Sata X5500 RP "I" v "O" Pattern, What's The Difference For Clear Coat & Base Coat
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2022
- A comparison video of the Sata X5500 in 1.2 RP "I" and "O" pattern, there's really not a great deal of difference, I've used both for a wile and it really is very small, hope you like the video 👍
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Hi Pete, great video mate as always, I’m glad you said there wasn’t much difference between the I and the O because I couldn’t see any really, both very capable setups though! There must be a reason for Sata to make the different caps though, the wings both looked great out in the sun light. Once again though Pete thanks for including us car guys. Cheers mate! Steve.
Cheers Steve, I've been meaning to do this for ages because when I've used them on there own you can't see or feel that much difference but i thought there was more than there actually was, it's really quite minimal, I think most of it's just marketing to attract Iwata and other users as the Sata 5000 has a bit of a reputation for being a bit fierce although it isn't really.
I'm quite enjoying doing the wings, they are quick and easy to prepare for paint compared to some of the bike stuff which can be fiddly, I originally only bought one left and a different right side wing but one was bent and squashed so they said keep it and sent me another, I repaired it so have 2 the same which is ideal for this sort of thing, cheers mate, hope alls well 👍
O pattern has a shorter, wider wet core (larger dry zone) and higher film build. Typically used for clears and lays down fast, good for production painting. I nozzle is quite the opposite and is more controlled, good for base. I use it for sealer as well. I use a few 1.3 HVLP I-pattern for base & 1.2 RP O for clear. In a controlled environment and trained eye you will see the difference in proper lighting. The RP is a good all rounder.
Hi Pete
I spent months trying to decide which one to purchase,like you have alluded too.
Went for the 1.2i.But,as you now say ,it doesn’t really matter which you choose. More of a marketing ploy to appease everyone than actually offering variations.
Great vid as usual👍
Thanks buddy, yes, very little detectable difference, in fact I thought, from using them separately that there was a little more of a difference but using them like this, where everything is the same bar the tip or gun just shows how little there is, 👍
Fantastic video!
Cheers Jeremy, much appreciated 👍
The Sata finish looks like more "fat" , but I still prefer WS 400 and DV1 over for clear finish. Thank you again for great video!
Thanks Walter, Some of the "fat" or "cheesy" finish to down to the upol clear coat, it doesn't flow particularly well, something I've noticing more after trying different more modern clears but for my purposes it does the job, cheers buddy 👍
Thank you for this video
You're welcome buddy, thanks for watching 👍
The Sata 5500 1.2 I, Sagola 4600 extreme dvr 1.2xl and the Devilbiss Dv1 1.4 c2 cap are my favorite clear guns.
Hi Jeremy, yes, I'm very similar to you as far as ranking go, I would add the Sat 5000 1.3 rp to that and the Walcom Carbonio Lite 360 HTE 1.3 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Absolutely, I have those guns too and they are great!
I love sata pete as you know my favourite ❤ gun 🔫 with sagola extreme 4600 1.3 is the i for base coat paint pete and the 0 for clear coat paint are them guns made of aluminium good video 📹 this very Interesting to watch
Hi Andy, It's more down to the painters preference than one being for base and one for clear, although many will prefer an I pattern for base and the O for clear coat.
It really is dependent on how they like to do things, the materials they use , the conditions and the finish they want 👍
Hey Pete, well that was an eye opener as I was expecting to see a big difference when you did the spray out on the paper, as you know I already have the1.2 I so was expecting a rounder umm, well "O" shaped fan but it looks similar to the "I" which really surprised me as when I was looking at the Sata X5500 I didn't know which one to get but a few people said if you are a Devilbiss user then go for the "I" which I did and don't regret it one bit as it's a fantastic gun BUT.. I still like the design of the DV1 better as for the clearcoat finish though you can't really split them apart from IMO the Sata is easier to get that wet glassy finish.
I was reading though some of the posts here Pete and you hit the nail right on the head when you said "I'm finding the clear coat can be more of a leveller than the gun" and that is it as these days all of the guns from the top well known brands are IMO able to give the same level of finish it's the clearcoats that have more influence on how nice the finish looks.
Thanks for doing this comparison mate it was very interesting 🙏👍 ok after that long comment I'll bugger off 😁🙄😂
Hi John, yes, I was expecting a bigger difference to be honest, I've used both setups on there own and, although I've said before, it's not a huge difference in these two it really was hardly anything.
I really enjoy doing the side by side comparisons as it really is the best way to try things out, where everything is the same bar the gun or whatever because you get ideas in your head and they are levelled when everything is the same.
As to the clears, with the more modern one's they are definitely thinner wile retaining a high solid content and, as you know, they flow better than some of the cheap older types, this lends itself really well to the finer atomisation guns that don't necessarily put loads out, were living and learning as they say mate 👍
Hi Pete, I really like your side by side comparison videos mate as they are done with the same conditions with temp and humidity. I do wonder if the "I" and "O" caps really need to exist as there is so little difference maybe one is all you need but there may be more of a difference if you are in a booth painting cars all day every day, thanks again for doing these vids mate as I find them very useful 🙏👍
I think your right, they are just catering for the Iwata/Devilbiss owners that like the idea of the Sata but have heard the 5000 is a bit of a handful, like me and you really, i did exactly the same as you, went "I" as it would be similar to what we know and it's marketed as such when in reality a 5000 isn't that much of a handful anyway, cheers mate 👍
Thanks for all the wonderful info in your videos , can you tell me what is the best way to clean your eyeglasses of overspray after a long spray session . .
Thanks Danielle, I use a gun wash on some blue paper towel, works really well, just make sure it's doesn't react with your lenses before you go for it, i found a gun wash is not as potent as thinners and works well, pure alcohol also works , i use that to clean the camera lens as also, cheers 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks . When I get my new glasses next week I am going to start wearing goggles over them .
Great video once again Pete , I’ve never been interested in buying a Sata mostly because first I’m an Iwata fan boy and secondly their costs, but in saying that I am thinking of buying an NTools branded 5000B RP 1.3 , which of course is just a Chinese knock off but for the $200 it’s advertised at I’m very curious to how well the NTools gun sprays. I do feel it’s unfair to buy something that’s just a stolen design , but in my case is simply a monetary based decision and I have a feeling it’s going to give a very similar result but I’ll have to wait and see , have you ever tried the knock brand version of these Sata’s ?
Hi Roger, no, I haven't, i have the Devilbiss copy and it's not too bad, the cap's are all generic in the case of the pro lite copy, it not like the original ones even though they put different types on them, don't know if the Sata copy is the same in this respect
Now try the 5500 hvlp I cap pattern compared to the 550 rp I cap pattern.
Hi Pete
Thank you for the effort of your videos.
If the Price is no object, but only one spraygun is used for base & clear (beside a separate primer gun) which one would you choose of Sata 5500X / Ani 200(black) / Ani F160?
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Thanks, Martin, if the money was no object I would get the Sata X5500 in 1.2RP I pattern as an all rounder
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you so much for your lightning fast answer✨💫
@@peteshobbies5383 And for Primer only a Ani F160 or something cheaper?
The ANI F160 is a great primer gun, you can get cheap but this works really well and can save with preparation so I would get one if you can
@@peteshobbies5383 do you know why the black F160 is much cheaper than the silver F160?
Hi
Would you upgrade from Devilbiss Tekna Pro TE10 and TE20 for Sata X5500 RP 1.3 I for base and clear ? Especially for heavy metallic colours
Hi buddy, the Sata X5500 RP is actually quite good for basecoat even though its classed as a clear gun with the HVLP version being recommended for base.
Having said that and knowing the price of them i would say no, the TE10 for base and TE20 for clear is a good combination and i don't think you will see any real gains
Nice video
Thanks buddy, much appreciated 👍
Good information 👍
@@kandyman5315 Thanks, there really is very little in these two, there is a slight difference but when you use them side by side it doesn't seem much, certainly less than i can remember from using them on there own, cheers 👍
Hi! These spray guns consumes 290l of air per minute as the manufactured say or much?
Hi buddy, I would guess the RP versions use around 12.5 cfm at 29psi so around 350Lt per minute at 2 bar, it's certainly not 290lts per minute, pressure would need to be around 1.7 bar to get to that consumption
I know they're two totally different gun and price ranges. How do you feel about this gun vs kiwami4?
Hi Justin, the Kiwami4 BA4J is a great gun at its price point and will quite happily take on the Sata's, the Sata's will probably last longer but you really wouldn't notice must if any difference
Hi Pete again. Can you tell me without me going back through your videos. The best smart mini repair gun for the money, with low air pressure, does not have a lot of over spray..etc. !!! Cheers Your thoughts....
If it's just small areas then the LPH80 is good, not overly expensive and uses very little air, it's slow for bigger stuff though
@@peteshobbies5383 What about bigger areas ?
I really like the W300WB 1.2 but it's expensive and isn't particularly good for air consumption, Sri Pro Lite is a good compromise, reasonably priced, good with air and capable of bigger areas, doesn't atomise as fine as the LPH80 or W300WB but is perfect for most situations, called the pro lite s now
@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks for that mate ..take care...
No worries, you too mate 👍
good effort Pete, thanks for sharing. i haven’t own a Sata yet. All my guns from Devilbiss and iwata. Do you recommend Sata guns instead of other brand?
Those other brands will give you just as good of finish but the Sata is built a little stronger and will last longer.
@@jeremyoetken2094 cheers bud, i will buy one of these in near future to experience then🤙🏾
Hi Bill, I do like using them, they are, in my opinion overpriced and you can achieve just as good a finish with Devilbiss and Iwata guns, for me i had to have one simple to know what they are like to use 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks Pete, thanks for sharing your honest review. Please keep making these great videos👍🏿
I would certainly agree for the most part, during experimentation with different gun's and now clear coats I'm finding the clear coat can be more of a leveller than the gun
Kalau sata x 5500 ini dibandingkan dengan sagola 4600 xtreme 1,3xl lebih bagus mana hasil catnya pak Pete?
I prefer the Sagola Xtreme 4600 1.3XL DVR Clear, but some do not. The Sagola is a faster gun, and some won't like that
@@peteshobbies5383 terimakasih pak Pete informasinya 🙏🙏
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Thanks buddy 👍
be careful when buying x5500 they bubble inside the cup an flutter spray pattern after using a while have it 14 months now try changing the seal on the nozzle no change an properly tighten this is the rp 1.3 0 nozzle what i use for clear
Hi buddy, haven't had any problems with mine, have you contacted Sata? , these often come with a 3 year warranty
Wrap the fluid tip threads with Teflon tape. The seal isn't enough sometimes
I've not had a problem yet, I know some people using waterbourn paints have had trouble with corrosion at the sealing point on the gun body, the part where the tip seal compresses
@peteshobbies5383 ended buying a complete nozzel set up gun works perfect now seems the nozzel was defective
Not cheap! but good to hear it worked 👍
This gun purches links please
Hi there, this is where i got mine from ,
spraygunsdirect.co.uk/product/sata-jet-x-5500-digital-spraygun/