Film Theory: The Disney Princess Problem (Wreck It Ralph 2)
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The Wreck-It Ralph 2 trailer Disney Princess scene sparked a question for me. What QUANTIFIES a Disney Princess? Capital D. Capital P. Depending on where you look, you find a LOT of differing opinions. Today Theorists, I aim to figure out what the rules are to being a TRUE Disney Princess!
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*I'd like too see a princess pull off green*
Tiana: Am I a joke to you
But she didn't pull it off
@@SmolJam3 ;-;
she looks fucking amazing
JarlMeskaNegs yes she did
JarlMeskaNegs Subjective
Other Disney princesses: we all worked hard to get here
Arora: I sleep
Snowhite: Me housewife
me sleep too, am I a Disney princess?
@@paralumein yeh
@@exeecob3488 omg
@@paralumein welcpme to tue the club I also. Sleep
I’d love to see an update considering Moana is an official Princess now
So are elsa and anna.
@@imnotanerd They aren't apart of the official Disney Princess franchise. They are in their own franchise because Frozen as a brand did TOO good to be combined with the other princesses. (Also this could of course be semantics but Elsa is a queen, not a princess)
@@k.laborin-pearl actually they are on the website that he mentioned so they are classified as disney princesses by disney themselves.
@@alexandermcadams3845 They are classified as a separate franchise because of how well the brand did in its own
He explains this in his video
@@k.laborin-pearl according to frozen 2 Elsa is a princess she makes Anna queen
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It's nice that since this was released 3 more have been added to the lineup. Moana, Elsa and Anna are now listed on the official website as princesses
Not sure how Elsa can be a princess, we literally saw her coronation in the first 10 or so minutes of Frozen where she is QUEEN or Arendelle. I bet it's just because they don't want to have their cash cow in the same ranks of Evil Queen.
@@catholiccontriversy I think in the second movie Anna becomes Queen of Arendelle and Elsa downgrades into a princess and stays in the Enchanted Forest or whatever the name of that is.
@@catholiccontriversy So both of them were/are princesses, it just depends on what movie.
Anna and Elsa are honorary princesses. They are branded differently even when packaged in the lineup. They are a separate franchise.
mattpat never truly wanted to be a Theorist he wanted to be a princess
The film princess
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flame master lol
*BUT THATS JUST A THEORY*
*A FILM THEORY*
@@yustukii2861 A "BUT MOM I WANNA BE A PRINCESS" THEORY
Mulan may not be a princess, might just be a commoner, but the EMPEROR of China bowed to her. Keep in mind the Emperor was revered as almost a deity. Pretty impressive.
maybe BC shes a war hero?
Also in Mulan 2, Mulan is stated as more valuable than 3 princesses.
What isn't Moana in the movie even after he says sunglass
@@bluediamond3445 Doesn't she count as a princess since she's the daughter of the tribe leader?
A tribe leader is NOT a king
Man, Disney has covered so many regional stories, makes me wonder when and if they’re going to make a Japanese princess or Russian heroine story to a similar effect as the other princess/heroine films?
Remove the e from heroine
@@mip5944 of what? 😂
Japanese idk but for Russia there is already Anastasia
@@alienmou9286 literally only because they relatively recently bought the company and all it’s previous property that originally made Anastasia. 😂
Oh yeah, kinda weird they didn’t cover a Japanese damsel… I mean the idea of princess is a big problem, but if someone as random as Mulan could be one, there’s no reason you can’t make someone like Kaguya a princess(seriously a girl from the moon is a lot of fun to begin with)
10:28 I personally think Anna and Elsa aren't part of The Disney Princess Franchise because Frozen evolved into its own franchise.
For curiosity's sake, I googled to see if there was a reason Esmeralda wasn't a Disney Princess and found the most interesting thing on Disney Princess Wiki. Turns out, she was a Disney Princess until 2004. They removed her from the franchise for two main reasons: First, her sales were financially disappointing. Second, like you said here, she deals with more mature themes than other Disney Princesses that made it hard to market her to younger kids.
What a great message by Disney…everyone can be a princess! Unless you’re poor
Fun fact: tinker bell was originally a Disney princess BUT she had her membership revoked.
It was revoked because her own movies were so successful that they spawned their own franchise all together, the Disney Fairies franchise.
@@user-jp6zl5yd1h I legitimately forgot that.
Awe. She would've been a cool addition. Would her magic/spirituality technically make her royal or not?🤔🤔
One of the criteria of being a Disney princess, in my opinion, is having the female protagonist go through the Women's Hero's Journey.
(I'll explain what that is if you're curious😊😊).
Why isn't Fiona in the group of Princesses?
@@marshmallowvampire8503, Fiona from Shrek? That's a Dreamworks movie. Unless you're talking about a different one. 🧐
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Why can't Matpat not just go for going as a Disney prince?
The concern over "cultural sensitivity" certainly hasn't stopped them churning out Moana costumes regardless.
Personally, the "princess" means a woman who is on a much higher level of authority than most. Many actually royalty one the daughter of a cheif, ya know, the guy in power, and one a war hero, who even the emperor bows down to
The actual requirements are:
1.born royal
2.married to royal
3.done a heroic deed
And the unspoken rule: BOX OFFICE SUCCESS
Lmao no. Mulan wasn't born royal and also isn't married to a royal yet she's still classified as an official Disney Princess
jemadel did u not see “done heroic deed” she saved China, shes given an award for literally that at the end of the movie. They made the rule just for her
That has been the list I've seen too. But where does that leave Elsa and Anna? Both fit the first one.
Josefine Nielsen the Supercarlinbrothers (i think thats their youtube name) have a bunch of videos about the list but basically Ana and Elsa were going to be princesses BUT they became to Big that they became their own franchise as it would make disney more money to sell a shit ton of Frozen merch instead of just Elsa and Ana Disney Princess Merch
yeeeeeeeees. As a long time SCB fan I was just waiting and waiting for him to mention the real requirements or give J and Ben a bit of credit for all their disney princess work, but it never happened and I'm so sad. also, when SCB did a vid on why moana wasn't an official disney princess I was just screaming at my screen about the whole dress thing.
So are we gonna ignore how those princesses almost became murderers when Penelope came in
Tru I now realized that
Its actually Vanellope not Penelope but ur right the other princeses almost killed vanellope
Mulan is already a murderer.
@@PrincessLioness mulan* but yeah
Laughs in Mulan
Legit the second before you mentioned Jasmine with the "must wear a dress" rule, I was like, "Well what about Jasmine?"
The ironic part about this is that NOW Disney decides to put Moana in the list. Well played Disney, well played
Moana actually became one now she’s included on the official site
Matpat bullied them into submission XD
Crimson Fox is the one from brave a princess? Is Pocahontas? No no they are not.
@Crimson Fox In Frozen 2 Elsa is no longer a queen and Anna is.
And she's in the scene in the video. Go to 2:10 to see her near middle-left
Crimson Fox is mulan an actual princess?
- A young woman
- Has daddy issues
- Kidnapped or enslaved
- Animals and trees talk to her
- Has to get saved by 'a big, strong man'
- From a Disney property
I was right. Gamora IS a Disney Princess.
Bruh
Isn’t she dead tho?
@@Bridget-sy3zt She came back. And anyway, Snow White was dead, technically.
DAN DAN DAAAAAANNNNNN!
HAH!!
As a Scottish person I find the way he says Merida absolutely hilarious
Just clicked to rewatch this video after a while... It couldn't escape my attention that you FINALLY reached your goal of getting the diamond paperweight. Congrats Matthew!
MatPat: "Merida doesn't sing"
Flashback of Merida and Mom singing Noble Maiden Fair: "Am I a joke to you?
And when she sings “touch the sky”
@@rachelcookie321 It was a background song.
@@sebastiancherubagent7986 still a song
I read Merida doesn’t sing exactly when Matpat said it
@@Boyakishan Bu it wasn't her singing.
“Jasmine? Dress and Rajah the tiger.”
If baggy pants and a crop top are a dress now then I think Moana’s skirt should count too.
I know right
but it's all a theory, A FILM THEORY!
its not a skirt i would know i am a pacific islander its called a Tah-eh
Moana is an official princess now so I guess you're right
And let's not forget how almost no one in the Middle East ever wears that outfit anymore for hundreds of years. The closest you could find are................the women who work in illegal brothels.
You completely forgot about princess “kida” from the movie Atlantis in THIS video but you did mention her in the second so it’s cool.
Though honestly, I think a lot of people forget about that movie. Guess it wasn’t popular enough to make the cut.
To be honest, all this time, I thought qualifying as a Disney princess revolved more around popularity.
The more fans love a character, the more money they make Disney, and the title of princess is passed on.
But again there still lies the question of why newer princesses aren’t on that list.
Also another thing worth mentioning is in the game kingdom hearts,
They have what they call “princesses of heart” and for some reason “Alice” from Alice in wonderland fell under the princess list even though she isn’t a princess.
Also, in 2019, Moana got her coronation as the twelfth official Disney Princess.
It's funny cause Mulan is the one girl on that list who isn't related to royalty in ANY way and thus isn't a princess In ANY way at all.
She's just the most notorious killer in the disney lineup.
we WILL note that Mulan is clearly NOT a commoner! She's obviously the sole daughter of a RATHER noteworthy noble household; one which has their own land and walled compound with gardens and the like. While it DOESN'T seem like her family has SERVANTS they certainly live better than what would be the common household style at the time. The fact that they have a Horse capable and trained for war is PARTICULARLY telling, as this would have been an EXCESSIVE expenditure both to get AND to stable. She's just VERY obviously a LESSER noble, probably one that has risen through action in war rather than economy. REGARDLESS, the fact that Mulan has an appointment with a matchmaker AT ALL implies heavily that her family is at least well to do enough to arrange such an appointment. The fact that they use silk gowns and the like in this scene is ALSO a big indicator that they aren't simple folk!
Matchmakers, you see, were for the nobility. The poor didn't care about that kinda shit.
We will note. Jasmine is SPECIFICALLY wearing pants in her movie. They're poofy, sure, but it's definitely not a dress... at least most of the time.
@@tankou001 we WILL also note she married a Captian in the Chinese Army who was the SON of an Affluent GENERAL who died so he most likely received the LAND, WEALTH, and STATUS of his FATHER, maybe or maybe not the rank though
@@qthedisaster1730 this certainly WOULD raise Mulan to heightened nobility and probably grant the rest of her family a social boost, as was common at the time. However, we SHOULD be looking at Mulan at the beginning of her own first movie. One way or the other; having a walled family compound, a horse fit for war, proper armor and good steel, being able and inclined to afford a matchmaker, owning silk dresses for said appointments and her father being a publicly known and reputed figure known by conscription officers for his performance in War already... All this points very clearly to the fact that she's NOT a commoner. The list would prolly go on the longer we look.
It does depend on what they do though. Be royal, marry royal, or perform an act of heroism. They have to do at least one of the three. Disney said it themselves. This whole video seems kind of pointless to me tbh
In 2019, there are officially 12 princesses.
I was just on the Disney Princess site today, and Moana is included on the list.
Wait there’s always been 13 who isn’t included
@@lenahehe565 No. There wasn't always 13.
@Random HQ Switch How so?
El Boogie Moana was in the movie
@@jocelynlopez3347 didn't say she wasn't
Vanellope Von Sweet is actually revealed as a Queen in the end of the first Wreck it Ralph movie.
ALSO THE DISNEY MOVIE POCAHONTAS IS NOTHING LIKE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO HER IN REAL LIFE!!
9:20 I had never heard Merida's English voice actor before and I was not prepared
(I mean I should have guessed but the voice hit me like a truck)
I think you forgot something
You have to be a girl
lol agreed
Nowadays, everything is possible.
That's true
W H E A T So TRUE
*You can be whatever you want to be if you dream hard enough.*
The way he pronounces “Merida” physically hurts me 😂
me too XD
I would like the comment....but it’s too perfect
Medida
That’s how you say it
That's how you'd actually say her name given a Scottish/Gaelic accent.
I'm in the future. September 2023 to be exact. And Moana and Raya have been added as Disney Princesses!
Watching this now and knowing that Disney actually added moana to the list on their website is just hilarious, since moana is the person you are using as the "in or out" example.
Mat: She clearly has Hei-Hei the rooster!
Pua: *Am I a joke to you?*
With so few minutes of total screentime, Pua is a joke.
Pua is her brother
No puma. Your not. It's just you where barely in the movie. Plus your Moana's brother. (That's what I like to belive)
Pua is her brother.
hei-hei was better
Mat, THIS is why you never get invited to Disney/Marvel premiers
🤣🤣hahahaha
Disney Employee:Should we invite this theorist?
Head:Who is it?
DE:MatPat
Head: *no*
My thought of the classification of Disney Princess before your video:
Based on a fairy tale or a legend
-Exception: Merida
Created by Disney Studio
-Exception: Merida
Has a man in their life
-Exception: Merida
Sing a song
-Exception: Merida
Absolutely love your content, your efforts in research and ability to entertain while educating are excellent. My wife is a math teacher and I have encouraged her to use your videos to interest kids in fun uses of math. Huge fan can’t wait to see your next video!
he has many, many more and i could not agree with you more! he's incredibly entertaining and informative
Thanos is the best princess
Change my mind
Random kid down the street
*uses the mind stone
Thanos is the best chin
Random kid down the street I just choked IM-
yes thanos is the best
Why would I? Thanos' musical number riding his pet unicorn at the end was so snappy and energetic ;)
My favorite scene was 0:18
*Wish me luck ladies*
_Jack Sparrow_
*_LOL_* I should've guessed he'd apply for the next Disney princess.
He's definitely got the hair for it
Ivelina Angelova CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow
I watched reck it ralf breaks the internet and elsa and moana is in it
@CaptainM Yep, CAPTAIN JACK SPARROW, you got that right
Dang it. He forgot his animal.
I love this video because now all of the newer characters he mentioned have been coronated so now he's just going crazy why they haven't gotten their crown and digging so deep to husk together an answer.
Fun fact : in 2019 moana became official Disney Princess
MatPat the way to become a Disney princess is to be:
1. Must be human
2. Lead in an animated Disney movie
3. And not be introduced in a sequel
And then at least one of the following:
1. Born royal
2. Marry royal
3. Or an act of heroism (this rule was made for Mulan)
They also must be successful at the box office, but not to successfully like Anna and Elsa
It is all explained in the SuperCarlinBrothers video.
Hey brother...
Giselle though is a weird case cause she’s denied because otherwise they have to pay royalties for Amy Adams likeness.
Hey brother!!!
Also too*
Courtney hey brother
And this all started with MatPat not being accepted as a Disney Princess.
Edit: Thanks for the likes 👌🏼
Nice
That's a rue
MatPat always gets his revenge!
Jmvesy: lol to true
Princesses are female. It is pretty obvious why he doesn't qualify.
The opening scenes in all of these videos are amazing
Captain Jack Sparrow absolutely deserves to be a princess, he may not have a dress or an animal sidekick. But, he has a jar of dirt!
Emperor Kuzco is best disney princess
Remanje Carter omg yes
Remanje Carter YES
Remanje Carter definitively
Blake NORRIS shrek isn't a princess
He is a god
Yes
Just realized MatPat qualifies.
1: Is wearing a dress
2: Phycic friend Fredbear is his animal sidekick.
Daniel Chung That joke is awesome! Teach ne your ways
He's here, he's there, he's everywhere! Who you gonna call? Physic friend FredddddBearrrrrr.
Geneva Simpson-Pena lol! Lol! Lol! 😂😂😂
Daniel Chung thats not enough to qualify
Daniel Chung
Psychic lol
what's funny is the actual reason why the frozen princesses and moana weren't immediately added was because they made way *too much* money on their own. disney waited until it would financially benefit the properties to add them to the disney princess lineup.
i know im 3 years late to this but has anyone ever thought about moanas name problem being the reason she's not in the official lineup?
as you might know... moana is called vaiana in pretty much all of europe because apparently there is a italian adult movie actress called moana something who reached a stage of fame where her sheer existence was too heavy to name a disney movie moana. she or her relatives also seem to hold some copyright stuff tied to the name...
now if disney added moana to the official princess roster they would have to produce all the stuff twice (website merchandise games whatever ) and thats not even counting the countries that have a different alphabet compared to good ol english...
i'm guessing it was enough work already to change the movie all the songs and all the promotional stuff for the movie itself.
its a shame that one of the most modern and independent disney princesses is not represented enough no matter what the actual reason is ...
done, rant over
Disney's official criteria:
1) Human character in an animated Disney movie
2) Not introduced in a sequel
3) Born royal, married royal, or completes an act of heroism
Lastly, box office performance is considered. Notice I said performance and not success. The real reason Anna, Elsa, and Moana are not in the line up is because they do better as their own franchises and Disney would lose financial opportunity on them if they put them with the Disney princess line up. When princess start to lose popularity, they go in the line up to keep them relevant.
Nikki Mirhosseyni This, and also by MattPatt’s own definition, Jasmine DOESNT count, because she never wears a dress. She wears pants in every outfit. But yes, there is already a set criteria released to find. It’s not a secret. www.hercampus.com/school/illinois-state/how-become-official-disney-princess
Hannahtheseal
She’s born royal.
Nikki Mirhosseyni By that logic Meg should be included. She fits the first two criteria and she died to save the one she loves.
And since Zeus was the “King Of Gods” Hercules should technically be the Prince. So if they married she’d be marrying royalty.
Dr Ukato because Hercules was considered as a movie mostly aimed at boys, Meg isn't a disney princess, that's the same reason Jane from Tarzan isn't a princess either
Aladdin did better than Hercules by 400 billion, I think it's safe to say box office.
"Why do you have such dumb rules"
Diseny: money
You cant just always say they are greedy.
Theyre also just stupid.
Think about Mulan - that one did not make much profit, did it?
And that one's just an example.
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@@slevinchannel7589 Mulan is really loved by the asian community without her there would be no asian so a lack of representation 😕
@@randyranda8881 If you talk about the Cartoon, youre absolutely right.
If you talk about the 2020 Version, then youre objectively wrong and you show yourself to be rather uneducated and uninformed.
@@randyranda8881 If you talk about the Cartoon, youre absolutely right.
If you talk about the 2020 Version, then youre objectively wrong and you show yourself to be rather uneducated and uninformed.
The fact that there are 175000 likes and zero dislikes is impressive. This might be the video on CZcams with the most likes for a video with no dislikes (and as it has no dislikes, it has the smallest ratio of dislikes to likes of any video on CZcams). Well done, MatPat.
Mat literally ignored the clips he’s showing had Anna and Elsa in the background and the clip with Elsa speaking
Does This Mean
Mama Imelda
From Coco Is A Disney Princess?
1. She Wears A Dress
2. She Has A Alebrije (Pepita)
💀🍂💀🍂💀🍂💀🍂💀🍂
Summer Porter oml ur right! 😂😅
Oh JESUS
No..... Mama Imelda is a QUEEN
Gabby H 😂🤣
She's from the other studio
5:01
Poor goofy..
*he just wanted to be a Disney princess*
Edit: thank you! This is the first time i get more then 5 likes in a comment ;-;
I was searching the comments for this post! Thank you!
@@snowyfrost7825 np, XD
oof
could be worse, he could be WaLuigi
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13:25 --- Yet another list that STILL ignores KIDA from Atlantis: The Lost Empire. Forever my favorite.
Hi mat pat. I love ur videos and have been watching them for a few years now. I am subscribed to all 3 channels and just wanted to say please never stop
Mulan is not a princess but she is definitely not a commoner. Her father is a famous war hero, she lives in a large house with gardens, and is the only low ranking soldier who owns a horse. Anyone else with a horse is a general or high ranking official. Mulan may not be royalty but she definitely has a privileged background. Considering her father's fame it is likely that he was gifted a lot of land and money for his deeds so she falls into the noble class. It's not a true qualification but considering how poor people were in those times, being a noble practically made you royalty.
Well according to the OFFICIAL rules put out by Disney, Mulan fits in to a category they added originally just for her, That you can be classified as a disney princess if you perform an act of heroism.
Melo Smart....honestly that's a big theory
It’s Disney. No room for logic here.
Melo, I'd also point out that she was honored by the Emperor of China. That's bigger than being a noble in any fashion, people weren't allowed to lay eyes on the Emperor at certain points in history. Him not only allowing you to stand in his presence, but legitly honoring you as subject of his realm. Is actually really big culturally at that time.
Even if she were royalty, she still wouldn't be a princess. You can be royalty without being a prince or princess, and only the Emperor's daughters fall into the category of being a true princess. You're being pedantic.
Credit to SCB, this is the list:
Born Royal, marry royal, or commit an act of heroism.
Be human.
Don't have a movie that fails in the box office. (Black Cauldron)
Don't have a movie that was so successful that Disney makes more money by selling toys separately instead of including them in Disney princess sets. (Frozen)
I don't remember what the case was for Moana.
There is no case for Moana, the movie was pretty good
They also can’t be added in a sequel movie
Vincent Moore Actually, no. That's a common mistake people make with that rule. You can *be in a sequel* you just can't be *INTRODUCED* in a sequel. Ariel's daughter made her debut in the Little Mermaid 2, and thus does not qualify to be a Disney Princess.
Moana was considered too successful, like Frozen, and has her own toy line.
i was wondering if someone here was from SCB. also "Great act of heroism." little thing maybe but still wanted to mention. Disney added that specifically so mulan could be part of the princesses.
Have you ever done a theory about the movie Brave? I decided to watch it after you mentioned it in this video and it makes no sense lol. I’m not sure what kind of theory you could even do about it (which is probably why you haven’t) but I definitely think you could solve some of the unanswered questions in the movie. Like the fact that the movie had nothing to do with the girl being brave, in fact she cowered just like everyone else whenever she seen a random bear (why is the movie called brave???) or the fact that the words the witch told her to remember seemed kind of useless as Merida didn’t actually remember the whole thing and just focused on one small part of it and convinced herself that she had to fix the blanket she ripped to fix the curse. So, it really wasn’t that important that she remembered those words because she didn’t and the curse was still removed anyways lol.
Knowing the "rules" Disney has for qualifying to be a princess already really made me feel like a Disney adult 😵
Technically Disney also counts instead of being technically"Royal"and in replace you can do a significant amount of heroism
Then what about Eilonwy ?
She is a princess of llyr and and rescues Taran from the dungeon of the horned King
Hello
like mulan
Bohlwinkel I know I'm a little bit late but to answer your question the movie also has to be a success at the box office
@@headofcosmospictures1232 not famous enough
It's real cute how you're saying "Merida". I think you're trying to stay true to our Scottish inflection but you're making it sound like a Japanese name 😂
Yeah lmao
Yea but the accent was good.
Meta duh
Merida isn’t even a Scottish name and it annoys me so much. It’s an Irish name. It’s like Pixar just googled “Gaelic girl names” and picked one at random.
Bruh I am Scottish
0:44
Yeah u should've blurred those naughty symbols
Man, i really love this theory!
Kuzco from Emperor's New Groove is best princess
Bysentenial and he qualifies:
Wearing a dress? Well, it's a one piece that covers the body from head to toe.
Animal? He IS the animal.
Bysentenial IT'S A TRAP
MultiTarded
Haha! F***ing what?
did you watch the first part? i was thinking all the way through him calling them ungrateful "he's going to have hell to face on twitter"
He's a prince not a princess
Disney actually has a specific set of rules as to what qualifies a female character as an official Disney Princess.
1. They must have a primary role in an animated Disney (including Pixar) movie
2. They must be human/become a human
3. They must be born royal, marry royal, of perform a significant act of heroism
4. They must not be introduced in a sequel
The secret hidden rule is box office success which why you don't see characters like Esmeralda, Megara, or Kida on the list since their movies didn't do as well as others. Esmeralda and Tinker Bell actually used to be included in the Disney Princess lineup, but were removed because Disney executives decided that they didn't fit anymore. This is presumably because Tinker Bell was now part of the Disney Fairies franchise, and Hunchback was probably eventually considered too serious of a movie to be marketed at children, hence Esmeralda's removal.
There's also the second part of the "be successful" rule, which is "don't be _too_ successful." If you're too profitable as a separate property, as _Frozen_ is, you're not going to be added into the official Disney Princesses line.
SuperCarlinBrothers state this as the "official" criteria but show no sources for this criteria.
Except Moana fits all of those. Main character in her movie, is human, counts as royal (chieftain's daughter) and does a significant act of heroism, and is in the first film.
And it was a box office success.
I think there is a rule 5. If the merch of the brand of the movie it comes still is selling, they cannot be a princess. Frozen merch is still doing crazy good and would eat their own market if they release a frozen brand doll and a disney princess brand doll. Moana has this issue too their merch sells off very well people still want them but making 2 different brands of merch of the same thing wouldn't work for their market.
Except Cinderella and Mulan had sequels. With Cinderella her sequel being Cinderella III which continues off from the first Cinderella
okay but i think its a crime that donald duck isnt considered an official disney princess
FRRRRRRRR
I’m pretty sure Disney just wanted to include multiple colours and also wanted to add girls that a lot of people recongnise are popular and again multiple characters as it looks like Disney doesn’t exclude
It’s a common thing that big companies always pick different people of different sexuality culture and colour just to look less exclusive they specifically search for these things so people won’t think they are inclusive racist or etc
MatPat: Merida doesn't sing
Me: Correction. She sang with her mother in the flashback as a child.
She sang when she was younger. Throughout the rest of the movie, she doesn't sing, so that's why he said she doesn't.
Im pretty sure that song is meant to be her when she sings to go to the mountains if thats true then she sings three times
Lol
She also has the song “touch the sky”
All children love singing when they’re little! Like nursery rhymes. I think he meant more like a break into song and dance type of thing, ya know :)
Obviously pumba from the lion king is my favourite and the best disney princess
nah, its Simba, he is teh best disney Prince...ss?
Gabe Hodge *p u m b e s s*
UM NO SWEATY IT'S KUZCO
Deadpool. Not technically remotely Disney princess material , but he keeps showing up and they can;t really make him leave.
Mattpatt is gayish
Him talking about the dress part of this made me realize something. Jasmine isnt wearing a dress (at least not in the pictures she's usually portrayed in). The teal outfit shes most popularly seen in, is a top and pants.
9:51 HAS ME ON THE FLOOR CACKLING
Mulan is technically higher than a prince. The emperor bowed down to her and an emperor has equal power to a king. Also there are actually a rule set for the qualifications to be a Disney princess. One of them is you either have to be married to royalty be born into royalty or have done a grand act of courage that qualifies you has a princess.
(This isn't to hate on matpat I actually like his content)
Satan_daughter 25 mylan would be the equvalent of a knight
Speaking from a scholarly perspective, Mulan didn't gain any titles just because the emperor bowed to her. It was an honor, yes, but she didn't get a title and therefore doesn't outrank any imperial progeny. The children of emperors aren't automatically named a prince or princess, they get those titles gifted to them. King titles are a little different. Being named King of Wei doesn't mean you rank at the same level as the emperor, as a matter of fact, you still have guys like the Imperial Counselor and Grand Tutor to get through before you even get close to that kind of ministerial power.
Courtney Muehl yeah sorry your wrong
Mulan would be the equivalent of a knight this is shown in the second movie
While Mulan would be a knight the rest is true. One of the official qualifications for a Disney princess is to be born or married royal or commit an act of heroism, a category specifically added for Mulan.
Receiving the respect of an emperor does not grant one titles mate
Whats the difference between Wreck It Ralph 2 (Ralph Wrecks The Internet) and The Emoji Movie?
Merida Adorable Accent and Star War
One word: effort. Disney puts effort into these movies. Sony clearly just rushed a movie out with whatever they thought young kids would be into.
BlackScape the shitty part is that the name is "Ralph breaks" instead of Ralph wrecks
SssssssssSCOTLAND LADDIE
BlackScape also product placement
solid storytelling
everyone else: did you do
aurora: did you sleep
The intro was beyond amazing
Yeah there are official rules to being a Disney Princess.
1) Being born royal or marrying into royalty
2) Act of heroism (just in case you aren't royal)
3) Box office success
Hercules, despite having its fans, didn't do very well intitially, as with all the other movies with otherwise qualifying princesses.
With Anna, Elsa and Moana, you'd expect them to qualify in all ways, and they do, apart from one minor problem. They are *too* successful. The movies are more their own franchises than your average, run-of-the-mill princess movies.
Credit to *Super Carlin Brothers* for making a video on this
also you have to be a human. ARIALLLLLL
Was about to post it
But she became human via magiccccccc so she counts apparently
Mulan isn't a commoner. Her home suggest of a higher rank. Usually more Noble laddies would be looking for a match maker to find a good match which would include a consideration of class. In the ballad of Mulan, it also infers she's from a higher class along with other adaptions of the story.
In some adaptations she was the daughter to a farmer (Farmers were treated VERY well back then) and in others it's of a famous war hero (THE Fa Zhou), at any rate, her family is well off but not nobility.
She was called to the emperors palace in order to become his concubine. Would being part of a harem be considered as being noble?
Stop nit-picking. Ain't got nothin' to do with royalty any way you cut it. FT's 100% right. IT DA MONEY.
yeah but does it count if it's not canon in the movie?
I have to wonder how what the implications of the Emperor of all China and even a large crowd of people bowing to her would have irl.
Would it effect the theory, eh maybe, maybe not. I'm more interested on real life's implications.
SuperCarlinBrothers does a really interesting and explanatory vid on this topic.
*matpat not being able to be a disney princess cuz he doesnt have an animal sidekick*
cat pat: _allow me to introduce myself_
I''m sorry you didn't make it as a princess Matt =(
The reason pocahontas and mulan are princesses is because they did acts of heroism. There is an actual list in existence. The super Carlin brothers did a video. The reason anna and elsa are out is cause of money. They made WAY more money so they got their own franchise so you pay more for them separate from the others.
So glad this is just a theory
Tim Westphal EXACTLY i was yelling this the entire time - “The SuperCarlinBrothers covered this like 3 years ago!!!”
Tim Westphal Pocahontas fits into the "born royal" category as well because her father is the chief.
MatPat raised this point in the video? If acts of heroism are a qualifier, then Moana should qualify.
MatPat needs to watch the videos by them.
I guess she isn't included just because she says in her movie that she isn't a princess...
2:30 If matpat said that 4 years later, twitter would CRUCIFY him.
9:40 merida duets “a noble maiden fair” with her mother in a flashback towards the end of the movie. Its literally the sweetest moment ever and i really wish the two re-dueted that in the climax it would have been heartbreaking .
2019 Elsa and Anna gets a lizard they’re now qualified
#LetItSnowPrincesses2020
Yup on frozen 2
@@blovedd sven is for kris
@@blovedd how is that relevant?
Quiltia the alpha hybrid, lol
You could've been a Disney Princess, Matpat, if you'd just brought Skip along with you.
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Going by this logic, true
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No, it’s peepachu he should bring
I remember playing Disney Princess games. Every princess had pets. Cinderella had a bunny with a light blue tint. I think Ariel had a pink something or other. But they were all “at home” pets. It’s interesting to consider the “dress and animal” qualifications
You had it right at 8:53 it is definitely the box office performance. It's profitability of merchandising. The reason Moana didn't make the cut and Frozen girls still don't is simply because their own franchise was/is still making too much money to be passed over to Disney Princess yet. "One year after movie" has probably been a convenient round time to be doing it since that puts the newly coronated princess into the Disney Princess lineup just in time for holidays, but Moana didn't get retired to DP for multiple years because her franchise was still profiting and they didn't want to muddy her profitability by making her a DP too soon. Anna and Elsa have done insanely well, and I suspect having TWO of them has really helped the franchise as well, now you need TWO dolls, two costumes, two calculator watches, etc. But when the Frozen franchise stops making a better return on investment than DP, they will become DP too. All Disney animated female protagonists will, they're designed with that taken into consideration from the outset now.
So I've been with the Disney company for about 5 years so maybe I can add some insight? so frozen and Moana wont be in the Disney princess line up simply because their franchises make too much money as stand alone. Mulan is a princess because she did an act or selfless bravery and Disney changed the rules so she could be added. Also if the movie didn't do well in theater they princess wouldn't be added (sword in the stone, black cauldron, Atlantis ECT) should also be noted tinker bell was also a Disney princess at one point before they made the Disney fairies.hope this helps
I personally thought Atlantis was good
you're not alone. Atlantis was great and has a decent cult following.
Amber Williams what made interesting for me (watching it in it's entirety as an adult) i understood it better and realized it's like they flipped the script on Tarzan. It didn't hurt the movie i don't think but you can tell kids didn't gravitate to it much because it was more serious and the color scheme reflected that
Jay did a video about this on the Supercarlin Brothers and he pointed this out too lol. It’s really good
Tho Nguyen oh i didn't know they made a vid on it... I'll check it out. Thanks 👌
The actual criteria is
-Must be a main female character in an animated Disney movie.(pixar does count)
-Either be born royal, marry royal, or commit an act of heroism.
-Box office does matter, but Moana and Anna/Elsa outshine all the other movies because they made too much money.
Also no the SuperCarlinBrothers already figured out that Venelope probably will not be a Disney princess.
Edit: You must also be human.
Yes i was looking for something like this
Think I remember the SCBs pointing to Oscar nominations too, but may not be remembering correctly there.
Isn't one of the rules "Must be human" too? Which is why no animal character (Like Nala) has made the cut.
I remember seeing that somewhere.
And then Venelope ends up being one anyway, cause fuck us
horse14t yes it is. Thanks for reminding me that that was a rule.
One reason I can give to assure that Mulan can qualify as a Disney princess thanks to rapunzel “do people assume all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up” and Mulan falls to the category so that is why she got qualified
Moana got added!! You go Matt!
There are actually official rules to be a Disney princess. They come in like sets.
Set 1
You must
- have a primary role in a fully animated film
- be human
- not be introduced in a sequel
Set 2
You must either
- be born royal
- marry royal
- or commit an act of true bravery
Set 3
You must
- wear a marketable dress
- have a cute animal sidekick
Oh, and you need to be a box office success.
SuperCarlinBrothers covered a video on it
Moana was so close lmao The marketable dress caught her
O o f matpat
Trisha Reddy yes!
Trisha Reddy a lot of them have sequels, but most aren’t that good so you don’t hear about them.
Disney probs watched this and was like:
Oh shoot Moana
She’s now on the list
Lol
MattPat didn't notice ANNA AND ELSA are right in the trailer 1:58 Elsa even speaks!
Edit: MOANA TOO 💀
Elsa was a Queen before giving up her right to the throne. Therefore making Anna Queen. That’s why they aren’t counted. As for Moana, she was made an official Disney Princess in 2019. Box Office numbers, and Heroic acts (e.g. Mulan) do factor into it.
Super Carlin Brothers (btw you guys should collaborate sometime) have determined the requirements to become a Disney Princess. I recommend visiting their theory channel. Just saying…
I love how Captain Jack Sparrow was one of the “ladies” at the beginning
I was gonna comment that!
Johnny depp = g@y ???
@@limit9020 idk
@@limit9020 NO
RedButUniqueBoy no just no
Merida has two songs in her movie, sung by herself, although she is not moving her lips, it's like she is singing them in her head or telling her story from another point of view adding the song, like her voiceover at the beginning and end of the movie suggest... Also the Merida Singing Dolls actually sing Touch the Sky.
Could you do a theory on Klaus for December 2022? It's a really good movie with amazing characters and I think there'll be theories galore to find
I love all of your videos you are going to be the next generation of my life. thank you