The Elemental Powers of the Forbidden Five! 🔥 Ninjago Dragons Rising Season 2 Theory!
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As Rontu said to Wyldfire: There can only be one Master per Element;
Because of that i think that the Forbidden Five will have new powers or steal them similar to season 11
It makes sense that they mightive stole another elemental masters power instead of having their own
They existed way before the ninjas which means they could have the powers of the ninja
@@cronicly7813They still exist though, so they couldn't have inherited their powers
@@p_stains oh yeah 🤣
i dont think aspheera stole kai powers fully. i think she did something sumilar to skylar powers. absorbing energy of the elmental power but the opower still inside the elemental master. when aspheera try to steal kai's powers she take like 100 or 99 per cent of the energy but the power it self is recharging.
I’m kinda scared that Kai and Bonzle will meet the rest of the forbidden five in whatever place they are now, but I believe they’ll be freed before that happens. If that happens though, it’d be quite interesting
I was thinking the same thing. I was surprised they didn’t hint at it durning the end.
@@sg._.dragon to me it just kinda made sense that they'll meet the forbidden five unless somehow all of them escaped
Let them it will make an awesome b-plot
@@user-cz3bz5rs2xmaybe the escaped into Jordana’s head and that’s why she was looking like a drug addict at the end of part 1
@user-cz3bz5rs2x yeah and they might have speed that no one would see them
I think the powers would be something dark like:
Fear
Nightmares
Void
Corruption
Cursed
that would b cool
Maybe one could be death? To counter Lloyd’s element of energy/life?
Cool elements bro.
I need the rest of the season to hurry up and get released yes lol
fr
Agreed
Animation takes time..
Keep in mind, Rontu said there can only be one elemental master at a time, so they might not have these powers anymore. Possibly part of their banishment was being stripped of their powers.
Edit: I also realized that this might not be the case, for what we have seen so far, only elemental masters have done shatterspin, and if this is the case, Nokt shouldn’t be able to do this either. This also could mean that only elemental masters can do the rising dragon technique, which is another reason behind Arin not being able to do it besides him sucking at spinjitzu
But Arin DOES do Rising Dragon. In a set, so it is non-canon though.
Brotha in hands of time Kai and Nya and their parents and their is a scene where do use fire and in the island and early sea bound Nya’s mom uses water
@@jakneez we ARE only halfway through this season, episodes 11 through 20 are in June I think. So Arin could be an elemental master and we don’t know it. I think his object spinjitsu is one of his powers as an elemental master. Sora is a tech master, so maybe Arin is a master of everyday objects? Maybe called Natural? Idk, maybe he has explosion powers, but that would be lame, we already have Kai and Wyldfyre, so there would be no point. He could be a Kinetic Master, so maybe he can impart kinetic energy, kinda like Gambit, and maybe take it away? That would be cooler, and probably more balanced, than just having power over non-technological items, which could potentially just let him control entire cities. Idk.
I'd say the Forbidden Five members possess elemental powers unique to them which we've never seen before. Aftet all, even though they were inprisoned in the Nether Space, they were still alive over the centuries. And since it's highly unlikely that they'd have any descendants, they could keep their powers over that time. (If Morro could keep his after he was banished into the Cursed Realm, then so could the Forbidden Five
Besides, the theorized ones in the video could not be possible. Lloyd's element is confirmed to be unique to him only (as the green ninja); the four elements of creation were inherited in bloodlines and lineages in Ninjago, and as it was mentioned the Forbidden Five came from another realm (one which they also conquered before their defeat); and (as far as we know) powers like heat, fusion and technology all came to existance after the Merge, so they could not be present centuries ago.
Perhaps, in order to keep those trapped in it, Nether-Space makes it's prisoners immortal, because death would result in it's prisoners go to the Departed Realm.
I'm guessing that previous masters of Time were among The Forbidden 5, and it was after hearing stories of them that Acronix and Krux decided to turn against the elemental alliance. Also, am I the only one who's noticed the Forbidden 5's physical resemblance to the stone warriors? What if the Forbidden 5 were allied with the Overlord during the Stone wars, and he based the stone army's appearance on them?
Could be possible because they do resemble the stone Warriors
Maybe, but I don't think they will pull Overlord into this. Also I don't think they are from Ninjago so they couldn't take part in the Stone wars.
I think Ninjago didn’t event exist at their time
I thought bone warriors (core villians)(core 2)
It could be ancient elemental power that we haven’t seen yet it wouldn’t make sense for them to have same elements as the ninja bc the lore said so
You know that when the portal to the forbidden five closed the second of the forbidden five managed to jump out because before the portal closed Bonzle flew into it but the portal closed when he was halfway out and he was probably the red thing that probably possessed Jordana
I like theory that if the forbidden five are banished, no one could get their elemental powers.
Maybe the elemental power can't pass on because 1 their still alive & 2 their stuck in that banished area/place.
I mean that’s true since we know only way an element can pass on is if the old master of it dies or if they have children or if they pass it on before they die
2:07 Zane did technically use a spear during his time as the Ice Emperor
2:25 How would they have tech powers if they're supposed to be ancient?
Here's my thoughts:
What if the elemental power they possess is related to who is sacrificed. For example, Nokt was revived through Kai's sacrifice, so he would be Fire.
Otherwise, if they ARE just the same elements as the og 5 ninja, that would be really cool, as they'd serve as dark reflections of them (Kinda like in Double Trouble back in Season 2 of MoS)
Nokt chose to leave first? They just need an unshattered soul
Then why would the cloud munks from the cloud kingdom be used as sacrifices?
@@deltasendaris3241 Idk, it's just a thought
@@deltasendaris3241 i think that ras didnt know or didnt care if the
Forbidden 5 had extra power
Am I the only one who thinks Nokt looks like a Stormkeeper. With his face, teeth and hat it kinda looks simular. Would be crazy if he is an Keeper
Yea but the teeths make him look like he's more a Geckle or a Munce or both versions like Geo
I think he is. If we look at the possible time frame of these being EARLY Elemental Masters then the FSM maybe gave one of the Keepers who helped him in stopping Wohira/Wojira an elemental Power to help with protecting Ninjago, but he and the other four decided THEY were to rule Ninjago and probably planned to use the FSM to get to the other realms and conquer them as well.
Power ideas:
-cold
-death
-poison (again)
-shattering?
-transportation (portals)
-soul/life
-wood
-size (grow/shrink)
-surprise???
Speed force or something like atomic energy
Or geo
XDDDDDDDD
“-surprise???” As Wu once said, “That’s the fuscia ninja.” (I cant spell the word for the type of pink mentioned above, but I tried)
@@jakneez thats from the movie which is a reference to season 1 when young lloyd dyed zane's suit pink
i have a theory that the forbidden five were the first elemental masters of earth, fire, ice, lightning, energy but the fsm took away their powers when he saw how evil they were becoming
They could have formally been elemental masters and their powers were passed down to others in some way or they have 5 new powers that existed before the merge
Man can't wait to see more of them in part 2
Maybe the Forbidden Five have Forbidden Elements like their Forbidden fighting Style so the Forbidden Elements could be elements that are too over powered like Space, Crystal, Nightmares, Portal and Kinetic Force
Possible.
garmadon told the kai in the tournament of elements season that skylor cant be fire power because there can only be one of the same elemental master at a time
Elements of the Forbidden Five (My Take):
- Heat (The Chain Weaponsman)
- Fusion (The Spearman)
- Tech (The Swordsman)
- Smoke (The Other Swordsman)
- Wind (The Reaper)
Those are all taken man it was said there can only be one master of an element at a time
Nope it can't have 2 elementals masters with the same power.
@@Appmonvert That’s just my take. And if they were, four would try to reclaim their powers. One meanwhile would train Cinder.
Maybe they have the elemental powers that are the same as source dragons namely motion, strenght, life and so on since we know people can get elemental powers that are same as names of source dragons like Lloyd and there is speed as an element so it wouldn't be crazy for one to have strenght, one to have motion, one to have life
There’s already the element of motion someone has so that debunks that theory
@@GrimReaper_TTV Who and there is seven source dragons unless if one is speed and the other one is Zeatrix's power there is enough for forbidden five
The thing is those aren't elements. They are concepts that each of the elements represent
Well, Nokt if you were to spell with a c instead of a k stands for Nighttime, as in NOCTurnal. So, maybe something related to that?
I can see why you would think that but then again they used FORBIDDEN powers therefore after their era their elements were not used up until now.I think the first of the forbidden five uses shatter spin as he used it when he was released an that's just one of the many powers the blood moon has to offer.
shatter spin is a technique not an element so that isn't his one power
@@gibbsterVsmart tbh I didn't catch that but that technique may be unique to him only🤷
What if now what if as it's just a theory but what if the forbidden fives elemental powers are shadow, spirit, steel, radiation, and and gravity (the last 3 I'm just speculating but the other 2 kinda gave it away)
Lol so dose that mean Shade and Gravis are dead ?, and wouldn’t steel just be metal ?
@@ClassicStudStudios oh idk I mean that's just my guess of what it could be I could also be totally wrong but it's just a theory
I wonder what happened to Ash (previous ash master)
@@LisFlamer probably died in the merge or something
The chained weapon is a rope dart. I personally like that.
I feel like they would have more unique powers, for a moment I thought they were some type of Oni but if they are elemental masters it could be elements we never seen
Blue fire
Lava
Sand
Acid
Crystal
And if you want to use the logic of how fire and heat are different you could say that lightning and electricity are different powers as well
Good powers 👍👍👍👍
I think Cold and Space could be up there. Idk what else though. Maybe Fear. Sand or Lava or Glass would be neat. Or Acid.
Yes, I’ve been looking for this. Finally some answers
cool vid i thought the guy that got relesd got insant karma
Maybe
Reality
Mind control
Soul
Animal control
And illusion
Would be cool
None of these are even really elements plus if they were too powerful that it took even the fsm to take them down these elements would be too weak for that besides reality
@@GrimReaper_TTV all together will be powerful soul can control the dead the and illusion can give the characters trauma
The infinity stones
@@bryans3436 they are inevitable
Maybe their powers are an opposite to the ninja's power
since the current bounty is destroyed, do you think that perhaps they will build a new bounty thus getting a new set?
Dragon Rising Season 2 Part 2 Cole and Zane will rescue Jay and they should give him Merge suit Mech Pilot Suit and Climber suit he can wear all new ninja suits in one season when he regain his memories back!
I feel like it’d be more fun to see brand new elements, my favorite part of DR season one was seeing new powers used
My theory is that that the Forbidden Five have elements that were never shown in the show. Because when Nokt come out the portal in Dragons Rising Season 2 Part 1 Episode 10, he still had the ability to do shatterspin and you need to be an elemental master to do shatterspin. So the Forbidden Five can’t have powers that we already saw during the entire show. This means the Forbidden Five’s elemental powers never passed on to someone else meaning they still have their powers after so many centuries
Nokt power might be fear Bast on the design of his robe
In think that there elemental powers are something like teleportation. Basically meaning that they can teleport themselves or anyone else. Another one would be like shadows. They basically control the shadows and can also blend in with them. One of them would also have the power of duplication. They can duplicate anything they want. Persuasion would be another one as well. The last one would be the ability to communicate with animals.
Maybe one of them has the power of sand we have never seen anyone with sand power
I feel like their powers should match their evil such as illusion, mind control, time, invulnerability and possibly either lightning or fire
Wu said there can only be 1 master of a element at 1 time so time and fire are off the table
@@GrimReaper_TTV read the "lightning" part too and cross that off the table
if you look at the shatterspin comics the five people that are around Garmadon There’s one with pink hair and the same markings as Sora ,I’m thinking she’s a descendent of one of the forbidden five
tanner you should do an updated season 2 Arin is the FSM theory video
With all the realms merged the forbidden 5 will have more to cocer
We just don't have enough information at the moment. I would prefer that the forbidden five have new elements, but I like both ideas Tanner proposed as well.
Yeah, I’ve gotta agree with the fact that they probably have completely unique abilities. My first reasoning in this is Morros Wind abilities not being passed down even when he was sealed in the cursed realm, meaning that sealing/banishment doesn’t remove elemental powers. It’s also quite clear that elemental powers are different in different dimensions, as shown by the tech (which couldn’t happen as there really no point in an ancient ability to control tech, as there was no tech), fusion, heat and whatever Beatrice’s sister had. I believe that they would most likely have abilities it is correlating to those of source dragons. Of course, not exact replicas, but powers related to the concepts. I already believe that Egalt has an elemental ability that’s has something to do with motion, as he continues to preach that through out the series, and it seems that Egalt and Rontu had a bit more relations to the 5 than stated. I’d also like to point out that there are seven source dragons, so if you were to add Egalt, Rontu and the Forbidden Five together, you’d get the number of source dragons. As for specific abilities, I’d believe that the Forbidden 5 member in the front, who seems to be the leader, would possess abilities correlating to the strength source dragon, and possibly could be the developer of Shatterspin, with its emphasis on strength. As for Rontu and the other 4 of the five, I can’t really be sure, but I could make some guesses. I’d apply the one I assume to be Balance (the gray and gold one) to Rontu as that seems to fit with her character, and her similarities to Wu (as she came off as a younger more cheery version of him to me), and I’d assume that Nokt would have a power correlating with the blue source dragon, which could possibly represent flow, simply because of his blue coloring, not because of his personality or anything. Ultimately, this is just a theory, so I can’t be sure, but based on what we know, I believe this works well.
P.S I’m praying that Jay gets ends up as a sixth member of the forbidden 5, as we do know he will be turning evil. So in that case you’d put both Rontu and Egalt under motion and have Jay represent another one, most likely energy as that resembles lightning.
Nokt looks like an islander and an onion and a stone warrior
Well it can't be ice, water or lightning since those elements already have holders. But maybe after they got trapped in nether-space their Elemental powers multiplicated and one part of it stayed with them and the other part found a new holder!
It also can’t be time(the time twins are alive since the realms merged they probably got unstuck from being stuck in time itself) or any element we’ve already seen
I love the idea of the five having the main five ninjas powers but it doesn’t seem likely or as Zane would say illogical, I hope that they just have all new powers we haven’t seen before
mostly unrelated, but how exactly did garmadon get the power of destruction after he was resurrected? did the source dragons choose to give him it, given he was born without power unlike wu? why was he born powerless and why would they return that power to him? did the serpent corruption take his powers away and he was cured of it after his resurrection?
Not sure if we’ll ever find out. But it could have something to do with the oni masks?
And another thing, how were the oni masks even able to bring him back because they were definitely made before his life, being relics from the first realm I believe.
Everyone’s guess is as good as mine. But I saw that flashback sequence thing with whatever Bonzle was using to tell her story, and their designs remind me of that one character in that one short years ago
Definitely not related at all but I can somewhat see similarities in their designs
Look at the design on his robes it looks like on of the overlords forms.
Imagine if the forbidden five have elemntal powers of: Dark fire, Dark Ice, Dark Earth, Dark Lightning and Dark energy. But this is probably not gonna happen.
@@Kaixfr exactly
Not possible as that would technically just be the main elements which we know there can only be 1 one master of at the time so they’ll have new elements
@@GrimReaper_TTV but what if dark element is different to a normal element.
that’d be really boring ngl
I want to know more about this topic
My teary is that they the distructive elements of the ninja
1st is magma
2nd is artic
3rd is quake
4th is thunder
5th is dark energy
I guess
Before i watched season 2, I thought maybe instead of bringing back the forbidden five, Ras would recruit elemental masters to become the new forbidden five, like Cinder, and maybe even Jay
Actually, I looked up and Nokt might be a Ninjagian version of Noct which is a word connected to Darkness, specifically with sunrise and sunset, so I think he could be the ancient Master of Shadow. I don't think Tech would amount to anything from the past when the Forbidden Five were alive. Also I think that maybe the FSM had a hand in helping Rontu and Egalt so maybe he took away their powers before the dragons used Bonzel in her spell form to seal the Forbidden Five. Which maybe what Ras intended was to get the Forbidden Five out of their banished realm then go find the Elemental Masters who now control the elements they once did. This would explain why Nokt doesn't do anything with their power, they don't have it(if they are the ancient master of Shadow).
Not really sure what tech he could control centuries before the land of Ninjago even existed
Maybe some magic tech for example like the cores
I think It would be interesting if Arin got one of the powers passed down to him by one of the forbidden five at the end of part 2
I am pretty interested in what the Forbidden Five’s Powers are.
Maybe in S2 P2 when they escape and Fight the Ninja, we’ll find out.
Considerng Heat exists as an elemental power, and the dude's blue, maybe he is the Elemental Master of Cold?
Hey I have a theory that one of the forbidden five sees Kai and goes to fight him but then lord rass pushes some one through the gate saving Kai but returning a member of the forbidden five this member has the elemental power of form he spy’s on the ninja pretending like Kai but wildfire notices he’s acting weird and gets caught then he returns to the shadow dojo
Nokt: Portals
Forbidden Second: Fear
Forbidden Third: Chaos
Forbidden Fourth: Nightmares
Forbidden Fifth: Plasma
I'd imagine the powers would be a form of explosion another one could be plasma or something like lloyds anither could be lava another can be a different form of shadow and another can be just straight up darkness or maybe a type of light power but it's just an evil guy using it
These guys are just better oni but with an improvement on their main motivation and just luck drastically cooler and we get a sneak
What if their elemental powers are similar to the Source Dragons? Lloyd is the Master of Energy, and the SD he freed was the SD of Energy. So what if in the same way, the other SDs have elemental masters tied to them? It would also explain why the Forbidden 5 could live for centuries.
Solaris and orion master of illusion
I have a theory shatterspin does not require elemental power it is a fighting technique also dragons rising can be performed by anyone like Arin who knows spinjitzu. But regarding to their elemental powers maybe it could be related to the source dragons powers like motion strength.
Off the top of my head:
Poison
Earth (Coles Grandfather)
Lightning?
Ice
Tech
Nope they have more than 1000 years old, that can't be Cole's gandfather and it can have two elementals masters with the same powers it impossible.
@@Appmonvert oh right I forgor
@@WolfGaming-fq1ho don't worry bro, i forgive you
Poison kind of make sense but the others didn't really make sense for me
@@azfarathallah1582 like I said off the top of my head
It's the forbidden 7 now with Krux and Acronix
I was thinking maybe like
Motion
Time
Energy
Gravity
Mind
Idk kind of like related to the universe, an elemental power so complex it makes up the universe?
Maybe thats why they are too overpowered?
But again I can debunk this theory because someone(i forgot who) said that there can only be one elemental power at a person at once. But maybe for time, one of the forbidden five passed their powers to krux and acronix so they can spread evil like what the forbidden five wanted. Idk about the others though. Motion is the only new elemental power I can think of that fits into the list.
I also wanted to add space but i think mind just fits in the list more than space
So for an alternative one Id go for
Space
Motion
Time
Gravity
Energy
maybe as garmadon is the elemental master of destruction, nokt is the elemental master of darkness
Perhaps it's cold, rock, thunder, fluids and power?
There's a major plot hole I just found in the finale ras says all you need is an unshatered soul however kais soul was shattered when he was as a wolf mask warrior
I'm actually a fan of the consept of the forbidden five let's just hope lego make them in a set during the summer
definetly not tech that would be weird imagine tech 1000 years in the past of ninjago
It's possible that they lost their powers when new Elemental Masters emerged like Ray and Maya.
Nokt did also use Shatterspin to knock Nya out of Rising Dragon.
Depending on how the forbidden fives name is spelt, it could be the elemental power of shade/shadow, since nacht (sounds exactly like his name nokt) means night, or dark in German, perhaps…. Just a theory though….?🤔
My theory is that maybe the five original ninja will go in and the forbidden five will come out so maybe the guy that came out when Kai went in was a fire elemental.
What if there is someone that inherited their power maybe one of them with the elemental master of sand in the next episodes to come.
Damm
Could be the source dragons power? Coz they was the first but they locked them up and the source dragons and oni made the fsm to to there job that they failed smth like tha prob
It seems false, but it could work. 1:56 or 2:17
I believe that the 4 new elemental powers we've seen...are meant to be the former powers of the Five
- Tech
- Heat
- "Force"
- Fusion
since...why would these powers just not exist pre-merge?
Just like zeatrix they will have elements that existed in the realm before the merge because things about it if they are still elemental masters they still they power which means they don't have a bloodline the past on the power
I wonder which elemental power the leader of the forbidden 5 has?
is it just me or does nokt look like the islanders. it would be cool since nyad, the original elemental master of water, was a islander
The most important thing who taught them in the first place,? who is their master
thank for answering my query
now one more where is wyldfire's boyfriend as per the lego spoilers
nokt's name seems to imply a darkness or shadow elemental power to me
theory we all know there lost in time 40 years there's a theory spreading that.... The 5 ninja are them krux and axronix fought them 40 yrs in the future
I think one of the Forbidden fives Elemental power is some kind of stone power
I believe the one on the far left is holding a Glaive. Not a Spear
maybe noct has some kind of night power because nox / noctis translates to night
If the forbidden five still have their elemental powers, this will mean a completely new elemental power we have not seen, and that ninjago or any other realms have not witnessed for thousands of years.
Edit: I made this comment before watching the video but my point still stands, we got a chance to witness 5 new elemental powers.
Could it be that kai was banished so nokt could be released, therefore nokt was the elemental master of fire.
Maybe nokets power is maybe fear because of the fases on his clothing
I think the forbidden fives elemental powers are the main powers of the Ninjago. Energy, fire, lightning, earth, and ice
Noktu leader
Well the real the true empress of imperium zeatrix has the power of force or something like that. That could be one of the forbidden fives elemental powers
What about the wired hexagon power Beatrix’s sister has
My theory is that the elementale powers well come ti existtens if the
Area has a obondent of that elment
For example
The first master of water niyad was born in old time ninjago were water was a bondent
Sora's tech powers come from her seroundings that have a toon of tech
Giyod the master of fusion is because hes a fusion of two race's
The gegils and the monks.
Maybe they become stronger when they are side by side because the man who came wanted the others.