@@kingbjorn1832 well he is an idiot who doesn’t know what he is talking about he never won a WSM never did anything isn’t even an a athlete just a fat guy who drinks beer yeah I think I’ll keep deadlifting
@@JoeyCentral LMAO Just because he didn't win WSM his advice is worthless? He's at least the second strongest Man in U.S and the strongest Man in West U.S. managed to reach the semifinals in 2017, wtf are you talking about. Stfu. You sound so butt hurt bc he told you the truth probably.
@@kingbjorn1832 nah he is stupid and doesn’t know what he is talking about. Deadlifting is king of testing strength. Robert is just a shitty deadlifter so he makes up bullshit to cope how bad he sucks at it. He never won a WSM and that is why I think he is just a fat guy that drinks beer. Meanwhile people like me train like athletes and want to get real strong. So we should do cleans instead? That is proof he has no clue what he is talking about. I am betting money I’m stronger than he is already and I’m 100% natty
@@JoeyCentral you do realize he’s talking about traditional deads right? There’s no reason to do em outside of oly and power lifting/ wsm. Bc like he said risk vs reward isn’t there. That’s why you see the huge influx in sumo deads, and even trap bar deads. Trap bar you can get all the benefits without any of the dangerous injuries that might be prone to traditional.
I pulled my back out doing dead lifts when I first started working out 4 years ago. My back is not the same. I have back problems every day. In my opinion. I would say don't go to heavy. Pick a comfortable weight. Theres nothing to prove. The after affect of messing your back up is no joke. Your back will never be the same
@@tj_calisthenic1919 green leafy foods make your bones stronger. Your bones are probably brital and weak so pulling that weight in other areas were ok but your spine couldn't handle it . you cant outtrain a bad diet
D R somebody was listening, yes the guy says “that’s Arnold’s show”. Meaning Arnold shwarstenaeger, i butchered the spelling but I’m sure he has copyrights on his show that would kill joe rogans podcast.
@@MsAlimajeed well, if I recall correctly, it's more that Renly looked like Young Robert but chose to spend his time being a courtly prince playing dress up, reading poetry, and doing falconry, while Young Robert spent his time *being a warrior* ... All three Baratheon brothers were "slim" in their prime, but it's more like Renly was slim and effeminate, Stannis was slim and hungry, Young Robert was slim and ripped. Robert was a ferociously strong fighter; his warhammer didn't just kill Rhaegar at the Trident, it caved in the dude's whole breastplate... I very much doubt Renly could have even weilded Robert's hammer, let alone smash freakin' armor inside-out with it
@@flexinriffs9926 yeah the problem is when people see strongmen deadlifting more than 3x their bodyweight and think that the equation works backwards, so they're 200lb and think that they can deadlift 600lb.
I've done bodybuilding and power lifting my entire life, one day I did deadlifts not even that heavy as usually I would go to about 500lbs, this time I had like half that weight. The following night I woke up with a disc in my nerve and muscle tissue, somehow my deadlift fucked my entire lower back and I didn't feel anything until hours later. I was brought to the hospital and couldn't walk for months, had to teach myself again. To this day, I can barely workout, barely walk, barely do anything.
Deads used to be my best life. I was early 20s and just warming up. Did 315 warming up . Picked it up and tweaked my back. I didn't rack the weights I just left cause I knew I'd get tight. 5 minute car ride home and I had to crawl out the car. Dead are the only thing that gave me injuries. I'm 36 now. I still do deads. But I'll go to chiropractor and stretch and get massages regularly. I do 225 easy. Sometimes 275. I don't need to do 500 for reps. Noones paying me to do it. Used to tweak my back once every year or two.
I say to people when I am at the gym stop looking in the mirror and saying how shit you look because there are always someone out there who will say that for you and want to bring you down with their comments. Well here you are with your people only wear singlets to show off, no one is stopping you wearing singlets or is it you are ashamed of yourself. So do swimmers wear their costumes to look good, you need to stop being jealous of what others are doing and go and do something for yourself.
@@shshdajajjsusuebw8902 Robert's net worth is only 400k ... He's fine, but not rich by any means. He's an athlete in an underrated sport with no money.
I recommend watching The History Channel's, "The Strongest Man in History", with Robert, Brian Shaw, Eddie Hall and Nick Best. Chances are you've already seen it, but for anyone who hasn't, it's such a fun show and the guys have fun messing with each other. Very brotherly. Only one season but oh well.
My low back is trashed. I stopped doing deadlifts with a straight bar 25 years ago. I recently started doing deadlifts with a hex bar. Lower weight, high reps. It makes my back feel great every time I do it.
595 competition deadlift in college. 181 & 198. Flash forward 48 years old… the ONLY injury I don;t have is low back. Heavy Good mornings & deadlifting were the best time I ever invested.
No again as he said there is a reason real athletes dont do them. They are super dangerous for the gains u get when u can get the same gains with other less risky weight training.
Thabestevah not dangerous at all properly done...much rather do a heavy DL than a heavy squat. Further there are countless real athletes that deadlift....I’m not talking about maxing.
@@33moneyball but why do it when u can do other things that don't put your back in jeopardy of you slip up on form slightly. I would never try to max deadlift bc i like my back too much and can do other things to work those muscle groups. Like he said it just seems like an unneccasary risk to take from a reward isk perspective
@@Krystalmyth “I always recommend using a good belt. Of course its also great to not use a belt to strengthen your core but *I always make sure to use a belt to make sure my lower back doesn’t get injured* . A lot of people were surprised that *I never got any back problems in my whole career* . And I never have, never, ever any back problems. I believe its *because of the right technique* , deadlifting correctly.” - *Thor, current world record holder for the deadlift*
What is to be gained by deadlifting? There's other things to build legs, rows and pulldowns build the back. I've never felt the need to deadlift in my life and I'm happy with my physique, don't feel it's lacking in any department.
@@animal0mother Joe never seems to question people he likes when they say something silly. The only logical explanation I can think of is that you'd have to inherently use less weight doing a power clean
I used to deadlift 425 for reps of 12; nice, slow, controlled form. Never had a day of back pain in my life. Strong core and glutes = injury free. Then some lady rear ended me with her car and now I’m fucked. Blows
It's kind of disheartening how there's so much conflicting advice in the realms of exercise and nutritional science; you could ask ten different experts and they would give you ten different lines of advice on what to eat and how best to work out. I know it's hard to come up with conclusive studies in those fields based on the nature of the problem but it'd be nice if there were some kind of authoritative source that you could look up and get a universally agreed upon answer to any health or fitness related question that you might have.
I think the best thing to do is to just try out a bunch of different techniques yourself and see which one gets you the best results and just take what all these so called experts say with a grain of salt
It's just about finding the right resources, and looking in the right places. Instagram nutritionists/coaches will generally always give you misinformation because they're just trying to sell a product. Dive into the research to verify what you learn. And always be suspicious of taking anecdotal evidence to heart - like advice that you shouldn't deadlift.
I admire these strong men and their abilities. I used to lift weights and wanted to get strong. I did get strong but only strong relative to the average man. This Gus and guys like him are true strong men! It is unbelievable the weight he can lift. This requires a genetic advantage but also a lot of work to get so strong. These giant strong men often seem to be really nice and polite. I guess when you can kick the crap out of an elephant you don’t need go around acting tough and dominant.
@@jaymiddleton1782 I just can't think of any natural reason you'd ever be in the Deadlift position, speaking from 10 years working in removals and demolition. Squating to lift something heavy is the way to go. And yes, I do have a curved spine, even in a neutral position my back is "cat like", unfortunately.
@@grubbybum3614 I beg to differ, anytime you pick up something heavy off the floor it's basically a deadlift. Like when I do manual labor and I have to pick up heavy or multiple bags of concrete or sand off the floor, that is basically a deadlift. If you were a farmer and had to pick up a heavy stone to remove it from your field, that would be a deadlift too, so I find it natural actually as long as you're not just doing super heavy weights or focusing too much on that exercise
Patricio Ansaldi lol wut? When you pick heavy shit up, you get under it, you don’t grab a bar, grabbing regular heavy stuff is way closer to just regular squat. Stop acting like you have any idea what you are talking about
i listened to this dude and have been feeling much better. was getting some bad hip pain from having to lower the bar slowly (downstairs neighbors). now i have a hex bar with bumper plates and it's so much better. instead of getting pain in my hips when i lower it slowly i just feel nice activation in the hamstrings. feels like it's working the muscles i want to build rather than just building up my spinal erectors and making me all stiff.
I took time off from lifting and all through my 30s I injured myself trying to lift close to my athletic peak. Eventually I just started lifting with the bar and I started to feel amazing. I don’t even care what I lift anymore. I’ll just keep slowing adding weights and feel amazing. I wish someone taught me that when I was young.
I’m with you guys. I’ve been weak my whole life and started lifting two years ago and just started with the bar, slowing adding weight. Agreed… it’s not about how much weight you lift but how you lift it and the weight only goes up once you need more to stay on your desired rep range
@@DC-bx8ww I did progressive lifting didn't lift a bar alone from 1st day, deadlifted upto 350 lbs peak, but most of the time I lifted upto 270 lbs only, I am doing all that on a natural diet, not even supplements, never even put a strap on my waist, the key was to lift for fitness and not gains, it was always to get small burn and than thats all, the ones doing heavy lifting end up like Ronnie Coleman, it's stupid how PPL lift so much weight only to regret later in their lives, they're not even athletes on top of that.
People, this man isn’t telling us to not do deadlifts. What he’s saying is that the risk factor is high, especially if you’re doing heavy weight. That’s why athletes like to stay away from it. To safely deadlift, always make sure your form is good, and only lift what you feel is comfortable/achievable with proper form.
Yeah, yet he claims that power cleans are somehow safer than a deadlift. With that sentence all his credibility went out of the window for me personally.
Dude ...... That was he was SAYING - "PROPER FORM IS REALLY HARD", THE RISK AND REWARD ISNT WORTH IT. So find a replacement to Deadlifts insted. Like Farm Walk that works.
@@dmitri2366 bro, what? hes one of the world strongest men who literally lift weights for a living, how does he lose credibility lmao..... to answer your comment power cleans are safer than deadlifts because deadlifts use both your back and legs at the same time, cleans should preserve your back angle while your knees extend. therefore less likely to cause injury to your lower back. and guess what, i know nothing of lifting weights, all it took was a quick google search, which is what you shouldve done before saying "With that sentence all his credibility went out of the window for me personally."
@@Alvah707 I dont think you understand what a power clean is. The problem with a quick Google search is that the information that you find might be incorrect. We are not only talking about the lower back but overall risk of injury. There is no way that a deadlift is mechanically safer than a power clean as it is basically a deadlift and front squat COMBINED. During the lift off you still roughly use the SAME movement pattern and muscles as during a deadlift. Not even to mention that you have to be explosive during a power clean and cannot pace yourself to focus on form like you can in the deadlift. And youre telling me there is some how more risk of injury in a much simpler movement? There are so many contradicting opinions in this industry and a lot of athletes just follow their coaches advice. Experts constantly disagree with eachother. So no disrespect to this individual but what he said simply is not correct.
The first time i smoked it i could see a million silver back gorrillas playing the saxophone on the walls... it was fuckin crazy man... jamie pull up that video about the coyote eating the woman's dog in burbank
I tried deadlifting when I first started to lift and I never got comfortable with it. I stopped soon after and I've still managed to get pretty okay back gains while keeping my back healthy 👌🏼
A lot of people who get hurt deadlifting try to lift near their one rep max. It’s insane how much progress I’ve made just by adding deadlifts to my workout routine. I spent a long time making sure I have proper form and I mean so far so good. 🤷🏼♂️ Exercise advice is all over the place
Idk man we only have 1 spine. If I can get those same benefits from other exercises then why risk it? Every guy Ive seen that has quit the gym has been because they either got lazy or injured their back deadlifting heavy.
The best weightlifting advice I’ve ever gotten, regardless of the specific exercises themselves, is to utilize good form, have a good coach, and control your ego.
Ik. This is such an uneducated thing for someone with his influence to say. Annoys tf outta me Bc 5 million people might have this mindset on one of the if not the most function exercise you can do
@Chris Seymour this guy is 6’7” 400+ pounds pretty sure the rock is never going to be bigger than him. And there is nothing soft about this absolute unit the rock is not even close. Abs and definition aren’t a sign of power or strength, their a sign of extreme dieting and dedication (also steroids in the rocks case). This guy would bear hug the rock and snap his spine like a twig
@@PVWNSVCR1F1C3 That makes sense. But there are times they don't because I think Jamie is very busy working behind the scenes making sure everything is working.
Does It Right Son yea but when they used to do that the visual aspect was much better. It’s almost like it needs a 2nd upload website so they can get around copyright bs as CZcams sees it
Could it be that strongmen live and die by their deadlift?? Naw, it clearly has to be a bad movement, think nothing of the people talking trash about it
@@StallionFernando Powerlifters and strongmen do have a higher body fat percentage than that of a bodybuilder, but dont mistake it for obesity, these dudes are strong as fuck, imagine how strong your core will have to be to pick 1000 pounds off the floor, they train solely for strength and probably capable of crushing your head with his bare hands 😂
I injured my lower back twice. Once lifting my father off the ground after he had fallen and the first time I ever did heavy deadlifts. This is what Robert is talking about. In both situations I didn't lift properly, in the first I didn't even have the strength to do it at all. I then began watching tutorials daily and checking back constantly to make sure I was performing the lift properly. Lifted for about four years after that, with the deadlift being one of my core strength building exercises. Never once had another issue again, because I was doing them correctly. Robert's advice shouldn't be "don't perform deadlifts.". It should be, "don't perform deadlifts if you're not serious about mastering correct form and performance of this exercise.". Granted, he is right, most people, like myself in the beginning, probably won't. But if one is going to learn to safely and properly do the deadlift, then it is actually quite bad advice to advise against "ever" doing it. It's a natural lifting movement that humans have been performing for millennia. It works several key muscle groups and can be great for building beast like power when lifting heavy and correctly.
I dont do squats or deadlifts tho. It takes only one repetition and even professional bodybuilders get injuries and back surgery even more than normal people. If youre not a pro bodybuilder then theres no point fing you back like that. since I stopped performing them I stopped haviong low back pains and feel much better. If you do gym for hyperthrophy then theres really no gain to it imo
@@ricardodelacrvz1400 It boosts your testosterone and stimulates the CNS to adapt and make you stronger, it can contribute to strength in your other lifts indirectly. It's a great foundational strength exercise. It's all about maintaining correct form.
You can do proper form for 30 days straight but all it takes is just 1 day you feel tired & you perform an improper rep & destroy your back. Way too dangerous
@@martinjohnson4796 So long as you contract your lats properly, push your chest out and drive through your heels you won't have a problem. Ironically if you're ensuring your form is correct you won't be able to lift it if you're tired and you let it go. A rounded back can actually enable you to lift a weight more easily but it's more dangerous. When I started deadlifting at 21 I went up to 230kg in a few weeks and my form on that 1RM was horrible. I look back and thank God I didn't do my back in but I was young I guess.
It's not worth it tho. Yea maybe it's a great workout but it doesn't matter how u much master ur technique, just one slip up and ur back is done for life.
@@MaHan05 usually I don't have problems after deadlifting... Maybe it was just a bad day. Tbf the training was a bit longer than usual, on the deadlifts I didn't even go as heavy as I go most of the time. Maybe I did to much barbell rows along with it....
@@siberianTiger639 hopefully you didn't do the rows before deadlifts.. that would be stupid as hell. You don't want to exhaust your upper back muscles before you do deadlifts.
@@bez1196 I did. Just didn't think too much about it. I guess I won't do it again... Not because of the upper back though, the lower part is the problem.
Been doing deadlifts for a while and it’s been so beneficial to my back and core. Haven’t had any back pain since doing deadlifts regularly. But I started with really low weight till I got my technique proper, and slowly but surely worked my way up.
Same. I hate this appeal to authority bullshit "well hes a strongman so he knows what he's talking about" Meanwhile there are many thousands of people who regularly deadlift and whose lives are better for it
you can injure your spine with a tiny amount of weight lifted incorrectly for a split second. You don't know wtf you're talking about. @@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom
I enjoy dead-lifts because of the raw visceral feeling of lifting heavy weight from the floor, but after talking to my chiropractor about the long-term effects on the spine I am a bit more apprehensive. I now take a more thoughtful approach to lifting and have also incorporated some mat Pilates workouts which I highly recommend since it trains your body in ranges of motion we tend to neglect. You may laugh but your 65+ year old self will thank you one day. Also I'm also surprised no one brings up Ronnie Coleman and the toll heavy lifting did to his body. It's truly sad.
No need to laugh at recovering your body for the long term let ego go stop caring about what others think just do whats best for you stretching pilates and yoga will make your lifting better.
@@jayz6008 yeah but none of us are pushing the weight Ronnie is, he was moving heavy ass weight for years and that took a toll on him. I think we’re fine, unless you plan on being competition ready like Ronnie
Watch him on the Off The Ranch channel too. They're the ones that do all of his merchandise and he's featured on there quite a bit. Oberst is an awesome dude.
I think I blocked this guy playing high school football in Santa Cruz. Edit: Yes, I definitely did. I was a center, he was a nose. He planted me in a puddle and I almost drown... I'm all good now.
Just reading these comments - just throwing it out there - how good is Joe at facilitating these interviews. He listens and allows the interviewee to actual tell their story
@Suffer No Fools maybe cuz Alex Jones is only interesting as a meme and isnt very popular other than that. I'm tired of people crying about how victimized they are
@@nathanbruce1992 totally agree, alex jones is a total fucking buffoon aswell. issue is is while yes everyone, even straight white males, want to be victims. everyone. if you can take away alex's platform, you can take away anybodys platform.
Yeah. Its unfortunate. Robert has always had great potential and his (especially pressing) strength is insane but he's always dropped the ball at competitions. I've always been a fan of his but he can't ever seem to bring it all together when it matters. And if you watch the podcast he just did with Brian he's stated that he's retired now.
The Russian strongman he talked about that was in the Russian special forces is Mikhail Shivlyakov. He's a beast, but also a gentle giant. He's known for both his friendliness and humility, and also bleeding out of his nose on super-heavy deadlifts.
I used to frontsquat almost 2xbw beltless and deadlift over 2xbw beltless, my clean technique was aproved by coach as pretty good, until I injoured my back trying to catch powerclean lower than usual, at about paralel, since that my lower back discs are totaly unpredictable, sometimes I can deadlift or frontsquat but mostly warmup or lighter weights injoures my again, i cant stand longer than few minutes to immense pain, cant bend freely to put on shoes, cant do fast movements. Trying to catch powerclean low was my worst gym decision, never had such problems from any other exercise before
I think the problem to address here is that, based on your description, you were attempting to perform a power clean and due to either fatigue or too much weight, you compromised and did a full squat clean with the intent to perform a power clean. Your mind is intending to perform one motor pattern (power clean) and had to respond with a full clean. This, does expose you to risk of injury. Hope you have a speedy recover.
How are you doing now? Have you looked into Stuart McGill's work and rehabbing that way? The inconsistency and symptoms sounds like a classic disc injury where sometimes you are totally symptom-free and other times you were standing or sitting and get flared up. You may have to back off one load moving well 24/7, perfect spine hygiene, build up your core and then gradually reintroduce load.
I have nothing in common with this dude and yet I enjoyed this little interview and think he's be pleasant to be around. Joe you've really mastered the interview format.
He is correct, deadlifts for a majority of people aren't worth the risk because there is so much technique involved and if you're not competing in powerlifting there is so many other ways you can work your hamstrings and lower back without risking herniating a disc.
If you're more scared of herniating a disc than strengthening the correct muscles, ligaments, tendons and bones to prevent it, don't even bother getting out of your bed in the morning. Lift with good bracing, know your limits and you'll be fine.
Deadlifts are worth it; the benefits are huge. They're safe if you don't royally screw up your form and don't do them too often. There's fairly little technique involved. Brace correctly (sucking in air, flexing core muscles), load the traps with shoulders over the bar, pull with your posterior chain, and shoot your hips forward when the bar gets past the knees. If you don't pull more weight than you can handle and flex your glutes throughout the movement, your back will be fine. Supplement with back extensions as an accessory movement and you'll have a lower back that's healthier than the vast majority of people.
5 years of watching joe rogan, he finally found a bigfoot for his podcast edit: this comment has more likes then i have views on videos.. now thats sad as fuq
But we've heard his story over and over again. Nobody really knows who the American monster is and Robert Oberst seems like a highly intelligent fella. Get Big Z on here , arguably the strongest Man of all time. A lot of Eddie's jokes are cringy as fuck.
I don't know what Joe Rogan means by "virtual" accomplishment. But as someone who both climbs and codes, and used to study math, I must strongly disagree with his position at the beginning. Solving a particular climbing or bouldering problem feels amazing for sure, and the physical aspect of it definitely helps. But solving a really tough coding problem, or solving a really hard math problem, or even _understanding_ a math proof that you were struggling with, has a very similar, sometimes stronger level of euphoria. As an example, I was struggling to understand the proof of Cantor's Theorem. When I finally did, and it clicked, it felt as satisfying as topping some of the hardest climbing problems I have done. IDK if Joe Rogan has experienced that kind of thing, but he shouldn't dismiss it if he hasn't.
Joe’s the type of dude to shit on “Virtual” accomplishments on his widely distributed internet podcast and not see the irony for even a split second, but that’s just what makes him so fascinating.
@@merkinyall The most Gen X response lmao all you need to complete it is shit beer and a dead stare when someone mentions your parents divorce while a typical thrash shredding solo plays in the background
I think what Rogan is talking about when he says "virtual" is beating Bowzer in Mario or doing a 360 flip down a 25-stair on Tony Hawk. While those things are exciting, it's not quite the same as tapping somebody out in a Jiu-Jitsu match or doing a simple ollie up a curb after months of practicing. While coding takes place on a computer and math on paper (or a screen), you're still creating something real or solving a real problem that has consequences. I don't think Rogan is referring to those accomplishments when he says "virtual."
That last part hits hard. One of my best friends (brilliant brilliant dude) through it all away over pills. He got sucked in hard, and nobody could pull him out. Sad stuff man.
@@brandonbaseler240 he is a huge shit talker and has never really backed up his BS. He had the American log record and Rob Kearny beat it in April. Oberst knows this because as soon as it happened he went and talked shit on Rob Kearny's IG about it. If he were to go try and break the current log record held by Big Z at 228kg he would fail and look like an idiot. That's why he hasn't done it, because he can't... if he could why not go do it? Why not go retake the American record at least? He just talks shit and acts tough and will never go attempt it, because he knows he can't really do it. He doesn't hold the log record (American or world), he's not top 10 in the world as he stated, and he couldn't go out right now and hit 228kg+ on the log lift.
@@travish325 i feel you are missing a perspective of his which is in the title of this video. Robert is saying this sport is destructive on the body in so many ways even with mindful vigilance. watch videos of him breaking the world records when he did this, it looks extremely taxing on the body for such a short time period. Even if he truly could break the current record continually or whichever, every time anybody does it, it is going to cause considerable damage to the body.
@@aarontuplin yeah, there is a risk to not deadlifting This advice is completely unfounded. Yeah he lifts a lot of heavy shit. He's also in the extreme side of the spectrum where lifting heavy shit all the time is what he does. There's a nice balance you need for overall health
@@jackhughman9450 For one event still called deadlift, strongman uses a lot of block pulls. For the record Sigmarsson held several standard deadlift records in his day.
Well TV is kinda dying now. If the people want to watch something, there's CZcams , Netflix, the Cinema , the Internet...all you need is a phone in this world now
I live a sedentary lifestyle and lightweight deadlifts (about 75kg) have greatly improved my lower back strength and the pain i had in that area is basically gone.
I used to have SEVERE back spasms. Then I started deadlifting 2-3x/wk, and I have zero back pain. The exercise saved my back and allows me to walk upright. Of course, I also don't lift 800 lbs.
Same. Deadlifting with correct form has really helped the lower back pain I've had for over a decade. I max at 130kg though - nothing like what would be considered a 'heavy' lift by most lifters
This guy threw his first name in a blender to get his last name
this should be the top comment! >_
LMFAO - Genius.
But one of the r’s got fucked up and turned into an s
Amazing
Legendary 😂
looks like hes about to say "youre a wizard harry"
I can Imagine Robert saying you're a wart Voldermort.
This deserves more props
You're a harry wizard
Musclemancer
Lmao. Hagrid!🤣🤣🤣
"Deadlifts are not good for you"
Lifts 800lbs
His advice wasn't for WSM, but for a mere athlete.
@@kingbjorn1832 well he is an idiot who doesn’t know what he is talking about he never won a WSM never did anything isn’t even an a athlete just a fat guy who drinks beer yeah I think I’ll keep deadlifting
@@JoeyCentral LMAO Just because he didn't win WSM his advice is worthless? He's at least the second strongest Man in U.S and the strongest Man in West U.S. managed to reach the semifinals in 2017, wtf are you talking about. Stfu. You sound so butt hurt bc he told you the truth probably.
@@kingbjorn1832 nah he is stupid and doesn’t know what he is talking about. Deadlifting is king of testing strength. Robert is just a shitty deadlifter so he makes up bullshit to cope how bad he sucks at it. He never won a WSM and that is why I think he is just a fat guy that drinks beer. Meanwhile people like me train like athletes and want to get real strong. So we should do cleans instead? That is proof he has no clue what he is talking about. I am betting money I’m stronger than he is already and I’m 100% natty
@@JoeyCentral you do realize he’s talking about traditional deads right? There’s no reason to do em outside of oly and power lifting/ wsm. Bc like he said risk vs reward isn’t there. That’s why you see the huge influx in sumo deads, and even trap bar deads. Trap bar you can get all the benefits without any of the dangerous injuries that might be prone to traditional.
I pulled my back out doing dead lifts when I first started working out 4 years ago. My back is not the same. I have back problems every day. In my opinion. I would say don't go to heavy. Pick a comfortable weight. Theres nothing to prove. The after affect of messing your back up is no joke. Your back will never be the same
Man you probably just dont eat right man
@@patgrogg4586 whats eating have to do with me pulling my back out?
@@tj_calisthenic1919 green leafy foods make your bones stronger. Your bones are probably brital and weak so pulling that weight in other areas were ok but your spine couldn't handle it . you cant outtrain a bad diet
@@patgrogg4586 Dont be trolling man haha
@@Rickai85 truth hurts and no Im not trolling you guys just have shit diets
I hate it when joe talks about a picture but we dont see.....
Jamie pull up that picture........ >:
No dinner for Jamie
Right
Pretty sure they are careful about which things they show here to avoid any copyright claims.
D R somebody was listening, yes the guy says “that’s Arnold’s show”. Meaning Arnold shwarstenaeger, i butchered the spelling but I’m sure he has copyrights on his show that would kill joe rogans podcast.
This was how Robert Baratheon looked when he was younger
Lmao. Now, go and fetch the Breastplate Stretcher!
"God I was Strong then"
"Ackchyually", he's supposed to look exactly like Renly Baratheon. Young and slim.
@@MsAlimajeed well, if I recall correctly, it's more that Renly looked like Young Robert but chose to spend his time being a courtly prince playing dress up, reading poetry, and doing falconry, while Young Robert spent his time *being a warrior* ... All three Baratheon brothers were "slim" in their prime, but it's more like Renly was slim and effeminate, Stannis was slim and hungry, Young Robert was slim and ripped. Robert was a ferociously strong fighter; his warhammer didn't just kill Rhaegar at the Trident, it caved in the dude's whole breastplate... I very much doubt Renly could have even weilded Robert's hammer, let alone smash freakin' armor inside-out with it
@@JimRFF you are the true Ackchyually lmao. Nevertheless I agree with everything you said.
My chiropractor told me to deadlift to keep my spine strong and aligned. Fast forward 10 years and I have zero issues with my back.
Yeah if you’re not blasting juice to be over 400 pounds to lift 1,000 and pushing the limits of human anatomy, deadlifts are actually great for you.
@@flexinriffs9926 THIS. This is so freaking true
@@flexinriffs9926 yeah the problem is when people see strongmen deadlifting more than 3x their bodyweight and think that the equation works backwards, so they're 200lb and think that they can deadlift 600lb.
@@jordythebassist Well if you train properly getting to 600 lbs is actually very doable within 3-5 years without juice.
@@happzy oh for sure it's possible, but the problem is those idiots haven't done their dues yet to get there 🙄
I've done bodybuilding and power lifting my entire life, one day I did deadlifts not even that heavy as usually I would go to about 500lbs, this time I had like half that weight. The following night I woke up with a disc in my nerve and muscle tissue, somehow my deadlift fucked my entire lower back and I didn't feel anything until hours later. I was brought to the hospital and couldn't walk for months, had to teach myself again. To this day, I can barely workout, barely walk, barely do anything.
Damn
Did u actually get it xrayed?
@@yomomshouse100 yes
Deads used to be my best life. I was early 20s and just warming up. Did 315 warming up . Picked it up and tweaked my back. I didn't rack the weights I just left cause I knew I'd get tight. 5 minute car ride home and I had to crawl out the car. Dead are the only thing that gave me injuries. I'm 36 now. I still do deads. But I'll go to chiropractor and stretch and get massages regularly. I do 225 easy. Sometimes 275. I don't need to do 500 for reps. Noones paying me to do it. Used to tweak my back once every year or two.
Did u manage to recover? If yes tell me how please but without surgery
Most people wear sleeveless shirts to show off, this guy literally can't find wide enough sleeves
I say to people when I am at the gym stop looking in the mirror and saying how shit you look because there are always someone out there who will say that for you and want to bring you down with their comments. Well here you are with your people only wear singlets to show off, no one is stopping you wearing singlets or is it you are ashamed of yourself.
So do swimmers wear their costumes to look good, you need to stop being jealous of what others are doing and go and do something for yourself.
I'm thinking that he has to make shirts out of bedsheets... and there's not much fabric left over.
@@kevock7100 what the hell? He was complimenting him.
@@kevock7100 you must be a buzz at parties
@@kevock7100 So your comment translates to "Wa Wa, I'm offended and going to complain"?
Don’t do deadlifts ✅
Smoke weed ✅
Get paid almost nothing ✅
Is this an application for security work???
@SuoterStar Fake news.
This guy is doing just fine financially.
daniel gonzalez bro
Just show this to Ronnie Coleman about the Deadlifts, and he'll say NOOOOO BUDDDDDYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Seattle206723 yeah, hows your buddy ronnie doing now?
@@shshdajajjsusuebw8902 Robert's net worth is only 400k ...
He's fine, but not rich by any means. He's an athlete in an underrated sport with no money.
Such a cool and down to earth dude. You can tell he's a blast to be around.
Yeah he seems awesome
I recommend watching The History Channel's, "The Strongest Man in History", with Robert, Brian Shaw, Eddie Hall and Nick Best. Chances are you've already seen it, but for anyone who hasn't, it's such a fun show and the guys have fun messing with each other. Very brotherly. Only one season but oh well.
My low back is trashed. I stopped doing deadlifts with a straight bar 25 years ago. I recently started doing deadlifts with a hex bar. Lower weight, high reps. It makes my back feel great every time I do it.
It's definitely a bigger risk factor of your low back is compromised
595 competition deadlift in college. 181 & 198. Flash forward 48 years old… the ONLY injury I don;t have is low back. Heavy Good mornings & deadlifting were the best time I ever invested.
I fucking love the hex bar
Hex bar is a leg press more than a deadlift
@@lukeschihl509 I tend to agree, straight bar works my lats and lower back a lot more but if that's compromised just cut your losses right
Actually the title should be: don't do ego deadlifting....
Seriously. Deadlifting is fine if you practice form and technique. The problems is most people that just lift casually have shit form.
And most people that lift casually don't really need it.
No again as he said there is a reason real athletes dont do them. They are super dangerous for the gains u get when u can get the same gains with other less risky weight training.
Thabestevah not dangerous at all properly done...much rather do a heavy DL than a heavy squat. Further there are countless real athletes that deadlift....I’m not talking about maxing.
@@33moneyball but why do it when u can do other things that don't put your back in jeopardy of you slip up on form slightly. I would never try to max deadlift bc i like my back too much and can do other things to work those muscle groups. Like he said it just seems like an unneccasary risk to take from a reward
isk perspective
"Yeah, but have you ever tried deadlifting on DMT?"
Ethan I have.
Red Team Go!
On codeine, i have.
Palester Pipol How’d that go? Lol
HAHAHAHAHAH
“You should never get a bad back from deadlifts. It’s always some bad form or technique”
*- Eddie Hall, the first man to deadlift 500kg*
*Puts on Support Belt to Deadlift*
--Eddie Hall
@@Krystalmyth
“I always recommend using a good belt. Of course its also great to not use a belt to strengthen your core but *I always make sure to use a belt to make sure my lower back doesn’t get injured* .
A lot of people were surprised that *I never got any back problems in my whole career* . And I never have, never, ever any back problems. I believe its *because of the right technique* , deadlifting correctly.”
- *Thor, current world record holder for the deadlift*
Eddie hall talks shit and is a moron
Ummm..... Ya from a medical stand point , deadlifts are insanely bad on the si joint .
"You never do a bad form deadlift" - no one, ever
Deadlifts fucked me up for a long time. Fuck deadlifts.
For real man. I didn't wanna admit it at first
Cue tons of gym bros switching to cleans with no training and injuring themselves
cause they have big egos
Optic500 or they love to workout and are excited? It’s ego to like to workout? Lol
Literally me last week. I watched a couple videos on how to do it, & have been waiting for my shoulder to recover. Lol, live and learn I guess.
What is to be gained by deadlifting? There's other things to build legs, rows and pulldowns build the back. I've never felt the need to deadlift in my life and I'm happy with my physique, don't feel it's lacking in any department.
@@BigBadJerryRogers we're talking about strength here not physique.
Deadlifting is so unsafe it's better to do a more a complicated Olympic lift that combines a deadlift and a squat
Yeah, how are power cleans safer?
@@animal0mother Joe never seems to question people he likes when they say something silly. The only logical explanation I can think of is that you'd have to inherently use less weight doing a power clean
I was trying to figure that out. Not only are the motions no different but it looks far more complicated.
Matt Wilson hit the nail on the head.
Matt Wilson bingo
I used to deadlift 425 for reps of 12; nice, slow, controlled form. Never had a day of back pain in my life. Strong core and glutes = injury free. Then some lady rear ended me with her car and now I’m fucked. Blows
Damn
Sorry to hear that
Core doesnt exist.
These strong men guys have huge hearts and great souls you can tell!
It's kind of disheartening how there's so much conflicting advice in the realms of exercise and nutritional science; you could ask ten different experts and they would give you ten different lines of advice on what to eat and how best to work out. I know it's hard to come up with conclusive studies in those fields based on the nature of the problem but it'd be nice if there were some kind of authoritative source that you could look up and get a universally agreed upon answer to any health or fitness related question that you might have.
I think the best thing to do is to just try out a bunch of different techniques yourself and see which one gets you the best results and just take what all these so called experts say with a grain of salt
It's just about finding the right resources, and looking in the right places. Instagram nutritionists/coaches will generally always give you misinformation because they're just trying to sell a product. Dive into the research to verify what you learn. And always be suspicious of taking anecdotal evidence to heart - like advice that you shouldn't deadlift.
Right? It’s ridiculous
The problem is everyone in the nutrition or fitness world has an agenda and is trying to sell you something.
Well duh everybody is different
I like it when he talks in kilograms... saves me dividing by 2.2
2.2046789 yea!!!
I like when he talkes in pounds it saves me from multiplying by 2.2, wait nvm it's not that hard
i like it when you can google this shit
Oh man. I was multiplying by 0.454 during my whole life
Just google for example 370lbs to kg and you get a more accurate answer
I admire these strong men and their abilities. I used to lift weights and wanted to get strong. I did get strong but only strong relative to the average man. This Gus and guys like him are true strong men! It is unbelievable the weight he can lift. This requires a genetic advantage but also a lot of work to get so strong. These giant strong men often seem to be really nice and polite. I guess when you can kick the crap out of an elephant you don’t need go around acting tough and dominant.
got a chance to run into Robert at the DFW airport. what a massive, massive man. yet moves VERY athletically. just an amazing young man.
He's not athletic and he's not young. He's gotta be 40 and he's gotta be obese. So no and no.
"You will never get the same feeling from something virtual as something physical.
It would appear our man joe hasnt ever played dark souls.
@Trevor Castillo and then 1 shotting a feral tank druid with a windfury proc
Thumbs up for life!
*naked dude armed with whips invades*
😂😂
I've only tried to defeat the pursuer 3 dozen times now...
Nah I dont deadlift. *lifts up car to sweep out garage* Yeah no..its bad for you. *drops car*
I've always thought it was bad. Just looks and feels so unnatural for your back to be in that position.
Grubby bum if it feels unnatural for your back maybe you were cat lifting.
@@jaymiddleton1782 I just can't think of any natural reason you'd ever be in the Deadlift position, speaking from 10 years working in removals and demolition. Squating to lift something heavy is the way to go.
And yes, I do have a curved spine, even in a neutral position my back is "cat like", unfortunately.
@@grubbybum3614 I beg to differ, anytime you pick up something heavy off the floor it's basically a deadlift. Like when I do manual labor and I have to pick up heavy or multiple bags of concrete or sand off the floor, that is basically a deadlift. If you were a farmer and had to pick up a heavy stone to remove it from your field, that would be a deadlift too, so I find it natural actually as long as you're not just doing super heavy weights or focusing too much on that exercise
Patricio Ansaldi lol wut? When you pick heavy shit up, you get under it, you don’t grab a bar, grabbing regular heavy stuff is way closer to just regular squat. Stop acting like you have any idea what you are talking about
i listened to this dude and have been feeling much better. was getting some bad hip pain from having to lower the bar slowly (downstairs neighbors). now i have a hex bar with bumper plates and it's so much better. instead of getting pain in my hips when i lower it slowly i just feel nice activation in the hamstrings. feels like it's working the muscles i want to build rather than just building up my spinal erectors and making me all stiff.
I think the problem is people lifting way more than what they probably need for fitness.
I took time off from lifting and all through my 30s I injured myself trying to lift close to my athletic peak. Eventually I just started lifting with the bar and I started to feel amazing. I don’t even care what I lift anymore. I’ll just keep slowing adding weights and feel amazing. I wish someone taught me that when I was young.
exactly why i started deadlifts with the bar, built my form and tendons first. Haven't had back pain since.
I’m with you guys. I’ve been weak my whole life and started lifting two years ago and just started with the bar, slowing adding weight. Agreed… it’s not about how much weight you lift but how you lift it and the weight only goes up once you need more to stay on your desired rep range
@@DC-bx8ww I did progressive lifting didn't lift a bar alone from 1st day, deadlifted upto 350 lbs peak, but most of the time I lifted upto 270 lbs only, I am doing all that on a natural diet, not even supplements, never even put a strap on my waist, the key was to lift for fitness and not gains, it was always to get small burn and than thats all, the ones doing heavy lifting end up like Ronnie Coleman, it's stupid how PPL lift so much weight only to regret later in their lives, they're not even athletes on top of that.
gym bro culture breeds a weird ego....half of the people in the gym are lifting for other people and not themselves
Reminds me of Robert Baratheon...
Gods he was strong then!
He should have played Robert Baratheon in GoT
U deserve the iron throne for that comment!
Could play a young Robert Baratheon in a prequel lol
Robert's Rebellion
Best Thrones character :D
For scale, look at how small his headphones look, they're the same size as Joe's
Oh my god you're right! Thats so insane...this guy is a fucking mammoth lol
jesus i didn't notice that at first, looks like he's wearing little kid's headphones
And the Sm7b looks like a tic tac next to him haha i have the same mic and cant even wrap my whole hand around it so my fingers touch.
holy shit
And this while we all know Joe's coconut is massive as it is.
ego is the only reason the average person gets hurt doing deadlifts
Nope, sometimes it is just general tiredness as well. Deadlifts is a complex exercise that is very easy to be fucked up when you're a bit tired.
Deadlift is one of the easiest movers every, bend down, lift bar@@mcmohitchauhan21
People, this man isn’t telling us to not do deadlifts. What he’s saying is that the risk factor is high, especially if you’re doing heavy weight. That’s why athletes like to stay away from it. To safely deadlift, always make sure your form is good, and only lift what you feel is comfortable/achievable with proper form.
Yeah, yet he claims that power cleans are somehow safer than a deadlift. With that sentence all his credibility went out of the window for me personally.
Dude ...... That was he was SAYING - "PROPER FORM IS REALLY HARD", THE RISK AND REWARD ISNT WORTH IT.
So find a replacement to Deadlifts insted. Like Farm Walk that works.
@@el29 Yet he claims that power clean is a safer alternative... This makes no sense whatsoever.
@@dmitri2366 bro, what? hes one of the world strongest men who literally lift weights for a living, how does he lose credibility lmao..... to answer your comment power cleans are safer than deadlifts because deadlifts use both your back and legs at the same time, cleans should preserve your back angle while your knees extend. therefore less likely to cause injury to your lower back. and guess what, i know nothing of lifting weights, all it took was a quick google search, which is what you shouldve done before saying "With that sentence all his credibility went out of the window for me personally."
@@Alvah707 I dont think you understand what a power clean is. The problem with a quick Google search is that the information that you find might be incorrect. We are not only talking about the lower back but overall risk of injury. There is no way that a deadlift is mechanically safer than a power clean as it is basically a deadlift and front squat COMBINED. During the lift off you still roughly use the SAME movement pattern and muscles as during a deadlift. Not even to mention that you have to be explosive during a power clean and cannot pace yourself to focus on form like you can in the deadlift. And youre telling me there is some how more risk of injury in a much simpler movement? There are so many contradicting opinions in this industry and a lot of athletes just follow their coaches advice. Experts constantly disagree with eachother. So no disrespect to this individual but what he said simply is not correct.
*Guy lifts 10k pound with 1 hand on an empty stomach*
Joe: That's just like Comedy
thats just like comedy... btw ,you ever smoke dmt??
Lmao
Subscribe to me & I'll subscribe to you
Lol GTFOT Joe! Your comment is pure comedy
The first time i smoked it i could see a million silver back gorrillas playing the saxophone on the walls... it was fuckin crazy man... jamie pull up that video about the coyote eating the woman's dog in burbank
Robert: “And his brother is actually the lead singer of Powerman 5000.”
Joe: *has no idea who they are*
Joe: “Really? Oh, wow.”
Yup.
Napalm in the morning a Sodom reference?
@@Billy_Rizzle I had no clue they existed and I love that song.
Had to search for it, too.
I grew up on powerman 5000. like em better than rob zombie tbh
idk if its an act on joes part but it seems he never has heard of anything or hes always surprised to hear something.
I tried deadlifting when I first started to lift and I never got comfortable with it. I stopped soon after and I've still managed to get pretty okay back gains while keeping my back healthy 👌🏼
A lot of people who get hurt deadlifting try to lift near their one rep max. It’s insane how much progress I’ve made just by adding deadlifts to my workout routine. I spent a long time making sure I have proper form and I mean so far so good. 🤷🏼♂️ Exercise advice is all over the place
I like hex bar deadlift best
Idk man we only have 1 spine. If I can get those same benefits from other exercises then why risk it? Every guy Ive seen that has quit the gym has been because they either got lazy or injured their back deadlifting heavy.
Wow, I can’t believe I’m seeing Robert on Joe Rogan!!
I Agree! He needs to be on DemoRanch more! He was classic on Granger Smith music video Hollar!
I know it's class
how can you still be shocked by JRE guest at this point lol
Wish Brian Shaw 4 time World Strongest Man was on Joe Rogan. He is such a good soul.
same, i was so fucking excited when i saw
The best weightlifting advice I’ve ever gotten, regardless of the specific exercises themselves, is to utilize good form, have a good coach, and control your ego.
Ik. This is such an uneducated thing for someone with his influence to say. Annoys tf outta me Bc 5 million people might have this mindset on one of the if not the most function exercise you can do
💯
@@jonahworley6879 Working out is %80 mental and %20 physical.......an Arnold Schwarzenegger quote and TRUE!!!!! 😈😎😇
@@jonahworley6879 so if the world strongest man says deadlifts are worth it who tf are you lmfao
Sounds like he didn't apply that mindset to his deadlift
What a nice, humble dude.
damn, @7:00 got real deep there for a moment. His friend held the record and passed away and he wanted to be the one to break it.
This dude looks like bam margera if he was as big as phil n bacame a powerlifter.
The most accurate comment I've EVER read in life. You just won CZcams
Hahahahaha yes you won
VILE STYLE and fucked April *
looks like Bam’s dad and uncle
That is a really clever comment
Makes “The Rock” look more like “The Pebble”
Hahahhahahahaha nice one
Nah The Rock is still The Rock, Robert is just The Boulder.
🤣
@Chris Seymour this guy is 6’7” 400+ pounds pretty sure the rock is never going to be bigger than him. And there is nothing soft about this absolute unit the rock is not even close. Abs and definition aren’t a sign of power or strength, their a sign of extreme dieting and dedication (also steroids in the rocks case). This guy would bear hug the rock and snap his spine like a twig
Tsssss probably listens to *stoner* rock, tsssssss fawk yeaaa
Look at how any gymbro does deadlifts with a banana back hitch, and what this dude is saying is absolutely true.
The fact that he knows who little bow wow is is fascinating to me.
Like Mike slapped
I wished Jamie (or whoever controls switching between cameras) would actually show the pics they are talking about more often.
I think most times they dont show the screen to avoid copyright.
@@PVWNSVCR1F1C3 That makes sense. But there are times they don't because I think Jamie is very busy working behind the scenes making sure everything is working.
Does It Right Son yea but when they used to do that the visual aspect was much better. It’s almost like it needs a 2nd upload website so they can get around copyright bs as CZcams sees it
They used to have the clips up all the time but they can’t anymore cus of CZcams copyrights
youtube has a whole team watching rogan to try and copyright strike so not much they can do
i have no idea who this man is but he is incredibly humble and talks really nicely about others while looking like a terrifying bear. impressive dude
@donutdoode69 and it's a good thing too lol
Ya rob has some speaking skills
Very very true , most guest aren’t so genuine
he is a really humble nice person
He is one of the strongest men
he's such a chill dude. he'd be cool to hang out with
Eddie hall loves deadlifting and even he says its not worth it, and he has the world record of deadlift
Could it be that strongmen live and die by their deadlift?? Naw, it clearly has to be a bad movement, think nothing of the people talking trash about it
Robert has such infectious enthusiasm. Really great dude.
Except that time that he lied about not having electricity in high school? Then went home to Google Strong Man
@@maxwellprince5742 i think that was after college
He's fat
@@StallionFernando Powerlifters and strongmen do have a higher body fat percentage than that of a bodybuilder, but dont mistake it for obesity, these dudes are strong as fuck, imagine how strong your core will have to be to pick 1000 pounds off the floor, they train solely for strength and probably capable of crushing your head with his bare hands 😂
@@maxwellprince5742 listening helps.
7:05 listen with no context
I'm glad I saw this comment before i got far enough into the video to get the context
😂😂😂😂 pretty uncomfortable.
I'm fucking screaming right now 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao
Lmao
Love this guy... appreciate the wisdom and realness
I injured my lower back twice. Once lifting my father off the ground after he had fallen and the first time I ever did heavy deadlifts. This is what Robert is talking about. In both situations I didn't lift properly, in the first I didn't even have the strength to do it at all.
I then began watching tutorials daily and checking back constantly to make sure I was performing the lift properly. Lifted for about four years after that, with the deadlift being one of my core strength building exercises. Never once had another issue again, because I was doing them correctly.
Robert's advice shouldn't be "don't perform deadlifts.". It should be, "don't perform deadlifts if you're not serious about mastering correct form and performance of this exercise.".
Granted, he is right, most people, like myself in the beginning, probably won't. But if one is going to learn to safely and properly do the deadlift, then it is actually quite bad advice to advise against "ever" doing it. It's a natural lifting movement that humans have been performing for millennia. It works several key muscle groups and can be great for building beast like power when lifting heavy and correctly.
I dont do squats or deadlifts tho. It takes only one repetition and even professional bodybuilders get injuries and back surgery even more than normal people. If youre not a pro bodybuilder then theres no point fing you back like that. since I stopped performing them I stopped haviong low back pains and feel much better. If you do gym for hyperthrophy then theres really no gain to it imo
@@ricardodelacrvz1400 It boosts your testosterone and stimulates the CNS to adapt and make you stronger, it can contribute to strength in your other lifts indirectly. It's a great foundational strength exercise. It's all about maintaining correct form.
You can do proper form for 30 days straight but all it takes is just 1 day you feel tired & you perform an improper rep & destroy your back. Way too dangerous
@@martinjohnson4796 So long as you contract your lats properly, push your chest out and drive through your heels you won't have a problem. Ironically if you're ensuring your form is correct you won't be able to lift it if you're tired and you let it go. A rounded back can actually enable you to lift a weight more easily but it's more dangerous. When I started deadlifting at 21 I went up to 230kg in a few weeks and my form on that 1RM was horrible. I look back and thank God I didn't do my back in but I was young I guess.
It's not worth it tho. Yea maybe it's a great workout but it doesn't matter how u much master ur technique, just one slip up and ur back is done for life.
Listening this while having lower back pain after doing deadlifts yesterday...
Then your doing it wrong.... Any exercise can give you pain if you do it wrong.
@@MaHan05 usually I don't have problems after deadlifting... Maybe it was just a bad day. Tbf the training was a bit longer than usual, on the deadlifts I didn't even go as heavy as I go most of the time. Maybe I did to much barbell rows along with it....
@@siberianTiger639 hopefully you didn't do the rows before deadlifts.. that would be stupid as hell. You don't want to exhaust your upper back muscles before you do deadlifts.
@@bez1196 I did. Just didn't think too much about it. I guess I won't do it again... Not because of the upper back though, the lower part is the problem.
@@bez1196 i always do rows and then deadlift heavy as last exercise and never had problem with my back
“I smoke weed”. Joes ears instantly perk.
🤣🤣🤣 don’t deadlift : joe leaves the room
i don't know what to believe anymore
Been doing deadlifts for a while and it’s been so beneficial to my back and core. Haven’t had any back pain since doing deadlifts regularly. But I started with really low weight till I got my technique proper, and slowly but surely worked my way up.
Same. I hate this appeal to authority bullshit "well hes a strongman so he knows what he's talking about"
Meanwhile there are many thousands of people who regularly deadlift and whose lives are better for it
well lifting only 100kg will not injure you even with bad form get to the 250kg+ range and it gets to different level. What hes saying is absolut true
@@ownageboxIt’s not true. He’s saying “don’t do deadlifts”. That’s dumb. What’s also dumb is deadlifting dangerous amounts of weight.
you can injure your spine with a tiny amount of weight lifted incorrectly for a split second. You don't know wtf you're talking about. @@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom
Good to see Hagrid's finally left behind the Wizard world and taken up Muggle workouts to make a living
Lol is that Nicolas Cage's face on your bunny for a thumbnail?
HILARIOUS SHIT!
I just laughed out loud whilst at a silent clients office to this comment
Mhm.
Do wizards even lift?
He's built like a boulder. Reminds me of the chief goron from Zelda
LOL
Flapp em
(I looked down and somehow accidentally went to the comments and typed this and decided posting instead of deleting it)
Beat him and get the iron boots yay⚔️🎮
Ah shit now I can't unsee it
Yooo wtf is wrong with you? Making fun of peopel when you look like elmo bitch
I enjoy dead-lifts because of the raw visceral feeling of lifting heavy weight from the floor, but after talking to my chiropractor about the long-term effects on the spine I am a bit more apprehensive. I now take a more thoughtful approach to lifting and have also incorporated some mat Pilates workouts which I highly recommend since it trains your body in ranges of motion we tend to neglect. You may laugh but your 65+ year old self will thank you one day. Also I'm also surprised no one brings up Ronnie Coleman and the toll heavy lifting did to his body. It's truly sad.
Chiropractors are pseudoscience lol
X-Rays don't lie
No need to laugh at recovering your body for the long term let ego go stop caring about what others think just do whats best for you stretching pilates and yoga will make your lifting better.
I looked it up , Ronnie Coleman had 13 spine surgeries and was left nearly paralyzed .. sheesh
@@jayz6008 yeah but none of us are pushing the weight Ronnie is, he was moving heavy ass weight for years and that took a toll on him. I think we’re fine, unless you plan on being competition ready like Ronnie
I have now huge respect for this dude...
Awesome guy
Anyone else think that this dude looks like a jacked bam Margera?
Probably how Phil looked when Bam was just a gleam in his eye.
@@stevenphillips6127 yup for sure!
The idea of Bam being that jacked is terrifying!
Bam looks like Phil these days lol
Cant unsee it now
when Robert said “a buddy of mine”
Joe: 😍
lmao
What a lovely guy. So well spoken and articulate. Very interesting interview.
A gentle giant fr
Watching this interview sent me on a journey of fitness. I got out of shape since then... and now I am recommiting myself to getting fit again.
Does this guy look fit?. He will have the same level of health of a morbidly obese person. Cmon man
I like this dude, he looks like I could seriously have a conversation with him as he benches me a few dozen times
Whatever turns you on mate 😂
Hobnob Head no homo of course
Go watch SHAWSTRENGTH his channel is just amazing and features Oberst and Eddie Hall as well in alot of videos
Watch him on the Off The Ranch channel too. They're the ones that do all of his merchandise and he's featured on there quite a bit. Oberst is an awesome dude.
Full sus mode
I think I blocked this guy playing high school football in Santa Cruz. Edit: Yes, I definitely did. I was a center, he was a nose. He planted me in a puddle and I almost drown... I'm all good now.
Must have been an honor to go face to face on the line against such a beast .
Santa Cruz is heaven ... Or at least it was , haven't lived there in years
Heavens expensive
Steroids are a hell of a drug, I prefer crack but to each their own. - Jon Jones
Woah santa cruz california dude i live there lol
100% correct. All the back injuries I see are from deadlifts or barbell squats.
Just reading these comments - just throwing it out there - how good is Joe at facilitating these interviews.
He listens and allows the interviewee to actual tell their story
Joe: Arnold was there?
Robert: Yea
Joe: rAHRAHRahRA
I died
Yeah you can tell Robert did NOT like that one bit lol
Bear how? there was no indication it rubbed him the wrong way
@@bear5945 how
Joe Rogan on Trending? This is new....
@Suffer No Fools maybe cuz Alex Jones is only interesting as a meme and isnt very popular other than that. I'm tired of people crying about how victimized they are
Dude one time i ripped my middle finger off and gave it to my pet chinchilla and then i took a shit in your kitchen sink bitch!!!!
@@nathanbruce1992 how is a 4 hour podcast with 20 million views a meme? You make zero sense.
Surprised CZcams would allow an alt righter to trend
@@nathanbruce1992 totally agree, alex jones is a total fucking buffoon aswell. issue is is while yes everyone, even straight white males, want to be victims. everyone. if you can take away alex's platform, you can take away anybodys platform.
Too many good content in JRE but this one one of my fav. Robert is such a nice and interesting person. Intelligent as well.
"I can break the log lift world record right now" never happened. Something to be said for humility. It's now 229kg.
Yeah. Its unfortunate. Robert has always had great potential and his (especially pressing) strength is insane but he's always dropped the ball at competitions. I've always been a fan of his but he can't ever seem to bring it all together when it matters. And if you watch the podcast he just did with Brian he's stated that he's retired now.
It was 228kg when he did this interview. Definitely tried to undermine Z saying it was 219 and acting like he could beat it, not even remotely close.
He talked about deadlifts for like 5 seconds
Right.
Well he did say his opinion and reason...
No, you just only understand 5 seconds of what he saying
They spent more time talking about pouring honey in each others mouths
Wow some of Joes audience are so fucking stupid as hell man.
The Russian strongman he talked about that was in the Russian special forces is Mikhail Shivlyakov. He's a beast, but also a gentle giant. He's known for both his friendliness and humility, and also bleeding out of his nose on super-heavy deadlifts.
Yes! 🇷🇺🇷🇺
Gentle special forces lol his job is to shoot people
@@binewtv2214 he’s got the softest trigger pull on the planet
@@binewtv2214 yeah but he can still be a gentleman
idk if Russian marines are considered spec ops, but the guy is a beast
Robert always seems well chill.
He was also fucking amazing in righteous gemstone! Was shocked how good of an actor he was, with great comedic timing!
I used to frontsquat almost 2xbw beltless and deadlift over 2xbw beltless, my clean technique was aproved by coach as pretty good, until I injoured my back trying to catch powerclean lower than usual, at about paralel, since that my lower back discs are totaly unpredictable, sometimes I can deadlift or frontsquat but mostly warmup or lighter weights injoures my again, i cant stand longer than few minutes to immense pain, cant bend freely to put on shoes, cant do fast movements. Trying to catch powerclean low was my worst gym decision, never had such problems from any other exercise before
Didnt understand a single thing lol
I think the problem to address here is that, based on your description, you were attempting to perform a power clean and due to either fatigue or too much weight, you compromised and did a full squat clean with the intent to perform a power clean. Your mind is intending to perform one motor pattern (power clean) and had to respond with a full clean. This, does expose you to risk of injury. Hope you have a speedy recover.
Bruh you talk so weird
How are you doing now? Have you looked into Stuart McGill's work and rehabbing that way? The inconsistency and symptoms sounds like a classic disc injury where sometimes you are totally symptom-free and other times you were standing or sitting and get flared up. You may have to back off one load moving well 24/7, perfect spine hygiene, build up your core and then gradually reintroduce load.
What are you talking about? Front squats are great. They force you to lift with proper form.
12:57 is where Joe actually tuned in.
"I smoke weed"
What's that now?
🏆
Athlean X, Jeff Cavalier please !!!! he would be great
agreed
“Joe, podcasts are killing your gains!!!!””
@@mrross5685 Yes but have you tried DMT with that?
Yesss
Tommy 1•1•Six Orozco
jeff: “have you tried face-pulls?”
Joe: “Have you tried face-pulls on DMT?”
I have nothing in common with this dude and yet I enjoyed this little interview and think he's be pleasant to be around. Joe you've really mastered the interview format.
He is correct, deadlifts for a majority of people aren't worth the risk because there is so much technique involved and if you're not competing in powerlifting there is so many other ways you can work your hamstrings and lower back without risking herniating a disc.
If you're more scared of herniating a disc than strengthening the correct muscles, ligaments, tendons and bones to prevent it, don't even bother getting out of your bed in the morning. Lift with good bracing, know your limits and you'll be fine.
Deadlifts are worth it; the benefits are huge. They're safe if you don't royally screw up your form and don't do them too often. There's fairly little technique involved. Brace correctly (sucking in air, flexing core muscles), load the traps with shoulders over the bar, pull with your posterior chain, and shoot your hips forward when the bar gets past the knees. If you don't pull more weight than you can handle and flex your glutes throughout the movement, your back will be fine. Supplement with back extensions as an accessory movement and you'll have a lower back that's healthier than the vast majority of people.
@@SendEstringsForXmas not worth it
Lol so theres more technique in a deadlift than in a powerclean?
@@SendEstringsForXmas deadlifting has literally no benefit you cant get from other, much safer excercises.
5 years of watching joe rogan, he finally found a bigfoot for his podcast
edit: this comment has more likes then i have views on videos.. now thats sad as fuq
5 years of watching him and you still spell it jo
Lol
But, has he tried DMT?
HE LOOKS LIKE A FAT PIECE OF SHIT HE SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET TO THE GYM AND NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO NOBODY TELLS ME WHAT TO DO
@@jackiet3251 GO TO BED :P
Get Eddie Hall on here
The beast!!!!
Or Brian Shaw!!
Ya eddie almost died from his world record
Why.
But we've heard his story over and over again. Nobody really knows who the American monster is and Robert Oberst seems like a highly intelligent fella. Get Big Z on here , arguably the strongest Man of all time. A lot of Eddie's jokes are cringy as fuck.
I don't know what Joe Rogan means by "virtual" accomplishment. But as someone who both climbs and codes, and used to study math, I must strongly disagree with his position at the beginning. Solving a particular climbing or bouldering problem feels amazing for sure, and the physical aspect of it definitely helps. But solving a really tough coding problem, or solving a really hard math problem, or even _understanding_ a math proof that you were struggling with, has a very similar, sometimes stronger level of euphoria. As an example, I was struggling to understand the proof of Cantor's Theorem. When I finally did, and it clicked, it felt as satisfying as topping some of the hardest climbing problems I have done. IDK if Joe Rogan has experienced that kind of thing, but he shouldn't dismiss it if he hasn't.
Joe’s the type of dude to shit on “Virtual” accomplishments on his widely distributed internet podcast and not see the irony for even a split second, but that’s just what makes him so fascinating.
Nerd
@@merkinyall The most Gen X response lmao all you need to complete it is shit beer and a dead stare when someone mentions your parents divorce while a typical thrash shredding solo plays in the background
@@DemetriosLevi hell yeah. That’s what I’m talking about
I think what Rogan is talking about when he says "virtual" is beating Bowzer in Mario or doing a 360 flip down a 25-stair on Tony Hawk. While those things are exciting, it's not quite the same as tapping somebody out in a Jiu-Jitsu match or doing a simple ollie up a curb after months of practicing.
While coding takes place on a computer and math on paper (or a screen), you're still creating something real or solving a real problem that has consequences. I don't think Rogan is referring to those accomplishments when he says "virtual."
The Catalyst is LEGENDARY...been around for days
good god, ive been trying to build my traps for ages...i think i figured out why it doesnt seem to be working, this dude stole em all
Some of the top sumo wrestlers have traps that you wouldn't believe. Comes from practising to lift the Son of the Blob out of the ring :)
Probably on roids
Edit: nvm 100% on roids
Do farmers walks.
Some people are just gifted I haven't lifted for over a yr and my traps are big nothing like Oberst but big for a 230 guy
Heavy shrugs. Let em stretch
Cheat shrugs
Its always good to see a good hearted, down to Earth person. he seems like a great guy and really appreciates life, good for him
That last part hits hard. One of my best friends (brilliant brilliant dude) through it all away over pills. He got sucked in hard, and nobody could pull him out. Sad stuff man.
Thanks for showing the photo of the leg press with Arnold 👍
This man said, “I could break it right now.” And I didn’t doubt him for a second 😂
record is 228 kg, no way he could beat it.
He doesn't even hold the American record anymore... He ain't beating the world record anytime soon
I dont think he would say that on a popular public platform if he wasnt confident that it was true. It is the man's career.
@@brandonbaseler240 he is a huge shit talker and has never really backed up his BS. He had the American log record and Rob Kearny beat it in April. Oberst knows this because as soon as it happened he went and talked shit on Rob Kearny's IG about it. If he were to go try and break the current log record held by Big Z at 228kg he would fail and look like an idiot. That's why he hasn't done it, because he can't... if he could why not go do it? Why not go retake the American record at least? He just talks shit and acts tough and will never go attempt it, because he knows he can't really do it. He doesn't hold the log record (American or world), he's not top 10 in the world as he stated, and he couldn't go out right now and hit 228kg+ on the log lift.
@@travish325 i feel you are missing a perspective of his which is in the title of this video. Robert is saying this sport is destructive on the body in so many ways even with mindful vigilance. watch videos of him breaking the world records when he did this, it looks extremely taxing on the body for such a short time period.
Even if he truly could break the current record continually or whichever, every time anybody does it, it is going to cause considerable damage to the body.
my L4 and L5 are applauding this very late information...... 'Fused' in their agreement, if you will.
Hahahahaha
Were you vanity lifting?
@@aarontuplin yeah, there is a risk to not deadlifting This advice is completely unfounded. Yeah he lifts a lot of heavy shit. He's also in the extreme side of the spectrum where lifting heavy shit all the time is what he does. There's a nice balance you need for overall health
@@fulmer6 this x1000
@@aarontuplin guilty as charged. My discs were bulging like their metallic kg namesakes.
1000% agreed. Glad I watched this a few years ago and again today.
You can do deadlifts, just don’t try to pr and keep the weight at a 6 rep minimum range
"There is no reason to be alive if you cannot do deadlift". ~John Paul Sigmarsson
While doing an above the knee deadlift
I'm not an Eskimo, I am a VIKING!
Didnt he die after a deadlifting session?
@@robjohnson5981 you have to live it
@@jackhughman9450 For one event still called deadlift, strongman uses a lot of block pulls. For the record Sigmarsson held several standard deadlift records in his day.
"No TV except for maybe once a week but as a kid it's not that big of a deal you just go outside and play" ...My how the times have changed.
How did his dad work for caterpillar and not have money to get electricity?
@@nothanks3980
Some areas didn't have power lines.
@@nothanks3980 Im sure he made decent money but he said there were 10 kids in the house.
Well TV is kinda dying now. If the people want to watch something, there's CZcams , Netflix, the Cinema , the Internet...all you need is a phone in this world now
Try living without technology in 2019, you nostalgia stans need to let go.
Add squats to that too. You don't need to risk permanent back injury to work quads, calves, ets.
I first seen this guy on Demolition Ranch tryna lift Clouds Buster sword and swing it into a car 😂
same
gf: honey, where tf is our money?
lifter: ate it.
Sounds about right.
Seriously, you gotta wonder what this guy puts down. I'm guessing a lot of eggs for one thing...
This comment needs more attention.
There's a couple videos on here dedicated to just how much he eats lol
There ain't no trees in Botswana. I know. I am a Botswana lumberjack and I ain't never had a job.
Ernest P. Worrell.
@@jamesseabrook6427 Haha! Yup!
So you're saying...you're a lumberjack and you're _not_ okay?
😆😂
You need dress sheild
I live a sedentary lifestyle and lightweight deadlifts (about 75kg) have greatly improved my lower back strength and the pain i had in that area is basically gone.
I used to have SEVERE back spasms. Then I started deadlifting 2-3x/wk, and I have zero back pain. The exercise saved my back and allows me to walk upright. Of course, I also don't lift 800 lbs.
Same. Deadlifting with correct form has really helped the lower back pain I've had for over a decade. I max at 130kg though - nothing like what would be considered a 'heavy' lift by most lifters
Used to have the same, every week. Started a wheel and haven't had one in 14 years