Thief vs. Dishonored: Superior Stealth Game Showdown
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- Which is better: Thief or Dishonored? Daniel Hindes dissects the stealth-action genre's two biggest games to find out which comes out on top.
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*Clicks on video*
You're playing a dangerous game...
*Dishonored wins all*
Good. Good....
you're*
+Xx ConnorKingxX But it was wrong.
And he can spellcheck whoever he wants
Some Guy there we go, you fixed it :D
Kodein What did you just say? Check your spelling before you post it.
What did you just correct? Check if you're right before correcting someone. Makes you look like a dumbass.
even the die-hard fans of the original thief games, like myself, will immediately insist that the latest thief game is absolute garbage and an insult to the legacy of the originals and the series.
dishonored on the other hand is a masterpiece.
Volound I have been playing Theif snce it first came out and I think the new thief game is great.
Volound Xbox released thief for free on the 360 and I couldnt even tolerate it passed chapter 4... The side missions are hardly entertaining and seem to be just a hassle. The upgrade system is rather pointless. Even if you consider the maps multi layering and design it is still very small. All in all very repetitive. 5/10 - on a generous scale
Quinn Marchese i dont give a shit about opinions. opinions are completely worthless to me.
nothing i have said is hypocritical.
+Volound If you don't give a s*it about opinions, why out one in the initial comment?
If you don't care about opinions, why put one in the initial comment?
the only issue I had with Dishonored was the game forcing you to trust the loyalists. when they handed me the drink I was shouting "NO! IT'S POISON!"
straight up. I just thought "Oh well I didnt see him poor that, lets swap drinks ey?"
+RO bear Whoa! Killer bears! Woulda liked to see that!
Thanks for the spoiler ;)
Of course they would force you to like the Loyalists. They were trying to built up a really good twist. I originally distrusted them, then I felt more comfortable and then the game shoves it up my...
+Russel Tawaran btthl
When you first play Dishonored and try to go around guard like an idiot and when you replay it and see that you CAN go up these giant bridge cables or swim your fish way to objective...most rewarding experience ever
Should we gather for whiskey and cigars tonight?
+Zach Martin Indeed, I believe so.
+Zach Martin Think you'll get your own squad after what happened last night?
never doubt it
How old did you say your sister was?
Another night, another patrol with you.
Dishonored is my favorite game ever.
Same. Absolute masterpiece
Yeah, the story and the world is just great. And the replay value is insane
both are kinda same
True
Dishonored 2 hype!!
Dishonored also isn't buggy as shit and keeps breaking every hour, advantage Dishonored
coolwolf2089 Yeah that is really annoying.
coolwolf2089 Dishonored is actually fun to play unlike Thief. Advantage Dishonored.
I have both and I agree with that too advantage Dishonored
These days you cannot really find a perfect game where you can choose between open combat or stealth approach to the mission, Thief is also annoying because you don't have so much choices that depends on your gameplay or progress in story, In Dishonored players always have full control to choose between good or evil and every option in game has really intresting consequences.Advantage Dishonored.
Rhythmic Drip035 Its Not That I dont like Dishonoured, and ie never actually plated Thief, He seemed kind of biased in this one, like just he was kinda totally making thief look like a terrible game, and not focusing on the good things about thief, while he had nearly nothing bad to say about dishonoured,
I think in terms of stealth, Thief is superior by far, because Dishonored invested in many more aspects than just stealth.
Still, Dishonored kicks Thief's ass. CORVO FTW
ironically the thief killed more people than the lord protector seeking vengeance in my first playthrough
IadiiI Depends on if you chose to play lethally or not.
Lord Grompulus Kevin Ribbiton of Croaksworth Yea I always considered the ones who rarely use power to be the most stealthy. Dishonored is fun in all but using powers to be stealthy sounds like a cheat to me. Like we actually have to climb normally in Thief instead of using that blink bullshit which means real stealth. When we compare games and make it competition between those games it can really piss those off who like the other game instead of the game that is winning the competition. Again Dishonored is fun but if I were to want real stealth, Thief or Hitman thats it.
In Dishonored 2, they actually give you the option to play the game with no powers. Right at the beginning, you can flat out reject to receive the outsider's mark (Leaving you a 100% power free human). So for people like you who actually prefer to play based on normal humanistic physics alone, that is now an option. Enjoy.
ok dum dishonored = Bioshock why add stealth mode
lmao
Thief deserved that immersion one, that was unfair. They did so well with those animations.
The guy who wrote the review is a self-proclaimed fan of the old Thief games. From what I've seen, anyone who was a hardcore fan of the old Thief games has hated the new game since before it came out. I don't really trust that this comparison is reliable.
@@AGiantPie i am
Dishonored looks as if Van Gogh was on the development team
I agree, it's awesome, isn't it? :3
who is that?
Van Gogh is an artist from the 17/1800s. Anyone who graduated elementary school should know that.
Cloaker We never learned anything about him at school. Which is pretty strange since he's a respected artist here.
Looks nothing like a Van Gough painting. Just because it looks painterly doesn't mean it looks like anyone who painted...
Why does this even exist? Dishonored is obviously superior.
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Maris Grablevskis dishonored 2 is better tbh
[oke] Watr, maybe he wanted to say 'noo' rather than no
*INTENSE PANICKING SOUND*
Attention Dunwall Citizens: The assassin Corvo, responsible for the murder of our beloved Empress and the disappearance of Lady Emily...
I'm playing dishonored now while watching this and I literally heard that at the exact time I read this
Dishonored is about a Assassin, Thief is about... well... a thief! They both do different things to make a different stealthy challenge that different people like.
All in all, Different Adventures, Different opinions.
Everyone's happy.
THANK YOU PRAISE THE LORD!
*****
True but, the thing is that One game is about an Assassin, another, A thief.
It just doesn't make any sense to compare such games,
Ones for Killing, another is for Stealing.
oh and COD is terrible.
You just don't compare to such an idiotic experience.
*****
Listen I see your point, Its just that for some reason or another, My brain just can't comprehend this.
I do respect your opinion in its entirety but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
shut the fuck up zelda
wot m9 U fukin' wot m9 fake nurd gurl alurt lawl (I don't actually spell like this, I just felt like making a reference to fake nerd girl. I know you're probably trolling but if you aren't somehow, that's fanart link.)
I just finished my thief review and I gotta say while thief makes a great stealth game, its no where near the level or variety or quality of dishonored (in my own scores)
dishonored - 9.5
thief - 7.75
this is not thief being bad but dishonored being a masterpiece!!!
thank you, finally a thief-friendly comment
Thief is bad tho...
I know this video makes it sound like a 5-min commercial for Dishonored, but as someone who's played both games, I'd have to agree with the points made. Thief, while a great game and one that I immensely enjoyed, feels forced. It's not exactly a play-how-you-want-to game...the routes and methods to do things have all been planned for you. All you have to do is choose. Dishonored, on the other hand, feels way more dynamic and you feel like you have much more freedom to do things your way. That is the biggest difference which makes Dishonored better, in my opinion.
Thief is a truly "stealth" game whereas Dishonored is a little more action-packed and intense because if you screw up your strategy, you'll engage in combat. I've re-played Dishonored about four times now but only played through Thief once...maybe I should give it a couple more tries before judging it too soon.
the stealth winner is... Duke Nukem Forever
Saints Row 4, you dumbass...
EPICSHEIK SR4 its in 3rd place after Shadow Warrior
I agree, it managed draw no attention to itself for more then 10 years
You are nuts dude, Sneak King is greatest stealth game!
HAHAHAHA PCMASTERRACE OBVIUSLY FLAPPY BIRD HAS THE BEST STEALTH SYSTEM YOU PEASANTS
I LOVED that in Thief, I could look down...and see my whole body and legs. It still baffles me that most first person games these days STILL don't do this, and you're basically just a floating camera...
GTA V next gen has First-person and you can look at your legs! :D I think...
Nice, didn't realize they did it too. Good for them lol. It's a small thing but it annoys me when I'm a floating camera with just arms.
King Willie Part of it is what they mentioned in this video, a lot of the time when you make first person more immersive (like showing your body/legs, having the camera shake and sway with movement, limiting turn/look speed etc) the amount of control the player has suffers slightly. Even if you do a pretty good job of it there's still a lot of issues like for example how you handle leg clipping (do you have it so if your ankle is stuck on a tiny ledge you can't move, creating more limited movement? or do you have your leg just clip through the object making it look weird and non-immersive anyway?)
I think we're finally getting to the stage where people are just about working out how to do proper full body first person in a good way, but there's still a lot of work to be done to make it play as smooth as possible so I'd rather they get it down just right before it becomes the norm in games.
Thief isn't as good as Dishonored, or the original Thief games, but it's still a fine and enjoyable stealth game. I feel it got judged a little harshly especially considering there aren't actually that many stealth games these days. A good, though not ground breaking, stealth game like Thief should be welcomed by stealth fans. It's well worth playing if you like stealth games.
Most players seem to not like it because of the name. Honestly, it's pretty lackluster compared to the previous games.
Adam Howell they had one huge problem: it had the thief name. the thief serie is known to be a very good stealth game, so if the new instalmend by a new team is an averige game with the thief titel, people feel betraid. the feel of the game is of and the AI is realy dum. the feel of dishonored was perfect and the stealth was a chalange, if you got in a swordfight you were a bit OP, but you were the last protection of the emperes and you got power from a god like being, so if was kind of justified.
Adam Howell My main issues with the game were the QTEs, bugs, repeating conversations that occasionally overlapped or flat out broke (I've got a video of one on my channel, for example), bad level design and load times. In some levels it was actually decent, and I kinda liked the Asylum level which I'm fairly certain was a homage to the asylum from Deadly Shadows (the level Robbing the Cradle).
vinx.909 Sometihng i like about dishonored is how justified is the OPness of the player, some games ike farcry 4 give the protagonist commando gun skills out of thin air, dishonored actually explains it.
bakendorf _ yea, that you are OP might me a problem in the game but it is perfectly justified: the last defence of the emperer and given powers by a god-ish being, ofcouse he is going to be OP.
The original Thief games were incredible, but then Dishonored came and it changed the formula a little. And now the new Thief wants to do the same but it simply couldn't.
they go with the "we want a wider audience, because.. its not the money... let me think an excuse..." and then genres in games died.
at first was rpg elements, then was QTE´s, then was press X to win, and now is "cinematic experience"
gather all that shitty ideas, and there you have modern games.
Dishonored FTW
Personally, I'd give full marks for both games. Its hard to say which one I like more. They've both got this great way of making you feel like The City/Dunwall is descending into chaos. I find Corvo's silence to be a little dull, but the other characters in Dishonored make up for that. In Thief, Garret's sarcastic and witty comments along with his calm manner make him a cool character. Even when he's in trouble and seems like he might die, he always keeps his cool. Thief's graphics appeal to me a LITTLE more than those of Dishonored. I like the hand animations and the fact that you have to watch your money, making sure that you don't try to buy too much at once. Dishonored's powers were amazing, but Thief was more realistic and ALL combat related, Corvo could do both stealth and combat. It was a good fit for Dishonored, but I'm glad that Thief was ALL stealth, it was an original and worthwhile experience. I have to say that I enjoy playing both games equally, though.
Absolutely 100% agree with this. But what makes me so sad is that Dishonored didn't really set itself up for a sequel. Only DLC's. Which is saddening.
They are supposedly making a sequel with a grown-up Emily as the lead.
PrimevalSeriesSixFic SPOILERS in the end of one story Emily is dead in the others she I shown as very old....I don't think a 78 year old woman with no skill whatsoever can kill :P if anything I would like to see a prequel of this game showing corvo as he goes through lots of shit to become the empresses body guard and protects her and goes on different missions for her if you ask me though the DLCs were fuckong fantastic
Eddy Alvarado You mean the bit where she is standing over Corvo's grave? She looks like 30... I very much doubt Arkane Studios would make Corvo as the lead in the sequel, too samey, they'll want to surprise us
PrimevalSeriesSixFic I said a PREQUEL not a sequel a prequel is like how they had all the x men movies and then they made xmen origins which was a preuqel to all that so I would wanna see a prequel of corvo before the empress died and he went rouge
Eddy Alvarado Yeah like I said a bit too samey... what about his powers?
Creativity in Dishonored is a blast! Out of grenades? Find a bottle or a jar, take two spring-razor traps and put them inside the vessel. Then throw it. Effect? Enemies dismembered in a even more fun way than good old (but expensive) grenade.
love your profile pic zieba haha
Bru Master "I know" :D
They are two entirely different games! I'll explain it as simple as possible so people understand... Dishonored is an assassin game, in essence. Thief is a ... Thief game, the main goal is to steal and be stealthy, to not leave trace while Dishonored goes for the whole "Be a ghost or a butcher."
They both have stealth elements and... That is it, that is the only similarity that they have gameplay wise. Their settings are both taken from the original Thief, beyond that literature that in so innumerable that simply spouting out one suggestion would be pointless. Where the confusion arises in the artistic, theme and surroundings of the game that end up making them appear so similar... But only on surface.
Dishonored is a pure assassin game, even though you can choose to not kill anyone (This is the most boring way to play the game.) and the power fantasy comes from being able to line up those awesome kills, imaginative and creative kills.
Thief is about feeling completely silent, to be the thief that no one notices... To skulk, to sneak and to steal all those precious valuables from those posh nobles that everyone hates and despises.
They are different on a fundemental scale, this is like comparing a driving game to a piloting game, completely different but superficially similar.
exactly what i was thinking
Not really, They are both First Person games, they are both focused on stealth (one way or another, even if T4ief is more focussed on it than dishonored), they were both inspired by the original Thief games, and THEY BELONG TO THE SAME GENRE. At the end of the day THEY ARE extremely SIMILAR games EVEN if they do have major differences
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS They are alike games, but their focus is different.
No, in Dishonored the "butcher" gameplay is much easier than "ghost". With superpowers it's extremely easy to complete the level kiling everyone. It's immensily harder to go through without being spotted AND choking guards to sleep.
I agree!!!!
Not here to say Thief was better, it wasn't, but thief gave you side quests and a hub world to visit and loot, dishonored was just following the missions one after the other. It makes sense since Corvo is rushing to find Emily and such while in thief he's gathering information about what happen for the year he can't recall, but I don't think comparing them is really fair. Thief is about being a thief in a crumbling city while dishonored you are an assassin, they both feature different aspects of the stealth genre.
I liked Garett's quips and thoughts he spoke and didn't like that Corvo was a blank slab of meat that never talked.
I liked picking locks and distracting guards and didn't like that Corvo's arsenal was way overpowered
I love the asylum level in thief (made me jolt a spook or two) and didn't like that Dishonored had about 0 feel of the bizarre
so again, I still like dishonored because it was more about me figuring out a solution than following set pieces but I think this video made Thief sound like a bad game, which it isn't, it is a great fun game.
Dishonored has a hub you can explore too, the hound pits
Yeah, no, sorry. Thief 2014 really is just quite an abysmal game
After played dishonored 2, i prefer corvo didnt talk at all.
Dishonored you could be 100% stealthy if you wanted to be, much better game imo
The Thief reboot isn't worth the space on your hard drive, match dishonored up against the older Thief games and you might have a reasonable challenge.
agreed
imo there tied.
Though if the Thief games were remade (original ones), they would win.
Speaking as a hard core Thief fan from way back, I have to say, Dishonored does edge out this Thief reboot in playability. Not necessarily for the gameplay for me. I love Garret's new city and the thieving, but the mechanics of saving the game (three save slots? What?) and the disastrous map in Thief made the game bloody annoying.
In Dishonored, I can replay any mission I want after I'm done. In Thief, I have to start the game and get to the start point on the map and then play, again, a huge pain with that map.
The main flaw is the storyline. Dishonor's is clearly superior. The creators of the new Thief game jettisoned practically everything that made the Thief world cool: Mechanists and Pagans and such. They had character. The storyline in the new Thief was weak and centred mostly around that girl, Erin, whom I really wanted to be dead. That's not good. And the finale was HIGHLY unsatisfying.
Most annoying for me, they left the most Thief like level, The Bank Heist, OUT OF THE MAIN GOD DAMN GAME! How stupid is that?
Take that game engine for Thief, write a more Thief like story with the factions we love, multiple save slots and the ability to replay missions from the main menu once completed... and we'd have a serious contender to Dishonored.
+John Westcott Your one of the more rational Thief fans I've seen around with this comment. I do agree a better story that brings back the original stuff from the series that I've only read about, and you have the makings of a much better game. I never got the chance to play the original games in the Thief series but I've looked it up and I liked what I read, an actual follow up or complete remake with the story from then with modern graphics on a console that i actually have like the PS4 and I'd enjoy it quite a lot.
ShinKyuubi I thought the recent Thief had great game play. Very in keeping with the originals. The story was piss poor. The most Thief like level in the game, The Bank Heist, and they leave it out of the main game!
STUPID AS HELL!
The bank level on Thief 2: The Metal Age was one of my favourites of all time and a standout from the entire series. I liked the whore house one. That wasn't too bad. I liked the side missions (There weren't nearly enough of those.) and the villain and story was rather blah.
Use the exact same engine and reboot the series with the original characters like the Pagans and Hammers/Mechanists and make more mansion thieving, more bank thieving, etc. and it would be great (Oh, and the voice acting sucked. The new guy playing Garrett just sounded bored.) Bring the original dude back. They said they didn't have him back because he couldn't mo-cap, which was stupid. They could have had someone mo-cap and still had the original voice actor. Darth Vader can be played by multiple facets of different people. Why not Garrett?
Dishonored has much better story and some major thief elements to make it a good stealth game. It is a shame, since it is clearly inspired by the originals. It outshone the reboot.
+John Westcott bank heist is in the game what do you mean?
Legomaker60
What he means is that it's DLC, not part of the game perse. It's set apart from the story of the main game.
ShinKyuubi EXACTLY. Thank you.
Dishonored is amazing and I just hope dishonored 2 will live up to the first. Which if they continue to focus on the right things and follow the story it should be
If you watch and analyze the gameplay of Dishonored 2, you can see that there have been major changes in a good way,
for example:
Verticle movement
Powers
More RnG
More encounters
More options for Low and High Chaos
And many more things that make Dishonored 1 like it's Dishonored 2's little brother (if you really think about it) but that's before the proper game is released so any of these could be changed but lets hope they don't
I think Dishonored 2 is going to blow the stealth genre out of the water. It really looks like Dishonored 1 but with more EVERYTHING. And after that, theres a few new things.
Sorry for replying now but what is RnG?
dishonored 2 is coming out in nov 11...
G-Unit1020 I got it yesterday and it's fun! I have 5 hours so far
If you're action gamer, Dishonored is better for you. If you're a strict stealth gamer, Thief is better for you. Frankly speaking, I enjoyed playing both games despite a lot of people despise the latest game Thief.
You forgot to mention Thief has no Whiskey nor Cigars
Advantage: Choffer
+Adrian Kiel The new Thief doesn't even have taffer.
Thief also doesnt have squad
Advantage: Witchcraft
Thief is a good game. Watching this video makes me think that this guy has not even completed mission 1
sandvitch diabeetus It's clear that you're a fan of the old Thief games, and haven't given the new game an honest try yet.
There's a lot of people that have hated the new game since before it came out for not being the same game that they loved. The original Thief games were good, but they had a lot of problems with them that.. if made in a modern game would make the game unreachable.
My Opinion on both games and yes i have played both of them
Dishonored : Better story and more stuff to do ( i loved the game for all you could do and forge in the game )
Thief : So much better gameplay and to do the ghost level isnt as easy as in Dishonored.
For me i dont really need the story if the gameplay is good so Thief wins for me.
me to
Dishonored would take on most of the currently developed games. It's way too quality made.
I feel like that last category should've been won by Thief.
true
Only if they were talking about the originals. Which they weren't.
thief = REAL TRY HARD dishonored is no try hard why in game have powers :p
@@RottenLentejas in dishonored you have an option to never use any abilities (there's an achievement for this too), shit, never even use weapons for god sake. Just stealth around and choke/avoid enemies. The level design is THAT good, it allows you to play in any way you can think of.
@@ShiningMixer wait fr? I tried to find a way back up dunwall tower without using any ability (unless double jump doesn't count) and I got stumped on the piping
Kind of hard to compare the two because the stealth itself is so much different. Dishonored is a little ridiculous, you're blinking around slowing down time, running on rooftops, etc. whereas Thief is very grounded in its stealth.
The only areas you can really compare them are in level design, where Dishonored is the clear winner. The game takes far more inspiration from Thief: The Dark Project and the first Deus Ex than Thief does in it's level design. The levels are open and intricate, the best path is far less evident and it makes for an extremely organic stealth experience that doesn't feel engineered. Thief falls into the same trappings as Deus Ex: Human Revolution as far as level design where you choose from 3 relatively obvious paths to get through each linear section. Thief ends up being the worse of the two because it's so cramped, in DX3 it's harder to notice the design flaws because the areas are much larger.
Dishonored is a beautifully crafted game with satisfying gameplay, beautiful art direction, convincing world, moving story, fine voice actors and a badass protagonist, Thief on the other hand is a mess
Father Karras
fair enough but I respectively disagree about Dishonored, I agree thief 4 is a turd, the original thief games have not aged well
Father Karras yea i enjoyed them for what they were but i wont be revisiting them anytime soon
Father Karras I can agree with this, Corvo was very one dimensional in that he had no actual "substance" to his character being all silent and making no decisions whatsoever other than to kill or spare people. Honestly though I did like the dark atmosphere that was presented, albeit not as good as the thief series it was still a plus. Compared to the thief games the writing is a bit lackluster in dishonored (the predictable plot is basically poor writing don't see why it needed that double emphasis). The thief series had an amazing way to meld the simple thievery of Garrett and make it much more than that with crazy supernatural plots. In dishonored there was a bit of back story and world building in readings that you find around the place, similar to thief but not as interesting and dark. Thief was AMAZING for its time, presently its still a good game but the gameplay isn't as amazingly smooth as you're making it out to be. Overall Dishonored was a good try at the stealth genre with more refining it could be as good as thief, but it wouldn't be the same.
smilyface38 what about the DLC's?
pepper Mill The dlc's were fun and they did have some story, I liked playing as the main bad guy and seeing his perspective.
So many people will hate on GameSpot now. Anyway I mostly agree wit this, just that Thief IS more focused on stealth then Dishonored.
It's not a race...Both games are good.Just enjoy them
Great video. Dishonored was clearly better and much, much more fun to play.
Says the one who has never played the other game...
Miro Parkkonen I played it and i'm dissapointed . Thief will never be a GOTY like dishonored because it doesn't feel good ! The graphics aren't great for those system requirements . It's not worth spending your money on a mediocre game like thief !
@@jincangu How do you know he didn't play the other game? You don't have any proof about it
Dishonored is one of my favorite game.
I have recently played Thief aswell, but i didnt have the feeling after I finished to play with it again.
Blow off, Choffer!
You're such a choffer.
Another night, another patrol with you.
Sans Puns for days,A skeleTon You always amuse me.
Should we gather for whiskey and cigars tonight?
Stupid gamespot. They may as well have titled this video :why dishonoured is better than thief
NO i likesd the title. having a vs video without a "tie until the last criteria".
Whats the point of having a comparison when Dishonored mops the floor in every category? He should have addressed that Thief is widely considered to be the inferior game and what elements of Dishonored, the superior game, it could implement to itch a straight up stealth experience. There is absolutely room for Thief in a world in which Dishonored exists, it just needs to be a better game.
Thief looks nicer... but the lack of free-jumping and the inability to climb when you want is such a bummer. I'd rather play a game without superpowers, but this linear game is full of load screens and invisible barriers. It really just doesn't have much going for it.
you do have superpowers. the weird focus thing, lets you see through walls and such and has been confirmed as a superpower by the studio who made the game
frittern13 compare it with.. I dunno maybe teleporting? maybe summoning rats! or maybe possessing creatures! or .. maybe stopping time! oh my or maybe ALL OF THEM TOGETHER! it's 1 to 5 or even more! this comparing was totally UNFAIR! just cuz you have focus so what? focus for Thief is like runner's vision to mirror's edge! they show you the path and nothing else! while dishonored you can go into fully opened LITERAL massacre with your ultra super nature FULLY UPGRADED nature defying powers!
invesibel Focus in thief is magical powers. I think it is hardly unfair to simply say that you have superpowers when you actually do. I never compared them or said that they was comparable.
***** You can see through the wall and find wires and such.
frittern13 to be percice its magical power is just dark magic its the most common stealth like magic in a stealthy game... but its weired how its the only magic type in stealth games why not different ones ... and I wasent trying to be mean in the begining of the sentece
Dishonored is better
***** Clearly you like Thief better, but that doesn't mean people can't like Dishonored. Let people have their own opinions. No one is complaining about you liking Thief, are they?
***** You are really a genius huh?Fuck you...Shut the fuck up?mmmm you discovered these sentences yourself?Keep watching wrestling it enhances your mind hahahah
***** Are you ok bro?
Dishonored also had some lovely moments of humour. The boneheaded conversations between the guards are hysterical. 'How old was your sister again?' 'Blow off, choffer!" etc.
wow...biased to dishonored much?
am I the only one who thought dishonored was shit?
add me to your list.
yep only one.......give or take a few cod fanboys
It's not shit, but it was never as entertaining as the first two Thief games, nor was there any scary oh-shit-let-them-not-find-me moments like in Thief 3's the Cradle.
I love how kids who grew up on 360 and PS3 full of shooter games played dishonored and think it's the best game ever, when they've never played real stealth or strategy games (and probably never will) and now they think they are so fucking smart.
This is bit of a tangent, but I remember playing Commandos and Desperados, where you REALLY had to use your head and be creative. People who played dishonored and thought it was "smart" would probably shut those games off in a matter of minutes.
***** commandos and desperados eh? those were for which consoles? I wanna search them and have a good look, was it xbox and ps2? if they were i'll check for iso images and try them out
ok, i see, Dishonored is the money worth. damn, i should stop writing my custom story based on thiefs atmosphere then. bye thief, hello dishonored.
Fenryr 3001
good point there, ok.
no competition at all Dishonored still the best
The older thief games are a masterpiece. Even the thief 3(deadly shadows) was a great game, even thou they changed the game's mechanics completely, it still had a great story. I was completely disapointed with thief 4... they seemed to care more about the realism than everything else. I was so happy yo hear that my childhood game was being released again, and then... a very sentimental garrett, without stephen russel's voice... no hammerites, no pagans... it was a complete disaster...
I never played Thief because I feel like it'd make me want to play Dishonored instead.
brian sheehan i made the mistake of literally going from playing dishonored to thief literally from one disc to another and the whole time i wanted to go play dishonored even though ive beaten it dozens of times
Dishonored is more of an assassin game than a stealth one. Subtle differences.
I haven't played neither title, but I honestly think the "player creativity" shouldn't count. In this factor, both games are completely different. Thief is more "realistic" (I put that in quotes cause some things are beyond reality like focus and water arrows) so you would use more realistic tactics than Dishonored. Dishonered has supernatural powers, which obviously breaks reality, and you can do what ever. In a way, you can count these factors against both games, but imho I would. But that's just my 2 cents.
The way the two does stealth is fundamentally different, and i think that is more important than one focuses more on superpowers than the other.
Thief takes more of the ghost type stealth approach, where as dishonered is more of a action stealth type game. of course you can ghost there too, but the way they do stealth is just different
I used absolutely zero realistic tactics in Thief. You know what my tactic in Thief was? Run to the next area, because they stop chasing you once you get to the next area. 5 guys are chasing you? That's okay. Just run to the building you're supposed to run to and they'll just leave you alone.
I feel that despite it's decent reviews Dishonered had a very short spurt of attention and eventually became underrated. Dishonered is probably the best stealth orientated game I've played, period. It's art direction left a big impression for me... I hope the concept art industry realizes how important Dishonered was.
hopefully the Thief devs take in some of the criticisms and make a better game the next time around
with this feedback i'm afraid this maybe thief's last stop; people are just inflexible to accept all the hard work placed in this new recent released game.
invesibel There has been talk about a sequel already.
Knightshield keep dreaming, they will do the same...
look at the same EIDOS, sending a letter about the new hitman, then, look at it when it comes out, and you will see how shit its going to be, and promises got taken by the wind.
invesibel I agree. For the most part, the only real core fanbase left for the Thief games are people that are hardcore lovers of the original Thief games, and any change, modernization, "dumbing down," or making the game easier in any aspect for some reason makes them incredibly angry.
AGiantPie Well, I'm one of those hardcore fans, and I'll say that I don't mind changes but they of course shouldn't be for the worse. I haven't played through it all, but so far I feel like I'm in very small levels in which the game seems to be more in control than I am. And that's a negative thing, because this game will ensure that many people will have similar experiences instead of different experiences. Also, it is buggy, the subtitles isn't even synced with the speech in one of the cutscenes. This is so far no AAA product.
I just don't like the cartoony graphic's of dishonored
If graphic is all you care about then you shouldn't be gaming scrubs
Alfred Roy hence the reason why i said "just"
But this means that you liked the game in the other characteristics, i personally liked the graphic in Dis, it remember me a picture in movement, very evocative
I thought it was perfect
Graphics dosent count. Gameplay does.
take a look at CRYSIS. The graphics in the game are so unnecessarily OP
but the gameplay isnt that good. the campaign was a bit short as well
Thief: The Dark Project/Gold = Thief 2: The Metal Age >> Thief: Deadly Shadows >>>> Dishonored >>> Thief (2014).
Thief Gold>Thief Deadly Shadows> Thief the Dark Project>Thief 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dishonored>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thief
Blow off, Choffer!
The original thief games aren't even close to Dishonored. They were still great, but no where close to as amazing as Dishonored.
Ty Pallotta
No.
Ty Pallotta Absolutely not. Dishonored isn't even a good game for more than just subjective reasons.
I played Dishonored, loved Dishonored and have never played Thief, but this seems biased.
They don't try to accomplish the same at all. I don't even know why or how you can compare them. The thing is pretty simple. Both are great games and here is the main difference:
Dishonored puts you in the role of a supernatural being, pursuing which ever goal you choose to. It's your own way with the tools and powers given.
Thief is literally 'Thief'. It's like a Thief-Simulator where you play somewhat a realistic thief that lets you interactively take on the role of such.
Every body says Dishonored is a Rip off of Thief.
Well, awkward Moment when Rip off is better than the Original.
I liked Dishonored very well, some complain about Graphics, well yea Graphics are cool IMO and the Animation effects are very Good. Best Game for me IMO, looking forward to Dishonored 2
How the hell can Dishonored be a ripoff of Thief, when Thief came out two years AFTER Dishonored?
... Unless you're talking about Dishonored being better than the ORIGINAL Thief: The Dark Project from the 90s. Which would be hilarious, because A) the original Thief came out over a DECADE earlier than Dishonored so it's a pathetic comparison to begin with, and B) the original Thief does a lot of things better than Dishonored does still. Many will argue that the original Dark project is better than Dishonored. And I am one of those.
Dishonored is nowhere near as good as the thief originals. For one thing, the level size are way too small, and it never really even is a scary experience. And how the guards run in Dishonored is quite comical.
MrJenssen You know that this is the FORTH Thief game right? Some of those who worked on Dishonored worked on the previous thief games.
Hirnlego999
I'm not quite sure what your point is.
What? Who complains about the graphics are good! For the art style they tried to achieve, the result was incredible. They wanted to make it like a "dark-cartoon" kind of way. Thief was more focused on realism and they acomplished it.
@ Madara Uchia
yes, when playing Thief and Disnonrod both with no alerts, only stealth takedowns and no the hightes setting, Thief's stealth gameplay, looting and atmosphere (and level structures) are better... , but Disonored has other strengths (story, more polished and an epical "beam/teleport" skill, that can be used for stealthing),
in this case, if you Love Stealth, you'll love Thief as much as Disonored... (Disonored is the overall better "game", while Thief is the overall better "stealth game".., people who don't like or understand stealth, will not really undestand Thief..., it has to be played on master, with most custom settings on..)
Holy shit a gamespot comparison that isn't biased towards a brand new $60 product. A kernel of faith in my old soul has been restored.
Ahhh Dishonored was soooo good! I wish they'd make a sequel although that might ruin it.
They will make a sequel :) www.gamespot.com/articles/leaked-dishonored-2-logo-reveals-possible-sequel-report/1100-6418080/
Lucas Cmok they have made a sequal (3 years later)
Lucas Cmok (And it ruined it)
Riskystache (nah it was good)
The sequel ruined it :(
thief is a great game.the atmosphere and art style is amazing better than any other games and graphic as well .just remember the asylum chapter from theif,wow blows my mind,A.I is bad,goddamn loading screen too but that's it.gameplay is amazing,graphic and level design are unique.i enjoy it more than dishonored.
THANK YOU the first person to actually appreciate a genuinely good game
icyhot Sam if you like the more realistic feel of thief, have fun. i realy liked how you could play dishonored in so many diferend ways, and i loved the world, but i am also the kind of guy who knows way to mutch of about the elderscrolls world. i think the problem with thief is that it is just good but not as unique as the previus thiefs games.
icyhot Sam finally someone has taste.
Honestly, Dishonored was a better overall experience, action, story, atmosphere, combat etc. BUT Thief is looking to be the better STEALTH game. By far, tbh.
That last advantage made no sense. After platinuming Thief and Dishonored, Dishonored is definitely a lot more fun in many ways. However, Thief definitely pulls off the first person immersion much better, and is very consistent with movements and controls.
Great vid with excellent points.
Dishonored is clearly the more faithful spiritual successor to the original Thief trilogy, especially in the level design. Thief 2 in particular designed buildings and other environments as "real" spaces and leaves it up to the player to find their own way in. Dishonored followed that same design philosophy, unsurprisingly given Dishonored had a bunch of original Thief team members working on it.
Meanwhile nuThief seems takes the DX:HR approach where approaches are restricted to one of several fixed paths. In DX:HR these paths were combat, vents/stealth or social. In what I've seen of nuThief the choices seem to boil down to just "this window or that door." I haven't played nuThief myself yet so I'll reserve final judgement until I do but right now I'm more excited about a possible Dishonored 2.
I haven't played Dishonored and it's mainly because I don't like the idea of having superpowers. So for me it doesn't matter what people says, I'd rather play Thief over Dishonored. Also, am I the only one that think the graphics in Thief looks much better than Dishonored?
I see that we have different definitions of immersion. Immersion to me is about connection with the world and with the character mainly and Thief with its body-awareness fulfilled my need. Dishonored felt very liberating to play but character connection was not established IMO. For me, Thief wins in immersion and also overall, though I love both games and what they currently offer.
Exactly.
That's your opinion but objectively Dishonored is by far the superior game.
Dont get me wrong I love dishonored but I feel like the breakdown might have been a bit bullshit
#teamthief
***** 6.1/10 c:
***** don't know xD
+AesirGamer The comparisons they chose to make were clearly chosen to make Dishonored look better. If they wanted to make an unbiased comparison they would have chosen general topics but these were very specific.
+Omar Asfari Then, let's do this. Please provide FIVE different things we should look at. Then, the CZcams community will give it's critique for each.
To me, Thief is the one who is more superior in stealth, he could rob Corvo blind, maybe not if Corvo had Dark Vision on, but he doesn't always, Thief feels very nimble when I play as him, unlike the buff power-horse Corvo, or in the DLC's the rubber and leather clothed Daud, who would realistically be squeaking around. Besides the Dishonored AI's are programmed to be absolute dipshits, blaming anything they see or hear on rats, sometimes even if they got confronted by Corvo physically. But in power, Corvo is the obvious winner. He can summon rats that would devour you in mere seconds, shatter your bones against the wall with Windblast II, use bloodlust which is like rage mode from Force Unleashed 2, slow time or completely stop it, teleport, increase his health, increase his agility, possess animals or people, acquire various charms with powers, and last of all, great sword skills. Corvo has a cause, that is fulfilled by the mood of the player, to be brutal and get revenge, or to move along, and focus on what he needs. Theif just mainly steals things, which wasn't a hard created plot, but massively entertaining. And don't get me started on ass shit creed, the first game was stealthy, the ones after that ruined the feeling, making the characters seem more like nimble warriors than stealthy assassins.
Dishonored is a sandbox game more than stealth, Thief has some sandbox elements but is more about stealth.
I only played Dishonored once but I'm pretty sure it's not a sandbox. It has big levels but they are still levels. You get taken by boat to different locations throughout the game to complete certain tasks... I haven't played Thief yet but I agree that stealth is probably more important. In Dishonored I often got spotted after like an hour of careful progression and ended up having to murder dozens of guards that I had bypassed earlier. While I wanted to play stealthy... I could turn into a one man killing machine a lot easier.
Grumpy Catterman Well I'd put Dishonored down as a sandbox type game because it allows you to pursue any playstyle you want.
In Dishonored if you're caught, as you mention, you can just kill anything that moves.
In Thief you're kinda stuffed if you get found.
sadly, dishonored plays much better than thief, the guys who made the thief reboot just didnt understand that fans of the series want big levels and more posibilities, not fucking graphics
sidewaysfcs0718 Thief ended up suffering from: being in production for so long (like stuff that would have been fine early to mid gen 7 still being present cause it was done early on), trying to cater to alternate styles of play (ie other than pure stealth) but never truly embracing them and it quickly becoming apparent that you weren't really free to play as you wanted to (patterns, rope arrows only working in set places, etc)..
remove focus cheating, make it truly a open world, allow players to plan there own paths and strategies. how hard can it be for a developer to actually listen to fans?
neither thief nor dishonored has made a truly great stealth game yet.
Focus is an option. You can turn it off.
Come on... Thief might not be perfect but you can in no way say that it's developers weren't listening to their fans. They made massive changes from the games first trailer to release based on listening to player concerns.
i don't like how he said "that thief doesn't deserve it name" or something like that, but dishonored is an assassin game encouraging you to kill while thief is a thief game making you stay in the shadows avoiding most types of combat at all times
What? No. You choose your path, the main goal in Dishonored is to save the city. Your actions define and mold the fate of the city and the next mission, who knows if the 3 guards you just killed caused you to lose for dying to a rat swarm in the next level, the stealth in Dishonored ALWAYS rewards by reducing the number of guards to the missions to come.
EpicShroomie
No Dishonored doesn't reduce guards when you stealth a level, it just doesn't ADD them. Not being penalized is not a reward, it's neutral.
Really? Wow didn't know, sorry.
Dishonored seemed like a great game but your pretty much overpowered and it looks easy as hell where in thief it kinda takes skill to do certain thing but in the stealth aspect in thief would make you feel like an ACTUAL THIEF doing devious things where in dishonored your mostly relying on your powers and teleporting and stuff
So many Dishonored cry babies.. I bet you my life that 95% of the people commenting below haven't even played the original thief games and they all talk as if they did. Dishonored is a great game, but god stop shitting on Thief, it's a fantastic game, just because you can't blink your way through the city or shoot people which defeats the entire idea of stealth doesn't make it a bad game.
Diahonored is not a bad game in that sense, they merely took what was missing out of Thief (Violence, creative killing, creative ways of going trough levels), made it OP and fun, gave you a better ending (witch is a reward in a game) if you used the Thief aproach to the game (stealth, no killing etc.) See my point?
Harrison Smith What game are you playing? The shadows work better in Thi4f than they ever did in the original series. There are at least a dozen occasions I've had an enemy staring me right in the face at less than a foot away in Deadly Shadows, but not seeing me because I was pressed up against the wall. Wait until nightfall and ask someone you know to crouch in the darkest corner they can find in a room (without you knowing which corner). How close do you have to get to see them?
Both games are GREAT! They just suit different tipes of people! If you want to go on a killing spree and blast your way trough the game, then Dishonored is the game for you, if you preffer a stealth aproach then you can have waaaay more fun in thief, as it utilizes the stealth mechanics in a much more fun way! Dishonored has a very nice stealth system, but it seems so dull compared to the shit you can do violently!
Harrison Smith That's the lighting and bad art direction. But the shadow system still works better than in the previous Thief games.
Harrison Smith I didn't. In fact the game does a pretty good job at showing where you can hide and where you can't. The shadow system is so binary; it's either you're hidden or you're not. The small light gem on the bottom left corner goes from black, grey and white. White means you're in the light and black means you're in the dark. That doesn't mean whether you're hidden or not; it just tells you what lighting you're in.
Dishonored was always going to be the clear winner here.
If Dishonored is better than the new Thief in terms of stealth than that's sad.
***** Well sadly that seems to be the case. They rated Dishonored a 9 but Thief a 6.
VoodooRabbit Garuda They also share the same setting and are inspired by the old Thief games. I do agree with you in a way. Dishonored is much more focused on action while Thief is based more around stealth.
VoodooRabbit Garuda they are not very different, both are based on the previous Thief games. Both games although executed differently resulted in one getting the best part of the old Thief games. and CoD and BF are the same game, one of the only difference is the one seems more tactical than the other.
Matthew Bunton I could care less about scores from Gamespot. Alot crticisisms GS applied to Thief can apply to Dishonored. The only reason why Thief was bashed was because of current gen.
Came for Dishonored. Have absolutely no idea what Thief is.
I like Dishonored but in my opinion it is not a true stealth game. Corvo has way more fighting skills, weapons and superhuman abilities than Garrett. In Thief the protagonist must rely mainly on his stealth skills and "Focus" to survive and complete the mission and is vulnerable to most attacks from his enemies.
Playing dishonored now. LOVE it! Main thing i want to see in the next game.. NO load screens. Seriously. I want and open world like GTA.
The best game I have ever played in my whole life PERIOD.....it's been a year since I haven't played dishonored, guess I will play it right now.
Another thing. Play the goty edition, its totally worth it. You will get it on torrents, about 7gb if you are lucky, or 16gb
+brandon9271 I don't think open world would be a good idea. Dishonored's non-open world made it very focused. it might benefit from larger levels but I really don't think making it open world would improve it. The devs had manageable areas with excellent ways to get around all over the place. I feel like making it open world would make it that much harder to make getting around as immersive and varied because they would have to focus on making the whole world like that and it would likely make it incredibly hard to make the entire world like that. I love my open-world sandbox games, but I don't think Dishonored should be one of those games.
Yeah, i liked the linear gameplay of Dishonored. I don't really want it open in the gameplay sense i guess.. But i wish the engine could seemlessly transition without loading zones. The loading time really slowed the pace at times. Especially when you're in a tough spot and die a lot. On my system it takes 30-45 seconds to load. That's frustrating if you get killed a lot of want to start over because you are detected
Codytheawesome1 I love the idea of an open world dishonored game. So many times have I wished to swim ashore to another side of the river, but I could not. For a game like dishonored it would work very very well.
I would also like the option of driving boats myself, and the ability to operate tall boys.
Imo there should be a open world/non open world settings that you could choose from. Dishonored is a beautiful world that perfectly deserves an open world settings. I would love it way better than far cry 4 and GTA.
+brandon9271 i don't think that would be good, levels should remain detailed, so much work goes into each level which makes it great. Though if it was open world, there would be a lot of side quests which would make it bland.
I preordered Thief for 44$.
But Gamespot just nailed it.
I don't know why they are making a sequel to dishonored but as long as it lives up to the original i won't complain
dishonored
1. better combat even when going for stealth you can simply strangle a grad
2. bigger map ( even on mission )
3. in a way better stories and better mission
4. better free running
theif
1. better graphics which adds the extra touch for a stealth game
2. more better animation when assonating somebody
3. you can hide in lockers and under tables and beds
4. more intense mission
I would go for dishonoured, I always like that when you was caught you could quickly kill him without grads seeing you. You also can kill people in style or creative this also made a stealth game fun and epic in a way. But one thing dishonored do is better graphics, but it was a game made in 2012.
I agree but uh.. In dishonerd you can hide under tables and hid in big trash bins... Those details are important to me
ive never played thief, and by the looks of thief, it is no where near as good as dishonoured, and dishonoured gives you a lot more choices, so for me, I LOVE DISHONOURED WAY MORE!
"I've never played thief and by the looks of it, it is nowhere near as good as Dishonored."
...First off, PPFFFTTTT, BUAHAHAHAHA!!! XD
Second off, way to judge a book by its cover. Gamespot just makes Thief look bad.
Third off, check my most recent comment: why Thief is better.
dishonored rocks ive never played thief
Pree Spunky TIDF please go
I played thief before dishonoured and have nearly finished both I say nearly because the thief campaign got boring (even though chapter 6 insane asylum got check it out so fucking scary) whereas I started playing dishonoured yesterday and I'm not going to stop
There's old ones too. There way better than than the new ones.
Dishonored 2 will be relased on 11 november 2016
tauseeq abbas It will be released tommorow for those who preordered!!!
I haven't played the older Thief games, but Dishonored is way better than the new Thief game. I just feel like a sneaky badass. I don't like that much challenge in my videogames that much so it was perfect for me. I still felt clever solving the puzzles, but Thief just felt boring. The Bow and Arrow isn't nearly as cool or as fun to play around with as Dishonored. All the additional paths felt artificial.
Plus, the optional encounters in Dishonored insane.
If this was Dishonored against TDP and TMA, er even TDS, there would be no contest.
I'll put it like this: I looked at Thief and thought "well, this looks like a good LOOKING game in atmosphere and I like sneaking about". Then, I've heard of things such as being stuck at points of no return in levels. That is not good, considering Thief's open ended history.
Dishonored is one of my favorite games. I've beaten it and the alternate story DLCs because to me, it's a good stealth action blend, the setting is awesome, there is an abundance of lore, and the way the powers and gadgets are implemented is good. I dunno, chalk it up to personal taste.
Need dishonoured 2
While Thief 4 was announced only a few years after the release of Thief: Deadly Shadows, much of the team quit for personal reasons. When the brothel level was being designed, many more of the designers complained that they felt "wrong" working on it, prompting them to quit as well. I think it's possible that Thief 4 was supposed to be "Dishonored" before Dishonored was, and that some members of the team that used to work on the project went to Bethesda and offered to give them the ideas that were originally intended for Thief 4, either to win the favor of their higher-ups, or possibly more casually.
Rare to see a video that is completely right from Gamespot.
the only thing that is better in thief than dishonored is a sprint system its so sick but overall thief sucks as compare to dishonored
Dishonored "beam/teleport" skill was epical.., and Dishonored was best played 100% stealth (on master, with 0 alarms & 0 kills)
but in terms of pure stealth gameplay (and amtosphere) besides looting => Thief ist better... (not the "overall" better game, but the better "stealth" game, what many fans actually wanted)
but of course only if played on master with most custom setting on (especially 0 Alerts, no focus, no damage, only stealth takedowns ect...)
and the dude here in the vid is a fool, the city hub is totally cool, and he nippicked things, that Dishonored did better, to make Dishonored look like it's superior on all accounts, which Disonored is NOT.. , Thief does a few (important) things better, like mentioned in the stealth and atmosphere department.. (but sure, overall I'd say Dishonroed is stil the better game, but Thief is nowhere that bad as many are trying to make it be => it's due to incompetent reviewers who get frustrated over the difficultish game and punish it with low scores.., like EMG, Gamespot or IGN..)
Thief doesnt Reach Dishonored in any category.
yes it does
What category is that?
@@AxelVenturatheboss I feel sad for you not getting any answers for 3 years, so let me answer for him real quick:
*S T E A L T H *
I actually didn't play thief up to this moment so idk if that is correct but just saying what i heard from people playing the both
Bot Rip Yeah I played thief was a decent game dishonored still trumps it way more creativity in terms of gameplay.
@@AxelVenturatheboss Indeed, i believe so.
This new Thief game is just a port of Dishonored in the thief universe, and it doesn't even execute it well. Where are the Mechanists? Where are the Hammerites? Pagans? The trickster? Sure it has some good storyline and neat plot twists, but that would be perfect if it wasn't labeled "Thief" but it does.
This is what Dishonored didn't do and that's why it worked. The makers either willingly or unwittingly knew that making a modern graphics and gameplay engine game branded Thief would simply not work cause nobody these days can reproduce classic game's climate nor the old gamers would accept it. So they went berserk with originality, put all the stealth elements they could from Thief, gave it a unique story, unique universe, unique plot and simply made a Thief game that was completely not Thief. People can still say this is just a discount Thief, but than again, they can't blame it for ruining Thief franchise like it may be said about this new Thief game.
Apparently, Thief wasn't only a reboot but a sequel too. It's like 100 or 1000 years or some shit, but kind of hard to say that with the lack of technology, like, what happened.
Edward James Kenway The technology was still there. It may be speculated that people simply got sick of the BS of the hammerites & mechanists and were resentful of technology in general, hence the disdain for the Baron who wished to bring progress. And I can't blame them to a degree; First you get a bunch of fanatics trampling trees cause they think they're agents of evil, than an even worse bunch of terrorist fanatics who wanted to build a world only for robots, and the only alternative is a bunch of lunatics worshiping a devil.
Thief The Dark Project and Thief 2 The Metal Age kick the shit of Dishonored, but duh it's better than the shitty reboot.
Dishonored had some great ideas and truly shined on occasion but it's a deeply flawed game, The original Thief games weren't big on story but at least they put it at the side and didn't interrupt the gameplay.
Dishonored just can't get off unless you listen to at least 15 minutes of lifeless dialogue and boring character interactions that serve no character development or levity. It also contained one of the most predictable twists of the past few years. Having to go back to the Loyalist HQ between every mission served just to test my patience. The story really got in the way of my enjoyment of the game because it's so obnoxious in the way that it presents it.
The original Thief games story was minimal and didn't get in the way, and it's still more interesting than Dishonored's, but the best strength it has is Garret, one of the best protagonists gaming has ever had. His cynical remarks and dry wit make him instantly likable and give the game a great protagonist for us to grow attached to.
Corvo is a Silent protagonist with no personality and his only defining characteristic is to choose between good and evil options. BORING!
The gameplay of Dishonored was really fantastic with some of the best level design in years, but that only lasted so long, because after the twist, stealth kind of fades into the background as the game becomes more about platforming and monster killing and really looses a sense of identity.
The original Thief had the same issue, and focused too much on monster killing, but Thief 2 corrected that.
That's your opinion. You are one of those people who like the gameplay, which is alright. But I'm just one of those people who like depth put into a game, I read all the letters and books. Learned some things about the game. Like Emily is Corvo daughter, but wanted to keep secret from even her.
Corvo isn't silent, he just doesn't have a voice actor. The game was short with high replay value. And I like Thief too, but I only just started it so you keep what you know from that for I am an absolute newbie to that game.
fluffygreen6 Of course it's my opinion, I'm just saying I found Dishonored to be extremely inconsistent, gameplay great, story pretty awful in comparison.
Even though Dishonored is one of my favorite games for all the reasons you went into, this is an incredibly fair and reasoned explanation. Also it's a lot better than the Thief reboot, which is a very mediocre game.
Brian Schroeder I think if they made a sequel and improved the problems it could be a phenomenal game. It has the potential to be one of the best games ever if they could get some better writers on board and sand down the rough edges.
***** No but he's got a badass robotic eye after getting it plucked out at the end of Thief TDP.
Still waiting for Dishonored 2 here :D
***** But ít true :P Dishonored 2 is coming :V
Demons Player Spring of 2016
TheFishBowlBirdie Cant wait XD
+Demons Player me either I'm more excited about dishonored 2 than fallout 4
Hemibuzz Gaming :> The good friend of mine
I love Dishonored. I am hoping that a sequel is announced in the next couple years.
I am from the future bro.....dishonored 2 is going to release and there is another too the death of the outsider.
we still waiting
I played thru Dishonored +10 times and I've pre ordered Thief. Now these two shouldn't be compared to each other as Thief is more 'hardcore' stealth game, where you're not op against guards. Where as Dishonored there's no light level and all is based on enemy seeing you in his line of sight. In Dishonored you can kill all enemies in a single mission easily without being worried about getting killed, also those 'magical' Outsider's powers make the game no doubt a lot more fun to play but also gives that easy feel to the game, as you can blink thru every mission not killing anyone. Both are great games but Thief is more like the old Splinter Cell games, hard and even more harder if you decide to make it a challenge. Now obviously you can make Dishonored hard by not using magic or not killing anyone, but it's still not as hardcore as I feel Thief being.
(It's actually impossible to complete Dishonored without using your Outsider powers at all. There's a few sections of the game where you need agility or blink to pass).
AGiantPie I don't really think there is, would you like to point out the parts you're talking about?
TheWroster I forget which mission it was in (It was two years ago dang it). One of the CZcamsrs I watch, Gopher, was doing a LP without using any powers, and he reached a point where you had to have blink, or at least one point in agility in order to make a jump, making Dishonored's magical powers a necessary game mechanic.
***** I know. I'm saying that you cannot beat the game without using Blink /at all/
i have played every Thief game and as much as i loved Thief 1 and 2 [the first being my favourite] and even thief 3 was decent considering the atmosphere created and total immersion simply from watching a few basic almost still frame images inbetween missions.
the mysterious Keepers [now long forgot.. as are the Hammerites and the Pagans] constantly gave Garrett a hard time as he was taken in by them because of his natural thief talents, trained until he reached a certain age and left without a by-your-leave.
but the Keepers still knew of Garrett's significance in the world and how important the Keepers' tomes and information gathering was in constantly pointing to Garrett as the cause of the advancement or demise of the City.
they knew his skills were not only an asset but also a curse and would draw attention from some very powerful figures.
also, the short little Pagan or Hammerite sayings imprinted on the screen made you wonder.. "whatever is next?"
Thief 4 was way too much Thief 2:Metal Age. the culling of the weak to be replaced by mechanical golems? and it borrowed too much from Dishonoured.
Erin died far too early. Erin would have at least gotten herself locked up and perhaps Garrett would have had to break her out, teaching her certain lessons about how she should thief with less agression and maybe giving us a more intriguing storyline.
i've played Thief 4 on 3 diffeent consoles and on 2 of them the bugs were so bad that it made the game unplayable.
the PC version seems to work tho.