Counter Culture Cycling Youtube Is Getting Bizarre | The NERO Show Ep. 78
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The BMC Road Machine gets a re-launch for 2024, so we take a look at how they are trying to sell the endurance bike in 2024. We also get some great sales numbers from a big cycling brand are able to see who is really buying what.
Cycling counter culture begun to eat itself with weirder and weirder takes on content.
A full cycling CZcams recap, with some great local content and pandering along the way.
Chapters
00:00 intro
00:35 BMC Launch Endurance Bike
13:27 Cycling Counter Culture Gets Weird
24:34 Real World Sales Figures
29:26 ENVE Double Down On Hookless
35:18 Long Sleeve Summer Jerseys
40:13 Factor Prisma Studio
44:29 Tour Of Thailand Vlogs
51:15 Bike Man For U
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Biggest Panda on CZcams... thought that section was gonna be about me... 🐼
It’s pandas pandering all the way down 😅
Me too
Pander podium
I thought it was ‘Pan to Podium’.
Summer long sleeve jerseys for full sun protection in my case
Castelli FINALLY came out with a solid one and I couldn’t be happier haha
Tres Pinas does a few nice ones for women
I use sun sleeves with a short sleeve jersey. Does the same thing but also feels cooler. No need for greasy sunscreen lotion.
I like MAAP waffle stitch on their long sleeves, keep me cool
Same. I use Voler sun sleeves when I wear short sleeve jerseys in the summer.
After watching this episode I immediately changed my Zwift Enve wheels to DT Swiss.
Lol good call
Stay safe kings
LOL
The long sleeve thing is for sun protection. No one wears it for the moisture wicking thing.
Thank you, I was going to come rant on the YT comments section after listening to the pod in the car, happy to see this up there with so many likes. Getting the sun off your skin is what it's all about and it makes a huge difference. (And my MAAP pro base 2.0 long sleeve is by far my favorite jersey)
I know few folks who've had skin cancer scares. It bothers me when people make fun of their arm sleeves or long sleeve jerseys when it's over 90 degrees.
100%
Agreed-temperature /dewpoint spread most of the summer for my region is less than 5 degress (meaning relative humidity is always high), so nothing wicks, with possible exception of Castelli climber's jersey. Long sleeve is for sun protection, it is hotter, but some time less annoying than sun screen.
imagine buying a 4k wheelset, and it was made hookless to be made cheaper, LOL that margin.
Rim braker here! We're not all silly enough to want to go back to the 80s. I'm more living in the 2010s era
Summer long sleeves to keep from having to use so much sunblock.
Chris really missed the main reason for long sleeves. Sun protection that doesn't sweat off.
What's the status of the Jesse Coyle China build bike?
Cheers for the shout-out lads! Was loving it until I got called old 🤣🤣
Definitely aiming to keep doing the videos and making them better quality too, though I'm a scientist not a videographer haha
In the BMC range the numerical “01” refers to their top level carbon layup. The word “one” then refers to the spec on the bike. The Roadmachine with no “01” after it is their second tier frame. This is also the case with their Teammachine, etc.
As someone who works in a store that sells BMC, I have never had a customer that enters the store understanding the BMC lineup
The fact that they named their (TT) bike 'Timemachine' and their aero bike, which isn't related to the TT bike, 'Timemachine Road,' and then naming their new aero bike 'Teammachine R' ditching the 'Timemachine' branding for their racebike line which is also named 'Teammachine' doesn't help either.
Never brought a BMC because the of the fact that I’d look down and see 02 or (god forbid) 03 on my toptube, and constantly being reminded that I’m riding a ‘less’ frame/bike
The frames are the same quality and weight. The 01 has different fork and integrated head.
Jesse at 36:34 😂 I love my long sleeve summer jerseys. They're similar to the long sleeve summer hoodies that are really popular in the hiking niche. I can see how it would be a hassle in humidity and high heat, but in the mountains it's really nice. One less place to apply sunscreen too
Thin fabric across your skin to keep the sun off is cooler than sun with bare skin (see across the world with people wearing long sleeves in super hot climates, e.g. fisherman). Also slightly moist fabric can provide a cooling breeze as the wind cuts across
Wind cooling moist fabric = evaporative cooling
Correct!
I’ve experienced this playing golf but struggle to get my head around doing it while cycling. Will have to give it a try
Sunscreen really clogs up your skin pores.
A long sleeve jersey is a way better and cooler option to sunblock
I absolutely love the MAAP long sleeve summer jerseys. Absolutely perfect for 20-30 degrees, keeps sun away, a bit warmer for cold descents, looks great, no tan lines. Above 30 degrees, I'm applying so much sunscreen it blocks all my pores anyways - and on long days I would need to reapply it either way, so the more body I can cover, the better. Covered sleeves don't really matter in heat to me.
Absolutely agree
Long sleeve jersey wearer here. I do it because I don’t want melanomas lol.
You can also douse the sleeves with some water which cools you down. I wear sun sleeves if I’m wearing a short sleeve jersey.
And they just look sick imo.
you'll notice that firefighters do not wear short sleeves.
Same reason, tbh. I dont want to get skin cancer or any of the sort of you get from being burned by the sun.
@@carlosgaspar8447very different reason for that lol fighterfightera also wear full face masks...so I guess cyclists should too?
@@lf1980 sure. if that gives them an aero advantage. bring along an oxygen tank if allowed.
Man I hate BMC naming convention. I do understand how it works, but I hate it.
What does the 01 mean? In the road machine, I thought it meant it was more road focused, but then they also have a road machine 01 X.
I thought the SLO1 was funny!
It’s actually makes a lot of sense when you know the formula. But just reads as confusion and messy to anyone who doesn’t understand the key points.
Roadmacyine 01 (signifies top end carbon frame) then ONE TWO THREE etc indicates build level ie groupset and wheel choice or basically price point.
Roadmachine 02 is mid level carbon frame layup ONE TWO THREE. Etc again indicates build specs.
Roadmachine 01 ONE vs 02 ONE - exact build specs apart from cheaper/heavier frame.
I just hate the brand. Overpriced garbage.
The frames are the same quality and weight. The 01 has different fork and integrated head.
The revolt is pretty no-nonsense for a gravel bike. Missing a lot of the extra gravel stuff that most other gravel bikes have. It's decently light frameset with endurance geometry and huge tire clearance.
Good chance my next bike is a gravel bike, with a second wheelset to use it as an endurance road bike, too.
David Arthur has got to be in the conversation for the biggest Panda.
…because with an aluminium Bowman Palace 3 this good, who needs carbon?
Hot bright summers day. I’ll wear a long sleeve jersey any day over sunburn after a couple of hours.
Jesse, Orbea (not even a niche brand) has had this kind of colour and components choice, which actually looks good in their mockup, for a decade in their MyO!
Designed mine five years ago on their cheapest model, unlike the expensive Project One. Having a custom paintjob and choosing a larger cassette was actually the reason I went for Orbea.
If I’m heading out for a big day and I’m going to be out in the extreme Aussie sun (i.e after 9am) I often run a long sleeve jersey. Putting sunscreen on prior to heading out at 5:30am is kind of pointless as it’s sweated off by the time I need it. Never have I felt hot because my forearms are covered. Props to the Aussie brands for providing solid options.
If you rank the CZcamsrs that pander the most, you could have a Pander Podium.
On long days on the bike (+6 hrs) I prefer long sleeved jerseys, just for UV protection. If they are light material I don’t feel the temperature difference to a short sleeve
On the hookless pearl clutching and asking for warning labels: do you think the same about carbon parts and torque settings? They’re both capable of catastrophic failure if done up incorrectly. I can remember old curmudgeon masters racers bitching about carbon parts 20 years ago when I first got into the sport. Hookless max psi is just a new specification to keep track of, no different than torquing carbon. If you’re ok with fine print “5nm” stamped on a stem, “72.5psi max” on a sidewall should be fine too, without all the hysterics. Next topic :)
"Running Di2 on a gravel ride is completely inappropriate."
True. I once tried to run Di2 on a gravel road and my bike exploded. I then was arrested by the gravel police for for running 2x on gravel roads because we all know that it's the law to run a 1x setup. Shimano on gravel? What is this world coming to?
Hopefully obvious sarcasm because this is just a dumb take by Chris. Literally have been running 2x12 Ultegra Di2 on my Crux with a road wheelset and gravel wheelset and never had issues. I'm completely confused where this idea came from that you can't run Di2 on gravel. Like your chain will jump off the instant you touch gravel unless you have a clutched derailleur. Out of touch.
"..this show is going turn into two blokes whinging about stuff..." ???
What do you mean "going to" ?
That's why we watch it!
The Revolt being second largest to the TCR is quite logical. To the general public it is a like a Defy, but with bigger tyre clearance. Geometry wise the difference isn't that big.
Long sleeve summer jerseys - absolutely perfect for Northern European summers.... Chris has forgotten what summer in our part of of the world is like 🤣...love my Black Sheep ones.
I really am enjoying the show and the recent topics. Cheers guys!
I also watched a few Bike man for you videos. I enjoyed how "natural" they were.
btw, the panda on the stool next to the RB cans behind Jesse gave me a good chuckle given the topics spoken about today. Hope you guys do eventually get noticed and are offered a fridge or helmets.
Managed to skip buying 3 "road bikes" by buying a disc CX bike a decade ago..
What you are not taking into account about the Propel sales for 2023 is availability. The 2023 Propel was in such low stock across Australia. I work in a Giant store that before COVID we were the best selling store in the southern hemisphere for Propels. In 2023 we received 6 Propels in total.
What’s wrong with a 28 year old or even a 35 year old wanting to race at conti level? Teams like St George shouldn’t just be an u23 talent factory where the rider(s) just move on to a pro team, I’d argue what’s the point of that? Does the team get paid by the pro team to purchase a contracted u23 rider? No way, could be wrong tho 🤷♀️. Better to have a team of guys who wanna race, enjoy the process and are looking to improve no matter the age.
Long sleeves are faster, protect against the sun and absolutely make a difference , you are on the losing side , i do Tri events and the sleeves got longer and longer for a reason, when you do 12 Hours event one could appreciate the full sleeves.
Dude.. the guy on cycling weekly's factor O2 was stolen so he had to resort to parts bin bike, instead of doing unnecessary spending on a superbike on the name of "gains". And then he goes to enjoy cycling. What's wrong with that? He even mentioned his 1980 Masi is 3km slower on 30km/h. But he's fine with that. And you said it will ride like shit compared to a superbike. Unbelievable.
Counter culture exist because big brands exploiting 'pro crowd', or 'maybe in the future pro' crowd get really, really ridiculous.
And the total disconnect of these 'elite' guys with just a completely normal bloke on a sunday ride. Where are the bikes for the normal people?
these dudes don't get it. elitist crap from "racers". fact is, any strong enough rider can decimate posers on carbon "wonder" bikes on this very steel bike. Most of us don't care about bs marketing claims of aero or stiffness. FFS
I think I might be one riders with a Peaks video in a long sleeve summer kit. I talk about it in my debrief video too, would definitely wear it again, but maybe a lighter colour next time. Like others have said the sun protection is super valuable especially for those of us spending 10+ hours on course.
i wear long sleeves a decent amount. i dont really like wearing sun screen and the sun in australia is fully fked
2023 sales figures for giant quoted aren’t an accurate representation. I tried to purchase a 2023 propel SL0 in M/L size - the dealerships I spoke to told me there were global supply shortages and none available - better to wait till 2024 to get one. (I’ve since purchased a 2024 model - now there seems to be ample to the point they are putting them out on sale prices)
My understanding of the BMC Roadmachine / Roadmachine 01 is that the frames are identical (check the weights) but the fork is different, the 01 fork is lighter and has a shape which allows for full cable integration and uses a foam filled cavity to accept the steerer bolt.
I own a 22’ Roadmachine One and it really is a great all rounder, descended the Pyrenees on it last year and it’s just wonderful, running Nine Velo 45mm wheels and 28mm tyres and it’s plenty fast enough.
My one criticism is the front to rear comfort is taking some dialling in, the rear end js exceptional but on UK roads im finding the front quite harsh on some of our less smooth tarmac. I’m down to 55psi and think it actually needs a 30/32mm tyre to truly work on our roads.
Is it plausible the Revolt buyers already have a TCR and want a gravel bike as well? The Revolt is probably the best value for money, big brand gravel bike available so will be popular with Roadies wanting a gravel bike in addition to their road bike.
In 2015 my 2012 Specialized Secteur (size 58) was stolen. I had almost no money so I got a 1978 Trek 730 (or something like that) for $250 (size 60) from a flea market. I am just over 6 feet so both bikes were on the big side. I tried to convince myself, and others, it was better and I almost believed it. I bought a used 2018 allez (58) for $650 in 2018 and I could not believe I had wasted so mu ch time riding badly sized huge bike but I just dug in and didn’t want to admit the fact my bike was stolen made me had a less good time riding. In December 2023 I bought a used SL6 hydraulic disc break bike for $2000.. so much better is not even a contest. I still have the steel bike and I like riding it to make me remember how little I knew.
Well yeh a bike that fits is better than one they doesn’t, think we all agree on that.
Chris - what you need in your gravel bike is GRX Di2.
It’s Shimanos groupset for gravel…and it’s excellent.
My gravel bike (Fairlight Secan) is wearing 55mm deep rims with 34mm road slicks 80% of the time. Feels good man.
"It's steel and is inferior" says these guys - they're pandering!
Lots of little gems in this episode, the highpoint being JC giggling about the tip build. Also liked Chris acknowledging that pandering on CZcams is hard not to do because there's going to be an 'audience' most things. Difference is to provide a balanced review/opinion so that's not pandering IMO.
The bike culture is moved by money, nothing more. As long as the sponsorship money is there, pushing the latest gimmick to be forgotten about in two weeks will be the main form of content. If it changes and video clicks become a main source of income, that’ll change and we’ll see more different stuff.
Btw you two boys were very good here, if you keep up this form you’ll be getting that Le Col coupon code any day😂
This was also true a full century ago. There is a flickr page (epicyclo) with a photocopy of a guy talking about his bike in the May 1930 "The C.T.C. Gazette". All the things that were working amazingly well for him, and reliable, had been tossed aside by industry marketing, including.... wide supple tires like they had back in 1895. Those, btw, were 'Palmers', the original name for tubulars.
The topics here make this the best episode you've done yet.
"Cycling Counter Culture Gets Weird"... more like "shills are getting nervous" 😂.
Mmm nah
@@discbrakefan 😂😂😂
Haha, yeh the comments on the standard gcn shill videos are mostly cynical now. And the numbers are down big.
Minute 37: begins describing sweat gradient wicking to argue against moisture wicking technology.
On another note. Normally during the spring and early summer I wear short sleeves, but on the hottest most humid days, I do wear a long sleeved base layer. First, I sweat like nobody could imagine, and moisture pools more in my bibs instead of evaporating. Second, I have dark skin that absorbs more light and therefore heat than the white baselayer I wear. The base layer keeps my entire upper body cool, and as I’m riding helps that sweat gradient work. I can understand how seeing a LS base layer or LS summer jersey during the summer can seem counterintuitive, but don’t knock it until you try it.
"we'll set that endurance bike discussion on the side for a couple weeks" Enve: "Here is the new Enve Fray!"
Long sleeves are always warmer than short but so is sunscreen! On a hot day sunscreen is too much for me so I don't wear it much. I generally don't feel they're much different. Springtime I wear a jacket longer than needed to prep for the warm weather.
I tried 3 times to not double post this week (long-sleeve/overdressing discussion got me fired up, factor prism studio love it).....but now I can't resist....
Bike Man For You! I need that in my life again..he was a legend!
Always worth the listen. Nice work guys.
Nero show… it feels like we’re in a relationship and all I do is say things I know you’ll go on a satirical rant about. And honestly I could sit and listen to this all day. Love it. Stay salty
Somehow every now and then during this episode it crossed my mind that I was watching The Muppet Show, discrepancy was that you guys are too young for the two blokes who sit up high. Made it to the end effortlessly so as always it was a great show, well it was a good show, well it was an okay show, well it wasn't all that bad, this show used to be better, it was horrible, boooee boeeeeeee!!!! ;-)
You know you guys rock! Keep it up!!!
those old steel bikes look more aero than modern carbon bikes , the tubes are so thin , and frontal area just look so small .
I just moved from a TCR to a Propel when the new model came out. It was a big improvment in my opinion! I got rid of the Cadex wheels for Zipp 404 rims too for the wider inner width. Amazing performance.
I raced with Alex last year. He used that rim brake bike every race even though he has the option of both
The lower end BMC range is super reasonable. You can get a 105 road/team machine for ~$3k at the moment
'01' is BMC's language for top tier carbon
Long sleeve jerseys are for sun protection.
‘01’ is BMC’s equivalent of S-Works or HiMod in that it’s the more premium frameset. Irritating that they keep the outdated models on their website, but the new ones are pretty visually different to tell the difference.
I'm actually at the hotel (coincidentally) in Girona where BMC are launching the new bike and some other neat things which I'm not allowed to say. Saw Cadel and saw the new bikes. Even talked to Stephan (chief of R&D). Very interesting.
On the Elves page you can custom pait your frame, and if your not happy with the default patterns they offer, you can send in your own mockup. all for way less $$$ than chapter or any other brand offering custom painted frames.
I like giant but I can’t even consider the tcr bc it comes with hookless wheels :( Ugh!
I bought a TCR Advanced 1 Disc Pro that came with a cheaper hooked wheelset and without a power meter and fitted the wheelset I wanted and shorter cranks. The Giant wheels then were a back up set for my gravel bike. They had a lot of options when I bought mine a couple of years ago.
Long sleeve chat got me thinking... If fabric has greater surface area than skin (the knit) it may increase evaporation opportunity BUT balanced vs. any insulative properties .. Evaporation also shite in low-speed high humidity (QLD summer climb), so the balance is dynamic... good in low humidity sunny flat higher speed riding, as wetting your arms is noticeably cooling (FNQ winter) ...
Best part of that new BMC Endurance bike? It looks like their Team Machine race bike. So you won't feel embarrassed riding the endurance model because it doesn't look racey. Plus, 40mm tire clearance? That's amazing for the ability to throw some knobby cross tires on for some light gravel riding.
I am running Reynolds Blacklabel 60's 21mm Internal with 2.1 MTB tires on my gravel bike. Also, your Di2 quandary is change your rear derailleur and cassette and your Di2 will not handle your gravel. Or change your front inner ring to something smaller to fit the needs. Di2 is capable you just seem to be missing the options stuck in your narrow minds. 🤣 I love to listen to just how shallow you both appear at times stuck in your little bubble. As for the long sleeve jersey's are they not showing SPF50 or something? I prefer those over sunscreen because it sweat so much and it basically is null and void inside of 30 minutes. And when my sleeves get wet when I stop the moistures acts as a small cooling agent.
How long until someone develops a rim brake that allows 34c tires and the industry moves everyone back on to rim brakes?
Why would they? Wider tyres are far from the only benefit
@@discbrakefan It is actually the only benefit. And maybe that you can use carbon wheels without losing brake performance.
@@rand_kk Tell me you’ve never ridden disc brakes without telling me
@@discbrakefan I actually upgraded to modern bike a month ago (sram red, deep light wheels, etc). Was expecting more from it. It does have a better ride feel than my previous but I'm pretty sure it is all in the wheels and tire change (from 26c to 30c)
Direct mount could do it I reckon
Pandering? In other words, you define "pandering" as "trying to appeal to an audience not your own." By your definition, CZcams Channels that appeal to the fixie crowd is pandering. CZcams channels appealing to collectors of vintage bicycles is also pandering. If a channel is trying to establish their own niche, then that is pandering? Tell you what. Some people would say that your channel is pandering to the bike manufacturers. Others would not be so kind. They would call your channel "GCN Wannabees" or "sellouts".
The Panda on the stool was a nice touch.
On the hookless front, LightBicycle has a new "hybrid hook" that adds a little safety over the straight-wall rims. It's only about 5psi extra margin, but looks like it would be a win for wide tires.
Chris, just test it yourself and you'll come to the same conclusion as field workers in places like Arizona. In a strong sun, long white sleeves are absolutely the best option.
Steel retro bike bloke is smart. He won't get that one stolen. 😂
Cycling Weekly is taking over for GCN , pandering to the MAMLs. By the way , he wasn’t even born in the late ‘80’s!
About the GCN Tech video, the clickbate was confusing to most viewers.
I love your podcast especially rincing the steel bike
i guess that the in house unlabeled BMC rims are also built by DT Swiss :)
Endurance Bike manufacturers - please go back to a traditional 27.2mm seat post. How many watts are we really saving here with a proprietary aero seat post? It’s definitely not worth the trade off.
One of the blokes at CCACHE I chatted (well I ranted) to the other week about mentioned he needed a zero setback seat post yet his bike had a proprietary seatpost set up and the bike manufacturer only made a set back option. . 🫠
Bmc isn't the only brand that uses numbers for model variants.
Norco and Trek do it as well.
Generally speaking, the higher the number, the lower down the spec chain the bike is.
Then there's Merida using 10 through 10,000 for their model numbers,and they use an ascending scale,with 10 being bottom-end,and 10k being the best there is.
With BMC, the 01 is the better frameset version (better carbon layup,lighter weight etc), and then the number after that is the spec level of the components fitted to it.
The X is their cyclocross variant. The 1x gravel groupsets and 33mm tyres may have been a clue towards that.
It's not hard to understand if you take more than 5sec to look at it.
Endurance bikes suit far more riders than race geometry bikes do. Way less people need or can comfortably ride a long and low race bike for hours in a gran fondo.
A road machine on 30's or 32's wonderful to ride in something like the Snowy classic.
If you're 20yrs old,are flexible and are doing crits,buy a Team machine.
If you're 35+ and doing fondos and club rides, get a road machine.
If you're doing Cyclocross, get a Road machine X.
If you're doing gravel racing, get a Kaius.
Chris is spot on about custom paint offerings from the likes of Trek P1 and Orbea My-O!
I mean, I ride an Orbea but I sure do not want to work with my local Orbea retailers because I eventually get Izzy (former Nero mechanic) to work on it 😂
It’s awkward for Orbea My-O to send me a custom painted frame to my local bike Orbea retailer and then what? Do I just walk in the store and be like “alright gents, Imma just pick this frame up and have another mechanic to build it up for me” -that’s sooooooo awkward
Maybe it's because I was in the Army or maybe because I played football (soccer) for so long, but I prefer long sleeve everything, even while running. However, It all depends on the breathability of the material. Not having to mess with sun cream and not having crazy tan lines is nice.
Willie Smit is from South Africa. was on BH Burgos in Spain a few seasons ago. He's still racing, lives in Andorra with his wife and child and has a nice youtube channel...
- Me watching this gearing up for my ride in my lightweight long sleeve jersey hehe
- Factor Prisma Studio UX engineer got his raise lol
Got a Revolt (32mm cadex classics tyres )for training ,long rides rough roads .Its the best for me as a 58 year old and I've also just purchased a TCR advanced pro 0 2023 model for $5800 for occasional performance days .I always found the TCR a better fit than the Defy...
We are lucky here that the Giants are much better priced than the US ,UK and Europe
It's not really that Giant is priced well here. It's that the euro/US brands have high mark up here. If you're on a budget you're pretty much just buying Giant or Merida.
Ribble also has an amazing custom studio for years, been always on it with my friends, i'd argue there's more options for colours too.
Just spent half an hour on The factor sight. Sooo cool. Only problem is, it’s too hard to choose. I think I’d end up with all Black w/ chrome Factor logo.
Nero is the #1 source in endurance bike news!
Was good to see the Boris Clark videos after the last 2 races.
Ahhhhh. I liked that video from Cycling Weekly. Man, my panda radar was weak on that one.
If you're gonna give a shoutout to a bike shop owne from 7 years ago. You have to mention BikeFarmer. Good vibes 🤘
Maybe the Propel/Gravel bike is just popular because everyone already has a normal road bike? I have a four year old aero bike, if I buy another bike it's something to gravel and get dirty.
I think a lot of" rusted on" roadies want a gravel bike as well because they see their mates that have them, are doing some cool rides and events. So be interesting to see if this trend continues, or if the interest wanes, the bubble kind of bursts, and more gravel bikes start gathering dust in the garage?
I got a Factor and it was the best experience! It rides great too!!!
Is Jesse piling up Red Bull cans in the back until he gets a sponsorship? 😉
Qute honestly,the difference between my 1983 Steel Bob Jackson. And my Carbon from Ribble now 10 yrs old is marginal. 11sp over 7sp and 3kg lighter for the Ribble. I ride the steel bike just about everyday and it just goes. Having never been lucky enough to ride a real Super Bike, quite happy to let someone lend me one for review. Then I can see if their is the dramatic change in performance.
The reason Trek sends it to the retailer is that they want your bike to fit and work for you. They also go over the paint you have selected to make sure it is exactly what you want. They dont want every punter to buy a bike and be like this is crap, it dosent fit and looks nothing like I wanted. Plus, project one builds start at about 8 K USD
If someone is more comfortable in a long sleeve, and enjoys cycling more, then all power to them
"Bike man for u" closed shop in 2017, it was said he went into the oyster business.
Happy Oyster Company on CZcams, but his last stream was 1 year ago.
Willie's footage makes those descents look far more dangerous than they actually were! I was racing with him in Mersin & it was one of the safest & well-organised races I have ever done. As an ex-WT rider, it's a bit concerning how many positions he lost on that descent 😂
Dawg one of the riders nearly got elbowed down the side of a cliff at 70Km/hr...
Not a good look guys, getting to big for your boots comes to mind. Cycling can be enjoyed on any bike and showing people you can put a great bike together for little money is great for getting people into cycling. Many of us grew up on a bike like that and had the best experience. Not all have us have been hypnotised by the marketing or have 6 grand for a bike. If fancy equipment is the reason you enjoy cycling you are lacking and making fun out of stuff like this is a poor show. Be humble
Not sure if you didn't watch the video or just completely missed the point. The cycling weekly video is amazing. 20 year old hipster makes a bike from a frame that was from 10 years before he was born, and puts a spotless ultegra groupset he got 'for free from the tip' and a set a $2000 carbon aero wheels his mate "had no use for".
If that's your idea of down-to-earth practical cycling advice... well stick to cycling weekly channel I guess.
I bet there is no new Roadmaschine 01 One because the new Sram red is nit released yet