FIXING A 1900's STEAM HAMMER! Pt. 11
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"I've put me shaft on the table, I've given it a good clean and now we need to talk about the stuffing box" - Alec, ~2024
Also "the gland packing" lmao
I was gonna do the same thing lmao. Glad im not the only one who thought it could be taken out of context very easily lol
I'm not the only one to notice this latest addition to "Alec Steele: Out of context"
12:54 for anyone interested
I wonder if he did it on purpose.
12:54 "I've put my shaft on the table, I've given it a good clean and now we need to talk about the stuffing box - the gland packing"
I was wondering if anyone else got a chuckle out of that 🤣
Alec just summarized his whole channel in one phrase: "it was more of a journey than it should have been." 😂
and this is why we keep tuning in. lol
@@CNC-Time-Lapse absolutely! And to hear Alec call himself a machinist whilst making horrors that make machinists cry 😂
Can we get a 20 part sword series like the old days? Using the new rebuilt power hammer.
That would be amazing
Yes please
I wish it was all in one sitting these videos are too short for me.
"Nooooooo.. is this level of stupidity curable?"
😂😂😂😂
This phrase needs to be on a T-shirt!
@@anglerseawolf9919bthis needs to be one of his t shirts
I really felt that comment haha. I'm going to put it up as a sign in my workshop
"You can't fix stupid" -Ron White
As a machinist, when your lathe does not have the compund travel length for making a taper, and you also want a clean cut made by the automatic feed, the process is actually relatively simple. You just offset your support by half the length needed to get the angle of the taper. (You turn just one side to make the full taper after all) You use the same part of the support to do that as you would when setting in on the axis. But if thats too much work on your lahe, you also can just get an insert that can be slid off center.
I would think a machinist would call it the tailstock.
Every machinist I've known over the last 40 years did.
@@TEDodd English might not be their first language.
@@simonholmqvist8017 the rest of the post suggests a good command of English. A quick check of the user name reveals he is German. Reitstock is the German word and easily translated. I checked both before my earlier comment.
@@TEDodd Colloquialism.
@@arkonwolves7192 What is, tailstock? No, that's it's rightful name. And the bit with the chuck is called the headstock.
In today's episode, Alec learns about inclusive angles (the sum angle over two planes or axes).
Exclusive angles are angles taken to a datum plane or datum axis, e.g. the center of a lathe.
Datum? He just met 'em!
*LITERALLY SHOUTING AT THE SCREEN* "halve the angle....!!!"
The oscillation of the pin that was in there is likely what caused the inner shaft to be off like that. From the pice you showed, it pulls it up and down in a "circle" or oscillating shape.
when he said "how did it get so ovular" my first thought was "well probably because the previous owner's replacement pin wasnt tapered or pinned and could do whatever it wanted"
It's really cool seeing people restoring old machines like these. And you learn how it works. Keep it up
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Not free, paid with taxes.
And you might want help now not months from now.
Even here where the NHS isn't at play getting an appointment can take weeks once you find someone accepting new patients (most are booked solid with existing patients).
@TEDodd spent the last 22 years of my life in the mental health services here in the uk in some capacity. Be it primary care or secondary from basic therapy to being sectioned for a lengthy stay. I'm really rather aware of all of that . Although I'm not sure national insurance contributions can be called a tax but tbf that's above me anyway .
I've also had paid therapy privately and what was worrying there is it turned out to just be nhs staff as one i met told me they did both
@@davesmith7671How nice that you were able to access treatment. That's far from a universal experience on the NHS, and you probably benefitted from being grandfathered in after coming to the attention of mental health services before the Tories devastated the whole state.
Your experience is not the default.
@@davesmith7671whether the individual you see also works with NHS is irrelevant. It's about time. Pay more to get service today or less and wait.
That is the main reason people would pay for a service they might have available at no extra cost.
I;ve read many accounts of people paying for services outside NHS because of the delays in getting services through the NHS. From simple diagnostic procedures like CT and MRI to major surgery and chemotherapy.
I recieved my 5 nails 😀 They ended up costing me $60 because of customs. They are now on display.
please make sure that the flange that packs the rope is not to tight. If it is to tight the graphite rope will burn very fast. I would recomend to repack the cylinder. You should flatten the rope with a hammer. The flange will expand the rope when you thighten it.
Really liking this series. Every time a video appears i make time for it.
Ps, as others have said, maybe steer clear of betterhelp as a sponsor.
Betterhelp, for when you want help from a "qualified" professional AND for them to sell your personal data. It's really the double whammy of value.
i really wish alec would stop accepting their sponsorship with how horrible they are
It's been resolved. Move on.
@@DaroffApFire That still doesn't solve the quality of their service. Which is bad, since no reputable therapist would work for them, because no reputable therapist wants to be available 24/7. They are not a good provider of therapeutic services.
Go somewhere else and complain about sponsorship, we are sick of seeing it.
as far as I was able to check, they made a mistake paid fine and corrected it. Don't really understand this hate over an issue that was solved...
Alec 100% never once used better help
And you know this for a fact, how? 🤨
@@Nick_Slavik absolutely, also never uses square space or nord vpn
"it's going to be so tight and stuck that the ram won't want to move"
Been there, buddy. That's how I ended up with a kid
Bah ram ewe!
Thats why im adopted
*ONE OF MY FAVOURITE SERIES - PLEASE DO MORE CRAZY BIG RESTORATIONS*
12:54 phrasing haha
"We need to talk about the stuffing box!!!" 😂
The angle doesnt help lmao
I LOVE these long-part series!
MORE OF THEM PLEASE, ALEC!
We all look forward to that great day. Congratulations on this milestone, Alec. Keep at it.
I've been checking your channel at least 5 times in the last few days to see if there's a new steam hammer video
Scam sponsorship tho
Nope
@@lordofgraphite yes
Who cares? They pay our favorite CZcamsrs so they can make videos for our entertainment. If they have to scam a bunch of sad dummies, so be it.
@@bubmer that's not the point they need to be stopped they are a scam
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So glad for the update Alec!!!!
My 20 Alec Steele hand forged nails arrive tomorrow! YAY!
Love these rehab videos. There is so much involved, blacksmithing, machining, "pounding" - thanks for sharing.
"Is this level of stupidity curable?" "That was more of a journey than it should've been" 😂😂😂
you can easily cut a taper between centers by offsetting the tailstock (next time)
Waay easier to use the compound, with advancing the carriage, reset cutter, to taper, without touching the compound angle adjustment. Rinse and repeat.
Wont be for accurate machining, to the micron, but for this, meh, good enough works.
Cant wait to see it work Alec , love youre work ❤
hey Alec normally you cut the rope with an angle so the pressure or whatever it is will excape more difficult
Been waiting on this ive been enjoying this series 😂
I have been waiting so long for this video, and as always, you never disappoint :) btw it was very nice to see you forging some metal, even if it was just squaring that round bar, keep up the good work :)
I am SO EXCITED FOR THIS SERIES
I think grease would work way better than the oil. Could have drilled a channel through the shaft and put a grease nipped on the end.
my thought exactly easy enough to thread that for a zerk though
The Fred dibnafication of Alec ❤
Alec, if you have a dead centre to fit in the headstock, you can offset the tailstock to machine a taper between centers. You can achieve very shallow tapers, and just as long as your machine's capacity. Just remember the difference between included and non-included angles next time.
Super fun series. Going to be sad when its over.
🤣flopped out at the bottom of travel 🤣 great video 2x👍
I'd be willing to bet that the use of un-tapered pins over time is what gouged the housing into that oval shape. The shape of the hole now seems to match the force the arm would be transferring into the pin, plus that little bit of movement every time without a tapered replacement pin just wore it out.
Was my first though as well
Non-tapered pin that wasnt staked, all on an oscillating bearing, was just asking to walk an oval into it
its been a while since yt recommended me one of your videos. its great to see the project i saw the start of is still going
Really enjoying this series. Stay safe.
Holy moly... Getting close!!!!!!! The suspense is killin me !!
Great video, nice to see the steam hammer going back together.
Had to hit the like button when you put your shaft on the table 🤣
I adore this series man.
*LITERALLY SHOUTING AT THE SCREEN* "halve the angle....!!!"
Welcome to the joys of rod packing and the adjustment thereof :).
Also, when you finally put steam to the machine, expect the rod to leak but that'll slow down as the rod expands and makes the packing tighter; don't crank down on the packing when it's cold.
what a great series. this whole thing could be on netflix
this could be the next "The Curse of Oak Island", never gets anywhere.....40 episodes to get a ring or 2 into the machine, what trash this channel has become
Hey man, check up skive joints for the packing. If you wrap the ends with PTFE tape before and after cutting you’ll get a way cleaner edge profile that won’t fray out. Leave it loose until you’re ready to start cycling the shaft, tighten until the shaft is only just restricted and then adjust once you start using it depending on leakage. Remember you need a little bit of leakage to help lubricate and cool the shaft. No leakage = friction, friction leads to heat and premature wear.
Repacked mini pumps in my time in the Navy. Everything you went through repacking the stuffing box was very common.
That laugh when he's lowering the piston is terrifying!
I love how when putting the ram back in youre compaining about too perfect of tolerance 😅 the issues with making it too well
Well thanks Alex, was enjoying this easing to blissful sleep, but too many outbursts of laughter and rewinding now I'm wide awake rewatching.....
Offset the tailstock and turn between centres!
You need a face plate and various sized dogs. I doubt he has those old tooling components.
@@opendstudio7141he’s turned with Dogs before, when he made that one piece stiletto dagger. And he always seems up for getting one more piece of odd kit.
@@opendstudio7141 easily make dogs, and i think he has a faceplate!
looking forward to part 32
*_Lathe 101; Do NOT use compound slide for taper. Offset the tail stock. Cut taper._*
YASSSSS.... Not sure what he was thinking.
Oh god the insanity is back, Alec has been released from the Machinist insane asylum and is back fixing his Steam Hammer...RUN FOR THE HIIIIIILLLLLLSSSS!
Oh Yeah!!! Thanks Alec!!!
I always think it’s good practice to put your shaft on the table and give it a good clean before a gland packing
Alec really out heere in the middel of the summer wearing a hoodie overalls combo
3:42 "I feel like I'm Russian"😂
For future endeavors some tail stocks can be set off center to cut tapers.
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I always give my shaft a good clean before using it on a stuffing box, just seems polite.
turning between centers is a good way to make tapered stuff
To cut a long taper without a taper attachment you turn between centers. Offset the tailstock towards the front of the lathe. Install a drive plate in place of the chuck and use a lathe dog clamped onto the workpiece. It can be a bent tail dog with the tail inserted into a slot in the drive plate or a straight tail dog against a drive pin screwed into the drive plate. Put a little grease on the dog tail where it touches the slot or pin.
You needed to put oil on the piston rings and shaft so it would slide easily in the cylinder and through the rope packing.
This is an awesome series. I still want to know how the house remodel ended up though. :)
Olá amigo que maravilha de trabalho!!!Boa sorte sempre!!!
Ignorance, is curable. Stupidity, is forever.
Best wishes from Northern Canada.
Another great vid!
The rope packing is a bit tight but it'll wear in once the machine starts. Expect it to smoke slightly as it warms up due to friction. Leave the packing loose on start up and tighten it to get the seal once its running. A little lubrication on the packing will help too.
After 35 years in the aviation community I learned that there is no mechanical difficulty that Brute Force and Ignorance cannot overcome
Regarding the pin for your roller, I suspect the original pin was straight, but wiggled back and forth making a tapered hole. Perhaps the best solution is to ream the holes back to cylindrical and either make a larger pin, or bush the holes back to factory diameter. (Small end of taper) Then drill the new pin for a grease passage and install a zerk somewhere accessible or install a drip oiler cup.
I would suggest seeing if you could make a
dude is edging us with this series
Love you’re content 🎉
iv been following you for a long time iv even saw one of your frist videos saw you hit your nuts with a handle of a hammer i love your work
in the lathe, turning between centers, the tailstock can be adjusted so that it is off-center (it's ment this way), there should be a scale on it and the 1 degree taper is not a problem, over the full length capacity of the Lathe.
to do long tapers if you don't want to pick up a cut and leave a step in the finish or it would take multiple steps of the compound. you can always use a known parallel rod and a dti to throw the tailstock the required amount and then machine using the apron as usual. but setting it back to 0 is incredibly important unless you want to turn scrap for the rest of the lathes existing
"I love brute force... It always comes in handy and solves all my problems"
Omg Alec 🤣
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for the longer tapers.. The tailstock on your lathe will most likely have a adjusting screw. Which means you can offset the tailstock by a little and that will allow you to cut longer tapered stock. just remember that you calculate from the head to the tail in length and offset the tailstock to give the angle. Simple trigonometry.
1 degree over 133.6 is about 2.332 mm offset. Divided by 2. so 1.166 offset on the tailstock and you have a 1 degree angle on your material over 133 mm.
Most lathes have the Tailstock adjustment as if it gets out of spec and you need to adjust it to make it parallel again.
Finally some forging!
10:58 🎵 "Catch my heart. Very Melon!" 🎵 (Zatch Bell English version)
"Is this level of stupidity curable?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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To cut long tapers on your lathe, turn the part between centers, the dead center is offset enough to create the taper.
legends say, 1:40, lenght doesn't matter.
Another good one 👍 love your content 👏 👌
I really enjoy the older technologies
@12:55 Give your shaft a good clean, and always be sure you wrap it with your Gland Packing before you put it in the Stuffing Box.
You can use a boring head in the lathe to turn a taper. Maybe it will come in handy at some point
On the packing seal on the shaft you want to tighten it down by hand and turn all the bolts the same time so the flange presses on the packing nice square and even
Curiosity here: when I started watching years ago, you made things, beautiful swords, knives, historical and fantastical. For the last year or so it seems you haven't made much. Mostly visiting places, building lamps and rebuilding old equipment. Now I'm obviously still sub'd and watching and I know content evolves, but when might we get to see another epic multipart sword build.
ALMOST THERE!
wow, that was suddenly ALOT of progress, cool :)
I wish I was A 1900's STEAM HAMMER! so Alec would FIX me.
its easier to install graphite rope packing if you cut the ends at opposing angles so they overlap. This provides a better seal. Also with the install a large punch or flathead and just taking your time makes a world of difference. awesome stuff though.
Alec, when it comes to the use of brute force, always remember the wisdom of the United States Marines: “There is no problem that cannot be solved with sufficient application of high explosives.”
12:30 the question isn't "Why is everything so difficult?" The question is "Why is anything easy?"
Offset your tail stock for the taper on the pin if you need to do long tapers.
13:10 the shaft? oh the ram cylinder... wait.
nice, i want more!