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Makita 40v Sanders, Lasers and More NEW Batteries are here! Are Makita Pouch Cells a Thing Now?
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- Plenty of new Makita 40v tools are on the way. Sanders, Nailers, Impact Wrenches, Batteries and more!
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I don't think there are particularly "18v fans" we just can't afford switching a platform
I think you are right, this new tools cost lot of money and if you want new drill, grinder, rotary hammer and some betteries you will go away with empty pockets
@@aliancemd cxt is even lighter
@@aliancemd nah man, you do you, but even though Bosch is a solid brand, ill stick to what I like
Excellent news! Theory about the sanders: they’ll have a clip-on battery holder that attaches to their dust extractors. That way you can snake the cord from the battery along the dust extractor hose.
It will probably go with a 80v vacuum and it will power the sander aswell as the sander I bet u and it will turn them on and off when u turn the sander on just like festool
Incorrect I'm afraid.
On the subject of patents. The Festool Domino patent runs out in two years. I can imagine the other tool manufacturers are already working on their version of the Domino. Looking forward to see what comes out.
Already cant wait for the Milwaukee boii choir screaming insecurely at the top of their lungs how the $200 cheaper Milwaukee copy is the best tool ever invented (aka copied) 🥱
@@remcovanderheide9318 Yes, Milwaukee is owned by the Chinese so copying and claiming genius seems to be the norm.
I will see what Makita come up with.
The Tloc systainer will be out of patent in four years so I can see Makita doing a version of that too.
Festool owned by Devon's mother company. All i can tell u they are not making good product, battery life is short with heavy useage. Tools are not well made
@@harveysmith100 doesn't makita have a domino-like tool? PJ7000, actually I don't think I see it mentioned on CZcams at all
@@hoobsug The PJ7000 is a biscuit joiner. It can do some of what a Domino does but not all.
Think of the Domino as a mobile mortising machine with floating tenons.
Great video and very exciting news, I am ready for those sanders, can't wait 😁 great idea with the cord, so you still have a great balance and ergonomics.
Hopefully they do some pouch cell 18v been waiting for years for some new batteries
Given up hope of new 18v batteries. They haven't done anything in years
There will be 6 new drills, 5 circular saws and 2 microwaves before Makita thinks about touching a LXT battery. 😂 Think new batteries just became a meme on the development department.
@@saiiiiiii1and 37 angle grinders.
I reckon the first nailer photo thing we saw is Makita's version of a fencing stapler, like Milwaukee's
When I started as a carpenter I had a ryobi drill with a level on the back and it was really cool. I would totally switch a back plate for one with a level, if only for the new guy to use.
Good observation regarding the battery... Baltic (LT, LV, EE) Makita webite also has "part drawings" for the 4025F (dated February 16th, - they've been there for more than a month now..), and there the BW picture is identical to the photo - slightly different underneath the indicator, but size wise seems to be the same as 4025.
Not sure if Makita will really read comments here but have something to say.
Started investing into Makita tools since 2008 and wanted to upgrade to the XGT platform after reviews and this is when my enthusiasm started to fade. Wasn't really that impressive in terms of power considering the 40V max branding (Not comparing to LXT!) and the lack of generation changes like the new TD173D is only available in Japan (I know it's an 18v and you can import it but will cost even more). My friend just switched to the yellow side from Makita after 15 years and I too leaning more towards the red side. You get new gen/upgraded tools more often, multi choice of batteries that work with every tool, new innovative battery technology and I could go on. Makita takes so long to upgrade their tools and the 40v only have so many. The multi tool only just getting talked about after 3 years and will take an other year to be available world wide just as an example! The 001 impact driver is just a 40v version of the LXT brother with very little performance upgrade and no newer gen since then (002 is more focused on introducing new tech instead of power upgrade). I know reliability, ergonomics and words like "lasts longer" will always be on their side but other brands not far behind. Also, the edge of large selection of tools on the LXT is getting caught up too. As much as I love Makita think its time to move on...
Feel you here. I switched from a few DeWalt to Makita XGT when I started to seriously building up my tool collection. Mainly the 305mm mitre saw sold me as I was working with limited corded power supply. I have two circ saws, track saw and the mitre saw in 40v, then for framing nailer, drills, drivers, sanders, multi tool, 90 degree drill etc went with Milwaukee. Milwaukee have way more tools available for a more affordable price, and this is in the UK. In retrospect I could've got Milwaukee everything but having two different platforms has it's benefits. The 40v saws are great pieces of equipment but I couldn't justify the price tags of the drills/ drivers/ sanders etc which don't benefit that much from the 40v.
That sweeper looks great, after using other sweepers that are fairly useless, only sweeping up dust and anything larger they just push forward or get thrown out the side.
I have a theory about the CG suffix.
ConnectX utilizes an attachment to an adapter, and is 40v Max, 36 nominal, like the XGT and LXTx2 tools.
Makitas blind end plug ConnectX specific tools in the US have a C prefix instead of X(36v) or G(40v).
My theory is an XGT belt adapter that has a corresponding blind end to it will be in the works, so you could use an LXT x 2 adapter with XGT batteries, or throw an 8ah on your hip and use it in an impact with the line coming off of it to your belt.
Additionally, the blind end tool plugs could also be used for a potential inverter adapter system that can enable mains power. 40v is alot easier to step down to than 18v, and an adapter box with multiple plugs could very well be suitable for bench top work.
For sanders it makes sense to go half cordless (I say half cordless because it goes only to your hip) as many times they are attached to external vacuums, so a cord isn't as cumbersome as say a drill or impact where vacuuming isn't needed.
Also, belt packs could take the weight off of the large concrete saw, SDS Max, and other large tools.
Sweeper will be awesome in medium too big sized workshops! makes afternoon cleanup a breeze
12:50 the LM001C is the lawnmower that runs off the PDC1200. Imagine how many weeks you could sand for with the PDC1200 😂. I think you're right about CG = corded xgt.
Hi i repair Batteries for a living in the Uk.
Love your channel and what you do.
But i really wish that for the sake of 4 x T10 screws that you would at least take the lid off these batteries and show the world.
Keep up the good work, i am a big Makita fan.
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Are you for real? He's done a lot more than take the screws out. So far he has the only public images of these new cells.
Great video! Thank you for information about new products
Really hope it’s like the Festool battery/ corded
Well, Makita finally wore me down. I’ve been waiting patiently for the chance to replace my Makita pneumatic framing nailer with a battery model. I just couldn’t wait longer - yesterday I broke down and got a Milwaukee framer.
Nooooo, buy Hikoki
Need an impact driver attachment with a mini microwave. That'll really trigger the haters.
I would buy that so fast!
Fan forced oven and the fan is your impact fan
They’ll meet you half way and make a an impact driver covered in microwave buttons.
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really hope they hurry up and release a 40v orbital sander i need one noww
Lets hope, Makita can nail the Nailer.
I gave up waiting and got the Metabo. They make their batteries affordable enough that it's not even annoying to be adding a battery platform to my life.
I hope the batteries are smaller! That would be so nice and great especially for tools like there jig saws, multi tool etc.
That is the one thing that feels like they are lacking vs there competition.
Very excited about the new XGT tools coming out. Great video as always. Cheers from the USA
Can you do a review on the new Hikoki multi tool please?
I would like to see that sweeper in action. We use them at work but they only last about a year before they break. Maybe Makita can beat that.
I’vebnever really understood cordless sanders. Basically every modern sander is designed to be used with an external vacuum since removing all the dust allows faster sanding and finer finish. And if you’ve already got a vacuum hose coming off the back of your tool it’s not much more annoying to also have a power cord; plus that can be used to control the vacuum automatically without having to deal with bluetooth.
I have a cordless festool and not having to deal with a cord is a bonus even when the extractor is on. However when I am sanding trim joints around a house it is way better to grab just the sander and not have to run a super long cord
We have a sailboat that is stored at a boatyard in the off season. Cordless sanders make annual maintenance so much easier!
I have a bit of a theory with the corded sanders. Back when Mirka first released the CEROS sander, it had a dirty great big power pack that changed AC wallgas into whatever DC the sander used. I suspect Makita might be doing something similar here, but give you the option of using a battery or a 240v power source. The other thing I wanted to bring up is if I wanted long run time, I'd be wheeling out the extension lead and the trusty Festool ES150. Battery sanders have their place to dress up a handful of mitres, or to quickly prep a single car panel for paint, but its hopeless for doing full house lots or full car rub downs.
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If Makita updates the CXT line I would upgrade to XGT and put my LXT stuff in my garage for home use and weekend projects. I use CXT primarily installing industrial HVAC equipment. CXT doesn’t have the broadest collection of tools in my opinion after extensive use of their products.
If makita are going to release those clip on things for impact drivers. I hope they make one which is just a block of rubber. I am sure we are all guilty of using the back of our drills and impacts as a mallet
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I needed a concrete nailer yesterday... I've waited so long, I'll wait a little longer)
If the BL4025F is 30% more powerful, 60-70g lighter, shorter AND RELEASE IT AT A REASONABLE TIME (cough cough BL4040F to USA, its been 10 months and we still dont have it) it will be badass!
I want a hammer attachement on the back of my impact driver
Running my 3/4 XGT impact with the 5ah battery. Suits the size of the tool but its still pretty damn big. Would love to get my hands on a BL4040F battery. Just need more money.
FYI, torque test channel recommends using the 2.5ah for the xgt impacts, for some reason they get better results on the dyno
@@Aspire198 average area under the curve was exactly the same, peak number is like 1% off which is in measurement error range. You can use whatever, it really doesn't matter.
@@Aspire198 yeah seen that, I don't understand why either.
TTC hasn't tested a BL4040F yet.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL or the 5Ah and 8Ah
That's a joist hanger nailer, not concrete
Curious on the laser you showed, saying it was goig to be XGT. If you're going on the assumption that a "G" in the model indicates it's an XGT tool, keep in mind that the G also refers to a green beam laser as opposed to a red beam. You likely have more inside information than just making a guess based on model #, though
it was in the XGT catalogue.
@@riba2233 In which country was the laser in the catalogue?
@@alexandergoral7627 Brasil or latvia
Looks like a positive placement nailer
I'd love a more powerful 18V battery, actually. Challenge for Makita would be to design the battery contacts to make it work because they'll put out twice the amount of current to get the same amount of power.
I think cylindrical cells will stand up to a lot more physical abuse than pouches will so I could understand Makita being hesitant about building such a thing.
We just need the sanders to plug into a battery powered vacuum to be powered.
As you are "The MAN" with Makita tools can you tell me if the keyless chuck on the DA3011 angle driver will fit on the DA3010 angle driver?
Romex cap stapler🤔? I do like your “convertible mag” thought👍
I love the Makita 40v stuff but they are just so slow with releasing stuff like I want a multi tool framing nailer sander would be nice aswell and automatic screw machine like for drywall screws I have everything on 40v but now I bought some 18 volt aswell because they are just to slow and I need the tools for my job
It would be amazing a slim/single layer 40v battery and 18v battery with new cells.
Metabo have a slim/single layer 5ah battery, it's great!. Also a 10ah battery with same size as a 4ah.
The new 40v 2.5 F battery seems nice and that talk about 18v with new cells and all the possibilities gonna get me up all night 😂
Biggest issue in NA, and Canada even more so, just seeing the new tools in a store, or even for order online.
Quite intrigued by the sanders!
Totally agree with the problematic ergonomics of the cordless sanders.. terrible design.. I’m a Makita fanboy BUT I gave my Makita sander away after two weeks of struggle and went back to Festool for a finishing sander…
Festool cordless sanders are more bulkier. Try the bosch blue one instead
Bosch dont do the distance... the Festool ETSC 125 is not bulky... its ergonomic perfection.. ...
Is anyone making tabless 18650 cells? I wasn’t aware of anyone making them yet.
I also thought tabless was more of an advantage the larger the cell diameter because the coils are that much longer and have more resistance, so less of a benefit on smaller 18650s.
wait for Makita realease or somethings leak about their new cordless piston grip hammer drill like DHR182 , maybe new model can be run by XGT batteries ??
It would be great if Makita had a look at Ryobi’s offering for home owners.
If tables theoretically could get theses battery’s in the 5ah and 8ah xgt s and of course it would be great if they made a lxt tables battery
BL4040F still is not available here in America 😐😒
The "C" could be compact? Tool is compact because the battery is clipped to your belt
whooo a New Plymouth intro again.
some tools are fine as 18v or even less. as a heavy mechanic i am so disappointed they refuse to make more electric ratchets with different head types. it seems like a low investment cost for a good return on their investment. every other brand is running off to the horizon in respect to mechanic tools...
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at 0:47s you say "this is all 40V stuff I'm talking about", does that go for all the patents you discuss in this video?
Because around 3m:35s/3m:45s you're talking about the add-ons for the impact driver and that seems to be one with the control buttons on the back and centered handle (like the TD173).
Hoping Makita finally pushes through those improvements of the TD173 onto the 40V XGT platform and come with a similar impact driver.
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They can’t pump more power output in the 18v range because the fuse in alot of the tools will blow before you reach maximum power.
I've used HO Milwaukee batteries on many makita tools without a problem. And the only tools I've seen with fuses in them are impacts.
There could be some truth to that idea, but on the battery end. They've got 3x fuses, 1-2x mosfets and 2x shunt resistors in the batteries. Putting in more powerful cells would need 4-5x fuses, 3-4x shunts, and maybe another mosfet.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIALplease do a video on alternative LXT battery options, this would be great. I’ve been tempted to get some Milwaulkee or DeWalt higher Ah batteries with an adaptor to get decent runtime. Mainly on the garden tools tbh, mower, strimmer & chainsaw but any would be interesting.
Makita needs to get a 18v 8ah battery. Dewalt has managed to do this, without either 18/54v outcompeting the other.
There batteries are unreliable.
Unlike makita battery technology
Size restraints on any tool that is 36v or has the battery enclosed in a housing or lid. The only way they could do it is with tabless or pouch cells, but 8ah would be stretching it.
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Site carpenters need a m class extractor that is based on a mac pac box for ease of carrying around sites over muddy ground
About time they made a macpac radio which would compete with dewalt and milwaukees one with the subwoofers. I use makota but they are behind other brands for range of tools
Will Makita release jigsaw with AWS?
Does anyone use the jigsaw with a vacuum?
@@riba2233there are attachments nozzles for the jigsaw so what do you think?
@@patbird9694 I know they exist lol, I have one, but I am talking about real life...
Might as well use a corded jigsaw if theres going to be a vacuum tube connected to it.Thats why i have corded/ cordless version of my power tools.
@@riba2233If you work indoors/confined spaces you want dust control on everything you can get.
The issue is that most historical jigsaw dust collections have been poorly implemented, leading people to not even bother.
The smaller the orifice for a vacuum connection, the more care needs to be taken in the design. It's not just about clogging from debris or starving the vacuum itself, but also about the inertial mass of air being moved towards the intake. A high pressure/low flow port will induce less sympathetic airflow that aids debris collection. The more air you have flowing towards the intake port, the harder it is for particles to escape from the collection zone.
The answer is to increase the cross sectional area of the dust porting as much as possible, and use blowers/air curtains to corral debris into intakes.
The less-cord cord-less sander? I'd buy that for a dollar!
I just want a 40v 18 gauge brad nailer 😂 😅
They've had one for 2 years or more.
Makita need to make pouch cell 18v.
Great video. I'm a bit frustrated with XGT batteries in the UK. I have a standard 2.5Ah and 4.0Ah batteries and want to add to them, but I can't justify spending £140 on the standard 4.0Ah, so I was going to get another 2.5Ah until the BL4040F arrives over here, but now I'm stumped.
Would you recommend the BL4050F to use on the GA038G 9" grinder? I currently use the 4.0Ah and the weight balance is nice. I'm worried the 5.0Ah will unbalance it
*Edit: got some numbers the wrong way around
4050F is a much better choice for that grinder,power and balance wise.
@@riba2233oh really? I nearly bought one a while ago but I think I read something which claimed the 4050F doesn't push as much power out as the new 4040F.
@@leomcloughlin9788 they are pretty similar in power, you can get either, depends if you want more capacity or a lighter pack :)
@@riba2233I mainly need another battery, but not if an updated model is coming along. It seems the 4050F is the best choice all things considered. Thanks for your help
@@leomcloughlin9788 np, enjoy!
that impact driver thingy btw, not sure if its linked to euro market, but the plans you showed in the vid is for the 173d (japanese TD) which you can import to the EU. Which is a way superior device imo btw, if not only caus it has that 360degree lighting in the front around the chuck... But bit attachment wise.. nah using Stickbit instead, off to the side, strong magnet, not swapping that out any time soon. The 173d design they should however implement that over the 171 asap imo, whats the point in those 2 light: still always gonna have shadows
7:07 fake! There's no litter in Japan
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For the old BL 4025, 23A x 40V= 920W or 23 x 36 = 828 W.
With SHD 30A x 40 = 1200W or 30 x 36 = 1080W
With UHD 35 x 40 = 1400W or 35 x 36 = 1260W.
The old non F BL 4040 I heard is even weaker then the old BL4025 so that 1500W rating looks wrong.
You got all the numbers wrong. Continuous discharge ratings are:
4025, vtc5a cells - 25A
4040, vtc6a cells - 30A
4040F, vx40 cells - 50A
18v 1850, vtc5 or 25R cells - 20A
Peak numbers are a bit higher, and Makita is quoting them. 4ah is not weaker then 2.5ah, in that case the 8ah would be weaker then 5ah which is not the case
What is SHD and UHD? The rating is kinda arbitrary, unless Makita tells us what time scale they're using. Continuous discharge to empty is only around 25A, but will be lower when packaged in a battery. Instantaneous can do 70A without hitting voltage limits, but will overheat or trip low voltage in under 1min. I'm guessing Makita's watt rating is based on ~5-10min of use
I too was wondering what SHD and UHD stands for?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I bet it was regular 4040 vs 4040F lol
@@riba2233
BL1850 can sustain up to 46A or 23A for the cells. In puls and with voltage drop can go to 25-30A or more but damaging the cells. 20A rating have the cells in BL1860 that is weaker.
I've seen that some Makita tools are weaker - less powerful @ BL 4040 non F vs BL 4025, so something is weird about them.
By SHD and UHD I was refering to sustained super high drain ( 30A for 18650) and sustained ultra high drain for 18650 again, sustained as without much voltage drop and without damaging the cells.
It’s definitely a concrete nailer,
Yeah, the prong at the bottom of the magazine looks like the bipod part on the Hilti nailers
I watched a video last year about this time from Bosch. Bosch was the first for the "tabless" design. They call their batteries Bosch Core 18v+! Seems like a legit design! Thanks for the video
Bosch may have announced it first, but how long will it take them to get it to market? Bosch are notoriously slow at releasing products after announcing them. Makita had the BL4040F available here before any of the info I can find from Bosch. And Milwaukee will have them in the new MX Fuel batteries and the soon to be released higher Ah M18 forge batteries. They likely all use the same Murata cells as I don't know of anyone else making them yet.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIALthis is interesting! They claimed they "didn't know of anyone else with this design" so I assumed they may be the first. You clearly know more than I. Thanks for the info.
Didnt bosch only mention it november 2023? Im on bosch and matika and slowlu waiting/hoping for bosch to bring more tools to my part of the world
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL some reviewers have already gotten those new mx fuel packs for testing :)
EVE also make 4ah tabless cells, I have seen them tested, they will probably be in the announced Ryobi 4ah tabless packs if I had to guess.
pouch cells would be way hotter
Why do you think so?
@@riba2233 because there is some space between round cells, which make them a bit cooler, than uberpacked pouch cells
@@dimkinlv sure but lipo cells have lower IR so they heat up less in the first place. You can also add some heatsinks to move the heat away
@@riba2233it'll be interesting when we get to see equivalent pouch vs tabless. If BL4025 can do 89% of the power of the Dewalt 5Ah powerstack, then tabless is as good as pouch. Powerstack is 740g, BL4025F is 660g, 660/740 = 0.89.
@@riba2233 comparing to RCs, drones and so on - there are too much dust, water and debree around powertools. adding heatsink will remove saved space., so, no point in that IMHO
I am getting tired of makita not releasing new battery tech for 18V or essential tools for 40v like the framing nailer. I dont even use 18v but they are losing market share EVERY DAY because they backed themselves into a corner with the 18x2 technology. They should still develop an 8ah LXT battery that is not compatible with the 18x2 tools for stuff like the drills, impact wrenches, single battery saws, etc. but they wanted to sell you 2 batteries instead of one big one.
Inventing corded sanders but with a few hundred dollar battery in between 🤣
love Makita, but I feel like Milwaukee is ahead of them on the innovation side now.
how so?
How can Milwaukee be ahead on innovation if they don't even have a microwave yet??
Thry definitely have more tools for plumbing and electrical then makita.
Some tools are a better design then makita but not all mostly makita makes better saws in my opinion
You can just go ahead and copy and paste what I said about the US getting this in the year 3030.
There won't be a planet in 3030, not one with humans on it anyway.
Even 2030 is looking iffy some days@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
Its a disappointment that Makita has fallen so far behind the competition
How so? Please explain
@riba2233 they lost the most money in the u.s. which makes up 50% of all tool sales in the world so that how 2023 and take too long to come out with new tools
@@theone-ou3gd wrong, US is less than 10% of their market, they are doing very well don't worry
@@riba2233 yea but not in u.s. which is where there gonna be gone eventually which isn't good when your talking biggest tool market in world
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Corded brushless tools are pretty awesome too, like DeWalt's corded brushless angle grinder.
They need a DA Nailer
If they also raise the price another 30-50% for pouch cells to already very high priced round cell, I for one will not be buying them.
Tight arse