Bradley A2 Switchology and Fire Control System
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That’s it! I’m Abrams’ and Bradley qualified now!
(I’m totally not)
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hvymtal yeah man
I played arma and I'm now a professional soldier.
@@nightrise45 yeah man
We need Leopard 2 Switchology
i personally would like to see you guess your way around a challenger 2
A cooperation with with others having equal knowledge about other tanks would be interesting to see what the differences are
@@JGenM im sure a certain mr cutland wouldnt mind getting involved
Challenger 2 isn’t fully implemented in SBP :( only the gunner position is set up
There is no interior for the Challenger 2 AFAIK
Ravenhold Ivy there is for the gunner position, but that’s it. Maybe the driver?
Speaking of Bradley. Can you do a video on the movie "Pentagon wars" eg how much of it is true etc.
Why not a small series on what movies get wrong or right along with that
@@fallout0624 cuz that's 'History Buffs' boi
@@crossfirerambo History Buffs while being a good channel wouldnt feel rght explaining tank bassd topics from movies
I think it would be better to compare the criticisms laid out in the book to his own personal opinion...
It got nothing right besides the mission creep reality of modern weapon platforms.
I love the big grey floaty things shirt. I need one for vacation.
This video and its information finally came in handy for me, as while on deployment the Bradley guys who were attached to us let me get my hands on one of them and it basically allowed me to go from "some Redleg there to learn about the Bradley" to "some Redleg who knows enough about the Bradely that he basically becomes an assistant instructor"
Do the russian/soviet tanks next, i would love to know the difference in doctrine and ergonomics BMP-2 or the T-72,
Re: TOW. The TOW 2B Aero variants are the wireless variants and have extended the Missile range to 4500m. No modification to vehicle or fire control is required; the vehicle does not know it is firing a wireless missile. They can be fired from any of the Bradley variants, though there are no ODS left in service (the ODS-SA, A3, and A4 all share the same sight and fire control; the SA just lacks the commander’s Independent viewer).
So cool, my dad was a Bradley TC in Korea during the late 80's and later was an instructor at Fort Irwin. He too mentioned the horrors of manually clearing the 25mm, and now I see what he meant lol
He had a pretty cool story about a war game they did in Korea: His platoon was up on a hill and were being assaulted by a particularly gung-ho Sargeant, well because of the elevation difference they struggled to get depression to target the advancing infantry, so my dad had them button up and radioed a unit of PIVAD 20mm Vulcan SPAAGs on another ridge and asked them if they could fire indirect on his position. (The officer running the simulation said this was allowed) So as the Sargeant and his unit got up on his Bradleys they were "killed" by a hail of theoretical 20mm HE shells, which he informed the Sargeant of after he triumphantly knocked on the door of the Bradley to claim victory. My dad said he was pretty fucking pissed to hear about that little trick lol.
The Bradley gets a lot of shit about its development, but I've never heard a truly damning complaint about the vehicle from my father.
The sound of a hailstorm of 20mm cannon shells hitting your hull IRL would be terrifying, but you know your armor can withstand it. That would work. It really would.
Ahhh good ol team spirit. Was in korea in 86, back during the cold war. Cool trick, kind of an extreme version of spraying the hull to repel infantry lol.
20mm "indirect fire" from M163s? Are you sure your dad was serious?
@@VN3oHoiW Well idk how realistically simulated this action was, it's possible the M163 crew had no idea how to actually calculate and execute an indirect fire mission (let alone as a coordinated battery) but just played along anyway.
It was close to the end of the exercise too so I think the simulation officer was just in it for the lolz at that point and said why not. Cause it wasn't something my dad expected them to approve, certainly wouldn't expect it to work in real combat, if only because the crews aren't trained for it. Theoretically it'd work though, they used even LMGs in special mounts as indirect fire weapons in WWI, and while not very effective at the time, I imagine 20mm HE from a Vulcan would be a lot more potent and accurate in such a configuration.
@@VN3oHoiW This is not the weirdest thing I've seen. In reality I would be interested to see how much ammo and friendly fire it takes to walk the rounds to the target..........if the M163s can actually see whats going on....
I spent 2 weeks on one of these in Hohenfels in 94 when they took all the drivers from our M1’s in our company and turned us into infantry. It was a horrible machine to ride in. I never missed the drivers hole so much as I did when I spent that time in a Bradley.
Cco 3/77 Armor 1st AD 1992-1995 Mannheim Germany “OLD IRONSIDES”
Eagerly awaiting the Leo2A5 vid for this
Hey Chieftain, have you considered doing a video of the development history of the Bradley? It would be very interesting to hear your perspectives on it.
A video about the CV90 would be great.
Nice! Again an offer: If you ever want to do a "Marder switchology" video...I could help with that. :-)
Send me a PM on Facebook, would you?
@@TheChieftainsHatch; I would, but I'm not on FB. Sorry. Option: can you PM me on the steelbeast.com site? Callsign "Grenny"... If thats no way, I'll to to get an account at the evil FB ;-)
I would be very intrested in this, especially on the later A3/A5 models
On the M3ODS the bit is one it; the Blue Force Tracker in mounted on the Coax Door, I was on the Scout Brad for 3 years before retirement.
Another interesting and entertaining vid, thanks Chieftain. We your humble audience appreciate your sterling efforts!
I used to play Steel Beasts back in the early 2000's. Thinking about getting into it again. Great sim.
*start of the video* I really have to chuckel because my eyes witness a true Chieftain in his natural environment ^^ great stuff keep it up!
*Chieftain plays games* This is something i could get behind. Thanks you again Chieftain for all of the great content!
Thanks Nick... this brought back memories... I gunned the M2A1 and M2A2 before reclassing into the MP Corps
Darn CZcams compression makes the reticule rather hard to see. But this is another great video. Super cool to hear it all explained by someone who used the real thing. Thank you for both of these videos, first rate stuff.
Crazy looking at old Bradleys. I was on a M2A3 when I was in and its cool to see all the little changes they made.
Seriously. Giving a tour to people of an ODS seemed the same in the turret, until you stick your face in a brow pad, and then the ODS seems absolutely barbaric after NET and range time on an A3.
And they're always bemused as to why we keep singing the 'Seer, Seer, Safe, Handle, Cable, Handle' jingle to ourselves in the turret.
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing I remember getting brand new ODS and later versions. You are absolutely right. Also...fuck connecting those feed chutes.
@@Dadecorban RIP to the sanity of every gunner doing D&A on the chutes. Exhausted. In the dark. Trying to clear off the range.
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing I lost god there.
These Switchology videos were really interesting. Thanks for those
Would love more videos like this.
I shared this video with a old friend of mine that was a Bradley gunner in the early 00's. His name is also Bradley. It was quite fitting.
These are great videos sir. I'm really enjoying them.
I miss the Gunners position, was on the initial and A1, Best job I ever had! Courage And Faith, Straight and Stalwart, and ALLONS Sir!
Ahh. My old stomping grounds. I was a turret mech for this and the A1 back in the day.
Hey Nick, not to nitpick I promise - I love your work.
13:00 Setting the launcher from 'stowed' or 'lowered' was 'raising' or 'lowering' the launcher. Kept the crew from getting confused.
Also, raising or lowering it manually took a good five or so minutes if you used a 'speed bar' and it was done from outside the vehicle and behind the launcher. As Nick says, not something you wanted to be doing under fire.
That said, it's been longer for me than the Chieftan. I got out mid '94
I absolutely love these videos, thank you sir. Cheers
So completely familiar! Like a walk down memory lane....I have to say that I don't miss the turret much at all.
I’m a simple man. I see a new video from The Chieftain, I stop what I’m doing and watch it.
Highly recommend the book!
Great series of videos! I think a T72 or similar would be a great counterpoint before moving onto the Leopard 2 and other NATO standard vehicles. Keep up the good work!
As a gunner on a YPR 765 ,and shooting a 25 mm oerlikon in the dutch army in the late 80's, we had the night vision, but all other functions were pretty much "ww2 gunnery".
that's why we were trained to have 3 shots at a moving target , correcting with for example "2 forward , 1 up" when we missed, meaning; aim 2 vehicle lengths further in front and 1 vehicle height above when correcting our aim.
If after 3 shots at a moving target we still had no hit, we would seek another target.
If we had a hit, we fired 2 more kill rounds.
Auto 3 or 10 rounds were available but we were discouraged to use them unless in situations like for example a emerging Hind attack helicopter or massive oppositional attack.
This to save ammo.
Very cozy.
Ah, the PLGR (precision lightweight GPS receiver) which you mentioned as 'plugger' early on. I got to play with one during my COMSEC repair school, during which I never got to see anything that was actually secure.
Great video. Would love to see one on the CV9030, as it is probably the one closest to the Bradley in design, and see how much is different in the finnish versus norwegian version that I have some experience with.
Well, I would love to see the cv9040 or the STRV122. I want to see how good our tanks here in Sweden are. But a great video. Seems to be an awesome job to work with tanks.
Cv90 is great, denmark tool them to Afghanistan...
@@01Bouwhuis yes. The CV90 has done great during Afghanistan from what I have read.
My father is very happy with the M110 kit and got all nostalgic while looking at it. "Corporal Lowhorn sat right here..." You said you yourself had the M107 kit (which my father has nothing but disdain for because of its inaccuracy), which has the same vehicle base. Dad said every single last time they fired Charge 5 White Bag (low charges go 1-7 in Green Bag and mid charges go 1-5 in White), the aluminum armor plates covering the engine and transmission (the raised plate at the front of the glacis and the semi-cylinder just behind it) would fly off of the machine. They never figured out how to keep the things on under the concussion of that blast. Apparently, 75 yards BEHIND the gun, the same charge would make clam shell mess kits pop open. This happened despite the gun tube itself being the same size as previous guns, the same height above the ground, using the same charges as the previous M55 towed 8-inch guns the 1st-of-the-75th had been using before. No one in the army ever figured it out while he was in, but perhaps they fixed it later with the longer tube and muzzle brake.
One of my favorite stories of my father's though, is about the chief sergeant of the unit (can't remember his actual rank), named Holland but known to the men as "Smoothbore" - because he wore dentures and when he went into the mess room for breakfast he would make a giant mound of everything on offer, smother it with gravy, then sit down, take his teeth out, put his mouth on the edge of the plate and just shovel it in. One day, they went out for gunnery practice and found that the cloth targets they were supposed to shoot at had all been destroyed. Apparently the battery that was there before them had hit absolutely nothing, and in an attempt to hit "something" before they left the range, they set a fuze to blow up ahead of all the targets, rather than behind them. So when my then-lieutenant father arrived all that was there on the range was a bunch of four inch posts that cloth was supposed to be nailed to 1,000 meters away. Everyone gave some choice comments about the inconsideracy of the preceding unit, and then the commanding officer spoke up "Why aren't you shooting?". Sergeant Holland replied, "Wut would yoo lahk me to shoot at, suh?" "One of those posts, sergeant." "Which wun, suh?" He gestured at one of them and said "That one." Smoothbore climbed up on the vehicle, shooing people out of the way as he went and personally adjusted the lay of the gun. Then he climbed down and called "Faaah". The private pulled the lanyard and the 4-inch post the commanding officer had gestured towards, one kilometer away, broke off at half-height. Smoothbore turned around and said "Which wun NAO, suh??"
You built the kit already?
@@TheChieftainsHatch Oh, no. He's just gotten ahold of some modeling cement (not exactly on the shelf at Walmart anymore...). But it was about an hour of him talking about the gun and his unit when I gifted it to him. As for building it, he says he is going to exercise great self-restraint and go as slow as possible so he can be as accurate as he can with the assembly.
Ha. PM me the final result on my FB page, I'd be curious to see it.
Oh sweet nostalgia. I remember turning in our M2A2s for M2A2ODS in Germany. We deployed them to Kosovo a few months later.
#1 use for the so-called 'Aircraft Sight' from the TC's seat...
Walking your gunner onto identifying the target during manual/degraded mode gunnery. You get to play Hold/Cold with him over the com.
Because he's not going to spot a damn thing with the prism.
Good work 👍
Love the vids
Most of the controls are very similar to the Bionix that I used to operate in the Singapore Army. A few differences, the position of the VC and gunner is flipped, gunner on the right, VC on the left. Don't have a guard around our Bushmaster or COAX.
Amazing shirt, sir! Never saw a Hawaiian shirt with USS Missouri on it, but I guess it does make sense.
would love to see T-72 switchology
Love it keep them coming plz
another nice video. thank you.
Would love to see a video on the Warrior or Chally! :D
Chally's FCS is modeled but the interior is not ;/
When you mentioned the travel lock, we were looking at a SINCGARS radio system! I have seen the inside of those, but it was almost 20 years ago now. I don't remember much.
As mentioned, the travel lock wasn't modelled. It would be located just under and to the left (looking forward) of the radios.
@@TheChieftainsHatch I just wigged out when I saw the radios....I couldn't help myself.
Speaking of the Bradley, I was at Ft Stewart yesterday had one turn around by my truck.
Speaking of "What's the beer bottle?"... What's the everything else? Shelf tour!
Also, yay, more RIA videos!
Any chance for a T-72?
I would love to hear info about the Warhammer Bradley variant and how the use of the Javelin instead of TOW missiles changes vehicle operations.
Well the javelin is fire and forget so fire it and forget it .
I would love to see a review of the Leo2. I know its not gonna happen but it would be amazing to se the difference between the M1, and the Leo2, especialy the Leo2E (Spanish Bias)
since you've done some modern american vehicles, i'd love to see you take on the patton
The Palidans walk through would be nice
Not sure if it’s CZcams’s compression, or maybe steal beasts as a game, but god that red IR sight looks so hard to see anything with. Is there any particular reason they went with red over the traditional green or white?
keelhauling , in Steel Beasts the Thermal sight is very much second generation, it can be very difficult to make out targets, so I check between clear channel and thermals
Had a Bradley commander who had seen NATO missions in Serbia (I think) in my National Guard unit in Minnesota. He seemed to indicate that loading/ unloading the main gun was a pain in the ass.
Oh the memories of Bradley gunnery during a time of 6 months I had been though changing from M2 BFV, M2a1 BFV, M2a2 BFV then dumped into UCOF for a M2a2 ODS BFV with out knowing of the laser rangefinder 😒 this was on top of having my MOS changed due to some jack@## typing up my promotion orders incorrect 😣 being I was 11B20C2 to WTF I'm a 11M20C2 now and being PCS to a mech infantry unit 😠.
I happen to like the M2A2 FCS, over the CV-90, because of the no lead adjustment, I don’t really engage any PC over 2000m, any more I’ll use a TOW 2, but I find the CV90 lead adjustment on all variants is very temperamental, unlike the Brad where I can do it myself. And overall, M2A2/M3A2 are arguably my PC’s of Choice on Steel Beasts, as much as I’m British and love the Warrior (ODS), id rather go to war in a Bradley. Until the Warrior gets its 40mm upgrade, then we’ll see how we go.
What causes the "max range over water limit"? Is it the short circuit of the wires caused by water? If I'm reading the chart at 27:42 correctly, for both launcher & target 2m above water, max range over water is 1375m. Does it take so long for the wire to fall 2 meters, that the missile hits before wire reaches the water? Or is it that the wires can be submerged for a short period of time before short circuiting?
the wire drops after a certain distance from the vehicle the rest is standard electrical principles water and electricity = bad. Tie a string on a spool to your car and floor it after a while the cars still going but the string drops to the ground.
Best video game ever.
I wish they'd do a video on the T-10 heavy tank
Awesome video, so tell us Chieftain. What would the batch have been if you could choose your own brew? Looking forward to your tank fest releases, really enjoyed the interview with military history visualized. Bernard? I'm shocking with names lol.
The biggest gun I fired was a Mark 19 and that only at SOI, If they have an LAV in that game, I've never seen the inside of one. Maybe a view of the AMTRAC upgun turret?
This reminds me of MOPP 4 at high noon in NTC's sandbox
Naw YTC dog and pony show for some Brigade commander that didn't even bother to show up.
"Be there fifteen minutes prior, hooah?"
No it's 15 minutes prior for the formation but 15 minutes before that for platoon sgt then 15 minutes prior for the squad leader then 15 for your Team leader so an hour just for shits and giggles i will never miss that stupid shit . And there's all ways somebody late.
Would love to see one on the CV9030-FI, I served as a commander on one of those for a year. It has been 11 years since I've been in the turret of one of those, so I doubt there's much I can help you with but it would be nostalgic to see a video on it. :)
Can you send me a PM on my Facebook page or some such? I spent most of last night researching it, and I suspect I am still missing a fair few things.
@@TheChieftainsHatch Sure thing, hopefully I can still remember enough to help. I will send you a PM via Facebook.
So when you fire a TOW (the wire guided kind) in the rain, over puddles, or in a swampy area, does it work??
Yes the thing was designed for the European theater. There's limitations over large bodies of water because the wire drops to the ground.
Dose steel beasts stimulate the tape?
I'd love to see you cover the T72. It was quite confusing for me. As you know, some of the vehicles have no interior, but the T72 does and I'm lost in there.
Does the game have the newer Bradley in it if so can u do a short vid on it
Interesting!
I'd like to see a T-90M....
This is gonna make me a better Bradley player in War Thunder
Makes my old M113A1 LRV (2 CAV - 4/19 PWLH 1977-1984) look rather primitive 😎
Question: the indicators are telling you (around 6:30 or so, the spirit level and the pendulum) that you cannot fire the TOW missile system. Does this mean that you can press fire and nothing happens, that you press fire and the missile will not hit the target/track properly, or if you press the trigger it will fire the missile but a hazardous condition will result?
Honestly, I'm not sure. We were just told not to try it.
@@TheChieftainsHatch ; Well in game it won't even raise the launcher then, how it is IRL...no Idea
It's like the safety on a M249 Saw yeah it's there but probably not going to work so don't bet your life on it.
it seems WOT got a little less arcadey, maybe time to give it a go again. Thanks for taking your time to do these chieftain, love the detailed explanation!
The game he uses is not WoT in this case...its Steelbeasts (v. 4.023 I guess)
@@RoninTF2011 thought so, should've added a smiley ;)
@@warci; Well then I was just pointing at the obvious...
@@RoninTF2011 hehe np. shame steel beast is so expensive though, would love to give it a spin. I tried the simulator from graviteam a while ago (it's cheap), but couldn't make heads or tails of it unfortunately.
@@warci ; you can get a one year licence for 40$...upgrades included
does Bradley use the same optic to aim its auto cannon and its TOW ATGM? unlike BMP that they uses BPK-2-42 for its autocannon and 9Sh119M1 for its Konkurs ATGM
It does. Selecting TOW changes the reticle.
As described in the video, the TOW reticle is actually etched on the glass itself as the gun reticle is an image projected into the image
Woot!
More cool real stuff :)
do centurion next! (it's called Sho't Kal in the game)
Pls do one on the BMP series as well pls!
that fucking shirt is amazing. the leopard would be awesome.
I'd like to see the buttons on a Oscillating Turret, don't really mind that much which one.
Ha ~ this would be great introductory training.
YES!
Would you ever be willing to do a video playing a full game of Steel Beasts?
wait, i can still get a copy of can openers? sick! i know what im burning that built up annual leave on when it comes in!
@The_Chieftain , i am doing a project in physics class , do you have any idea how barrel stabilization works in tanks , i keep finding conflicting data on them , thanks in advance
Magic gyros .
@@jimbotheassclown ..then something to measure diviation between gyro and gun, and some actuators that try to keep that diviation as close to zero as possible...job jobbed :-P
CV90 would be awesome. As a norwegian i am biased to the 30mm version. But to bad they do not have the BILL atgm system on them. while not fielded normaly, they are developed and can be fitted in a state of war
Is that a nice blue MLW pam behind your right arm (under the white power supply)?
It is, actually. Leopard AS1.
@@TheChieftainsHatch Ah bed time reading during my ROBC (long ago in a training area far away). :)
Are you planning on doing other vehicles present in the simulator?
You did not watch the entire video.
@@SteelbeastsCavalry Not yet I haven't
Nick are you familiar with the Atari Battlezone conversion "Bradley Gunner"?
It rings a bell, but cannot visualise it.
@@TheChieftainsHatch It was an interesting project. Atari, of course, produced many vector based arcade games (think hollow 3d-shapes like Star Wars or Asteroids rather than solid bitmaps), including Battlezone, arguably the first 3d arcade game. So when the US Army saw it, they thought "Hm, that might suit, with some conversions, for Bradley gunnery training" Atari built a prototype and about 30 bespoke cabinets, the Army took delivery, but never did anything else with it. I think it had something to do with how the gunnery mechanics in the MICV had changed.
Atari had anticipated making a couple hundred of them, and in advance of that had made a control yoke for the gunner's position cabinet. Except, of course, now they didn't have the contract. But when they got the nod from Lucasfilm to create a Star Wars arcade game (and later The Empire Strikes Back conversion), they reused the control yoke design from Bradley Trainer for Star Wars. So if you've ever thought that the controls on the Star Wars arcade game look damn familiar, that's why.
If you poke around the internet and find the arcade machine emulator known as MAME, and the right set of ROM copies, you can play it (the Bradley sim). It is very simplified; you fire at a tank, BMP and ZSU-23-4 and MI-24; they don't fire back.
Here's a video (not mine) of it in action:
czcams.com/video/vOhpjf9QUTE/video.html
Ooh, I'm actually curious about aiming the strv and how much of it is affected by the lack of the turret, if you will be so kind.
Which Strv? 61...101...103...121...122... There are load of 'em
I believe the gunner controls are called "Cadillacs" because Cadillac Gage built many of them going back to the 50s.
Another one would be the S-tank, the Strv. 103B.
I think the international standard for millimetres is “mm” but those sights were using “mil” or did that stand for something else? I saw that the Stab light was on, isn’t it dangerous to run out during an engagement and tape a bayonet to the 27 mm?
'Mil' is an angular unit, not lenght like milimeters. "One mil" equals an field of view of 1-meter, in 1000m distance
The T72M1 I have been using in the simulator for a while. It would be nice to show everyone how to gun with a autoloader.
The autoloaders are notoriously unreliably iffy. With few exceptions.
This is making me really think
Wow. Talk about coincidences. I just went back on Thursday and re-watched my copy of The Pentagon Wars, regarding the development of the Bradley. I had forgot what a nightmare the development of that thing was.
@@killdizzle, was one of the officers in charge of development a drinking buddy of yours? You seem to be in quite the rush to defend the program. While I know just how far off the mark books and movies can be, since I was in 2/7 during Desert Shield/Storm, and I know just how much a work of fiction that Tony Swofford's book Jarhead is. The movie was even FURTHER off the mark of reality. From about 15 or 20 minutes of searching online quite a few sources are confirming the assertions that Burton made in his book. The Bradley certainly got better as follow on revisions were released, but it does appear that Burton was pretty close to the mark on what a death trap the first production versions of the Bradley was.
Um, you might want to check into the actual book a little more. The Pentagon Wars was published AFTER Desert Storm. So there's your first inaccuracy. By your own admission, the events in the book occurred before you were even BORN. I'm not disputing that the current Bradley production model, which you'd have used, is a decent enough machine, but the first production iteration was not what's being used today, and significant design changes WERE made to it through the 80s to address the lack of crew survivability. Just because your "experienced combat veterans" repeated a mantra over and over for you, it doesn't mean they're any more right than YOU are. Do you know how many times I head senior NCOs and staff NCOs spout the rubbish line that .50cal can't be used on personnel because it's against the Geneva Convention? More than I care to think about. As to showing you how the early Bradley was a death-trap, here's a couple links for you. One, a discussion of aluminum skinned military vehicles by "more experienced combat veterans than you", AND the second being an actual summary of Burton's work on the Bradley program.
www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/aluminum-hull-fire-armored-vehicle
eng.umd.edu/~austin/enes489p/lecture-resources/BradleyFightingVehicle-Scenario.pdf
So go ahead and READ what people who studied the situation say. Go ahead. I'll wait.
Yes, you ARE wrong about quite a number of things, and evidently you can't admit it even when presented evidence. You're also obviously too lazy to take 5 minutes to READ evidence when it's presented to you. As to believing that Shermans were death traps, no, I don't. Because unlike YOU, I accepted evidence to the contrary when it was presented to me. You still blindly follow rhetoric even when you're presented proof it's false. What a good little crewman you must have been. Let me ask you this, were you an NCO? I was, and I know that part of our duty was to give our Marine confidence in our equipment, even when it wasn't warranted. How how do you think morale would have been in your unit if your sergeants and staff NCOs told you right up front, "Oh yeah, we get hit with an RPG and the track's going to be melting down into a pool of aluminum, but you won't mind because you're going to cook in the first few micro-seconds." Pretty piss-poor I'll bet.
Your honor, the defense rests. The defendant has washed his brain and we can't do a thing with it.
Actually Johnny, here you go. Here's the actual DOD Live fire test report on the Bradley, and also the GAO office report detailing how the Army got caught fudging results in earlier tests. Have fun.
archive.org/stream/BradleyFightingVehicleSystemPhase2LiveFireTestReport/Bradley%20Fighting%20Vehicle%20System%20Phase%202%20Live%20Fire%20Test%20Report_djvu.txt
www.gao.gov/assets/210/208234.pdf
apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a166053.pdf
I'm sure though, that won't count as proof to you either.
Thank you, defence. I now pronounce you man and wife.
*Edit: As a doting civvy, Johnny gets to be the wife.
Is it true that some units would carry more
high explosive rounds on 1 Bradley and other would carry armor piercing since they use more high explosive rounds throughout combat during Afghanistan and Iraq Battles
It's not impossible. The system is set up that you can reverse the 'normal' HE-heavy loadout if you needed to. No idea if it was done, but the designers certainly allowed for the possibility.
Any reason why the Hellfire hasn't been adapted for Bradley mounting? Fire and Forget is a nice option when your armor is aluminum.
@@killdizzle Thanks for the data.
TOW weighs 40-50 pounds, Hellfire weighs 100-110 pounds. Hellfire would also require either a laser designator or a millimeter wave radar to be added for guidance.
@@ARCNA442 Thanks for your input.
Nick mentioned the newer Bradley has a LASER rangefinder option. Anyone know how it differs from a LASER Illuminator?
A range finder is temporary like a snap shot.. An illuminator is constantly on to track the target and can be tracked back to you with the right equipment. Like ir lasers for night vision were great when only the U.S had night vision .