feeling put-off Camille. She couldnât really share a weakness, and in her effort to share a single piece of advice for her fellow runners, managed only to discuss her more of her own accomplishments.
Itâd be a long day in the office if she was around. Sorry Camille but âme, me, meâ can get tiring, not inspiring.
She avoids talking about her diet specifically? why
most top performance athletes say it is unique for everyone and they build a certain diet by trials and error. i came to agree with that. every person is unique and responds differently to same foods and quantities.
Probably because she doesn't want to be criticized for eating food.
I know she isn't vegan so maybe that's why she avoided talking about it, not sure.
How many times did she say âyeah â???? đđđ
Did she ever say what mineral drops she takes? Maybe I missed it..... I have tried one and the flavor it horrible!
I take Trace Mineral Drops. It's definitely not the best taste, but I've gotten used to it! I've found the epsom salt baths (2 cups in a typical hot bath) has really helped to bump up my magnesium the most.
7:37min/mi for 100 miles?! Paint me religious, there are gods and goddesses among us.
This was tough podcast. I learned nearly nothing on this auto-biography (it wasn't an exchange of ideas, it was hearing the accomplishments of one person with no connection to anyone). I'm sure she's a nice person but this made no sense. I made it to just over an hour on this one and had to stop because it was just too painful, knowing I have things to do. Rich Roll - you owe me an hour of my life back by finding a better conversation.
I felt the same. Rich was asking insightful questions but compared to his other interviews, the responses he received did not go deep.
Entirely agree. I made it to the painful end, and Rich was a superstar; Camille remained self-centered.
I could only make it 20 minutes.
Wow, hoping some of her energy rubs off on you deadbeats! Jeeperz!
@@kaybee7173 Not this one I'm afraid. He's spoken with many others who have inspired me, but this interview was sub par for his superb level of making someone's accomplishments interesting, as well as motivating.
Oy!
She's such a lovely person â€
Whatâs Conradâs lol
The Comrades Marathon is the oldest, most competitive, and most lucrative ultra in the world. It has incredible history behind the event and brings together the best ultrarunners in the world- including the African ultrarunners. At one time Nelson Mandela would fly in to be at the finish for the winners. I'm the third American to win the event.
I didn't watch the whole thing. Is she plant-based? Does she get heme-iron? I wonder if that is her issue. she didn't seem to want to get into the details and just mentioned nuts apart from some supplements....
If you Google around in print interviews sheâs said she eats anything and everything⊠subway, Taco Bell⊠lots of meat⊠itâd be great to know if her nutritionist modified any of that but zero details were given other than itâs a âweird dietâ
Narrowing the gender gap? đđ WTF???