Legends of the Dead is stupid | Crusader Kings DLC

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Komentáře • 121

  • @RobinMontag-di1pe
    @RobinMontag-di1pe Před 5 měsíci +39

    why are you crying? just crack it, you simpleton

  • @Mattilainen45
    @Mattilainen45 Před 5 měsíci +80

    Liked for not meat riding paradox

  • @mindseye1790
    @mindseye1790 Před 5 měsíci +60

    It really says everything when the standout feature of your dlc is a big plague that kills off all of your overbuffed characters.

    • @user-vf9ri2xq4i
      @user-vf9ri2xq4i Před 5 měsíci

      "I WANT REALISM"
      "WAIT YOU ADDED SOMETHING THAT KILLED MILLIONS AND IT KILLED MY CHARACTER THAT I DID EUGENICS TO GET I HATE REALISM"

    • @dylanroemmele906
      @dylanroemmele906 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Me when most people like to Roleplay and not minmax

    • @user-vf9ri2xq4i
      @user-vf9ri2xq4i Před 5 měsíci +21

      @@dylanroemmele906 Fr did my guy just complain that one of the most deadly viruses ever was op?

  • @AHersheyHere
    @AHersheyHere Před 5 měsíci +108

    $20 for an AI story generator.

    • @cuff1626
      @cuff1626 Před 5 měsíci +5

      CK3 is about making your own stories. They text doesn't have any flavour to avoid saying stuff not in line with the player headcannon

    • @hipoxis
      @hipoxis Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@cuff1626 actually the flavor in the text is instead custom based on your character's personalities so you'll get slightly different event texts depending on your character.

    • @Medievalneckbeard
      @Medievalneckbeard Před 5 měsíci +6

      I don't understand the concept of legend mechanics. Why does the character come up with his own legend? wouldn't it be more logical if the legend appeared regardless of the player's decisions, and only then the descendants could mystify it for their own purposes? Why are legends so short-lived? Historically, different “legends” were supported by different social strata such as trouvères, minnesingers, court poets, clergy, notaries and others. The very concept of legends of legitimacy could be a good help for depicting the formation of the administrative apparatus in medieval kingdoms, but no.

    • @Bannermann
      @Bannermann Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly what I thought.

    • @ComradeCorwin
      @ComradeCorwin Před 2 měsíci

      I wish. Not a super lover of AI technology being shoehorned into our daily lives everywhere, but I recognize it can still be more creative than this. If it is AI generated, they put that chatbot on a very short and repetitive leash.

  • @tuxtitan780
    @tuxtitan780 Před 5 měsíci +47

    In my opinion, the content is great, but the price is insane. I love the dlc, but the price is blatantly ridiculous. I always recommend people buy paradox dlcs, but to wait until theyre on sale

    • @alecshockowitz8385
      @alecshockowitz8385 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I like ck3, but the price of DLC is absurd. I really feel that the games want and need to model out characters ate a shit ton of the budget for the game.

    • @TheOneEyedMac
      @TheOneEyedMac Před 5 měsíci

      Or, you know, use other alternatives to get the dlc....

    • @damienzht
      @damienzht Před 5 měsíci

      or go to instant gaming

    • @revilokid
      @revilokid Před 5 měsíci

      @@TheOneEyedMac 😶‍🌫️

    • @dantereinhardt6911
      @dantereinhardt6911 Před 5 měsíci +2

      The main reason the DLC prices are so absurd is because you aren't paying just for the DLC, you are also paying for the 'free' updates. Because the teams that work on those aren't paid with thoughts and prayers, they need money, and that money comes exclusively from the DLC. So when you buy the DLC, you aren't only paying for the DLC's content, you are paying so Paradox knows it should keep maintaining CK3 and improving on it.

  • @Cream127
    @Cream127 Před 5 měsíci +21

    CK2 once again, winning and handled bloodlines better.

    • @thetrolluminati9714
      @thetrolluminati9714 Před 5 měsíci +2

      People don't want bloodlines "because it's broken".

    • @lephinor2458
      @lephinor2458 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Yet they try making OP characters through genetics.

  • @jackochainsaw
    @jackochainsaw Před 5 měsíci +8

    I've started playing with this DLC but have noticed that if you are not in the zone that has plenty of seeds already, the seeds you do get are very generic. A lot of people play in Europe, but I'm kind of bored of Europe. I play Africa, the Middle East, India, Tibet, the Steppes. All those regions feel a fair degree blander than Europe. I will be unpopular but with this Chapter 3, Roads To Power is essentially a massive fan pleaser/Byzantophile pack. If you aren't a big lover of Byzantium, you aren't going to get half as much out of that pack. I had hoped that they would perhaps continue doing flavour packs but spreading them out. We could really do with some for Africa, India, Tibet and The Steppes. They don't have to do struggles every time either.
    In this pack, it is very easy to remain at max Legitimacy which does a lot for you. In addition, you can stack legends pretty high (although they are expensive). The plagues are annoying for their development burnoff but at least its an uncontrollable obstacle to progress.
    If you get mythical legends and follow the new dynasty legacy for legends, they are OP. Depending on the type of mythical legend, you can do some insane things and cut down the curve on map painting. The danger with this game from what I can see is stat-stacking. I sometimes hate the balances that Paradox make to nerf them as well. It's a bit of a "paradox" ding ding.
    I am going to work on my own mod for Crete and the Minoan culture, and this DLC does add some extra useful things for it. Especially with the Legend seed. So I think there is benefit to it. Also, it does give Royal Court a bit more function by adding legitimacy every time you hold court. Another benefit is that the court positions (for a small portion of those said positions) have been expanded slightly to do some more useful activities. Does that add up to $20 well spent (or in my case £16.75). I'm not sure. I could probably have bought a discounted game in a sale that would have been more value than this DLC for sure. I think this DLC was worth half of what Paradox charged. I wouldn't say it is a bad one though. Just average. In combination with other mechanics it could be amazing in future.

  • @Taskicore
    @Taskicore Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'm a big fan of the "critiquing strategy games from inside my garage" vibe you have going.

  • @mymejojo2
    @mymejojo2 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I watched this video and then it led me down to almost everything else you've posted. They were all very fun to watch, good work

  • @TheChamp_YT
    @TheChamp_YT Před 5 měsíci +2

    A stocking stuffer dlc is such a perfect way of describing it.

  • @junn805
    @junn805 Před 5 měsíci +21

    i would say tours and tournaments was the best dlc by far. but saying 'best'is pushing it. the travel events are so less and after a few journeys all the events become predictable and repetitive.
    so far all dlcs are overpriced and raw as hell

  • @milsugione
    @milsugione Před 5 měsíci +12

    the only way i could enjoy ck3 was with agot mod, have close to 800hours in it, now i have to wait a month for compatch oof

  • @Beorthere
    @Beorthere Před 5 měsíci +8

    Welsh and Anglo-Saxons have the Arthur Legends btw. But yeah, I get you.

  • @eddieosorio2435
    @eddieosorio2435 Před 5 měsíci +41

    Lmao been pirating every dlc for years and couldn't be happier. Love this game! 😂

    • @patrikrendulic3223
      @patrikrendulic3223 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Me to bro

    • @syncprime987
      @syncprime987 Před 5 měsíci

      help a brother out , how does one pirate dlcs ?

    • @user-nk8zx1yw8s
      @user-nk8zx1yw8s Před 5 měsíci

      @@syncprime987 don’t know about DLCs specifically but you can find a lot of info on r/piratedgames, look at their list of trusted sites dont download shit thats not listed there.

    • @Weiswolfe
      @Weiswolfe Před 5 měsíci

      same, i had legit stellaris and legit ck3, but every missing piece, yoooink

    • @footballman271
      @footballman271 Před 5 měsíci

      ⁠ make sure to click on where it says steam games, look up crusader kings, and just scroll the forums

  • @THEpoppaSAUCE
    @THEpoppaSAUCE Před 5 měsíci +2

    From what I’ve noticed, it takes preexisting legends (or you can start your own) and insert yourself into the legends. And it doesn’t care if you actually did these things, it’s what the protagonist in the legend did, and then you can make yourself the protagonist of the legend. And add other stuff to it that you DID do, and it gives you buffs and claims and whatnot. Like making yourself the protagonist of the King Arthur legend gives you claims on all the titles on the British isles

  • @FantiniBlake
    @FantiniBlake Před 5 měsíci

    I love the jacket. Also, I had imagined the legends would be built upon in-game decisions made previous.

  • @OneFinalAutumn
    @OneFinalAutumn Před 4 měsíci

    One thing about the legitimacy thing is that it's a bitch to build if you don't have the DLC. There are a hundred different ways to lose legitimacy, but you're screwed if you want to rise through the levels without shilling $20.

  • @thesittingtraveller3467
    @thesittingtraveller3467 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The legends mechanic is literally this: czcams.com/video/uKeKuaJ4nlw/video.html

  • @tombkingsethbattlechannel9419
    @tombkingsethbattlechannel9419 Před 5 měsíci +16

    Tbh i stopped playing and buying Paradox games entirely because everygame that they release is only the bare minimum, stripped of any interesting game mechaniks, only serving as a platform to sell u DLC´s later. Worst example for me is still Imperator Rome and with City Skylines II it reached it peak so far.

    • @globalfreaking
      @globalfreaking Před 5 měsíci +1

      CS:2 was made by Colossal Order and published by Paradox.

    • @tombkingsethbattlechannel9419
      @tombkingsethbattlechannel9419 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@globalfreakingi know, but with paradox as publisher its the same business concept in my eyes.

    • @ap6480
      @ap6480 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Paradox does hide a lot of content behind dlcs but games like EU4 definetly don't just have the "bare minimum" of mechanics, you can still enjoy those games without dlcs, especially taking into account the insane amount of mods there are for Paradox games, which Paradox supports more than most companies. Yes, Paradox has a huge issue with hiding content behind payed dlcs, but let's not be dishonest about the quality of most of the vanilla games.

    • @hieratics
      @hieratics Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@ap6480 the vanilla games are unplayable, you must have some dlcs to have a decent experience

    • @VereorNoxxxx
      @VereorNoxxxx Před 5 měsíci +1

      Then you haven't played CK3, they put lots of stuff in the free updates and only leave the most niche mechanics behind a paywall. Royal Court, legends, grand activities, struggles, I like them all but they're not as important all the things they added for free.

  • @noragrey7016
    @noragrey7016 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I wanted to like the DLC, but it seems so shallow with barely any content. And i am a huge CK fan usually ....

  • @turnopsverdsen9578
    @turnopsverdsen9578 Před 5 měsíci +9

    2:49
    The second I saw this screen I knew I would not buy it. "Heasteinn was born to a great Gothic lineage to rule 'EMPIRE OF HISPANIA' as his forefathers would have"... They couldn't even be bothered to spell-check it to say 'The' kingdom of whatever, and there's no situation in which that would be right. Unbelievably lazy. They literally had one page to write for this entire DLC and they fucked up the first sentence.

  • @davefekete7187
    @davefekete7187 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I hate the legitimacy, i love playing as a count then forging myself a tiny kingdom but this mechanic makes it way harder then it as to be but my main problem is how easily i lose it all even when i'm winning all my fights anyway i gained 400 Lgt from my legend seed while on a crusade but we ended up losing the crusade, i only lost 2 major fights and lost all of my legitimacy, that is the biggest load of crap ive seen in this game. Another thing that bothers me is that when you have low lgt you get a -50 opinion because of low fame plus more similar annoying debuffs, i just wish they revamp the whole system behind this legitimacy because it has potential but not like this, oh no.

  • @user-qf9ox2jt3b
    @user-qf9ox2jt3b Před 5 měsíci +3

    Ok, free update is really cool. I can’t imagine playing without legitimacy or plagues ever again. But this legends stuff…it’s ok for 5-10$, but 20$ is just crazy

    • @VereorNoxxxx
      @VereorNoxxxx Před 5 měsíci +1

      The 20$ is what pays for legitimacy and plagues, they're giving you half of the expansion for free and only leaving the most niche mechanics behind a paywall

  • @rudeboy212
    @rudeboy212 Před 4 měsíci

    Legitimacy is a good mechanic for early and mid game, but when you reach the end game and your empire is made of half of europe then it becomes very clear that the only way to keep legitimacy up is to have the legends of the dead dlc, since every time a plague hits your empire (which at the end game is every single month) you lose 100 legitimacy, it is literally impossible to keep it up without the dlc.
    PS: it almost feels like they gave legitimacy for free so you would have to buy the dlc to keep it up

  • @tylerfennell5920
    @tylerfennell5920 Před 5 měsíci

    Also the legends cost so much to do and to promote the rate it spreads adds another 12 gold per month cost. The only buffs you get from it are ones that are worse than those available in events, both random and planned. I.e. a little % boost to piety from a legend vs just going on a pilgrimage. The big payoff is supposed to be the legendary buildings but you can’t even choose where it goes. You holding onto a shitty county just because you have an extra domain slot and want the extra 2 gold. Well now you’re forced to put a legendary palace there and you’re either forced to build that county up or ignore it. If my main domains are the duchies of Leon and Galicia why would I want it the palace in the one holding I have in Mallorca? I could see how giving complete control of its placement could cause balancing issues but complete randomness is worse. The buffs aren’t even that crazy anyways.

    • @tylerfennell5920
      @tylerfennell5920 Před 5 měsíci

      I do like how one of the seeds allows you to instantly shift a kingdom to be de jure part of yours. But that’s not worth $20 and little Timmy could make a mod for that in a weekend

  • @iltizioerrante7239
    @iltizioerrante7239 Před 5 měsíci

    I don't know what they were thinking about when creating the legends mechanic, they basically added propaganda campaign for your ruler

  • @Logan4201
    @Logan4201 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Bro is upset that what we now view as “history”, was viewed as legends back in the medieval age…🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
    Listen, I have my fair share of problems with Paradox games, yet this entire video just came off as a jaded mischaracterization of this DLC and Paradox as a whole…

    • @Medievalneckbeard
      @Medievalneckbeard Před 5 měsíci

      “historical” legends do not contain any references to historical events. The HRE emperors proved their Roman heritage by committing italienzug, not by killing a fucking dragon. belonging to the family of King Arthur would be relevant for the Welsh, but for the English the courtly image of Arthur from the chivalric Romances is more relevant. Medieval people were not stupid; they had an idea of ​​the historical past, although they thought of it in a symbolic and eschatological sense. Moreover, legends appear spontaneously, they are invented by people around the character, and not by the character himself. The legend about the legacy of Charlemagne can be a legend not about Charlemagne, but about the player, if the player has proven through his actions that he is descended from Charlemagne... not through killing a fucking dragon.

    • @Logan4201
      @Logan4201 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Medievalneckbeard Whoever said that legends were purely fantastical stories with dragons and witches??

    • @Medievalneckbeard
      @Medievalneckbeard Před 5 měsíci

      @@Logan4201 because that's how they are in the game. Your character simply decides to come up with a cool story for himself and somehow tie it to a legitimizing historical event. The way legends like "The Roman Legacy" or "The Descendants of Charlemagne" are structured have no reference to historical or symbolic precedent. Another example is the “Přemyslid legacy”, a character from the Přemyslid dynasty...must prove that he is from the Přemyslid dynasty. “brilliant”, no really. This is a cosmic level of stupidity. The player simply lives through a couple of events and the hero of the legend supposedly performs some actions (in fact, no) and this has nothing to do with this legacy. Ideally, the developers needed to separate individual legends and historical legacies with events that referenced specific historical precedents through which the rulers of these historical legacies secured their power. Stop meat riding a multibillion corporation, dude

    • @Logan4201
      @Logan4201 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Medievalneckbeard Ok so if the problem is that the legends aren’t specific enough to the individual character then that’s a different thing lol.
      Nice essay though, yet I honestly don’t care to continue this pointless discussion about some stupid youtuber’s opinion.
      Also, ending with saying I’m “meat riding” paradox bc I don’t believe the legend system is “an abysmal excuse for a dlc” is definitely an opinion in today’s gaining climate… yet ig $20 cosmetics are more your thing??

    • @Medievalneckbeard
      @Medievalneckbeard Před 5 měsíci

      @@Logan4201 Oh yes, let's justify the crude, lazy and unhistorical DLC for a historical strategy, since the developers had previously released cosmetic packs, and now they have condescended to give us a pack of events. It's like enjoying a rotten piece of bread because you were previously fed shit. You are pathetic

  • @mystic4576
    @mystic4576 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This dlc is worth like 5$ at most

  • @LunaMoon0
    @LunaMoon0 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm so scared that they portray landless characters really badly

  • @chanegun
    @chanegun Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video bro

  • @Astroexx
    @Astroexx Před 5 měsíci

    The dlcs for me are new mechanics for the modders to use. From one dlc you can get like 3 great mods (I usually run around 100 mods) but I don't really see any potential in this legends dlc, no idea how any modder could use this one so for me its just not worth it

  • @dmainayar
    @dmainayar Před 5 měsíci +1

    Lotta yapping about the cost considering it's the price of lunch

    • @dungeonman.fromyoutube
      @dungeonman.fromyoutube  Před 5 měsíci

      We can't all be eating lobster bisque on the riviera like you david

    • @dmainayar
      @dmainayar Před 5 měsíci

      @@dungeonman.fromyoutube lobster bisque on the riviera for $20? Sounds like a steal

    • @Sherlokplatypws
      @Sherlokplatypws Před 5 měsíci

      k, I eat lunch for like 3 bucks but ydy

  • @LunaMoon0
    @LunaMoon0 Před 5 měsíci

    I have to be honest. I hate the new legitimacy system. I had expected more

  • @user-vf9ri2xq4i
    @user-vf9ri2xq4i Před 5 měsíci

    There is actually a prester john thing and also the slaying dragons lol
    Edit: I really agree with the plagues i like those wish console had those which they dont because lab42 is really shitty

  • @Notphenix
    @Notphenix Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like legitimacy and plagues but legends are bad

  • @karlstainer9958
    @karlstainer9958 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Use RICE mod from creator of VIET. It's really great.

  • @flamethekid
    @flamethekid Před 5 měsíci

    while the pricing is a bit much, this is actually a thing in real life, life in general is mundane and we as humans just dramatize things and a large part of this DLC is for roleplay.
    if you play to do map painting with the META strats, then the dlc is skip.
    if you play for roleplay wait for a discount.

    • @Medievalneckbeard
      @Medievalneckbeard Před 5 měsíci

      he literally says why legends are such crap. They do not reflect the events happening to the character, they have nothing to do with history and are very indirectly related to the perception of history by medieval authors. This is not a roleplay mechanic, this is another way to get more buffs and development points.

  • @Doosteroni
    @Doosteroni Před 5 měsíci +2

    I mean I can understand the criticism but like 20$? Thats not a lot...

    • @su1t0n11
      @su1t0n11 Před 5 měsíci +5

      for a dlc this bad? It is

    • @raed1642
      @raed1642 Před 5 měsíci +1

      It ramps up, EU4 is like +200 dubloons for the game and dlcs, if you think it's sensible for games to be priced that much then map painting induced autism is the least of your problems

  • @FurrLapse
    @FurrLapse Před 5 měsíci

    This is great

  • @TerrorZelle
    @TerrorZelle Před 5 měsíci

    I think its fine and worth 20$.

  • @hantorfolezproductions4402
    @hantorfolezproductions4402 Před 5 měsíci

    @2:47 was that legend generated by AI? It seriously reads like it was generated by a free LLM

    • @dungeonman.fromyoutube
      @dungeonman.fromyoutube  Před 5 měsíci +2

      I don't think so - they included an "AI generated content disclosure" on the steam page, but it only mentions art assets. Might as well have been though

  • @Kevinopn
    @Kevinopn Před 4 měsíci

    Legends of the dead is basically a cheat god for conquering all your neighbors... I hate that DLC SO MUCH i stopped playing CkIII...

  • @jalapeno84_25
    @jalapeno84_25 Před 5 měsíci

    And the Venerated Dynastic member trait which you gain if you have the Dynastic Legacy and complete a Mythic or Holy Legend, doesn't actually give you ANY trait lmao. Broke DLC

  • @Tom-mk7nd
    @Tom-mk7nd Před 5 měsíci +24

    Your comment about the price is really old and comical. Spending 20 dollars a year on a game if it keeps getting better and better is not really an issue. Some people spend much more in a year on Netflix. It's their money, their choice.

    • @ap6480
      @ap6480 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Saying that "There are people who spend more paying for Netflix" is such a cliche way of diverting attention to the problem that I thought most people would've dropped it by now but apparently nope. Also, it doesn't make sense for you to say "It's their money, their choice" since he's criticizing Paradox and not the customers and saying that dlcs are overpriced for their quality definetly is some valid criticism, if you're fine with paying 20 dollars every year for ck3 dlcs then that's great but that isn't really a counter argument for anything he said.
      Overall great nothing burger👍

    • @khoroatos
      @khoroatos Před 5 měsíci +1

      Calling a statement "old" doesn't adress its validity, neither does the greedy industry practice of baiting gullible consumers into giving out cash somehow justify incrimental game mechanics packaged as "downloadable content"

    • @Tom-mk7nd
      @Tom-mk7nd Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ap6480 but is it really overpriced? I'm saying it's an old comment because people seem to be stuck in the 2010s. If you look at the current market, the price are reasonable even if at the higher end. Paradox are doing well but they also have to pay a workforce based in Sweden, working on developing the game across a couple of years. You have to factor that in too.

    • @Arcaryon
      @Arcaryon Před 5 měsíci

      ⁠@@Tom-mk7nd The problem here is that they are, imo., supposed to deliver interesting mechanics. Estates in EUIV for example are great.
      Meanwhile, legends of the dead feels like… Meh. It’s not bad but it’s just not a real banger because the stuff they released for free is so much better and to put this into perspective, for 20$ I can buy entire other games that offer actually varied content.

    • @Tom-mk7nd
      @Tom-mk7nd Před 5 měsíci

      @@Arcaryon the real banger will be landless gameplay. Legends of the Dead is the appetiser.

  • @Magnus14535
    @Magnus14535 Před 5 měsíci

    Me who has it pirated with all dlcs

  • @sebastianreyes8042
    @sebastianreyes8042 Před 5 měsíci

    okey the dlc pays the patch and the patch added a lot with plagues. If people dont buy the dlc we will not get patches like that. its like a package.

  • @jansenjunaedi4926
    @jansenjunaedi4926 Před 5 měsíci

    It's not undercook, but this DLC concept is already a problem since ck2. Which is why I'm skipping it.

  • @borginburkes1819
    @borginburkes1819 Před 5 měsíci

    Crusader Kings 2 will always be the better game

  • @wkf97
    @wkf97 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You are wrong.

  • @shodan2002
    @shodan2002 Před 5 měsíci

    Garbage dlcs so far could have gotten complete games for that

  • @bountyhunterswag3937
    @bountyhunterswag3937 Před 5 měsíci

    I concur

  • @quinnemann
    @quinnemann Před 5 měsíci +1

    Last