Screwfix Titan or Lidl's Parkside Plunge Saw? [video
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2019
- Lots of questions about the #Lidl #Parkside #Tracksaw vs the Screwfix Titan, so in this video I run through the pros and cons of each and tell you which one I’d buy. Enjoy!
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Peter, i watched this video and went on Screwfix, but Titan cost now 169£
Thanks; the Titan was discontinued this year, replaced by the MacAllister MSPS1200 at £100. *NB: I haven't used this, I'm not recommending it.* I think you may have seen the "Triton" saw (TTS1400, orange coloured bodywork) which sells at £170 but is a different saw altogether. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop I really need one this weekend. Would you suggest any CIRCULAR saws with adapters to guide rail ?
I have the evolution one, but haven’t used it yet, tbh. Sorry, I don’t have much experience of guiderail-capable circular saws - I’ve been plunge/tracksaw-based for around 15 years. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks Peter, then i will be looking for a plunge : )
I'm quite partial to parkside and have been using the plunge saw for a while - great machine for the price. Big thanks for making me aware of the 2.8m evolution rails, just ordered them.
This is why it's good to have competition, keeps the prices affordable and where they really should be! 😉👌
Great side by side, mate. Appreciate your efforts. 👍
Cheers Bill!
Enjoy your videos got the Parkside saw, amazon had run out of blades so went to FXX who are doing the triton blade for £8.31 incl deleivery
Great video again man! i love reviews like this! that makes it easier to determine which brand I have to buy
Amazing. We live in North Carolina in the USA and Lidl started their entry into our country in this area. I travel to Germany for work and was initially amazed that grocery stores like Lidl and Aldi sold tools but have now purchased dozens of tools and DIY pieces and parts from both stores here. I have never owned a track saw and having a large shop and large stationary tools I’ve never desired them, but this series has opened my eyes to their versatility so I’ll be keeping my eyes out for this saw if it ever his our stores. Thanks for a great series, Peter! Scott
Thanks Scott! Very versatile tools the Tracksaw, love mine! 👍👍
Thanks for the heads up I managed to get 1 last week along with some delicious Portuguese tarts (from the bakery)
where else would you pick up a Portuguese Tart Tim?
Thank you for another excellent review I have the Titan and I am really pleased with it got it after I took my Aldi one back, 👍😀
Cheers Peter, just bagged the park side for £40. They had newer model for £60, specs appeared the same. Cheaper than my table saw blade👍😀
Thanks Peter, I picked up a Lidl model last week. Have watched all your track saw videos and looking forward to getting started over the weekend!
Excellent! Hope it goes well! 👍
First class reviews on all tools so informative. Thanks
Thank you! 👍
My local Lidl store has one saw left, I think I might pop down and buy it and flip it on eBay now you've given it your recommendation!
😂👍
Peter your channel is the best! Had been wanting to get into woodworking for a while, watching videos on CZcams etc - I saw your original park side vid on my birthday - the 6th of June - went straight out and bought one and since then have started a few beginner projects and am turning a spare garage we have into a woodworking shed. Not sure what the neighbours think but I’m having a blast and my other half is very pleased I’m making things for the house and finally doing all the DIY I said I’d do over the last X years. So thank you from us both! The crosscut jig you showed has been really useful for cutting dados and grooves for joining, if I can work out how to cut mitres with it now I’ll be all set..!
Thanks Neil! Good to hear you're enjoying it! 👍
Another great review and comparison. Love the honesty
Thanks! 👍
Great vid Peter, bought one on the back of your first video and really happy thank you
Thanks! 👍👍
Great vid as always. Looking forward to the Evolution rail one.
Thanks Andrew! 👍
great review I have the Titan with the Triton blade running on the long Makita track on a home made MFT table useing Ooznest extrusion and thanks to your video's its awesome so thank you so much Peter ,
Thanks! Sounds like you have the full set, lol! 😂😂👍👍
Nice work Peter 👍🏻👊🏻
Nice video Peter, informative and clear as usual. Thank you, I’ve learnt a lot from you.
I have the Titan saw which I got to cut 30mm beech worktops which it did easily. Like you I also found the kick back preventer a pain and eventually took it off. I now set up cuts on big sheets of 18mm ply very carefully and make sure I’ve got a good grip on the saw! I find the depth stop tricky to get right and the gauge untrustworthy. But it’s been a great tool and I have completely reconsidered my ambition to fit a table saw in my small workshop.
Mine is just over a year old and came from Screwfix with 2 rail clamps. Maybe I just got lucky!
Thanks Mike! Great to hear you’re getting along with the tracksaw approach. I ‘worked wood’ without a tablesaw for ~14 years or so, and even now don’t use it much! 👍👍
Thanks for your time doing these videos cheers
Thanks Tom! 👍👍
New to the channel. Can I say am really enjoying the back catalogue of your work. Cheers.
Thanks, and welcome! 👍
Ordered a triton blade £9.99 from screwfix for my titan as usual great little video
I bought a Kregg Accucut track saw guide for my Ryobi circular saw. Cost $149 AUD (about £70) Not bad for anyone not wanting/needing a track saw everyday. Cuts pretty neat with 40 + tooth blade
Great info as ever Peter, cheers! I've used the Parkside for a couple of years, always worked fine if slightly rough and the rails feel a bit flimsy. Biggest improvement came from replacing the splinter strip with some thicker neoprene from eBay as per a previous video of yours. I picked up the Titan for £55 from B&Q and it feels a bit more dialed in already, so hopefully an upgrade! I'll get the 48t blade pronto...
Thanks! Titan’s a steal at £55! Nice one! 👍👍
Great vid, Peter! I for one am looking forward to the video on the video on the evolution rail.
It's coming, Goran - just need to get this 'work' stuff out of the way first... 👍🤷♂️
Great round-up Peter,pay your money and take your choice!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cheers Alan! 👍👍
Good balanced comparison (Says I as a Parkside track saw owner!)… One more argument in favour of the Parkside model is the 3 year warranty... one year more than for the Titan.
I'm glad these videos are bringing new, well deserved, visibility to your channel. It shows there is demand for quality reviews of equipment at the low end of the tool spectrum. On a related note, I'm sometimes wondering what one gets extra from buying premium branded tools (The Festool TS55 has some comfort features but it doesn't seem to cut better or faster, and I find it hard to justify the price difference).
Thanks! And yes, that was the thinking behind the Festool V Cheap tool series; what exactly are you missing when you buy an entry level saw over a premium one. 👍
Excellent as always
Thanks! 👍
I love my Titan plunge saw, but I do wish it had the Festool-style depth guage like the Parkside one.
Hiya Peter. Yet another cracking upload. Very informative.
I was using my parkside plunge saw today and I have to say that (particularly for the low price) its a pretty decent machine. I’ve got an Evolution circular saw which is very good for an economy saw as well but I must say the parkside is quite a bit quieter in operation.
I saw about twenty parkside saws on the shelf the day I went into Lidl. Should have bought the lot and sold them on through Ebay. ££££
Cheers again for a great channel.
Thanks! Glad to hear you're happy with yours - they're a great machine, and hard to beat for the money! 👍
Saw the videos, went to Lidl, bought the saw. No time like the present for this type of store purchase, don't wait as you'll miss out. Many thanks
Strike while the iron’s hot👍👍
Hi pete another great video I went out and got myself an erbaur plunge saw and that’s bloody great for the money. It isn’t the best but it’s definitely value for money and as always I do what you say and make my tools better by making little upgrades and adjustments to them. Take care
Thanks! I keep meaning to pick up an Erbauer, annoyed I missed them when they were on offer!. Good saws by all accounts! 👍
I've gone out and purchased the Lidl plunge saw.
It does come with a reving knife. Maybe it's a newer version.
The parkside also is not compatible with the Makita rails.
Nice post and good channel
Being a site house build joiner would be good to hear your opinion on the more named brand ones vs the Festool
I have all Makita cordless I’ve been anchoring on buying there cordless track saw a while now but it would be pure indulgence that is until I get around to all those jobs of my own
I couldn’t bring myself to but Aldi or similar
Peter,
Inspired by the Plunge Saw Series, I bought a ALDI PTSS 1200 C1. (C1 next generation ??).
I even made the Cross Cut jig and 3D printed stops to hold the rail in place.
Works great.
One minor thing, do You know if its possible to fix the red eccentric adjusting knobs ?
They seem to come lose after a few cuts.
I tried the screws with an Allen key, but they are already maxed.
Thanks for the useful tips
Thanks for this
Commenting before watching. Im hoping Parkside wins. Come on parkside!
😂
I think the biggest difference between the two is quality control. The restoration couple channel just bought the park side one and his had a poor chip strip on so wasn’t useable and had to be returned. It does look like a cracking saw, unless your local B&Q has the Titan for £70 (I’ve seen reports of it down to £50!)
Ok, another tool for my garage that won't get used much, but what the hell, don't smoke , rarely drink, so I can always look at my array of tools, nice and shiney lol thanks for posting Peter, as always, from Garry in Barnsley
Cheers Garry! 👍
your recent videos have been great...
Thank you! 👍
Hi peter, I have just watched your review so I decided to go with the Titan as I thought it would be readily available. Alas Screwfix no longer sell it. The cheapest they do now is the Scheppach for £176.99p or the Erbauer for £179.99p. So it looks like I'll have to wait for Lidls to stock their one. It's a shame they don't an online shop for their electricals etc all year round.
I picked up a titan saw in b&q few weeks ago they had a stack of them reduced to 55 quid used it first time today was very impressed i wish id got two now ;)
Great value at full price - at £55 it’s a steal! 👍👍
Hi, Peter, I was watching "the restoration couple" today and he has just bought a Parkside saw but for some reason, the saw is about 3 mm away from the blade and is curved so that it doesn't touch the wood. Neither problems were present on my saw when I bought it and I suggested that he return it and gets another one.
Thanks John. I had a chat with Tim about his saws last week before he posted his video, and I agree - he has a dad. I’d have returned it as soon as I found that funky mess all over the blade guard, tbh... 👍👍
Peter you are developing a bit of a reputation - it’s a good one - keep on tracking.😉
Plungesaw Pete, that’s me! 😂😂👍👍
Bloody bought one now cheers Peter. I'll need to use it soon enough, I usually see tools in Aldi and Lidl and think I could do with that but when I come round to needing it it's no longer on sale ,been using a mini Ozito track saw for a while for stuff less than 18mm which is handy .
Excellent video as ever. I have bought the evolution guide rails for my Titan saw. I am looking forward to your thoughts on the evolution rails as mine do not have much grip at all when not clamped. So much so I am now looking for some new grip strips. Any help you can offer re this will be appreciated. Keep up the great content 👍😀
Interesting, I haven’t used the Evo rails in anger yet so haven’t had the chance to check out the grip. Best grip of all the rails I have is the Festool - do a search for Festool guiderail cushion strip and you should fine something. Only comes in 10metre lengths (I think) and not cheap, but great grip! 👍👍
Im working on Parkside, bought it 2 years ago in Lidl for around £69. Perfectly working on Festool Rails
Just recomending to change blade Im using dewalt blade on it.
👍 Good saw’s. Quality control seems to have been a bit hit & miss on last years models, but Lidl are always good on returns & warranty claims. And yes, totally agree about changing the blade.👍
A few questions spring to mind. Is Tech Support available? Are replacement parts available ? Do the importers have service centers of their own to repair product that they sell? Are the non importer service centers that exist ( I'm assuming that there are independent tool and machinery repair companies in the UK), willing and able to work on these tools. Given the low cost of these tools I imagine it's going to be less money to replace them than it is to repair them.
I have watched all your numerous excellent plunge saw reviews setups etc but I am considering buying one and there seem to be very few reviews on Erbauer saw at Screwfix. Would you consider making one on this budget saw?
Nigel Timms I have a Erbauer one perfectly ok, l use it for rough stuff instead of Festool battery TS55 rail work with both slightly larger blade.
Hi Peter- looks like the Parkside saw is popular - for info the saw saw is branded Ozito in Australia, though it has different colour and available at Bunnings. Bunning also sells a 1500mm Ozito/Parkside guide rail (with a joiner for $50 AUD..
It is pretty handy saw. I personally abuse these the saws (and some festools) turning them into angle grinders with a Lenox metal max blade.....
Good info, thanks! I figured someone must be doing a longer track for these, weird we don’t get to have access to it over here. 🤷♂️👍👍
in the Netherlands the Titan saw is branded as "Batavia" and is available at Praxis for 119 euros
Pete just to throw a rock in have you looked at the evolution track saw I know you mention the track but not the saw it’s something I’m looking at
11 minute 31 second workshop, im in, the longer the better👍
Haha, thanks! Only put that in because someone complained it was a '10-mionute workshop but 11 minutes long' 😂😂
The Lidl saw is also available in Europe, particularly Italy where I'm told it's nearer £79.99 in price.
Impressive view count. I've got 1500 odd off my review also. Useful saw, I'll be using it later to trim the bottom off my very large heavy shed door later.
Thanks Benedict. Yes, I think I said in the first video that some subscribers in Belgium say it’s available all year round at a similar price. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Interesting to know.
This might not be the best place to ask, but here goes. I have tried doing some 45deg cuts on my Titan and those seem to have cut more of the rubber strip making 90 deg cuts difficult to get accurate again as the strip is not straight anymore where the saw did a 45deg cut. Do the non-budget saws (Festool/Makita/others) do that too ? In a way a single beveled cut messed up my good rail (yes, I did reapply the strip and cut it again). Thanks
I don’t know for sure, but I think Festool are the only saw that hits the splinterguard perfectly on a bevel cut; Mafell certainly doesn’t - the blade moves away from the normal cut line when you bevel it. 👍
Great series... We just love your aldi and lidl tool comparisons 😁
Thanks! Ooo! Aldi vs Lidl - that’s coming up next... 😂😂😂
@@10MinuteWorkshop I can't decide between the 2... Lidl have 5kg of screws on Monday for 17euro. You can't go wrong.... Or can you!!!!
Cheers Peter. I have another one for you to review. McAllister have now got one selling in screwfix for £100. looks very simular to the Titan. I'm still torn. Prob just get the Parkside and upgrade the blade. worked for the bandsaw
I think they are both owned by kingfisher (not 100% sure though).
@@bighands69 both owned by screwfix/b&q - kingfisher own Erbauer, Titan and Mcallister. They just changed the branding from the Titan to Mcallister they look identical.
My Local B&Q was selling off the McAllister Plunge saws for £55 so I grab one and they look exactly the same as the Titan saw all the specs are the same, They must come out of the same factory, The rails are not very good and once joined are not square whatever i do, I think they need recutting square but since it was so cheap I just paid £50 for the Makita 1.4m rail from Screwfix. Thanks for all the Great Videos Peter
Sounds like a bargain! 👍👍
I think B&Q and Screwfix are owned by kingfisher. So I would suspect who ever is manufacturing them is in the same plant.
they were also selling the titan at 55 on clearance, i got one in a heartbeat
Another really helpful vid Peter. Have found the parkside plunge saw very useful a few times already since I got it. As I dont have a table saw, I have found it's quite versatile and is serving me well so far (apart from the vacuum connector which cracked, taped it up like yours now!). Got my eye on the evolution tracks... Thanks
P.s I've been looking maybe getting a Mitre saw and saw evolution do one quite reasonably priced. Can you recommend? Also, compound or sliding? Cheers
Thanks! I have an Evolution mitre saw on a longer-term test though I haven't used it all that much as I've had a lot going on. Let me just say that they're great if you have the need for a saw that will cut mild steel as well as timber, but if you just want something to cut wood then you can probably get a better finish elsewhere.
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you
Peter have you had Chance to do any reviews on biscuit joiners ? I’m in too minds weather to buy one I’m just not shore if it will get used enough.
I bought the cheapest one I could a month or two back (Aldi), but haven’t got around to using it yet apart from a couple of quick tests. 🤷♂️👍
sold at bunnings in Australia as the Ozito plunge track saw. it's a decent bit of kit for the price.
Ozito is not exceptionally cheap (almost double) - about $200 AUD. Alternatively you can buy Bayer (Titan clone) for $50 more from Sydney Tools with Makita/Festool matching rails and upgrade path.
In the UK Ozito brand is available in Homebase chain... since some Aussie retail bought them few years back.
Hey thanks, this helped me choose the current Titan from Screwfix which I'll pick up later. £39!
Wow! Don’t realise it was still available, but that’s a bargain! 👍
You sure that’s not just a circular saw??
Looking forward to the story about the drawer units with the suspiciously familiar foot shape.
All in time. And these are just little side tables with shelves, btw. 👍👍
The Titan tracksaw i think is sold in my country as a in house brand called Mac Alister. the dead giveaway are the controls.
The Titan's now been discontinued, and replaced with... the MacAllister! 👍🤷♂️
Hi peter love your shows and input.i bought the sheppach cs55 plus the 2 rails at 700mm a year ago now iam finding the rail isnt staying true to my marks at the moment i think the splinter guard rubber is coming loose.do u know if they do a replacement of this or is there another brand i can use to replace with.also does the cs55 tracksaw fit onto a Makita rail and festool rail just wondering seeing as this is a german brand? Regards david
Hi David. The closest I’ve been to a Scheppach tracksaw is the Aldi I used for my Tracksaw Workshop series last year - made by Scheppach I believe. The splinterguard is replaceable - usually just held on with double-sided tape. I cover the procedure in the Tracksaw Workshop series. I used Makita splinterguards and they worked pretty well with the Aldi rails, but I had the best results with some slightly thicker rubber strip I bought from eBay. I show the advantages in video #286 - Splinterguard Swap - czcams.com/video/h1eo4ZVBTOU/video.html. Again, I’ve no direct experience of the Scheppach saws I’m afraid, but my experience if the Aldi saw is that they would run poorly on Festool rails, I’m afraid. 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks for your quick reply peter👍..yeah i was looking at Makitas rubber on amazon theres another one i seen but not sure i will defo check your link you sent for sure thanks again.
Hi Peter, I know you've got a vid coming up about the evolution tracks, but can you let me know if the scheppach/Aldi cs 55 fits them please, I can only find info that the scheppach pl45 does.
Hi Leigh. I can't say for sure about the Scheppach saws, but the Aldi Workzone saw I have definitely fits on the evolution rails, yes. HTH, P
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks Peter , helps a lot 👍
Probably too late now but I have the Scheppach PL55Li (cordless version of PL55) and the Evolution tracks. The saw does not fit them properly as it overhangs the splinter guard so you can't cut it back. I ended up buying another 1400mm Scheppach rail for that saw and also buying a MacAllister saw from Screwfix (seems to be the replacement for the Titan saw featured here) for the Evolution tracks and that will cut the splinter guard, although not right up to the edge of the rail (not sure how important that is).
hi peter great video. i just picked up the triton plunge saw because ill be cutting full sheets of plywood for flooring soon. i would like to get set up so i can cut the full lengths. whats the cheapest/best option to get rails to cut 2.4m lengths? i bought the triton instead of the workzone as you said it is more compatable with other rails. thanks
Hi Matt. Best option for rails right now is the Evolution rail package with two 1400 rails, clamps and a bag for ~£70;don't know why by my replies are getting chopped up, but the link is in the video description. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks for getting back to me peter
I’m still getting great results from my Workzone. Do you happen to know if the Workzone fits the Evolution tracks
Good to hear! I’ll have to check re the Evo tracks and the workzone saw. 👍
Peter Millard Thank you.
Hi Peter, on a related subject is the hinge for your fixed track saw rail a Festool specific item or could I adapt it to create a fixed rail with my Aldi rails(s)? I looked on the website but couldn't locate it as a stand alone component.
It's part of the Festool MFT system (see videos #182 & 183) and the hinge is specific to Festool rails. They are available as a spare part, but the price isn't listed - last tie I looked they were a few hundred quid for the set. 🤷♂️🤔
Aldi uses Scheppach rails, so while you can't buy them from Aldi, you can get them from scheppach - at a price...
@nasser d
Parkside saw comes from LIDL not ALDI.
Workzone TOOLS ARE ALDI & Peter has a workzone tracksaw review.
Watch his videos.
Ta, I suspected as much. It caught my attention when I watched said vids, faithful acolyte that I am, and I've looked around at a few DIY options which various on here have califudged. It's not a necessity for me as I've made a table top sled/jig with fixed stops which serves me admirably but one alway wants the gadget doesn't one.
Great video as always, as a result I think will keep hold of the additional £350 ish for the Makita SP6000J1 and buy the Titan.....!
Ive got a dewalt after my parkside was stolen. Honestly apart from the rail length and power input (110v) The parkside was just as capable as the dewalt. So the Titan probably is.
Wise move 👍😆
I've got the Makita 110v. The cordless version wasn't available at the time, or I'd have opted for that without hesitation. Anyway, I don't know what you plan to use it for, but I'm sure you will find the short rails frustratingly limiting very quickly.
Then you will, as Peter mentions, find yourself shelling out another £80 for the evolution rails. This still gets you a remarkable tool, with two short and two longer rails for roughly half the price of the big boys.
Happy shopping!
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Cheers
We can actually get both of these saws in the US now. Wen sells a version of the Titan saw, and Menards carries the Lidl saw under their Masterforce name.
Good to know, thanks! 👍
Hi Peter,, good video as usual, just wondering will a Makita run on the Parkside track?? yea,, its £69.99 here with me also in NI.
Thanks! The Makita should do, though I don’t own one so have never tried I’m afraid. Why would you want to, out of interest? The tracks are probably the weakest part of the Parkside package. 🤔🤷♂️
@@10MinuteWorkshop My friend has a Makita saw but his track is damaged, just thought he could buy the Parkside and use the track with the mikita also..
Titan £55 in my local b&q, I saw another video on youtube where the splinter guard on the Parkside wasn't wide enough for the blade to cut through it and there was a gap, Parkside looks 2nd best and dearer, no brainer.
Yeah, that was probably Rim’s vid at Restoration Couple? He had a dud saw, no question. I’d have taken it back as soon as I saw the hunk on the blade cover. But yes, Titan at £55 is a steal. 👍
Got the Parkside yesterday on your recommendation. £69.99. I already have Evolution guide rail and the two work together great. Only problem with the Evolution is that you can't get hold of replacement splinter guards from them. The longer ones are always out of stock even on the Evolution site. Any recommendations for alternative replacement splinter guards please?
I always use the Makita splinter guard, works great! Makita 3-metre splinter guard - amzn.to/2TdVApS
@@10MinuteWorkshop Many thanks for that Peter.
Kickback I have a Titan saw and am often experiancing kickback. hoe do you set these saws up to avoid this problem?
Sharp blade and a slow plunge usually is all you need. Anti-kickback stop if you really need it. Lots more about plunge saw setup in the tracksaw workshop series, full series and all tracksaw related videos are in the tracksaw workshop playlist. 👍👍
Peter I see you have evolution track does it fit with titan track, I've seen comments it does and ones it doesn't, a titan track and a 1400 evolution track together be handy for triming doors
I'll have a video out about the Evolution track before too long, but I don't see why there'd be a problem; the titan track is as close to the makita track as you can get, and the makita track is Festool-pattern with an added lip. Workshop's a spray booth right now so I can't get at anything, but I'll take a look and post back 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks Peter
Hi Peter here in Belfast Lidl have on sale for £69.99.
Paul, I got one in Lidl, Stewartstown Rd last week for £59.99. Was in yesterday and the last one was reduced by 30% to £41.99. Bought it and took the other one back. Not a bad deal for £42.... Back of the net
Are those plunge saws a better buy than the Evolution track saw?
If you’re working mostly with wood, yes. The Evolution is good if you need to to cut multi materials, but if you’re mostly working with wood then the others will give a much better finish. 👍
Titan is also sold in France by the bricodepot as cheaper options for name brands. The parkside tools are from the German company Grizzly (different from the US Grizzly tools) one can buy spare parts and extras in the grizzly site.
Good to know, thanks Wim! 👍👍
Peter so can you confirm that the Titan runs on the Evolution track with no issues? As I am going to get myself the Titan for £90 a pair of 1.4m Evolution rails with the bag and clamps for £70 as I have some store credit at Screwfix and love their customer service especially on their own brands . Thank you for the work you do I have learned a lot from this channel.
Yes. At 8.17 in this video I put the Titan saw on the evolution track - works great! And thanks! 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshopthanks again I am planning my new workshop out and as space is limited I'll be copying your set up for the track saw etc
Do I understand correctly that the Titan fits on a Makita rail ? Thank you
Yes, absolutely. 👍
I like your performens,can you please make a test to The Lumberjack PS165 circular plunge track saw,please
Never seen that one before - I'll see if I can get my hands on one. 👍
Thks
Recently returned my saw as could not remove blade to replace with triton one, replacement saw now up and running 👍. Seems restoration couple channel had same problem with his. Not glowing review from him...
Would be interested in whether they just had a dud although if you couldn't remove the blade either then maybe its a common issue. Peter's comments on this would be interesting.
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Yes, I had a chat with Tim last night - looks like he had a dud, no question. I'd have chucked it back to Lidl as soon as I found the gunk all over the housing, personally. Good to hear you're happy with the Titan though! 👍
I had a quick chat with Tim last night and I'm sure he had a dud. It does raise a question of quality control from one year to the next though - my saw is last year's model. I've also seen similar issues with the Aldi bandsaw - I reviewed it a couple of years ago, and folks have bought the current model after seeing my 2-year-old video and are having problems with blade alignment because of bad QC. 🤷♂️
Peter Millard
The replacement was another parkside, no problem in exchanging and now fine.
Hi Peter B&Q in Washington Tyne and Wear is selling the Titan for £55 at the moment not sure if it’s the same in all there stores.
Thanks Gary! It varies from store to store. Great price for the Titan, btw 👍
It is a great price Peter trouble is I bought mine a few weeks ago after watching a review you done and paid £70 from the same place!! Never mind
I’m very pleased with it. Love watching your videos keep up the good work.
Gary Tuck Haha - at least you didn’t pay £110! And thanks! 👍👍
I think the Lidl one is a generic Chinese model (with slight variations) - it looks suspiciously like the one I just got from Rutland tools, where they're branded it themselves with a sticker. But I think it's pretty good. I actually upgraded the tracks to Festool 1400s as I wasn't happy with A) the fact you need 4 of the original ones to cut an 8 x4 and B) the single-bar joining system does not inspire confidence. Much nicer with the Festool track. Cost me as much as the saw for 2 tracks and the joining bars, mind. I've also got a Freud 40 tooth blade in there and all in all, it works well. I've been cutting nice B/BB birch ply for kitchen cupboard doors, so the cuts have to be perfect at least on one side. The other thing about the Festool track is that the splinter guarding of the rubber strip actually works, because it's thick and high quality. It was useless on the other ones. Worth the upgrades for critical work, I think and still waaay cheaper than a Festool (that's my justification anyway)!
Yes, it's certainly very similar visually to the Rutlands one - couldn't say if they were made in the same factory without seeing them together, and probably not even then, lol! And yes, I agree - the tracks are the thing that let the saw down; a single 1400 rail would be much better, but we seem to be stuck with 2# 700s at the entry level.
Throw in a Diablo TC blade and they'll be as good as anything
B&Q is own by Kingfisher. Across the channel they own DIY chain Castorama.
FYI right now the Titan is on clearance in B&Q at £55. Picked one up today when I was there for something else as it was too good an opportunity to miss. If anyone's missed out on the Parkside (looks like it's been and gone again), try and grab one of these while you can.
Edit: It doesn't show up on the website. Maybe only some stores have some in, i don't know. Interestingly, the 'Macallister' version, B&Q's own-brand for tools, is £100 and looks identical apart from colour.
Considering b&q / screwfix and all their associated own-brands are all part of Kingfisher group, they obviously come from the same factories.
Good to know Ian, thanks!
I checked b&q webpage before read your comment to the end and had the same conclusion. Both saws are different colour only. Digging deeper I found Erbauer's saw has blade cover different but the pattern on the motor shell looks the same.
So is it worth to pay extra for different colours? Prices at 23/06/19 are as follows Erbrauer £149, Macallister £100, Titan £89.
@@mil3k Hi. The Erbauer has a different blade size, depth of cut & specs. generally, so not the same saw, just FYI.
strange here in belgium you can get it one there webside the parkside
Yes, only seems to be here in the UK that it's a 'special buy' 🤷♂️👍
Hi, does the titan track saw fit the evolution rails?
Yes, it does! 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop brilliant, or would you recommend spending a little extra for the makita rails?
That’s a tough one tbh. The Evo rails are a fantastic price - £70-odd for two # 1400 rails is outstanding value - but I do think the Makita rails are better, if you can fund them. 👍👍
Parkside back in store 6 June 2021. Scandalous £69.99.
MacAllister vs Parkside video, out next week. 👍
I buy the Parkside at Lidil a few days ago for 34.99.
Bargain! 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop yes it was.
Still cant beat the £29.99 I paid for the Aldi one, does a good enough job, but if I was using it all the time I would spend a bit more a get a 'named' branded one
I have a Mafell one that cost about £1100.
@@bighands69 Festool..
I think the Titan might be on the way out. Screwfix have had it reduced for ages and no store seems to have it in stock nor can it be delivered :-/ New model or end of life!
Yes, it’s been ‘on clearance’ ate some B&Q stores as well; hopefully a new model, wouldn’t make sense to discontinue , I wouldn’t have thought 🤷♂️ 👍👍
So the titan is an exact fit to the makita track
Yes, all Festool-pattern tracks, including the Makita. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop thankyou
When the Parkside is not available Rutlands has a clone of it in blue and red the price fluctuates like the Titan but they do, pretty regularly, do a 12 hour deal for power tools which you can sign up to receive by email
yup, i got mine for £70 from Rutlands. not let me down yet
Nice! Yes, the Rutland seems to be identical - didn’t know about the specials though! 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop recently got the thicknesser, planner for under 160 rather than 240 they do some great deals, if it was something you were going to buy that is
@@CharlieSkapentry you really do need to wait for the discounts they do the bit the bullet
BOA TARDE TITAN FUNCIONA NO CARRIL MAKITA
Obrigada. Sim. Melhores votos de Londres
Titan saw down to £59 in my local b+q.......👍
At 2.08 did you say they both weigh 8 kilos? Is it 8lbs ?
No, Kilos. Neither are a lightweight tool... 🤷♂️
I've had the festool for over 15 years still as accurate as possible. These are all copy cats. I'll stay with the best. Festool is worth the price. You get what you pay for
Which is exactly what I said in the first Festool vs Cheap Tool video #071. But the truth is that not everyone has the money for that kind of saw, or needs the kind of features they offer, and saws like these provide outstanding value for money for those people.