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What IS The BEST Touring BMW? | Touring On The R1300 GS & S1000 XR EP01
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- Which is the most comfortable BMW touring motorcycle, the new R1300 GS or the newly updated for 2024 S1000 XR? Well I ride both to BMW Motorrad Days in Garmisch to find out!
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I traded my XR for the GS. The XR is a comfortable sports bike. Very capable. The buzz at highway speeds and inline4 howl at 6k for hours was too much. The GS is a capable cruiser w/ great handling, better wind protection, and loafs along at 80mph. GS handles my wife on the back better as well. If you ride solo in the twisties…. XR all day long.
Nobody mentioned K1600GT, guys. It's a shame. K16GT is by far the best sport tourer of all of them! No comparison!
@@kostaschaldoupis8522 may be for you, but don't get why you want a 300kg motorcycle. Just did Pyrenees two up couldn't think any thing worse may be a hog .
Great engine, great comfort, great tech, really top heavy making low speed and parking lot maneuvers sketchy, tendency to wander at vigorous highway speeds brought me back to the RT.
@ivanhoe4766 The only negative aspect is the heavy weight in low maneuver. You should service the front suspension if you had wobbling at high speed. It's a touring tank that can follow SS bikes in corners and can drag any bike in lights. Main while it will please every wife in every trip, except off road (it was never my favorite, personally). Overall, it's the best motorcycle money can buy if you have very-very high expectations in fast hyper luxury touring usage. Please, people, dont compare the shitty Goldwing with the K1600GT cause you will not have a clue what you're comparing with.
@keithwaller4545 depends on the riders size as well. It's not the easiest bike in short riders. You need to be beautiful and handsome to ride a K1600GT. That's a reality :))))
The answer to the question is R1250 RT. Obviously.
R1250RT
@@marksenten4763 Agreed, I don't know why the RT was not considered. Maybe because any of the others does not come close.
RT or K GTR
Then I would bring up the 1600GT(L)😅 but the stock s1000xr is a super sportstouring bike.
Sorry folks but the answer is a Honda Goldwing DCT non tour. Fast, comfortable and capable of adding a 60-90ltr bag across the pillion seat in addition to the hard panniers. And yes, I do own one...
Exactly the video I needed. Trying to make my mind up between the new SXR and the MXR. Interested to watch the next video.
No hard luggage and no GPS a problem w/MXR so Brentune 2+ on my S1000XR helped!😊
Great stuff, looking forward to the rest of this series. :)
I'm liking the road trip and all the bikes. Looking forward to the next installment. The snitzel and gateau looked amazing.
Oh it was 🤩 need to go back just for that!! 😁👍
Two great bikes Chops and good to compare but surely if the title was accurate then it would include the 1250RT.
Yeah but remember the only thing the RT ain't kind to is fragile middle aged egos.... "I'm too YOUNG for a RT!!"
Who would choose the better weather protection and proper road sized wheels and tank range over a GS when you're going touring......?
Lads the super duke GT all you will ever need it will tour have fun in the mountains take to the track embrace a few sports bike what more do you need 😁😁😁
I was able to test ride both BMWs at a local dealership. They are way comfier and more practical than my H2 SX, but neither of them felt remotely as fun. The bird chirper for me is the best touring bike. Thanks for the video Chops!
Beer ice cream and bikes like it a lot what a great video 👍
Received my S1000XR (M pack + all other options) a month ago.
Using it both solo & duo with all luggages.
Tested the GS1300 and Tracer 9GT+, chose the S1000XR for its precision & sportivness.
Yeah agree with that 👍
Sidecar outfit and take Mrs LCR with you! 😁👍
Had a number of 4 cyl BMWs as courtesy bikes (S1000R, S1000XR and S100RR) whilst my K1600GT or R1200R LC Sport have been in for servicing. Totally agree with a number of other comments; white-finger inducing vibration and constant howling from the exhaust makes them totally unsuitable for touring. Fine for a quick Sunday afternoon "blast" which I guess is what most will be used for, but tiring and frankly annoying for actually going anywhere.
The K1600GT, actually not much more expensive than a well specced RT or GS, is far superior solo, and on a different planet touring with pillion. Plus the K's seat height is sensible for anyone less that 5' 10", in fact that was one reason I bought one over an R1200RT SE. A K1600GT may be just over £20k, but you can see where you're your money's gone, a 1200/1250 RT isn't much cheaper or actually much different to a £4k R1150, except it's not as well made.
Great Video Chops can’t wait for the next instalment 😊
Fantastic video really enjoyed that thanks!
Thanks Rob 👍
I just ordered the S1000XR you’re on with the tall tinted screen today, so this is quite the cliffhanger 😬 I really wanted the M-XR but needed the luggage so my girlfriend doesn’t fall off😳
Thanks for another GREAT Chopsy video ❤ can’t wait for episode 2
Hope you enjoy it! 👍
The best BMW tourer is unequivocally the K1300S... they just need to make a new one!
The K1300GT might argue about that given that it's got a bigger tank, more wind protection an electric screen and better luggage.
Filtering is legal / illegal in France (well yeah, that is France)… Although legally forbidden, it was generally practiced by motorcyclists, and generally (not always…) accepted by law enforcement forces. It has been legally tested the last 3 or 4 years in something like 20 “départements” (where there are big cities, with traffic jams all day long).
The testing was two years, that became 3, and now until after the Olympics… and rumors say 3 or 4 years were not enough and they will need a few more years.
Oh, and the best BMW for touring with my wife and 2 weeks luggage definitely is my R1250 GSA 😂
Great fun chops enjoying this trip, germany looks a must place to visit and really fancy an xr1000.
Thanks Lee 👍
Bit of a mad ride did that 20 years or so ago before you had to worry so much a silly speed limits. Just done Pyrenees though trailer our bike down. Just to borring to Motor way it and kills tyre. Plus no fun doing D roads as full of 30k and limit dropped to 80k in places to easy to get nicked.
1:59
😅😅😅😅 Pretty sure why they use M6 bolt to mount the windshield because it’s so powerful that breaks the windshield mount
Once upon a time a time Chopsy you said never a GS, which might still be true. But now we’ve got the Rukka touring jacket you’re creeping ever closer to the touring darkside!! One day, as 60 gets ever closer………
How rude! 😮. I resemble that remark... I've been Rukka'd up for years and my arse will never get near a bloody GS 😂
Haha, yeah I did feel right at home on the GS 😅
Never! Don’t join the masses!
I’ve never ridden without gloves. Bravo.
Have both a R1250RS and a gen2 S1000XR. The 1250RS is by far the better tourer. 20% more economical, and a more relaxed riding position. Had to fit a shorter screen on the XR to get rid of the dreadful wind noise.
Long day in the saddle. 😂. My back and wrists would be in bits. Defo beer o’clock after that. 👍
Hi chops great video on the bmws so far love that latest m sport stayed in that hotel in may top hotel 😂
Don't know about the bikes, but I liked the music :)
I just kept my R1250 GSA and bought an XR. There was enough difference between them for me to justify having both.
Looked like a lot of fun,thks.
The answer for me is your Suzuki GSX-S1000GX with a tune 😊
Agreed, no speed limiter, no power limited in the first 3 gears and a nice tune.
That was probably my favorite video of yours so far good job. How’s the transition from riding on the left to the right side of the road? Mentally is it easy?
From the sounds of your voice, it sounds like the GS was least comfortable .
Your buddy that was riding the mxr, what helmet was that?
Thanks buddy 👍 I'm quite used to riding on the other side of the road. But first time you do it takes some adjustment. The helmet I'm really not sure sorry, who do you mean?
Got to love a Knopper 😋 I buy them regularly!!
Nice video let’s see the rest 😊
I though I was watching some sort of food guide at the end
"Are we there yet?" 😅
The Special Escort Group that provide the Royal Family armed motorcycle ESCORT, use the BMW R1250 RT. They say it's an incredibly comfortable bike to ride for all day shift.
I think that you are wrong there. SEG use the RS.
Looking forward to the rest of this story 👍 got some new clothing to test out then Chopsy! TMF and Bruce not at all jealous 😂
Haha I saw them moaning on the podcast 😄 TMF can't talk never bought a bike outfit in his life! 😄👍
That's one hell of a mileage. It was enough miles spread over a 10 days when I went with motorrad tours ten years ago
Yes it was quite a trip!!
Just picked up a rocket storm gt..can't wait to get over to Europe..was looking at getting some rukka jacket and trousers..are these completely waterproof and do have the top of the range..any good??..worth the price tag..?..
Should include the GSA 1250. Full panniers too. Interesting to hear the views.
Wow. A proper beer for the englishmen. The genuine taste. 😜👍
Been on an XR for 2 years now, done 3 biggish tours and it's a brilliant bike. Last 2 trips I started having a few electrical problems, after stopping for fuel or at a peage the screen goes blank and the engine cuts out. It's happened about 8 times in the last 18 months or so, bike starts again and after a few seconds dies again. Sometimes it takes over an hour to sort itself out, BMW have had it in twice and found nothing on diagnostics, so nothing can be done! Can't live with that so I have part exed for a 2024 GSA Rallye, have had GSes in the past and really enjoyed them. So I have a brand new GSA in the garage with 60 miles on the clock and realised I have made a fuckin huge mistake, after 2 years on an XR this thing feels horrible. The industrial tractor feeling engine, the nasty quickshifter, XR quicksifter is sublime. The wallowy handling is a bit disconcerting, the dull dull engine, pulls ok low down but meeeh! Thought his would all suit me now i'm getting on, it really fuckin does'nt though, I want that mad in line four back again. Spoken to the misses and i'm off to BMW in the morning to see if a deal can be made on a new XR, think I might be getting bent over and punished financially but you only live once
Did you try the new R1300? Much less tractor but it's no XR... Hope you get what you want 👍
Literally my XR is suffering the same thing and BMW are collecting it for a second time. It seems to happen everytime it rains.
@@paddyobrien8950 Sorry to hear that Paddy, have read of others with this problem in the rain, mostly mine happened on a dry sunny day. Hope they find something, if it was a mechanical problem i'd still have the bike cos that can be sorted but not knowing or being able to find a problem I just can't live with, was passing through Rouen a few weeks ago and sat in 5 lanes of busy traffic and all that's going through my mind is Shit!! if it happens now i'm screwed
@@LambChopRides Had an hour on the 1300 a few months ago, as you say it's still no XR
@@firebladedan1 yeah I was like that at traffic lights on the way home trying to Rev it a little so it couldn’t splutter out.
I spoke to BMW and they think they have found the problem. The wire loom has been catching on the frame affecting affect five control units.
They’re replacing under warranty and can’t fault the service one bit from them but at least I’ll have my bike back next week and hopefully sorted.
loved it chopsy
Reckon there’s away to have y’all ConnectedRide making hotel finding a breeze 😂
Just ridden back from Germany Luxembourg France etc on my 1250rt great bike, great roads, came back here (uk) and was immediately reminded of how the roads here are AWFUL! I was out the seat on the rt a few times from lumps bumps and potholes .. Just tested the gs13 .. deposit paid .. lighter and more compliment and gives nothing away with regards to weather protection from the wind compared to the rt . It's lighter easier to live with more power and yeah just bloody awesome. Xr I'd say is too much for the UK roads, torque is where it's at, plus as I get older I want less drama. Be keen to see what you think
Yeah makes you realise just how bad the roads are Geoff! 100% with you 👍
@LambChopRides cheers chopsy, see you about mate I'm local and see you a few times at meets. The gs has brought the gap closer between outright touring and sports.. I never thought I'd say that but the gs really is so bloody good now... and I have ordered the forged wheels, mmmmmmmmm 👀 now get back to the football ⚽️ 😃
Had both GS 1250 and s1000xr.... GS is capable but a bit boring.... xr a scalpel in comparison and have done 300+ miles a day on it ... XR for me all day and my mrs loves it too.... winner winner
Wish they made an off-road capable s1000xr. Love the sportbike road performance.
You mean a GS version? Never heard of a GS going off road.
They should remove that extra filler pipe from the tank at BMW. Then refueling will also be a bit faster
Hi John for what it's worth well done on this, You seem to have upped your game on this video , It shows, atb Wayne....👍
Thanks Wayne 👍
Had a S1000XR for two weeks. Worst wind blast I have ever experienced. It was so bad it tore the wires out of my cardo mount.
LCR, Got a question. I just rode a R1250GSA for 4 days, over 700miles with a passenger. I did it because I'm interested in buying one. However, after riding it, I realized I can't buy it. The buzzy feeling from the bike above 4500rpm was terrible. Even my wife said the passenger seat and grabrails buzzed so much that it made her numb. My hands and arms were going numb on the interstate. The quick shifter is very harsh and clunky unless its 4th going to 5th and 6th. Lower than 4th it was terrible. The front wheel followed any grove in the road and wondered around. I realized that the 1250 is not for me. How is the 1300 compared to the 1250 in those areas I mentioned?
I lovebig Beemers, unfortunately I only have an MOD pension so can't afford one, but a wealty friend of mine has an HP4 and a gorgeous HP2.👍👍👍👍👍
Great video!!!! When is the next one coming?
The second video is allmost edited so not long, couple of days 👍
@@LambChopRides great!! Can’t wait
I’m sure the GS is nice and all but won’t ride one until I’m dangerously close to retirement, which gives me another 30 yrs (un)fortunately lol
With fuel prices these days and average speed checks everywhere it’s probably one of the 310’s lol.
You missed out my bike, the R1200RS, boo! lol...... 🙂
If you have an ass like the hobs of hell from riding sports bikes your list maybe a consideration. The reality is gt1600, RT or 1250 gs/gsa. The new GSA may be a future consideration if it comes with a throw over
Is the M-XR the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S of the bike world?
It's an intriguing machine and I'm a naked bike guy.
The RS!
I've ridden the 1000XR but not ridden the 1300GS yet.
And where o' where is the RS, my personal pick 😊
GS is a sport bike compre to GSA
I've had my Kriega drypack on the back of my S1000RR up to 266kph on the Autobahn! 😅
I’ve had the BMW 22L tail pack at 180mph on my S1000RR 😂 serious fear of losing my clothes but it made it!
What about the RT and the K models ?
How the right cuff on your Rukka? I have the exact same and the Velcro on the front of the jacket is scuffing the 💩 out of it. Presume it’s reaching into inner pocket/ sitting with jacket undone etc. Really disappointing for the money!
No issues so far.. was superb on the trip if a bit hot when in 25 plus temperatures .. I will check for the scuffing issue 👍
What is the vibration like on the XR please.
It's the reason I sold my second generation
It's fine really didn't bother me at all... I know it does some though
RT the RS and then R .... the others are just for sad possers, who think they are going to ride around the world. But most like to ride to macdonlds lol
2017 GSA😉
I’ve just purchased a M1000XR and desperate to know what soft luggage was fitted to the M1000XR in this video ??
It's the optional BMW luggage 👍
@@LambChopRides I can’t find these anywhere online ? Any chance you have a link ?
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The r1250RS
K1600 Grand America
I would have gone with the RS or the RT1250. Much more suitable for road use. But you being a speed demon wants power.
The RS is a great bike for sure! Your right would have been nice to include one 👍
Chopsy the best BMW tourer is my R1200RS 😂
Chopsy paying £1500+ for a rukka set only to wear it for 1 mini tour 😂.
What about the R1250RS. Much better tourer than a GS
The best BMW Touring bike is a R1250r cause I have one 😅
Yes two great bikes… no RT or RS Mr . Chops?
Nope unfortunately not, BMW choice of machines to take
@@LambChopRidesAnswered my question, ta Mr L.Chops!
Or GSA, of course 😂
Beer & a Schnitty
Sausage fest to Germany - how apt 😅
F800GT with 213kg wet weight , should be new version with +-130-140hp and 210kg wet weight and belt. 1250RS is too heavy, s1000xr don't have bottom.
Can't beat the super duke GT sorry chops
France you can filter, but only down the outside lane. Avoid Paris, they have some weird rules.
I'll take the GS, I've recently tried the 2024 XR and the seat is a bit better than the old model (2022) but it's still uncomfortable after an hour, come on BMW, this is a great bike, but the seat still sucks 👎
The whole premise of the video is flawed without considering the RT in the mix which is arguably the #1 sports tourer in the world.
Tough Gig 😂
the RT is the comfortable one, the GS the travel-bike, the XR sportstouring - so what???
K1600gt
Stupid boy Pike = The most comfortable BMW to go touring on is none of these on offer here, its obviously a RT or K16.
But of course it’s a different answer if you choose for fun rather than comfort!
Diets going well then?😂
Wundeshun
Xr is the dogs bollocks . If you want to tour or be a nowt .
Where‘s yer gloves, Chopsie? Ain‘t yer never ‚eard of ATGATT?
Yes absolutely, bit naughty of me there.. was only between gates on the euro tunnel but yes ATGATT 👍
@@LambChopRides I was probably a bit too quick to post because I noticed afterwards that you were wearing gloves later on. Still, in the interest of all the 8 to 10 year old bikers watching this channel, it‘s good to reinforce the point. Kids, don‘t do this at home. 😜
Quero a tua vida. 😓
Best touring BMW? That'll be the RT Chopsy and you should have included it to avoid the accusation of bias!
My 1200RT is super comfortable, has an electric windscreen, loads of luggage space and returns 60 mpg plus has a useful 25 litre tank - none of your 19 litre examples...
Keep fighting the anorexia, lol.
Hehe😅
Baden Baden is pronounced Bar-den Bar-den not Bad-en Bad-en. 🫡
Yes good point sir 👍