Men's Boulder & Lead final || Laval 2023
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- čas přidán 28. 10. 2023
- The second out of five IFSC Continental Qualifiers is scheduled to take place at Espace Mayenne, in Laval, France. Two tickets to the Olympic Games Paris 2024 will be at stake in the men's and women's Boulder & Lead event, with climbers from 19 European countries taking the stage.
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Like to hide spoilers 😊
Dislike cause this is lame.
This is great!
@FainTMako tell me how?
@@FainTMakowatching the replay tonight and got effing spoiled when opening it on my phone with a « happy for » comment. Kinda ruined the fun… so I wanna give all the likes to that guy
@@PPKFilmsexactly what happened to us 😅 Let's help others to enjoy the sport we love
He made sure there was absolutely no doubt, what an unbelievable finish.
Seriously. The points were like .1 higher than Alberto…which would have been absolute agony. Luckily he just absolutely smashed the whole route so it was only the regular kind of agony for Alberto 😂. I do hope he makes it in eventually.
Adam's move on M4 should be called "tree-bar" because its a knee-bar with the legs in the tree pose from yoga
I would like to nominate the "Tree-bar" as the name of this move.
1:39:21 for timestamp for those who didn't remember the move
Some people just call it "useless" because it didnt serve any real purpose but I guess the move did please some of the people who are just in it for the visuals lol.
@@FainTMakoHelped him get to the zone so not completely useless. Could probably be better used on other boulders though admittedly
They named it Flamingo. Quite accurate I think :D
Yannick fan ever since that time he spent his last minute brushing the holds for Adam. Dude seems so chill and steady
so real
11:25 Boulder M1 Introduced 12:19 Climbing Starts
2:11:45 Lead Observation 2:24:08 Climbing Starts
Thank you dear sir/madam
Thank u
I love you
i love you
You both are such great commentators, thanks for adding insight and tension. Loving Shauna's knowledge.
+1 Seldom that you hear such sympathetic, empathic and knowledgable commentators! Very fitting for such a sport. Hope you guys are with us for a long time. 😃🥰
So happy for Toby but man my heart goes out to Adam. That foot slip has to hurt
Ye… at least the good news for Adam is that he still wouldn’t have came first since tony had more points in boulder.
^^ this. Adam would have gotten beaten anyways if he topped it too. 😢 Them young guns really making the good ole boys work for it.
That being said ondra is honestly looking better than ever. His adaptability to new styles is literally unmatched and he’s looking so strong
Really bummed for Adam's season! So many slips/mistakes where we all know he could've done so much better. But yeah, I'm comforted by the fact that Toby would've taken it anyway. What a beast!
@@shmalts1really? I felt like the commentators were right - he keeps coming up short on avoidable mistakes.
I'll never get enough of Shauna and Matt they have such flawless chemistry
Excited to have these back on CZcams in full length! Thank you! This can only be good in terms of spreading the climbing enthusiasm.
Indeed!
It was super exciting to have Shauna in the commentary box. Very insightful.
2:36:28 is when Yannick Flohé loses his glasses, the rope knock them out and you can see the light flash in the glass' lenses as they fall 😅 Glad they survived that drop lol
Over the moon happy for the men's winner!
But this format is just heartbreaking. As if there shouldn't have been silver and bronze. Watching outstanding athletes almost crying having to stand on this podium was upsetting. Seems like either just 1 winner and no podium or all 3 get tickets would have been more fair.
100%
I agree with only just one winner and no podium. I don't think that giving the top 3 from every continent the Olympic tickets is ideal, especially when there's only 20 spots.
Well yeah, that crashes that myth that climbers are genuinely happy when their competitors thrive. Up to a point, like any other sport or area of life.
@@dakiblabla sad to see this happening because - just my feeling -of this Olympic hype. Kills the kinship.
@@goloher I think that both things exist in climbing - some people just like to climb and are happy to share, and some like to compete. Even outside, first ascent, grade fights, speed records... it's not always amiable.
Brilliant to be able to watch all the semi-finals and finals. Great coverage and commentary
I can't imaginen being in Alberto's shoes. Those 2 emotions he felt after Adam and Tobby, felt that but he definitely has a chance to qualify.
2nd and 1st place werent even close.. points wise
@@longb1913I didn't say anything about points for a reason. Anything can happen during a lead wall, that's why I understand how Alberto was feeling and why I wouldn't want to be in his shoes knowing that Adam and Toby are fierce competitors.
Idk how exactly the qualification process works, but I'm sure we'll see many of these athletes in the Olympics anyway. I feel like he has a good chance at qualifying. (Which will be no good consolation to him right now.)
Shauna doing a great job❤. Please invite her more often!
LOVE that Ondra chalks up while reading the lead route xD
As we all do, chalk is life
I love that Toby seemingly kept looking at his Dad whilst saying how much he had helped and how thankful he was
The interview at the end was really nice. It felt like the conclusion of a great epic.
Please make Shauna a permanent cohost. They vibe so well and she adds so much to the commentary.
please not, she talks way too much... its annoying and gives people headache. hope she can only talks about important matters.
@@user-hr9hg2eh5clol what? It's literally her job to talk
People might have different opinions, but from a professional commentator view, Shauna is definitely the best commentator (or co-commentator) we ever had.
@@user-hr9hg2eh5c It's a commentator's job to keep the flow of talk and not have any awkward periods of silence ...
@@user-hr9hg2eh5cyeah it's too much. I always end up muting these events lol.
What an intense finals!
toby absolutely dominated this comp! excited to see what he has in his future
Just a good hour in but I just want to share my fascination with watching climbing - even climbers I am not rooting for and are not up in the scores much bring so cool moves at times that you just stand in awe! 😯😃👍
Big congrats, Toby! Such a sweet moment with his dad. After all that pressure in Bern, I'm so glad to see him bounce back and bloom! Heart goes out to Adam for sure.
Thanks for the spoiler 😢
Stupid spoil
@@HahtaitaiLiterally nothing more annoying than people complaining about spoilers Here. People ALWAYS discuss the comp in the comments of IFSC streams. Just don't read the comments. Your own fault
@@climb518 I did not check the comments. top rated comment is shown directly under the video on the phone. To avoid the "big congrats Toby" I would need to partially blind myself. I watched it shortly after it was live, there is truly no reason to put this into the comments. Other comments simply write "big congrats to the winner", very easy.
@@Hahtaitai tbf that is my strategy, squint my eyes until I can go full screen
I didn't know half the climbers, I was very pleased to see all of their performances, outstanding work
Ohhh i am soooooo happy for toby 😭😭😭 really haaappy. Oh boy! I am really excited for the videoblog of this comp 😍
I love the commentry, both Matt and Shauna give great and insightful comments. I do wish thought that they would refrain from spoilers. Sometimes I can't watch the competitions live or in the right order and then they casually drop who had won the woman/man competition earlier on. :(
The commentary is brilliant and extremely entertaining!
The only way to make the ceremony even more cruel for second and third place, would have been to present them with a gift card for a eurosport+ subscription - or to wherever they stream the olympics. I mean, what were they thinking?
What a final🤯
Nice Flamingo Bar Adam🔥🔥
Sam dominating boulder in front of his home crowd, and 3:07:24
Why didn’t Adam get 3rd due to count backs? Didn’t Adam come out of Semi-finals higher ranked than Sam Avezou? They both scored a total of 132.9 so why didn’t the count back kick in? What did I not understand about this?
I have the same question
Also, on Adam's lead climb, the extended draw had a flipped rope side biner. On routes that are at the limit, him having to fix it before clipping could have cost him that extra move he needed at the top. I was so sad to see that happen at a top level comp. A failure of the belayers. They are supposed to check everything before the climber starts.
3:10:03 A figure-nine !! Dang! First time seeing a figure 9 on sport climbing!!
Kinda interesting that the commentators are also not familiar with figure-9 and commentating it figure-4.
Well spotted, I thought the same thing! It is quite rare in lead so that could explain it, but yes clearly a figure 9 (Same side leg over the arm, figure 4 is the opposite side leg over the arm).
5:19 Adam already chalking :D
2:12:23 is so clean how they do the moves similar 😂
Omg yes 🤯
Oh no vi venir la posible victoria de alberto... Lo amo! Estas competencias para clasificar a los olimpicos son tan difíciles de ver, por que ves la increible mejoria de todos y es doloroso ver que aun asi no triunfen.
Tremendo lo que escalaron!!!
You could feel the tension in the commentary box, Matt and Shawna truly delivering
That finish! Wow
A huge well done to Toby Roberts. Amazing performance and well deserves his place in next years Olympics. 👏👌
I'm up for Alberto but Toby.. that was a magnificent top out. Amazing athletes!
Albertooooooo!!!!! ✊🏼 Tendrás tu oportunidad.
Can anyone explain why Sam was in third place?? He and Adam had the same score. What’s the rule regarding same scores in this point format??
Inspiring stuff Toby!!!
No camera in iso. Come on. As a spectator I have no interest in intruding on the climbers in their moment of concentration. Not everything needs to be reality tv.
Impressive and beloved Oriane and very impressive Toby, congrats to both and thanks to Shauna's return
Superb!
What a finish 🎉
Can we get post analysis. Sounds like an absolutely amazing idea!
why is the camera always at the wrong angles?
Just show the basic front one all the time please
much better now 😊 🙏
Now, that's the way to close a final.
can we do only one climb at a time? :(
1:03:56 - i hear what i hear and i hear it.
Adam Ondra on MDMA :D best mood ever in competition probably
Wait what?
Why can’t they do a table with athletes on left and boulders as the column labels. Then we could see how everyone did in comparison on each boulder
i climb with glasses and i use ROKA, really hard to knock em off even when going for big moves
Incredible performance by Toby. Really incredible, was on my feet watching his lead climb. For most of the time Adam Ondra couldnt keep up with the top 5 this year, probably due to his focus on rock and also hitting the 30 years. But still a pleasure to watch his interesting solutions for different problems. Regarding setting: Men finals were partly worse than the women. M4 was a real nonsens. There is no way a setter or anyone else made the final move. Not even isolated from all the other moves. The problem wasnt weak climbers. Physics was the problem there.
Great final for this season. Cant wait to see the qualification events next year.
Stupid spoil
Jakob is older than Adam and still better in the comps
yeah i think Adam just struggles at comp. He's talked about it before not being his strong point@@jfro8723
Toby and his dad litterally made me cry
Sam and Adam got the same total score. Shouldn't Adam be ranked higher based on countback? Or do they factor in time on the lead wall into total score (which would make no sense in a combined format)?
I was also confused about this. The only thing I could think of was that Sam had a higher max score in one of the two disciplines. It's ifsc though so it's also possible the scoreboard was wrong..
I didn't read the rulebook but I think I remembered Tomoa mentioning in a video about Bern, that if he had made 1 more move in lead, that he would have had the same score as Colin Duffy, and that he would've been guaranteed an olympic ticket due to him having a higher bouldering score.
When there’s a tie it goes to prelim qualification score.
Love how AO is chalking up even during the observation & introductions 😂
Lead starts at 2:23:50
please please have both athletes on split screen simultaneously when both are climbing, like they did at asian qualifiers
Please add more info on the description including the commentators
Is there any video of the beta for the top on boulder number 4?
How come Sam Avezou was given 3rd place? He had the same score as Adam Ondra, but Adam qualified higher. I thought, in the event of a draw, it went to countback
Where can I watch the panamerican comp in santiago?
It's on youtube as well. Chanel is Panam Sports.
33:21 Sam Avezou est clairement au dessus avec cet enchaînement + finish, la relève !
once shauna really figures out to dial back some commentary, she’ll be perfect! love her insights
what a fukn beast
Why was Adam the 4th and Sam the 3rd, when they had the exact same amount of points?
43:13 - Just look at that right hand muscles. At first he looks skinny, but seems he is extremely strong.
3:06:11 when you stop it and look at the pic , why everyone except Adam has shoes ? :D
Spoiler: Janja Garnbret wins
🤯
She really needs to compete against the guys
Congratulations Toby! 🥇
Bad camera😢 cant see their feeds
I feel that the previous members of the podium should auto qualify to the olympics given that they are active in the year leading up to it. Maybe give them some minimum requirements for qualifying like top 3 at 2 world cup events in the year prior. Made that up off the top of my head but you get the point
Are there further options to be qualified for the olympics?
@@alexrahali5279I think there's still the Olympic Qualifier Series on Mar-Jun 2024. That's the last chance to get a ticket.
@@RaveMasterr thx mate
What gym grade is the lead route? Like 5.15+???
Good
on you Toby
2:36:28 Yanninck drops his glasses :S
Love shauna in the commentary Box. I Hope they make it a regular Thing :)
Can someone explain what Shauna is talking about when she says "because Oriane qualified here, another female French athlete can qualify next year". Does this in any way mean that only one male French athlete can qualify next year even if they have a quota for two?
I think what she meant is because France is the host, even if another of their athletes don't qualify through the Qualifier series, France still has a host country spot
Edit: there are still stipulations on rankings but France has really good climbers. For there to be two men, at least one must qualify through the series
It’s 2 per sex per country (maximum). So 2 women and 2 men per country maximum get to participate in the Olympics. Because France is the host nation, they have the advantage of putting someone else through even if they didn’t qualify through the system to make up their maximum quota.
@@lill8537 I guess my confusion was that Shauna made it seem like if a French athlete didn't win here, then only one of the two front runners would be guaranteed next year. But I guess she just meant it would be harder for two to qualify.
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Thank you for the commenting 😊
When can we watch Women's Finals?
Sam had some really great beta on that first boulder - kind of similar to Mika on the slab in semis. Everyone else was going for the final hold once they got the side-pull, pulling into and up the wall, but he was able to actually push a bit down and away from his foot to get more comfortable on the side-pull before statically reaching the top. It seems like that theme comes up a lot in bouldering - can you, within 4 or 5 minutes, both follow your years of climbing instincts and also not get trapped by the thought of needing to get directly to the next hold or up the wall. Super well-set move
War Toby! Also, I quite like the scoring system.
43:15. look at that forearm size.
2:36:30 yannic lost his glasses
1:03:56 - 20 fucking points
The commentators keep saying about the orange tension based crimping boulder as being "basic" and "old school", but reality is these proffesional atheletes are failing to complete it, and these competitions should be about diversity of skillset, not necessarily who is the most dynamic and "springy" boulderer. While no one would want to see every Boulder like this, as it would mean other types are missing, there is no reason this type shouldn't be in the mix and being supported when set if at an appropriate difficulty, to make sure the best all around boulderer is winning these competitions. If you can't complete this style and others can, well you just aren't "good enough" then!
Why is Yannick Flohe not at least using sports glasses which hug the face more tightly?
bc he wouldn't look as pretty
it's sad the competition was split in two boulder, less interresting and comfortable to follow
Wait these Events are not behind a paywall anymore?
I could do that
Doesn't Alberto qualify as olympic champion?
I absolutely hate that there are two boulders at the same time! I want to see and focus on each individual climber and boulder.
Why did Sam end up in front of adam even though they were tied in points and adam shouldve been ahead on countback?
Anyways, gotta be happy for toby lol he's just on another level of strength and endurance. Toby vs Sorato really resembling Jakob vs Adam in terms of extreme strength vs who tf knows how they're so good. As for Adam, honestly probably good for him to have to compete in OQS - obviously he's extremely experienced already but I feel like he just needs to get back into a relaxed competition mindset and this will be good practice for that.
alberto was not happy about that lol
Toby is the future!!!