Army Water Bottle History | AATV EP194
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2022
- In this video Gadge and Anvil talk about the development of army water bottles through the 20th Century and beyond. We discuss British Army, US Army and Soviet Water Bottles & Canteens.
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The RAF Q Store at RAF Changi in Singapore used the 44 pattern bottles in 1969-70 as my Dad brought one home for me. I like the 58 Pattern and use one with the Crusader cup and stove as my go-too.
Love this! Would love to have a tour of Gadge's military museum some time.
The attic? Can be arranged… :)
Nalgene make a modern version of the classic US Bottle
Oh cool. I’ll have a look
LOL, I used to use the first two knocking around the woods as a kid. I'm still using the 58 pattern.
Ah cool. Thanks for watching. I like the 58 too.
I enjoyed your video
Just some additional information:
Your American M1962 plastic canteen was invented in Canada with troops were being issued them in 1960. The US adopted them in 1962 with first issue in 1963.
The US NBC or CBRN cap was made in 1966 as a replacement cap, in 1981 the canteen came complete with the NBC cap.
The British military first used the NBC cap on the P'58 water bottle in 1986.
The P'44 water bottle was redesigned with a new plastic cap around 1965.
Denture cleaning tabs are good for cleaning plastic canteens, after a few cleanings it can get rid of the funky taste plastic canteens develop. As regular maintenance they clean & sanitize in one step.
Hi thanks for the info!
West German canteens and 58 pattern bottles are what I use. The W German one actually came with a job lot of DOM, 58 webbing, and etc and was standing in for a 44 pattern. I use a US post wwii (butterfly handle) and that W German canteen for BAOR events and even for my Rhodie kit. I still use that cup for BAOR with 58 bottles because of what y’all mentioned; you can cook from it.
My water bottles are a 58 pattern and a dutch army avon which is basically the same as the US water bottle
Cheers lads my grandfather is a former SAS soldier he used the 44 pattern in the desert and he told me to use a 58 pattern as its better
as somebody who was ill for a whole day at Stirling due to a dirty water carrier, CLEAN YOUR BOTTLES!!
100% agree!
I've got a Dutch green plastic and a repro US for my Nam kit but I use them for almost every game these days
Used a lot of water bottles and to me the yugo is actualy the best, especially when looking at the whole set.
The pattern 37 water bottle was based on the original 1888 water bottle. The carrier was copied from the 1908 pattern webbing. Originally the water bottle was meant to be carried in one of the internal pockets of the 37 pattern small pack with the mess tins to go in the other pocket. The introduction of the carriers for the 37 pattern webbing came about because it became apparent the men needed access to their canteens while on the march. Later carriers were a sleeve type which made access a bit easier (but not much).
The metal mug is essential in jungle warfare. you'll find every bloke has a metal for that. Hydration at a milsim game is so underated or even talked about.
Metal mug and three nails?
@@AnvilAirsoftTV exactly that! Hexi or dragon fuel under neath in a shallow hole.
Sounds like we need to do a cookers episode!
"58 pattern bottles, two, one in my belt kit, and one as a backup or quick swap from the handy bottle-sized pouch on the back of the infantry bergen. Also a big fan of the metal "Crusader" mug, with the little metal cooker thats made for it to get a brew on, and finally a jetboil.
I’ve got a crusader mug in my belt kit. We’re thinking about doing a cooking methods comparison soon.
WWI and WWII German canteens are one of my favourites!!!
Used two of the 58 bottles and metal mug for years till I was issued a US woodland camelback for TELIC 6.. still in use today 👌
I’ve got a 44 and a crusader mug. Don’t have a 43 water bottle though.
nice Conflict t-shirt
It’s easy!!!
British army canteen from WWI
Aye ❤
Hi Guys, 58 fan with a top that fits the S10 Respirator drinking straw and a metal bottom I saw you guys advocating some wee time ago!. Cadet Legacy stuff really! Oh, and a JetBoil for brewing cooking, again, you guys to blame but it all works wonderfully!
I have swedish army original water bottles to go with 804 webbing set well cleaned. Nothing else fits in the bottle pouch. And m84 bottles for Swiss surplus.
I have goetland usa army type water bottle 1.2 quart from sweden. Stainless steel.
And bcb crusader plastic bottle, but prefer the stainless steel.
The Norwegians have a canteen that’s like a mix of the Russian white plastic one and the American canteen. Strange but kinda cool
However an American canteen is my preferred way of drinking and storing water
Soviet VDV and China Type 65/78 are the best canteen mess kit but unfortunate they not have stainless steel version like US CRS canteen
Now they have 1lt flasks which are great. So much easier to pack in belt kit and fit into pack pouches
I’ve got a few of the Osprey 1 litre flasks.
Milton may corrode aluminium and steel, especially stainless steel, so you might want to try another way of sterilising metal water bottles. Steam cleaning maybe?
Good idea. Dishwasher should do it to be fair.
nice
That pouring the water on you witch video do you do that in with out slow motion send me the link will you I would like to see it please 🙏
You can pick up Dutch ww2 Alu waterbottles that are ringers for our 44 pattern water bottles except for they have a chain to lid instead of para cord on the British version. Usually come with a 44 style cover but made from the heavier 37 pattern material? If material is the right word. For next to nothing £ wise for anyone wanting that SAS or Ally belt kit set up look. They were around a fiver a set online. ( that's if there still about ) hope that helps anyone 👍
BTW drunk out of British bottles most of my life both 58 and 44 during my time in the forces, just be weary of the ones that have had screech in 🤢 won't kill you but best to thoroughly clean with boiling water first then as the boys said Milton sterilising fluid afterwards .
Great videos BTW too lads. Definitely know your stuff 😊👍
Thanks Rob. That’s a great idea about the Dutch bottles!
@@AnvilAirsoftTV I've had a quick look see if I can find a seller but unfortunately doesn't seem to be any about now ( at the moment ) nearest I can find is Danish Post ww2 ( apparently same manufacturer as our 44 pattern except for a green plastic screw type lid ) but saying out of stock. Was hoping to be able to follow up with a supplier but alas not. Sorry guys. They do come up from time to time but I guess their getting rarer these days too. Again Apologies for being the bearer of bad news so to speak lol
As far as the British water bottles in particular the black one, should remove the reddish orange rubber ring in the cap?
No that's the seal!
Белая фляга не ВДВ,а войсковая на 1,5литра,предназначена для жаркого климата.
Thanks
Ich habe Stanley Feld Bottle aus Edelstahl, ist jetzt out. Und die Pathfinder Feldflasche Kochsset - Helicon Tex,
I’ve got a TBS cookset. Similar to the pathfinder set.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV nim dass wissen mit, dir gute time bleib gesund,
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Ive got a US bottle 1965 dated same design as the green but its in translucent white plastic, hardly good camouflage wise and it appears unissued, unsurprisingly.
That’s a bit wild! I wonder if it’s a batch they didn’t add any dye too.
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