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How I win my first 4-digit ELO game:
• The WORST Drawback
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#chess #ChessBut #drawback #enpassant
now you know how 100 rated player feels when they get hit with normal en passant.
"what just happened??????"
The absolutely tunnel vision on that second opponent.
Revelling his drawback helped him
For those who don't get it, the site allows you to castle your king even though the opponent can en passant, because there's a chance that the drawback of the opponent actually disallows them from taking the king
Yeah, I knew it the moment simp did it. I was like, yikes bro, you are about to learn the true power of en passant 😂
still a stupid rule though
I read the rule before, but was still surprised because en passant only applies to the in-between square, not the starting square. So I thought when King castled from e8 to c8, en passant was only available on d8, not e8
@@konuralpyldzkan1495 No, it's genius. This way checkmates are still effectively checkmates, but if the drawback prevents you from ending the game, it doesn't reveal it to the opponent.
@@konuralpyldzkan1495 I think it's great, the "you can't castle out of check or through check" rule of traditional chess going away feels sort of wrong...but because the opponent's restriction could prevent them from taking your king you're allowed to leave your king in danger (unlike normal chess where you can't end your turn with your king in check)...so it interprets that rule as being there "because your king could be taken if you try to castle out of danger or through danger", and allows your king to be taken "en passant" when you leave your king in danger by castling out of check or by castling through check.
Amazing. The second game became 100 times easier by revealing your drawback. That opponent is probably still kicking himself over that game.
in a previous vid someone already mentioned the king can get en passant. he just didnt see the comment
Here I am
In last video even!
he read a comment about it once but didn't believe it
I think I mentioned it. So maybe it was a lot of people. Either way, you most certainly can get en passant. You just can't in duck chess unless you are playing over the board and agree to it lol
I knew King can get en passanted, but I didn't know that included the original square. The King moved from e8 to c8, so I thought the only en passant square was d8. Yet the capture happened on e8 in the video.
Game 2 opponent's knight: I AM INVINCIBLE!
The king: That's great, but I'm not!
oh god just looked up about taking the king en passant. yeah so you can castle through check, but also en passant king capture.
I thought En Passant is a _Pawn_ move. Allowing any other piece to use it... nuts. Would just make it easier to say "you can't castle during, or through, check" like in regular chess so it doesn't mess people up like that.
He’s been warned about it before.
@@BananaWasTaken to be fair, I expected en passant to be when king moves THROUGH check while castling, not when he does castle while under check.
That still makes no sense, you can't en passant the square the piece started from, only the square it moved through.
So, if your opponent knows how it works, you shouldn't castle through check. Weird rule but I guess it works?
Simp freaking out about king en passant sounded exactly like a 500 rated player learning about regular en passant for the first time 😂
8:40 Worse than that, your opponent could play Bxf7 and you instantly lose.
That rook on f8: 👁 👄 👁
@@umuhyacinth6144 what’s your point? If rook takes Simp loses via his drawback.
after Kg2 Kg8 you shouldnt play bxf7 because you lose your king first.
@@MrDetectiv-uw8vc you play Bxf7 after Simp's queen move, because Simp then has to move his king and can only move it into check.
@@sparkyshore3543oh that? Now I see
The last drawback you got was actually kind of great. It's one of the few drawbacks that you can take steps to reduce the impact of, since you can move early to negate the effect.
Every time you reveal the challenge, I already expect the worst to happen lmao
3:54 "Your Castle can't save you, because *I CAN'T READ!"*
guess the king en passant kinda makes sense
The fact that you can't castle through checked tiles in ordinary chess pretty much demands that it work this way.
Moving to f8 on move 13 is actually way harder
Yeah, it read like if the opponent failed that they would have instantly lost.
This is why you read the rules
Meanwhile I did read the rules, but I thought that only applied to the middle square. King went from e8 to c8, so I thought en passant can only happen on the d8 square. Kind of like how when pawn goes from e7 to e5, you can't capture en passant on e7, but only on e6
@@danielhoang289eerrrm if you read the rules you would know it says both🤓
@@Waffles17643 Never said I was a good reader. Just that I did read the rules. Clearly I read it poorly
I cannot believe you have the audacity to have the Israel flag in your profile picture.
@@TheYeetedMeat I don't know how that's relevant to a chess video
Your opponent took your king
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3:55 you can actually see the red dot just as he moves his piece, meaning his king is still in danger
4:04 "Absolutely very convenient."
*23 seconds later, in regards to the same situation* "Very inconvenient."
4:06 *black king dies of heart attack*
It's not like they let you castle through checks and such to change the rules of the game, it is so that those mechanics are also affected by the drawbacks. It makes complete sense that he can en passant your king, when you castle through a check you're basically assuming that he has a drawback that prevents him from making the move.
By the way, this also happens when the attacker moves to one of the squares between the king and the rook. You can for example take the rook and the just-castled king in one move.
some info:
*The king can get captured en passant if you castle in check. If you castle in check, the opponent can win by moving the piece that was giving check. The game treats it as if the king hasn't moved.*
i dont know if this is correct for castling thru check
Also true for castling through check you can read the rule on the website
I'm the opposite. I knew King can be captured for en passant if castling thru check. But I didn't know about castling while already in check.
Since en passant normally refers to the "through" square, not the original square
Holy crap, it's not clickbait, they actually French Move'd your king. That's hilarious, this and Duck Chess are so much better than regular chess.
This drawback thing just reminded me of a movie called "Red Belt". In that movie, there's a jiu jitsu tournament in which some drawbacks are assorted to the fighters, like fighting blindfolded or without using a hand.
I had the same thing happen with me castling through check. I was very confused... but it makes sense...
Just because you are physicially allowed to doesn't mean he can't still capture (you can also move into checks, which is normally impossible, so...)
In drawback chess, if a king castles out of or through check, the opponent may immediately move a piece to either square to win the game
Dude fell for a scholar's mate 😮
chess, but actually 2D
bishops and queens cant move diagonally in between pieces, and knights can't jump over pieces
He only takes video suggestions on Discord.
"knights can't jump over pieces", doesn't really make sense on it's own, as there is not really a clearly defined path the knight takes for it's move. Rather there are 3 different "paths" a knight can take to do their moves (and that is without any diagonal movement, if you include that you get 5 different paths even), assuming I am not missing any, which is entirely possible. And that is ofc only considering direct routes... if you even go outside that the amount baloons to insane proportions. SO yeah you would have to define first how the a knight is moving exactly
@@GummieI A question that has stumped even the greatest minds in chess. "How does the knight move?"
@@GummieIone could use Chinese knight rules: one vertically/horizontally, then 1 diagonally.
@@GummieI ill leave that to chess simp
That first game, you can indeed move through check, just like you can move into one, but it doesn't guarantee safety
I think the reason king en passant happens is tied to the whole idea that you can't normally castle when in check.
I didn’t understand the French move with the king
In drawback chess, you have to capture the king to win, because it's possible that a checkmate is not really a checkmate when your drawback prevents you from actually taking the king. So, you are also allowed to move into check, gambling that maybe it's not really a check because your opponent can't take your king due to their drawback - but if they can and do, then you lose. Similarly, you're allowed to try to castle through check, gambling that it's not really castling through check because your opponent can't actually move to whatever square prevents castling due to their drawback. But if the opponent does move to that square, then you just lose.
@@peterhuston7888 thank you!
In ordinary chess you can't make a move that leads to the king getting captured. You also can't castle through checked tiles. Therefore, castling through checked tiles leads to the king getting captured.
I learnt about drawback chess because of you, thanks for teaching me
ChatGPT ahh checkmate
9:12 "I lost 25% of movement freedom" - how that? If you have to move something specific every 5 moves, you lose 20% movement freedom...
Its kind of weird to me that the en passant king capture takes on the square the king was imstead of the square the king moves through like with a standard pawn en passant
well regularly you wouldn't be able to castle out of check, I assume all those squares are fair game
I assume the intention is basically "I think your drawback prevents punishing this unsafe castle" - "nope you are dead"/"yeah it does" Basically a mechanic of calling a bluff because with challenges not every threat is real
No your king just got a heart attack
Stir crazy used to be even worse. You had to move the King at least every third move.
On the other hand, needing to move it every five moves sounds too easy. Even revealing it is barely an inconvenience, because you can choose when to move it.
4:07 Your king moved 2 squares to castle and since the queen was there the queen came and took the king en passant
4:18 Told ya :)
I think I remember someone else explaining how en passanting the King is possible, but I don't really remember
Basically, since the opponent's drawback means you might not actually be castling through or out of check, the game allows you to do so.
But if the drawback doesn't prevent said check, the opponent is then allowed to move to the square the king castled from or through to punish what turned out to be an illegal move.
Holy hell!
You cannot castle into check, out of check, or pass over a space where your king would be in check. You castled out of check, so since the site requires king capture to win, your opponent was able to capture.
4:05 bro got railgun’d
4:12 Holy hell
En passant check mate:
"en passant" is technically not the phrase they should've used, but it does make sense. Normally you can't castle out of or through check. Since drawback chess allows you to castle out of check (because the rule is to take a king, not to checkmate a king, since checkmates are too nebulous when drawbacks are unknown), doing so opens you up to your king being taken, whether it moved out of or through check.
If you castle through check, opponent can capture the King en passant
The castle rules exist in this game; if you castle and your opponent could have prevented it, his moving the piece to the affected square results in your loss.
I DID IT IN MY FIRST GAME OF DRAWBACK SOMEHOW AND I WAS SO CONFUSED
drawback chess, but dont reveal the drawback, instead choose a normal discord challenge that adds to drawback
You're late, I had to watch scientific things during lunch bcs of you >:(
😂
Truly these are the worst lunch break for us English people
I think the en passant is similar to how a normal one works where it prevents you from using a special move to escape a situation. Double move to create a passed pawn, but also now a castle to escape a check can be en passant. Weird how they dont tell you about it anywhere though
So the king *can* castle while checked, the same way you can make a move that leaves/puts you in check lmao
Yeah so you're allowed to castle under check, but only in the same way you're allowed to ignore a check.
I have been saying it should work this way
Google king passant
Holy monarchy!
Not reading the rules in the first episode doesn't seem like a good idea anymore, does it?
Despite it seeming like a weird rule, king en passant is probably there to make the game more like regular chess, despite checks not blocking a king's movement. Just like how a king can be taken if he enters check, a king can be taken if he castles through check, both of which are impossible in normal chess.
I wonder what if your drawback makes you lose the game in some conditions, but you capture the king in the moment you should lose, what it would be then? Win? Lose? Draw?
what advantage does revealing drawback to opponent give?
It makes for a better video
Well in the case of that second game, the opponent tunnel visioned hard after he learned his knights were invincible, costing him the game.
"Your opponent took your king en passant"
This is Green Lemon Game's fault, isn't it?
Maybe you should read the rules. If you castle out of a check you can still take the king, as you have seen... This is also true is you castle through an attack.
En passant king taken by queen?! WTF
Ah, yes, the traditional Shnauzzerain en passant with queen. An underutilized technique, but effective in the right circumstances. I'm surprised Simp didn't see it coming.
Challenge: u can only move your non pawn pieces when u have an even number of pawns.
I think that king french move is still broken. When you do it with pawns you take the square the pawn skipped not where it started
WHAT the HELL was EVEN THAT?!?!
Taking the king en passant makes sense in some ways but it's not entirely equivalent.
With pawns you can take en passant only with other pawns and not by moving to the square the pawn started in. The second point could be negated if the king was considered to move after the rook, but with the computer chess UI that would be false, since you castle by moving the king which should mean it's moved first.
yeah this is why It doesnt make sense to me. But we can assume its just a visual thing. and the rook will move first. seems more balanced.
I came on here 30 seconds after Simp posted :D
1300 rated drawback chess: 66% win rate.
Took me a sec to understand the en passant.
chess, but your Queen is very old fashioned and can move only with the ancient rules (diagonally, only one square at time). (also, your pawns can only move one square at a time)
So I take it that the en passant thing is just some spaghetti code and isn't actually possible irl?
In normal chess, you cannot castle through, into, or while in check. Since checks don’t really exist in drawback chess, king en passant was introduced as an alternative.
This is my favorite Simp format by far! More!
funnily enough there was actually a comment i saw on one of your last videos about that en passant
8:34 IS THAT A JOJO REFRERNCE?????????????
Why do you reveal your drawbacks to opponents?
Holy shit que en passant just dropped
How do you get losing 25% of movement freedom? If you have to move your king every 5 moves, isn't that 20%?
Video 198 of asking simp to play fps chess
apparently en passant exists for every piece
How was that en passant?
According to Google, "The rules of Drawback Chess specifically mention this: "If your king castles out of or through check, then on your opponent's next move, it can be captured by playing any move to the square it left or moved through (i.e. its home square and where the rook lands)." (Reddit)
@@dd0buzzacc989yep, this happened to me too, and it's a stupid rule
You're allowed to take a king who just castled through check, and Drawback chess calls it 'en passant' for the memes
@@That_One_Kobold You can't castle out of check in normal, so this exists here.
@@That_One_KoboldDon't blame it on drawback chess, blame it on chess rules.
What no. You can't invoke en passant on a queen against castling!
Damn if only the rules were read
dafuq is the point of being able to castle out of check if they can still capture? xd
From the website's how to play: "Kings may be captured en passant. If your king castles out of or through check, then on your opponent's next move, it can be captured by playing any move to the square it left or moved through (i.e. its home square and where the rook lands)."
Maybe next time read the rules dummy
Hey guys I am just coming across videos that I can hear is narrated by that AI-ish voice. Does anyone know where it is sourced, or what it is called. I want to use this voice for some of my videos but I cannot find :((((
POV there was a red circle 🔴 oh c8, me thinks he gonna play Kd8, and there is literally a - notation (O-O-O-) and bro calls it black magic. It's just like how you cannot castle out of check.
~ ANTI SBOILER BARRIER ~
What
I told it to give me a rating of 2000 and I won, so now I am 2054 and idk what to do because I'm terrible at chess ._.
Bro, we literally commented to warn you about losing your king en passant.
Why do you reveal your drawbacks???
If i ever knowingly played chess simp I'd be terrified by me "I played drawback chess professionally before it existed"
Of course I'm not 100 rated so with invincible knights I'll just, not get scholars mated...
Spoilers:
After review, Simp was just being a fool and paid the price. But the fact that Castling was legal at 3:53, albeit subject to _en passant_ , meant that the following sequence was _also_ legal at that point: Kd8 Qe8+ Qxe8+.
Whether the chess engines will let a player start in check, I don't know. So, there is no IBTMY today.
Google en passant
If I understand the drawback correctly, that last queen capture/check would have been even way more devastating than just losing your queen. Bxf7, leaving his own king in check, would force your king to move to g8, letting him get your king.
Wins 2 out of 3 games = 66.6%. Simp: “As always, 100% win rate.” Simp clearly works in Government Policy Dept somewhere-probably Taxation…😂
Should have googled it
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some dude def lose and make that up