WSV: Orca VS Great White: Like a cat with a mouse
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- čas přidán 24. 10. 2014
- Mick Menigoz is the only person to witness two orca / white shark interactions. In this video he describes one of them in detail.
I highly recommend my new video examining the more recent orca / white shark interactions
• Orca VS. Great White: ...
Many people are commenting about the lack of footage. It is indeed a shame. All I can say is that things were very different only a few decades ago...it was somewhat rare for people to have video cameras and if they did they were the large VHS or 8MM ones. Social media and CZcams didn't exist. You just enjoyed the experience and didn't plan on documenting every moment of your life. Now everyone has a 4K camera in their pocket so it is hard to relate to earlier days.
White sharks are very elusive at the Farallon Islands. I worked an entire season on a shark cage boat and have returned many times since then and have only glimpsed seconds worth of a white shark, and even that was just dorsal fins or bloody thrashing of water at the surface. Mary Jane Schram got a little bit of this interaction on camera, but somehow Nat Geo convinced her to give it to them exclusively, and even that was nothing but white water thrashing.
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The Orca kept coming back for 20 mins with the shark in the mouth. This guy or his crew had cameras but did not take a single shot actually showing it. Give this guy a medal
They should have thrown the Captain overboard for that! 😁
Maybe that's the reason the Ocra kept coming back for a photo snap...
Could the Orca be trying to bait the captain?
Definitely deserves a medal! :)
Hes just a liar obvious!!!
I worked with a young bloke who used to be a wilderness sea kayaking guide in the bay of islands in NZ, he to,d me once that half an hour into guiding some tourists on a five day paddle a whopping great orca breached in the middle of them leaping right up into the air with a huge great white in its jaws! Dumbfounded I asked him what his reaction was and with a smile he told me it kind of annoyed him, when I asked him why he shrugged and said we were only half an hour into the first day of the trip now the tourists were going to expect stuff like that to happen for the next 5 days!
HAHA!
Perhaps it would have been a more exciting trip for the NZ tourists if the Orca that breached leaping right up into the air with a great white in its jaws landed dead center on the middle of the Kayak! Now that's entertainment! 😁
I find this hard not to believe.....those orcas have that ability and then some....no doubt...jaws fears willy.
Laughing.
I was trapped in new zealand,, next door to Dow in Paritutu for 7 yrs. I warn people about what a cancerous night mare that country is everyday
I'm so intrigued by Orcas. They play and socialize with humans, but then slay absolutely everything else they encounter. It's an amazing relationship we have with them. Quite a mystery.
Game recognizes game. Deadliest thing in the ocean respects the deadliest thing on the planet.
I would agree, Unless you work at SeaWorld.
Wait till they run out of sea lion, great white etc.
There has been no documented orca attack, but what if it's because if they attack nobody will be left to document it? Even if they seem friendly i wouldn't dare swim with something that kills great whites
Well they have realized that Orcas actually do target great whites, and they do it for a nutritional reason. They eat the shark livers, which are extremely high in nutrition for them. They've been noticing lots of dead liverless sharks and orcas are the culprits. Which personally I'm ok with. An orca has never once attacked a human outside of captivity, they are insanely intelligent, and quite literally over powered as hell. Plus they look awesome.
Its kinda insane when you think about it, the orca gets very strategic when hunting sharks. They instinctly know sharks go catatonic when flipped upside down, and they are extremely precise in their attack on the sharks liver. All of this coming from the worlds largest dolphin.
Some orcas have learned they can put a shark into paralysis by flipping it over making the kill easy.
Correct. They usually don't eat the carcasses because they contain far too much uric acid. But the fats and chemicals in the liver are superfood for orcas...
@@patrickleblanc613 It’s not instinctive, and not all killer whales do it. It’s just a few populations, and they had to learn the behavior.
@@merchants393 Uric acid doesn’t really build up in sharks until well after they’re dead. Makos and Porbeagles-the closest relatives of the great white-are excellent to eat, so it stands to reason that white shark tastes similar. Killer whales also eat more of smaller sharks, but not the whites. I suspect the real reason they don’t eat more of white sharks is that they can’t...or at least not without a lot of trouble. The underbelly of sharks is pretty soft, but the back and sides are like armor. Killer whales have pretty blunt teeth compared to sharks, and they only get one set. Killer whale populations that eat a lot of sharks have been found to have high levels of tooth wear from shark skin, so it stands to reason they don’t want to incur any more damage to their teeth than they have to. Killer whales are also known to be wasteful eaters. They’ll kill a whale calf and only eat the tongue.
If this event lasted 20 minutes, how is it that no one filmed it? His story is great- learned a good bit in just a couple minutes, but I'm bummed I didn't get to see it
1997. Very few ppl kept actual camcorders on them. Those things were huge and had like 2hrs of battery.
Noone had readily available cameras then like we do now ;)
No camera?
@@Lantern_Larry I was married in 1995, our wedding video camera was state of the art! It was VHS, weighed about 10 pounds and was about 7 inches by 9 inches by 15 inches. Not real conducive to portability lol
@@obviousness8113 I cant help to imagine the days when it took a guy behind a blast sheild setting off a small bomb to take one photo.
It is a well known phenomenon in South Africa at least, that orcas eat great white livers. In fact, the orcas can drive great white populations away when they are too aggressively hunted.
I responded to a post stating that 1997 was the first documented case of Orcas killing white sharks. While I don't dispute it, I read a book published in the 70's where the biologist describes such incidents occurring. He even talks about a group of dolphins doing the same.
@@gtd9536 yep I got a book from the book fair that told that story about dolphins
Hi Paul vR, what you are saying is true,it happened here in South Australia a couple of years ago.A pod of Orcas turned up at a place here where they do cage diving and a lot of research on GWs ,not long after they showed in the area the GWs disappeared .The Orcas have long gone now and the Sharks are back,but yeah ,it was a case of them fleeing the area until it was safe to go back
I believe it was the same orca vs whale attack the others are describing in 1997 in California, but the scientists said after the whale killed the Great White, all the Great Whites in the area fled- one that was tagged made a straight beeline for Hawaii
Yep, I have seen a TV documentary showing this.
Stunning footage that I will never forget. Wow, just wow. Big congratulations to the camera person!
A video of a guy telling a story. Simply amazing.
Human: Orca would never kill a white shark
Orca: Hold my sea lion
Lol.
Lol
Wilmette Entwistle "Orca would never kill a white shark" ?? strange thing to say ...Orca kill white sharks and eat the liver as it is a rich source of nutrients for their diet, it is well documented.
sarah jones ... An Alta-sea director lecturer, said ‘ they pop them open like a bag of chips and let the buoyant livers float out’. We have a 4 pod visit every year in April in our Florence Oregon river, chasing sea lions trapped up our river hunting fish. Every year. Super smart apex’s.
@@sarahjones-jf4pr yes, they will bite out the liver while the shark is still alive, orcas are the apex predator of the oceans. Great whites don't stand a chance.
Why no pictures of the Orca holding the shark?
@Dre Woke
czcams.com/video/b7BeO0jlRV4/video.html
At 0:30 you can see it momentarily.
Because when he made to record with his digital mobile phone he remembered "damn, it is 1997, phones with cameras will not be a thing until 12 years later!"
He thought the sea lion was the great white😁😁😁
They took it back on land, and the Orca even posed with a trophy 🏆 he was awarded!! 👍👍😎✌
Because it never happened.
Do you even know how big Great whites are ?
Cool story bro. In this day and age, when someone comes across an amazing incident that lasts “20 minutes” and he DOESN’T have any video footage, I smell embellishment.
It is commonly known that Orcas kill Great White Sharks and eat the liver. The story isn't far-fetched or hard to believe at all. It is disappointing that THIS video doesn't show actual footage, but there is plenty of actual footage to see if you look for it.
Haha because air nowadays mostly consists of skepticism
A video camera in 1997 cost $1200. This was a whale watching tour, not a scientific trip.
@@SteveF1967 ok boomer
@@madisonbrown8851 you're special you leave the house with your helmet on? This shit happened in 97 he's right nobody carried that shit with them then. Children these days
This was a good reminder a good story teller can show more then a video can sometimes. Awesome vid!
I reckon the orca could've killed the sea lion as bait for the shark. They are absolutely amazing!!
Saw a video on orcas just a couple weeks ago showing them do something similar. Video showed one in captivity using the fish it was fed by trainers to teach birds to come close to the edge of the pool. It would toss fish farther out for the birds then gradually toss them closer. The orca would show it's head out of the water and act playful and happy with the birds. Until one bird got brave enough to go after a fish right at the edge by the orca and the orca snatches it and eats it.
Amazing, yet slightly terrifying at the same time. Lol!
Edit: If want to see the video, I put the link below. The part about the birds starts at 10:39. It's in russian with english subtitles, but the video is one of the best I've seen on orcas and how they hunt.
czcams.com/video/kYXYpAd42UA/video.html
@@howard7997 I also watched this clip recently. Their intelligence is awe inspiring.
@@Aaron_Hanson they are, though after seeing how it did the birds, I think I wouldn't go close to the water edge with one. 😂
I bet thats exactly what happened. Orca setup the great white
They were teaching the young how to fish for shark
20 mins? And I don't any pictures of the shark in orcas jaws .
Wow, this was exciting, I enjoyed every second of it
Correction It's the simplest of fact, two real time foe's and just two enemies showing their dominance. Massive attempts by the Ocra is all about the Orcas' taste for shark's particular anotomy as food. That particular anotomy according to a science programme I watched before concluded that the Ocras' appetite circled around a delicate sharks' body organ an anotomy in which it regulates these sharks' buoyancy. The body organ function is located below the shark if I remember correctly. I'm trying to remember the organs name off my head. The tossing of the carcass phenomena by which the sharkplay urge to "unintentionally " uhm show off ( laughter) uhm... excuse me... to this human is quite an understatement. The Ocras are spreading the scent around for others to detect. These two are common mortal enemies to a point where these sharks were known to disappear quickly away from the area just out of fear. The smell of the death scent can be detected by most sharks a no brainer to any of the adult sharks having plenty of experience and having one of the best senses for detecting any smell.
I believe ur talking about the sharks liver!
It seems that Orcas know we're impressed by them. The scariest thing about Orcas are their intelligence.
I read there has never been a documented incident of an okra attacking a human in the wild, wants to remind me of the first contacts with native peoples the world over with so called civilised races. They capture enslave (seaworld) and expect the slaves to work to enrich them.
@@graybeard9942 they’re more so curious of us humans. Very very intelligent animals
@@graybeard9942 The Okras are a sub species though
@@bertplank8011 🤣🤣🤣 you are correct mine grow on trees and are used when steaming seafood.
Eh. IMO, their intelligence actually makes them less scary to me. Pretty sure they don’t attack us in the wild precisely because they are very smart, social animals who pass things on from generation to generation…. So they’re very very aware of how dangerous humans as a species can be, how we react with extreme violence to creatures that start hunting humans, and they’ve generally decided that they don’t want to provoke a violent response from us. They may also remember when we used to hunt the great whales, and how terrifyingly effective we were at it.
Sometimes an animal being much smarter actually makes them much less likely to attack us.
That guy is a witness to this incident that took place in the Farallon Islands 25 miles off the coast of San Francisco in October 1997. That was the first documented predation of an Orca on a white shark. Many whale watchers witnessed it as well.
Thanks for that fact. I'm not trying to argue with you but, ... I had read a non-fiction biology book published in the 70's where a biologist recounts having witnessed a orcas killing white sharks, and even crowd of dolphins doing the same. I read the book in the 80's so I thought this phenomena was already registered but not widely known. If I can find the book title, I'll post it for you.
@@gtd9536 yes I read it too, it was in the book of Jacques Yves Cousteau who mentioned a similar incident between an orca and great white, however, it was not videotaped that’s what I meant by “documented”. I believe orcas have hunted white shark since their existence, but only recently it was witnessed in the 70s by Cousteau and videotaped in 1997. Scientists used to believe those two apex predators would avoid each other.
And nobody thought to break out the camera???
@@The_Tiffster Or Chisels and stone tablets
@@The_Tiffster My thoughts exactly. They had twenty minutes and multiple occasions to do it. The were out there researching but didn't have a camera easily available?
This is an AWESOME video of a guy describing something. I'm so glad no one thought to get any of it on tape during that 20 minutes, because then we'd have to rely on our eyes to see it. Much better to see stuff with our ears.
Believe it or not, but camera phones haven't been around forever. There's probably a disposable camera photo of the event somewhere, but the captain telling the story probably didn't care about capturing the event on a camera because he's out there all the time.
Believe it or not, my comment didn't mention camera phones, and believe it or not, everyday people being able to film things predated the iPhone. Video cameras have been commonly owned for the better part of 40 years, and whale-watching trips would make all the sense in the world to bring one for each time in case something unusual happens.
@@jakemoore1218 yeah for the passengers. Not the captain (the guy being interviewed).
You should shut up now so i can watch this video
@@JP-jd5vz shut up sticky toe boy unless you want me to get 2 tuff tony on your behind buddy
Gives you an idea how powerful these beautiful, yet deadly hunters are! Actually had a chance to pet a Orca in Canada at Marineland, they are extremely intelligent and if you saw the teeth on them, then you know how deadly they can be, few of their back row teeth are bigger than my fist! If that clamps down on you, YOU’RE HISTORY!!! Plus they can generate speeds nearly 40 mph in short bursts, that much whale coming at that speed will wipe out anything smaller than them in a heartbeat! So it’s no wonder that a great white was tunafish to them!
Until I saw "Blackfish" I had no idea how amazing Orca are. Smart enough to communicate with each other, hunt in packs, and even hold grudges for decades.
I get the sense that no matter how staggeringly intelligent we see them as being,
We are still underestimating them.
The weight of an adult human brain is around 1.4kg compared to an Orca's at around 5kg - there's the potential for a huge amount of computing power in there 🙂
@@freeman6147 they also have an absurdly sophisticated social order within their packs; much more complex than the "alpha" model that wolves & other pack hunters follow. furthermore, they exhibit distict differences in hunting, dietary, reproductive, and parenting behaviors that we desribe as "cultural" when we describe such variations in humans.
@@col8353 it's generally accepted by ALL biologists, zoologist, and anthropologists that size of brain does NOT = smarter in all cases, but enough to bet that way. also, species matters. a 5kg reptile brain? maybe smart, maybe not. 5 kg MAMMAL brain?! that is something entirely different.
@@col8353 Obviously size matters. Nature is extremely efficient - a large brain would not exist without use.
Secondly, your analogy with computers is limited. Multiple small computers will have greater computing power than one. And one smaller computer scaled up would have greater computing potential than the original.
Since Turing computers have been made exponentially more efficient in a matter of decades. Nature on the other hand has had a far, far larger amount of time to perfect its creations. Even our puny-sized human brains cannot be fully matched by existing technology/ So, just imagine the potential ability of those Orca brains! -Possibly it is beyond our comprehension.
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"The Orca kept doing that for 20 minutes! Almost enough time for us to take a picture! Almost..."
It would have been nice to see a video of this, and the crew cheering on the orca every time it came back up with the shark.
Dear God, without footage this guy could claim anything. Thank you for wasting my megabytes.
I've heard that Orcas like shark liver...I don't know if it's true though...
Yes it's true. White sharks store most of their energy in their livers, it's part of the reason they can power those fast bursts of speed in cold water (they're warm blooded) so I'm guessing the Orca loves all that good calorie rich food there? But I've heard an orca will hunt a white shark and just eat the liver.
With fava beans, and a nice chianti
@@joeyboedeker7205 😂
Yes that's true and in addition to that, the Orcas are like freaking surgeons in the removal of shark livers, very precise.
An Orca told me that also!
I once caught a White Shark on a fishing line off the coast of Washington state and that shark was quickly eaten by an Orca. With all the force from the Orca swimming away, I was pulled into the water, and then down under water. I did not resurface until we reached Alaska. I was very tired but still managed to have ten beers at a local bar, where I first told this whale of a tale.
Cody McBragg
Great grandson of Commander McBragg
Thank you Mr. McBragg, Masterfully told.
I'm calling bull$h!t... on anyone who dares question this amazing Tale Of Wonder! 🐋🐳🎣
Those beers came AFTER you went fishing right?
I remember Commander McBragg. He can do anything, in his world he's a king. Or say says the brags of McBragg. Or something like that. Thanks for the memory.
Thank you for your surface Commander!
I like how the observer leaves himself out of the assessment. The orca noticed the observer and was probably showing off it's hunting skills
A very decent description of the event... but _where is your _*_video,_*_ MIck?!!!_
I don’t understand how a bunch of biologists didn’t capture this on camera. Especially how this encounter is extremely rare..
Yea, talks over and over about it while showing slides of Orcas not doing anything he was saying.................SMH
Too busy observing and witnessing it?
Don’t gotta whip your camera out for everything
Because this is fake news, lol!! Had this actually happened, someone on that boat would have gotten some video of it, but this is nothing but a fairytale, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly. What a fish story.
It’s actually because this happened in 1997 when people didn’t just carry cameras around with them all the time, especially not on boats in the open ocean where they can be easily damaged, but you know. Fill up CZcams with thousands of unnecessary emojis all you want.
The Orcas had shark liver pate for their next course.
When the hell was this that it wasn’t caught on 4K? That would’ve been amazing
The Orca overheard your conversation and said oh yea, watch me. Lol
So, let me get this straight. The Orca came up twice with the great white in its mouth and nobody got a decent picture?
🤣👍🏻 YEP 🙄
Apparently orcas can develop a craving for the shark liver. I have no idea what might be the source of such a craving, but I'd guess it might have something to do with maintaining a specific nutritional need. Second guess is that they may simply like the taste, since they have olfaction. As far as above surface presenting of its kill, maybe the open air exposure of the kill helps with olfaction. It's sometimes nice to savor the smell of something that has good flavor, and water may interfere with that.
a lovely and reasoned argument.
I'm inclined to believe that it's a territorial display by one apex predator to another (humans)
Orca, baits, hunts and kills domestic apex predator (great white)
Orca displays kill multiple times to tourists as if to say
"You keep to your side of horizon and we'll keep to ours."
but once they figure out how tasty our livers are and how easy to get...
Liver=Iron. ( nutitional). But prolly more territorial as food sources dwindle in ocean.
Very interesting coment ,,,,Whats sort for i learned something? I LS 🙏🐬🏴☠️♾
I wonder if he ate the liver with a FINE CIANTI(Red Wine)?
🤔
You’re thinking like a land lubber, smelling the air. These guys, taste the water.
To EVERYONE requesting the footage:
Please be patient, the production of mentioned aquae mannequins has been delayed because of the pandemic. But the filming will be starting soon and Steven Spielberg will personally do it.
So be on the lookout for Jaws 101.
Maybe there was a calf out there somewhere and the Orca was just protecting the young ?
I have seen footage of people cage diving with whites and all of a sudden the sharks ( all of them ) dived and swam off - few minutes later an Orca arrived on the scene . The fact that there were a couple of big sharks there didn’t seem to bother the Orca and the Sharks knew better than to take it on .
Orcas are incredibly intelligent well adapted predators of the sea
There is a process in a lot of fish called tonic immobility, where if turned on their back they become somewhat paralyzed. Orcas are very intelligent and there have been cases of them doing this to great whites. Even to the extent of pushing them out of breeding grounds. This is most likely what happened when the orca attacked the great white. At which point it was easy prey.
Yes, they do that and then they eat the sharks liver.
They also squeeze the liver out like toothpaste on the Cali coast
I've observed the process with my wife. If I'm lucky enough to get her on her back, she becomes completely immobile.
@@ABC-yt1nq lol
@@ABC-yt1nq Hope not taking advantage
Wish there was a vid to document that
Reminds me of bass fishing. We weren’t catchin so we amused ourselves watching a squirrel going on a log into the pond after a hickory nut. As soon as he picked up the nut, a huge bass took down the squirrel. We were searching through our tacklebox for a lure we could use to catch a bass, when the bass nudged another hickory nut on the log.
Watching orcas hunting other whales is pretty brutal. I’m really glad they don’t prey on humans.
An orca preying on a human is as absurd as a lion preying on a shark.
...yet
My uncle was brutally killed and eaten by an Orca after it capsized his boat. The only thing they found was part of his foot. Those Satanic fish ate everything else.
@@spidermancereal I used to think about my life "exit strategy" for when I get a bit older. Don't want to be forgotten in a nursing home for 10 miserable years with a dirty diaper & zonked out on heavy meds. So my plan was to go surfing whenever great whites are on the prowl. Then I found out sharks don't really like human meat, so that was depressing. Polar bears are kinda far from where I'm at, so that's wasn't a great plan either. Now I have a new plan. Thanks. I definitely don't just want to just get mauled. Nothing left but a foot would be perfect. Just enough proof to let people know I'm actually gone without having to mess with expensive remains. Just identify my footprint and throw the foot back into the ocean. Or toss it onto a fire ant bed. The meat will be gone in no time.
@@spidermancereal An orca is not a fish, it's a mammal. Hence the intelligent behavior. May your uncle rest in peace.
The amount of video content about animal behavior, both planned (research) and unplanned (random witnesses with cell phone camera) is really opening our eyes about how much sentient activity there is in most creatures. Amazing.
That’s for sure-from some weird and interesting thing some squirrel did in your back yard, to this.
It really isn’t true sentience though. It’s just imparting our consciousness traits on beasts.
@@commissary4196 That is absolute nonsense. We have video evidence of dogs and even cats actively creating sentences using sound buttons. We have video evidence of a person dropping a phone into the water, and a whale returning it to them. There are at least two videos of that occurring on two separate occasions with two separate individual whales. We have video evidence of the child that fell into a gorilla enclosure, being protected by the Silverback. Let alone the Gorilla who could communicate fully in sign language. We have video evidence of even fish and eels actively making friends with divers. We have video evidence of monkeys learning to ride bikes of their own accord, and conducting war on dogs in India. That's on top of the historical stories we know about, such as the Bear who was recruited into the Russian Army who would carry the munitions to the soldiers, and engage in drinking parties with them, or Jumbo the Elephant, who was in such pain with toothache, that he would regularly destroy his enclosure at London Zoo in the Victorian era in pain induced rage, yet never once took his anger out on the visitors, or the children who rode on his back. Or the chimps in the early part of the twentieth century, who were fully raised as humans, and then ended their lives in misery - some of them through self harm, when do-gooders took them away from their families and put them back into cages. You've never seen an Elephant herd rush into battle with predators in order to protect a child. Sure, consciousness may look different the further down the evolutionary ladder you go, none of us can truly understand how a hive mind works and no one is going to expect to be able to train a cobra like a dog, but the consciousness of humans arose out of the consciousness of animals - specifically mammals and so it is entirely appropriate to see us in them, because we are in them and we are from them and it is entirely possible to see that if dolphins or dogs or monkeys were to evolve down a similar line that apes did, that a society similar to humans might at some point emerge, albeit with all the bloodshed inherent in dragging a species out of primitivity towards a moral code. Something which took us tens of thousands of years and which we still have yet to perfect.
@ commissary your statement is dumb. Have you ever seen a crow use a tool? Or watched an Elephant mourn its dead young? All animals are sentient and intelligent, If you don’t think so, please try and survive in some of the habitats that these animals thrive in. I bet all of my money that a desert mouse can live longer in the Mojave than you can.
@@thedirectorschair1054 Presenting a dog with buttons to push isn’t consciousness. Your mind is warped into thinking animals are capable due to evolution theory which is unfalsifiable. Therefore not science and more of a worldview.
Look, I love this type of content, but I'm that guy in the room that's gonna ask..."why in 20 minutes have they not taken a single photo of the Orca showing the shark?" It's 2022. Everyone on that boat had a camera and you know it.
And not a single biologist thought to film or take pictures. A bunch of geniuses.
I genuinely don’t understand why orca’s specifically don’t kill us in the wild it seems so weird that they let us be
The smart animals typically dont hunt humans. They know we're not as fatty a meal as seals, sea lions and sharks. One of the reasons why they don't even bother with us.
They can sense what we are and we not on their food list
My totally unscientific theory is that Orcas, being smart, are quite aware that Humans rule the world with their technologies and hence by not engaging us they hope to not become targets of us. I also believe this wisdom is transferred from generations to generations. Perhaps they also see us as the most advanced mammals and they somehow respect this fact.
I have trouble believing in the 'Humans are not fatty enough for them" argument. Every animal goes hungry from time to time in nature and shouldn't act to pitty, attacks should have happened more often.
@@tufikum2633 Humans probably used to hunt them for food so they probably know what we’re capable of.
@@tufikum2633 We're strange looking because we swim vertically, as opposed to horizontally, like all other fish. Plus, we're too bony to eat, in comparison with their much fatter prey.
Maybe they showed it to people on the boat to show them we can protect you or whatever. Orcas are so smart and social. This showing the dead shark to the people must mean something in my opinion.
Pretty sure it was just territorial behavior over their kill and hunting ground in that moment. For all we know, the Orcas brought the white carcass over to say "don't f*ck with our kill, hooman. This is our territory and you will respect it."
@@chrismagnussen4304 Orcas are no lions or wolves. I never heard of this behavior before and I disagree. That's not their way of treating humans.
@@horse-lover68 I agree, they are not lions or wolves. That being said, they can still be territorial over their kills- they demonstrated this by killing the White that approached their kill. I believe it is less of a stretch to think that they extended this action to other creatures that were in the area than to assume altruistic motives on their part around protecting humans from Great Whites.
@@chrismagnussen4304 Do you know much about orcas or whales?? Did you study them?? Orcas are often trying to make contact with humans, it doesn't matter in which territory. They are only territorial and aggressive in Sea World and other animal abusing Zoo's.
@@horse-lover68 well I’m certainly no marine biologist, and I am aware that there are no recorded acts of predation by orcas against humans. I’m also aware of their incredible intelligence and general peaceful nature towards humans (outside of captive situations as you pointed out).
I’m just trying to give deference to animals who are in feeding situations who have already shown aggression towards incursions on their kills.
Right next to the boat but no one got a photo of it.
What a truly awesome thing to witness
The Orcas went after the white shark when there was other food in the water because it PRFERS shark liver over fish scraps…
@:59 you see the orca roll over. They orcas have learned that when you turn a shark upside down the shark is immobilized and helpless. The shark is very easy to dispatch at that point and no match for an orca. They eat liver of the shark. The sharks all left the Farallons after that. The true top predator of the ocean.
Tonic Immobility. Biologists even hypothesize that this could be a learned behavior passed down from generation to generation.
I once saw two Great Whites playing tug of war with a live Orca. I took a long video of it too. I keep meaning to post it.
Great description, I almost saw it.
I am wondering why the thing that amazed him the most was the motivation the orcas had for killing the shark. What amazed me the most was that they chose him - a human - to show off their deed. Were they bragging, looking for amazement? Or fear, looking for respect? I would have been fine giving both simultaneously.
Straight flexing. They are highly intelligent
@@mattrusso4617
Agreed. We forget that mammals that swim instead of walk are still as highly evolved as the land mammals. And orca are the apex predator.
@@julieenslow5915 And orca is in fact the only apex predator on Earth, no other meets all the conditions.
@@kilyannn
Boy, biologists will be shocked to learn there is only one apex predator on Earth and it is in the ocean! Where did you get that information?
@@julieenslow5915 Logic, dear girl. Find the definition of a.p. and try to think it over if you are able to.
When I was a kid I use to confuse Orcas with Okras. I'm glad that's over.
Canuck!
@@aceracer7408 that's me! Awsome country, shitty government
God that must have been incredible to experience tho
BEST "Big" fish story EVER !!!! Totally believable. You look honest. Who needs a camera ??
Or had the orcas connected with your thoughts about orcas vs sharks to answer your question?
You have to remember that orca’s are extremely intelligent. They were intentionally showing the humans the great white so that they can know that the white wasn’t a danger to them. Similar to other stories of people encountering other marine mammals who exhibit weird behaviors towards humans when sharks are nearby.
My guess is at some point in history a great white(s) may have attacked humans for some reason or another.
And these mammals are just telling us to either be careful, run or I took care of him for you….imo
Orcas are smart enough to actually have overheard other orcas speaking of humans being fun/kind to them.
So when they eventually run into humans themselves, they might kill sharks that get too close to the "human friend".
They are somewhere between labradors and little children when it comes to language skills, and I have no doubt in them being able to retell simple stories or facts to their friends and family.
Orcas and Whales are also extremely empathic communicators, - which probably has to do with making up for their restrictive body-shape.
Cool story, just needs some wizards and dragons.
You're speculating. You don't know that. Did one of them tell you that?
It was revenge for Shamu and a lot of other things and there was nothing we could do about it. Orcas are mammals and sharks aren’t. It was among the whales, it was real free Willy sh1t. 😛
It's a wild animal bro it doesn't give 2 shits about you or me.Its just showing of its trophie. Do u really think they care about HUMANS? They kill other baby Whales of other whalespecies sometimes even just for the fun of it.
That's a once in a lifetime type event, I wish I could've been there
So did he
@@TheBear470 next time we'll see him on a different channel talking about how the orca killed 2 great whites and stopped a purse snatcher.
I once saw a giant radiation lizard and a massive gorilla battle a colossal mechanical radiation lizard in the middle of Hong Kong. It was ok, but frustratingly, nobody was able to film it.
😂😂
The orcas are just incredible in many ways. The more I learn about them, the more I’m impressed and dumbfounded.
They are as smart as any cat or dog, and that's really saying something.
Click-Bait if WE CANT SEE IT !! THIS IS U-TUBE NOT LISTEN TUBE
Just a thought. They kept showing the humans the shark specifically. Maybe they were either a) seeing the humans as a threat and saying here, better not mess with me. Or b) saying, it’s ok humans, look it’s safe now, I got the threat. I know, both a little bit more complex than we could tell for sure. But I imagine if it saw the humans as irrelevant it wouldn’t be swimming up to them showing that the shark was dead. And normally I’d probably go with choice (a). Except it doesn’t sound like orcas in this area are too fearful of humans, there’s no orca hunting or anything. And orcas have been seen being curious and “friendly” towards humans in areas where they see them more often, especially in areas that have a lot of sea tours. So I’m actually leaning more towards (b). Which is crazy. But we’ve seen the same type of interest from other “dolphins” in areas with a lot of sea tours. So I don’t think it’s that outlandish. Would an orca eat a human that fell from a boat? I’m not sure really, have not heard too many stories of this happening except when the orca felt at threat from the humans, especially a hundred plus years back when humans regularly did hunt more often. And I wouldn’t want to find out first hand lol. But it really sounds plausible the orca was policing the waters and telling the humans “it’s safe now”.
Is the boat/crew known to the orcas? Were the orcas simply bragging/presenting the crew with a food option as this chap suggests? In any case, extraordinary!
Was hoping to see the actual video of the incident described. “You do have dinosaurs… on your dinosaur tour, right?”
What a spectacle to witness you wouldn’t believe if it wasn’t witnessed.
Every story told is supposedly witnessed. It's when you don't have evidence that no one believes it and guess what, there's no evidence of any of this.
But no flim...hmmmm BS
Amazing. I always loved Orcas 🤗
Orcas were like "yo delete the tape or you're next. There is no violence in these waters, keep driving."
I wouldn't put it past the orca to leave the dead sea lion there as bait so it could ambush the biggest shark that showed up. Now the orca has even more food.
Orcas are amazing and super intelligent animals. I believe there's no recorded attacks of them on humans in the wild. We should all be thankful that these top predators are not like the mindless sharks. It seemed like he was showing off to the people in the boat look "what I did"😁
Sharks are not mindless, they are just sharks and i would rather swim with the great white then with the pack of orcas.
Amazing, considering we used to kill them, out of fear.
Yes, they are very friendly and curious around humans. Where I live they'll approach paddleboards, kayaks, boats and are so gentle when they swim under as not to upset the craft. If you're on the shore they'll swim by as close as they can. We see babies and even a white orca.
@@MrMarkeZG I'd pay to see that!
Duh, they're smart enough to know what humanity would do to them if they became a problem to us.
Humans are the scariest, most dangerous animals on this planet.
This video should be called “The Tales of captain Mick”
The Orca was like, "I got the shark, see? You guys can come in now!"
"So was it perhaps just protecting its food?"
- No, it was a bait, the orcas often do it.
It kept coming back with the shark in its mouth for 20 minutes for you to finally take a picture of it with its biggest catch. How could you not get that?
It was in 1997 and It was captured on video.
It happened for 20 minutes and nobody took a picture or video?
Incredible story👍
Orcas are skilled hunters. One of the best in the ocean. They are easily capable of outwitting a lot of humans. I am in full belief that they sensed the great white in their regional area and they decided to set a trap for it and the shark went for it like a moth to a flame
That... or they simply found the shark annoying and within reach.. so why not
Its allways easier to take down prey when you hunt in packs and the prey is alone
Great video of someone _talking_ about something that happened between an orca and a white shark. Fascinating. Wow.
Yeah; totally clickbait video.
I watched this video four times and even slowed it down but still have not been able to discern where the shark is in the video. Interesting story but I would have liked to have had someone film it.
I’m more interested in the question why he showed the carcas two times
Your going to need a bigger shark lol
Orcas are amazing!
Beautiful creatures..
Perfect time to harpoon both at the same time. What a catch that would have been!
Just wondering, if a great white shark was the size of the one in the movie Jaws, would it be a match for one Orca?. Obviously could not defeat a pod of orcas, but possibly a victor over one.
Reiner this was1997 before people were glued to camera phones
The lack of any photo evidence means it's a sailors tall tale
I imagine a orca learns at a young age when feeding on milk from its mother what sharks do.
A great white knows no fear till a aggressive orca goes after it & the great white or tiger don't learn like the young mammals.
I think every predator is naturally cautious as to if it gets any injuries to its senses it could mean game over, orcas on the other hand are pack animals and definitely the apex predator of the sea.
Great white and tigers were young animals and tigers are mammals. But I age some is learned by mom. But Orcas are so intelligent. Studies found them learning new ways to hunt especially when lack of food. Like rolling a shark/ crocodile upside down to drown them. Some Orcas do not know or use this method out of having no need . Saw a study done / documentary on CZcams.
@@TM-iq6sx man, mammals are built different 😂 extremely intelligent
All animals learn on the job, not just orcas. I dive, I've seen tiger sharks avoid spear hunters from previous encounters.
Well for one..the brain of a Great White is about the size of Jalapeño pepper….while the Orca’s is much closer to our size.
I think the same rules apply below as they do above. Just like lions protecting their kill from hyenas and other surrounding predators.
Maybe it killed the sea lion as bait
So glad they didn’t show any good photos of this unseen before event 😂
The orca was definately making a statement.
"Mess with me, and I'll fish you up."
Now imagine your cat brings you a mouse. Now imagine your smaller than the mouse.
You just used “your”in the right way in the first sentence. So how can you not notice you’ve used it incorrectly in the very next one?
I think you mean smaller than the cat !
Orcas are awesome 👌. They wanted to eat an appetizer then have the main course. Shark liver.
Why did the white shatk go around the Orcas, it has to know he was next. Love 💘 Orcas.
@@eddiethedodgeman6758 , Well, it was his first and last big mistake ...
Interesting that he says it went on for 20 minutes and there are no pics.
It would’ve been great to see a picture of it or I don’t know… Maybe a video???
I think the Orca was showing its awesome power to discourage humans from bothering them. It was a classic case of "don't make nothin', won't be nothin'.
That never works 😂
Sharks r afraid of orcas orcas r true kings of the sea
A similar thing happened to me -Bigfoot appeared out of the depths wearing a snorkel circled my boat for 20 mins then did a synchronized swimming routine before a UFO appeared hovering over the water beaming him up and disappearing into thin air, unfortunately, and despite having a camera onboard I forgot to take any photos or film it , my bad.....
I was there, about 200 feet away in another boat. We were that party boat making all of the noise. Me and my buddies from the photography buffs club. We saw the whole thing bro. No pics, but we saw it.
That’s amazing !!! in this day in age no video recorded and he said this went on for 20 mins 😂😂😂😂😂
Where there,s 1 Orca there,s another not far away! Shark ain,t no fool; Orca rams like a train
A group of people watched this for 20 minutes 8' away and not one picture or piece of video footage. I'm throwing the bullshit flag and giving a thumbs down.
Hmm 20 min but no one got a photo ?
‘Take my pic’, that’s why Orca kept coming back for 20 min holding that great white.