The WORST Graffiti Advice Ever! (You Wont Expect It)
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2022
- Today i wanted to talk about the worst graffiti advice anyone can give. keep in mind this whole video is about giving advice to a NEW graffiti artist (mostly young), not experienced dedicated writers. those guys already made their choice so this is 100% about the guys who can save themself the trouble.
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I've never understood the whole doing it for respect thing and I'd never really seen the point in glamorizing crime or anything that will end with hand cuffs.. all I can say about the situation is when I see Graff on the streets It makes me smile that folks are out there doing there thing.. anytime I may have done my thing it's always come from a place I don't understand kinda like the feeling you get to pick up an instrument ect... and I 100%agree if your someone who doesn't have the common sense... experience... and most importantly that second sense that allows you to know if something is or isn't a good idea... if your shaking with a can in your hand wondering if what ur about to do is a good idea just know it's not bahahahaha... no one has ever gone out and smoked a town making themselves red hot and thought it was something that at the very least has a possibility of having a bad outcome... and to anyone whose super cocky and thinks they got it your a fool to not realize that by nature Graff always has a large percentage of the outcome that you simply cannot control... and the last thing is if or when your caught it's deff not a crime anyone will think ur cool for doing lol most will think ur an idiot.. the court is gonna throw the book at you possibly attempting to blame you for everything ever written on anywall ever.. and no one person in county isn't gonna just laugh at you becuz your in jail for something associated with preteen kids trying to be bad... plus even if you get really good at Graff it's something that if you don't wanna end up in jail no one should know about which means you're gonna assume all that risk and if done properly you'll never for one sec be recognized for what you've done... there's a reason those who have done a lot of stuff or are active don't ever show there face lol you'll prolly get the same kinda advice asking someone how to rob a bank lmao I can't believe people actually do that... especially now a days with digital media being the way it is if your really into art and want to put it out there and be known for how slick your work is you have to be doing it thru online type of means.. and most who post spray art online are showing picture of walls that are hidden and not out In public spots...
First let me say, thankyou for writing such a thoughtful comment, you knocked this out of the park. You summed this up in such a direct, experienced and honest way to where you left no holes in the points made. I honestly don't think anyone can debate this while also proving they're mature and experienced themselves. Legit have to pin this, I think as many people should read this as possible
You make alot of valid points, I get alot of dms asking just what grim said. And I agree with 100% either your built for it or your not. And as the old saying goes real recognizes real. So im abit hesitant on what I tell people. Some of these kids don't realize it's just a phase in their lives. But one never knows until they put some time in. But I will give basic advice, outside of that. I usually tell them to stay safe.
Bro Wrote a whole Essay
@@aron7138 he wrote something relevant to the topic. , read it, you might learn something.
Tumbs up for those who actually had a patience to even pay attention to this haha
Graffiti is like a drug for me, I’ve been doing it since I was 12 and It has grown to be one of my only hobbies and the other hobbies I do have tie into graffiti.
I can quit but I don’t know what I would do afterwards, when I get a pay check I think about how much I’m gonna put into my paint, I think about how much I can put into a trip to another city to get up, I think about graffiti with every aspect of my life it’s quite embarrassing from an outside perspective that I have dedicated a large portion of my life into painting on walls and trains with almost no returning benefit.
hobbies are hobbies dud, keep it up!!
I’m the same way and there’s lots more dudes like us. Travelling around doing your art is a good life, don’t let homie get you down! I write everyday and don’t have a shitty upbringing or anything really wrong with my life that I know of. I may be a tad stupid and immature but I really just love graffiti culture. Hip-hop, graffiti, turn tables and b-boying. Also skateboarding
OHMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on me
I started when I was 13 and stopped doing illegal work around 19. It’s not worth it, especially when I had children.
I agree. I've met grown adults that just barely got into graffiti & I've explained to them that you can still get in trouble such as catch felonies, fines, prison time, gang charges (if in a crew), etc. Most tend to have this attitude of "graffiti is harmless, what's the worst that can happen?" & they're in for a rude awakening if that's what they think.
I don’t even look like a writer or gang member I look like a rocker and I have had guns pulled on me by gangs multiple times for a writing my name
@@luisrivas9661Graffiti can be dangerous & you're still playing by the rules of the street.
I disagree only slightly with what u said and it's the one part about just being older and getting into it... As a person who started in twenties I had an interest but no way to start at a young age and was incRcedated as a 16 year old until I was 21... After getting through that legal shit (parole, more jail time) I started cuz I was a semi independent person now but I had already fucked up bad enough and had felonies that wouldn't disappear so I'm not worried of getting in trouble again as I've already semi ruined my life already. What I do think is if uve never been in trouble before and ur just a twenty sumn year old mf who just started cuz u were 'bored during pandemic...' kindly put down the can and try and gain a better life
@@kdub9787 It was more directed at square adults who don't know what they're getting themselves into. Ones that think graff is sweet until it gets hot & then they turn soft like Now 'n' Laters.
If i was in America or somewhere where they have strict law against graffiti I won’t do it, but here graffiti is unknown that its like almost legal.
i definitely fall into the immature and stupid category with a splash of its the better option where i grew up lol. but i do agree with you there... i mentored quite a few people and i always feel kinda responsible when they get caught eventually(because, yes, it will happen you guysXD) especially with the younger writers
but i do feel i have to add, i dont get up as much anymore, do frequent routes still, but it kinda went the right way for me incidentally as i was asked to do a piece at a special ed school and ended up getting hired as a special ed teacher covring the art side of it. come to think of it, that may actually have been the point where i slowed down illegally... either way, im still immature, im not denying thatXD
we dont do it for respect. we do it for us. for the moment. for the feeling. being truly alive and awake. lames wont understand
I address that line of thinking in the video. as someone who would have agreed with you 15 years ago, that's something young and or immature-minded people say. Once again, i used to agree with that, i know the appeal, i know the rush you get but i can also say there are better ways to feel alive and if graffiti is your only way to get that then something isn't right in your life, and your priorities are mixed.
Its definitely fun but not worth the risk.
Your last sentence kinda contradicts what you said before.. no need to compare if you truly do it for yourself
@@Theartistblock It can be an addiction for sure and we addictive personalities are pros in justifying our addictions. ;)
@@WiesoNurMistnamen Junkie brain 😆
Iz the wiz! Rest in piece. on another note, i still think its alright advice, having toys do illegal graffiti teaches them how "real" graffiti works. By having people learning the ropes on legal walls they will never be able to understand "real" graffiti. But yes people who want to paint illegally will do it anyway.
for reals, first time I went to jail was because of graffiti lol
"Being a responsible human being"
Yea that is to hard for me
Got caught for a drunk stupid tag. Graff is fun untill you pay for it lol
Hey dudes, just wanted to be clear, this video isn't about experienced writers or people who've been in the game for years. We're specifically talking about giving NEW graffiti artists advice. I know i say it in the video but i don't think i made this point clear so i wanted to take a second to clear it up.
I cringed at first but then I yepped. It's definitely not for most civillians. Graff gets romanticized and lots of people want to do it but most of them shouldn't. It takes passion and drive and a certain amount of not gaf. Good video bro
I lived in a small town for 22 years and it was really fun doing illegal graffiti when I was a kid. In the beginning it was hard for the cops to catch us cause we were just a few close friends doing it, but over the years more writers appeared and the cops just got crazy and out of control. A lot of patrols, harassing kids on the streets to find paint on them, or to get them to snitch.
When things got heated I kinda got out of it and started pursuing other hobbies. Now I work in a big city and would have money to pay fines if that is the case, but I almost never have time or energy to do this anymore. Despite this, I still never got out of it completely. I still purchase like a bag of cans every 6 to 12 months and just keep it in my car, and once I feel the time is right I go out and do a big piece in like a chill place. I still enjoy doing this as it was a big part of my childhood and the adrenaline rush of running away if somebody comes near is just a good way to get out of the monotony of adulthood and working a 9 to 5 job, but I would not do this everyday like I used to. It is definitely not worth the risk and I'm glad that I have other hobbies that I can do daily and just keep graffiti only for very special occasions
I think illegal graffiti in the US is much more risky. US is pretty much a police state. where I live people have a lot more freedom to express themselves
where do u live?
People who just do for respect from others will most likely regret it at some point. And people who ask if they should do illegal graff should ask the cops ^^
Thank you for teaching us graffiti history and tips for are work.
I simply get confused on the terminology these days, I remember my start in 89 with well versed writers who simply called it painting, even when it was illegal, and even into the 90's as our country started to get the magazines, movies and the whole hip hop influence encroached "GRAFFITI" was a term used strictly for illegal works.
Anyone painting legally was just that, Painting, doing a mural or sometimes called aerosol art/ists.
The whole idea has stuck with me to this day, as far as i am concerned if it is not illegal, you're not doing graffiti.
Naturally you can imagine how confusing i find this channel among others.
I recently had my little brothers friend say he saw my 'graffiti piece', i asked which one ? when he told me i said that's not graffiti, i just wrote my own name with spray paint on my own shipping container on my own land. I compromised when he said it was a graffiti style, but to me it will never be anything more than me writing/painting my name, (not a tag), anywhere i chose to do it.
Im kinda a toy ngl but i Thought i was “build” for illegal graff, i did some tags and throwies illegal and Got busted with a Pretty shitty tag, now i only do legal, still not the best but improving. I do it not because i want respect, i do it for the good times with my buddies and i think that graffiti is the best Way for me to be creative.
I have my own wall I built in my backyard, there’s a video on my channel of me and my buddy from last summer, this summer has been a bit more difficult to paint on the regular… been doing graff for years now on and off just love it, it’s one of my outlets… always sound known Grim… stumped in the OG, looks like IZ, but I believe he passed away years ago.
When people use to ask me "What gives your the right to write on other peoples property?" Id answer "Me. I refuse to let others define my morality and choose to live free.". I knew what the costs where and was willing to pay them, so yeah Im that kinda person. But I tell the unsure the same as you, if your in it for the art then follow that, I don't let society define my path and you shouldn't let writers define yours. The art can lead to something more, the crime just leads to punishment...and good friends and memories ;P And even if you do follow the crime path, still concentrate on the art and you could become the next Doke, Smoe or Jimmy C (SOE) and spend the rest of your life doing awesome stuff.
I do graffiti to go over perverse - vandalism, & its fun + it's in my blood as my dad used to be a graffiti artist. With that being said I've beaten 3 court cases on the premise that I'm writing positive messages, & it's my right as freedom of expression here in Canada - I learned that if one isn't bothering anyone & is writing something positive on public property there are laws that legitimately can be spoke of like freedom of expression that really can get people out of any jurisdiction system troubles,
and earn a carte blanche in that regard. On someones property however without permission that's when real problems occur, or if really vandalizing with spiteful messages or negative slurs, covering landmarks or signs, etc.
Good video as always man. I agree with ya, graffiti is addicting as hell though.
Atleast for me lol
It definitely is
i fall into both catagories. I use to live in the hood, and a lot of bad people were in my school trying to pressure me into gangs. I live in an ok neighborhood now. but it's still not the greatist. so i felt like that was the better option. I also have ADHD which makes it hard on me to get out of stuff i already put my mind to. I feel like illegal graffiti isn't for me and it most definetly probably isn't for me, since i've already been caught, but i knew that would happen. When i started illegal graffiti i accepted the punishments that would come with it, granted i've only done a couple of hollows and tags. and on the other side im ignorant and stupid for doing it bc, why would i risk my freedom for a dumb name. but i feel as if i need to be noticed for some reason and as how hard my life already is, why would you make it harder with a stupid name
if you've never done illegal graffiti pls don't ever do illegal graffiti, stay in the books and sign up for art programs like im doing.
I do it for the same reason I urbex n hit cranes n shit, for the rush, for the feeling of that your the only one keeping your freedom in that moment, your the only one controlling what is happening in that moment, with cranes I am I the only one keeping myself from slipping and falling, one wrong move and your done, it’s that feeling that keeps us coming back for more
Interesting vid, I agree that that advice is bad for starters I would never tell someone to do that to themselves. Although I’ve always been a sticker writer I recently got into actual graffiti. Idk y I really do it maybe cuz it’s fun or I feel like I’m conquering something. I know it’s stupid but I like it and I could easily do it legally. I also feel like illegal is more part of the culture/artform. But yeah seeing a video like this makes me feel bad/stupid lmao. Anyways just givin my thoughts. Also that writer was iz in that photo
lol i can appreciate that though. That feeling of conquering i mean. For me personally, i feel like graffiti helped me get some confidence. I was a confident kid but when my step dad died (no need to feel bad it was a long time ago now) i clammed up and shut everything out. Graffiti really helped me come back out of my shell, and i feel like that was largely due to the confidence you get conquering things in illegal graffiti. Looking back at it, i wouldn't change it for the world but i recognize there likely were better ways to go about that. Im happy i did it though so i can understand your perspective i think.
Edit: also props for knowing IZ. IMO he's the Blackbeard of graffiti lol none higher than IZ The Wiz.
I got hit with graffiti felonies that followed me to adulthood. It fuckin sucks. I was that kid that had to do graffiti cuz a life so fucked up, then I survived a series of police brutalities that really pushed me to that one ugly sloppy FTP piece on the police station.
They fucked me up
I wish train cars weren't a big deal by the law/railroad industry. I honestly see THE best work( I'm not an expert but I do have a good eye) when driving home and the train is going by. I would never get to see and appreciate those great pieces of art if not for where they are. Also on that note, I personally wish this art could be made permanent and idk, even made into wall paper I could buy or something lol.
Illegal graffiti is a choice for life! To all the writers who think they can do it? Think twice, it is a choice for life..... do not cry after
Telling a new graffiti writer not to do illegal graffiti is truly the worst advice ever!
Man if it works for you it works for you. If illegal graffiti makes us happy it makes us happy that’s all that matters in the end
I’ve been finding there isn’t really much opportunity to do legal graffiti 🙃
I live a nice life with the aspects that you described and do worry about the consequences that come and are fully aware of them, however I write not for any immature reasons, but all for fun
yeah I get no other personal benefit out of it besides entertaining myself but that comes with any hobby. It requires commitment and resources to do ANYTHING you enjoy. If it means I have to intentionally put myself into a negative space to enjoy something then so be it
I know it sounds stupid but if my hobby will be illegal i'll just have to deal with the consequences
What i'm saying is I enjoy doing graff regardless of the legality, I don't care if it's legal or not
thanks john
yeah I would've listened to this and I do practice legally at my house but my city has no legal graffiti spots and and anybody who tries to start one gets shut down by the city for no reason so unless I wanna stay in my yard spraying the same canvas forever it the only choice.
Plus since in live in a pretty closed off town there are some really nice spots that have absolutely no chance of being caught by someone. like a wooden wall that's 10 minutes up a hill into a forest.
I respect this video
Anything risk adverse should have it's aspects considered. I know many writers who fell in love from afar and learned the rules while immersed. They weighed the risk to reward ratio on an individual basis a d went from there. Far more risk remaining in a toxic relationship than this lifestyle.
What if I threw in a "please"?
i meeeeean since you put it that way *passes you a back pack full of cans*
Do chill spots or be prepared for trouble lol
I don't think it's done for any other reason other than the adrenaline rush. If it was legal everywhere, it wouldn't be a rush and done more so for the other reasons mentioned. At least for me that's my view.
Stickers is an option to me. If I get caught penalty is not that big, I can get away with that. But anyway want to go to chill spot and do some stencils :)
Graffiti is not a choice, and some people dont go out of the confort ar thome to paint outside
Some dont have comfort in home the tags is our confort
Or there is the third that does illegal graff but is adults and not dumb or careless. They just understand how to move an how to sense a spot shit takes years to understand i feel like your just projecting your situation on to others cuz not everyone gets caught been doing this regularly for 15 years.
That's why I said TYPICALLY SPEAKING. This video had little to do with me and was heavily based on stories you guys told me and stories iv heard from the thousands I spoke to over the years. Also, dont know why youre comming after me on this when this video is specifically talking about literally aspiring writers who ask if they should get into it, this video isnt about active writers. Im not trying to stop active dudes from doing what they do, thats their business. With that said though, anyone who breaks the law with graffiti specifically certainly doesn't have their priorities straight. Not that I'm judging because I loved bombing when I used to and I love bombers who still rock, it's just a fact though, if you can't see that you're either actively avoiding it, lying to yourself or aren't mature enough to see you should work on your life.
Edit: also keep in mind I'm saying this as kindly and respectfully as possible. I know text may not always come accrost well, might seem more antagonistic than intended but I like you dude I remember you from other vids.
I been doing graffiti since high school
I don't wanna be disrespectful, i love your videos and what you're saying is mostly true, but in my opinion not doing illegal graffiti because you got "better options in life" is bullshit. I personally do graffiti because you break out from the ordinary life that everyone lives, experience something that not everyone can understand. they tell you that this is wrong, and tell you to play by their rules. In my opinion you should do what you want, and not what society expects from you, and i think that theres more to life than to live by societys standards. if you wanna do graffiti illegaly and it makes you happy, go on. if not, dont do it. You're right that some people just aren't made for graffiti, and if you need the approval of someone to do it, you should probably not do it. But i would never tell someone who wants to do it, not to. I respect your opinion, but i dont agree on all parts. ✌
Oh dude this isn't disrespectful at all, love how you worded it and I appreciate you taking the time to respectfully flesh out your views. While we don't agree, there isn't anything wrong with that 👍
I totally agree with you.theres raw kings and queens totally intelligent human beings rocking,freights, illegal cutty walls,legal walls and bombing super tuff nothing wrong with a triathlon writer,I'm not against the legal wall only graffers either why should someone say illegal graff ignorant.true graff is illegal to me everything else is just aerosal art which is all good 2 why hate..
I just like seeing my tag and drawing.
Lol what is the reason to write legally? To paint the wall like?
well i guess im frimly in the immature category then. its just exciting to do. and im pretty confident i know what im doing.
that being said, if you dm someone asking if you should do it or not, i think you really shouldnt
iz the wiz right? 0:46
writing illegally really depends on where you live, here in Turkey, Istanbul you cant get a fine or jail time like you would in the United States, graffiti in Europe is very normalized and not treated like a serious crime. So it would make sense for a European graffiti writer to keep painting illegally because the pros most of the time outweigh the cons. But in America im pretty sure they take graffiti very seriously and if i were to ever live there i wouldnt ever consider writing illegal graffiti :)
2:15 uuuuhhhhh daaaaaayyyum, hella realtalk right here. I'm not doing illegal graffiti, because it's against the law.... ***huhh, sorry, I had to cough***
what do you mean loose freedom ?
Get arrested, go to jail, stuff of that sort
@@Theartistblock ok, i’ve been doing it a few years but i’m only 15 and live in england so would I really be likely to go to jail ? i’m only chill about it and do it in calm quiet places every now and then i’m not all crazy doing it on trains.
@@Kyle-pg4pn For over 18's its a fine and/or up to three months in jail if you do under £5000 of damage. Over £5000 and they can give you up to ten years inside and a huge fine.
They are also changing the law so that they can give you ten years for writing on a statue or anything, say a building, that commemorates something or someone. This is for any amount of damage done, even just one tag.
Don’t get caught!
i agree
yoo, does the needle cap save the most paint??
Vandal before Artist, always.
IZ The Wiz TMB!!!
Graffiti not in the street, is just letter murals
Do it for the love of writing
I really think if anyone gives you advice that is commit crimes they arnt really the person to take advice from. Ive done illegal bombing and gotten in trouble for it im just fortunate enough to live in an area that is relatively safe. Not really gangs and graffiti is just a misdemeanor. But damn do you feel real immature and embarrassed when you get arrested for writing your name on a wall.
Like you arnt kidding when you say people who paint illegally when they got so much going for them are immature and childish but hey i guess im just trying to stay young at heart.
Hit the nail square on the head! Anyone who gives you the advice to commit a crime certainly doesn't have your best interests at heart. That simple, you said it 👌
Didn't you also say illegal Graff is what keeps the culture alive, or was that GR?
he might have said it but yeah i've said that and still 10000000000% stand by that. remember, this video is for giving advice to brand new people, not people who already made that choice, or will make that choice for themselves. once again, focused on people who are reaching out for advice.
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I like how he teaches kids that there are better ways to do graffiti than illegally
i agree with the fact that real writers is not gonna ask for graffiti, but dud why are you so salty ?? Like saying that people are immature and they are doing this for nothing, no one cares, your bad at this. All of that its useless and mean AF, i mean jeez take a chill pill.. Ive been doing graffiti for 10 years now and i never heard another writers talk like that, its kind of insulting cuz it feels like you are really saying that illegal graffiti is just completely useless. When you say that graffiti is done by 2 groupes of people "either people that have a really hard life, or people that are stupid" what ??? I think you know that is just no true.
then the "cuz no saine personne with a happy life is going to look to all the opportunities they have, and say you know what ? i wanna risk everything i have my life and my freedom and my opportunities for the future, in order to put a name up that nobody cares about even thought i suck at this art forme, let me go ahead and do this thing that i suck at, illegally, for the illusion of respect, that no one actually cares about" Sooooo... i think you know that that last sentence is completely wrong, yes there is some people on this earth that care about graffiti and new names, and yes there is some respect in graffiti, i mean looks like you don't respect it at all but some people do. If i resume your point, if your doing graffiti illegally and your not in a ghetto or have a really hard life, you are stupid, not good at this, and more stupid.
That is actually very insulting to alote of us that just want to do graffiti, some of us have normal life, even boring life some some of them, graffiti is to us is a passion, and a way of living in the city, a way to explore the city, and alote more. So egain, i think if they are asking, yes its probably not for them, but the rest is complet BS.
Oh no salt at all dude, I mean I myself still get the urge to do it though I don't, and I still love seeing others bomb so I guess I'm still immature and dumb lol. Even so, breaking the law for graffiti is simply an objectively bad decision. You have to agree no sane person would look at illegal graffiti and describe it as a responsible, mature, or smart thing to do.
@@Theartistblock So first of all breaking the law is not necessary bad i think that goes without saying. And what im really mad about is your general tone and some of the really mean shit you said in this video, wich in my opinion goes totally egainst graffiti principales. Like you saying that its useless, and no one is gonna care about it, and your bad anyway.. it kinda look like you are just projecting you own fears on to us. Maybe you think no one can look at graffiti in a responsable or mature way, but thats is YOUR opinion and YOUR vision of graffiti, and not general truth.
@@Snake-gf6uc i mean this video is about graffiti specifically, not about all crimes. its not about dealing drugs to support a fam, or something, its about graffiti so i dont care about other crimes because that's not what im talking about. this video has little to do with me, it was made from hearing thousands of stories from graffiti artists literally. so this isn't MY anything,. Even so this has much more to do with just good decision-making and logic, personal views are irrelevant when it comes to objectively good or bad choices. Good and bad choices dont care about how you or i feel and good and bad choices dont care bout our views. i explained myself well, and i stand by what i said, if you want to be mad, be my guest, im not going to argue because you got offended.
@@Theartistblock You know there is more then just good and bad right, the world is not black and white, good versus evil. And of course personal view count, and im not talking about other crimes or whatever, im talking about graffiti, the way your being literally insulting in this video for no reasons and have that mocking tone.
And if understand your logic it means that cuz you say its a bad choice, then its just true and no one can say other wise because it can get you into trouble so its objectively bad ? But sometimes it can be a little more complicated then that, depending on who you are, where you are..so yes personnel view count. Yes it can get you into trouble but that doesn't mean its objectively BAD, how many sports, or jobs are dangerous and life risking stuff, but people do it anyway, cuz it may have a good side that is worth the risk to some people. I mean other wise if we follow that logic far enough it means no one would ever do anything risky or against the law ever because its "objectively bad" and we all know that is not reality.
look dude, normally i sit and debate with people, normally i carefully read the argument people make, and respond with a well thought out response. normally id do that but i simply cant spend my time debating with someone who can't do something as simple as know whats good or bad for them. If you cant see how breaking the law for graffiti SPECIFICALLY is a bad idea then you're either too immature to debate with in the first place or you simply don't know any better and have bad decision-making skills. while I'm saying this as kindly as possible and while I mean no disrespect and I hold no hard feelings towards you I have to say this convo simply isn't worth my time. This is not a debatable topic and to do so only further proves my point as any mature-minded, responsible adult would agree with me.
Do what you want, this video isn't to convince already involved writers to stop, it was to shed light to hesitant, aspiring writers who specifically wanted advice on the topic. If you took offense then that's on you. for the sake of being productive with my day this will be my last response. sorry friend.
Yeah guys do it legal not ilegal
5:53 - 4:11maybe I shouldn't do graffiti 👀😬
I was brought into it from inspiration of my father.
Although I probably am not alike him "savage" wise. I still want to start doing it illegally, but not crazy yk. Abandoned buildings, storage places, alley ways, chill spots, under bridges, signs and ect.
bridges are funnnn
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