The why Jesus said no one see the FATHER. One who sees the Son sees The Father.. all along from the old the testament this famous THE Angel of the Lord is always the Son.
@@ashenafiashenafi4605 “Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the Lord out of heaven.” Genesis 19:24 This “Lord” was one of the angels that appeared to Abraham as a human
@@ProvingChristianity so the LORD is one then. If it is one of the angels that appeared to Abraham. Two of them are not the LORD. Whenever Genesis uses interchangeably the Angel of The LORD and the LORD, it is because the Angel bears the name of God, it is not because the Angel is God. Therefore the Scriptures in the Old Testament related to this subject don’t prove Trinity. Trinity is humans trying to add their own tradition to the scriptures.
Zechariah 1:12 New International Version 12 Then the angel of the Lord said, “Lord Almighty, how long will you withhold mercy from Jerusalem and from the towns of Judah, which you have been angry with these seventy years?” How is the Angel of the Lord, God, but also speaks to God? Because the Angel of the Lord also speaks as Yahweh himself. It proves the Trinity.
@@ashenafiashenafi4605The Angel of the Lord is GOD! Judges 6:11-23. The angel of the Lord appears to Gideon, and in verse 22 Gideon fears for his life because he has seen the angel of the Lord face to face, which is similar to when others in the Tanakh (Old Testament) fear they will die because they have seen God
When it says Angel of the Lord in caps it's incarnation Jesus. This Angel of the Lord received worship and had the appearance of the Son of God. There is a difference between a angel and the Angel of the Lord. Great teaching Cory!
Yes!! "Angel of the LORD" with LORD in caps means Jehovah. Other mentions of Angel of the Lord where Lord is not in caps is referring to an angel ie Gabriel. LORD in caps is never used when describing Gabriel or other angels. It's a big difference that can be easily missed.
@@sisterbecky411 I agree that God wasn’t born for He is eternal so yes the Mashiach was the son of God, but who was in him was God. 1 John 4:2-3 (HNV) 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit who confesses that Yeshua the Messiah has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit who doesn't confess that Yeshua the Messiah has come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the anti-messiah, of whom you have heard that it comes. Now it is in the world already. 1 Timothy 3:16-16 (HNV) Without controversy, the mystery of godliness is great: God was revealed in the flesh, Justified in the spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the nations, Believed on in the world, And received up in glory.
@@sisterbecky411 Wow sisterbecky!! A whole entire editorial!!!! So just don't regard what Jesus plainly said when He said: I and my Father are one?? Read John 17th chapter and yell me what you think.
@@sisterbecky411 How do you handle these scriptures? Hebrews 1:8-10 (HNV) 8 but of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows." 10 And, "You, Lord, in the beginning, laid the foundation of the eretz. The heavens are the works of your hands. John 20:28-28 (HNV) T'oma answered him, "My Lord and my God!" Titus 2:13-13 (HNV) looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Yeshua the Messiah;
Hey Corey! I'm an avid listener of your channel, as well as many others you have brought on as guest. I came across Young Don's video yesterday and wondered have you seen it? Recollecting on his stance when you all had that discussion.
@@kgar5String Idk off the top of my head. But the way I always identified him was by what he said. Because sometimes it can just be an angel of the Lord. But when he speaks of I and me, then I recognize him as the Lord himself.
revelation/22-17 New International Version “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
God Jehovah is so perfect , so powerful, that He has four perfect angels Seraphim which actually filter our imperfect prayers and make them suitable for presentation to God. The reason that Jesus dates clearly that “ No man has seen God “ and that he himself “ has explained Him” is because We are not capable of being in God’s presence except through the filter of His approved messengers. Jesus being The Word ( Logos) has served and continues to serve as the chief most representative of God to fallen humanity and likewise now serves as the Only Advocate for fallen but repentant humanity before God ( much like the High priest of Israel did before the Ark of the Covenant. In fact The very Voice of God was only heard on earth by living humans on Three occasions.
Beloved, Be Holy! SOBER! Vigilant! And Pure in Spirit! Be Born Again! In Power, Love, and MOST importantly! A Sound Mind! Delay IS Disobedience! Amen! 🙏 Thus said the LORD! LOVE the Lord! FEAR the Lord! LOVE One Another! Simple! Thank you HolySpirit! 🕊
The angel of the Lord In Revelation 22:9, the angel of Jesus refuses worship but go on to speak of the Alpha and Omega. This style of speech shows the angel talks on behalf of Christ. It is Jesus who is Alpha and Omega, not his angel. Jesus has an angel close to Him and he sends that angel. In Hebrews 1:13, Paul writes that Jesus was not an angel, thus, concluding that the angel of the Lord is Jesus makes Him an angel. The angel of the Lord is an angel and Jesus is not an angel. If Jesus is the angel of the Lord, there is no room to have the physical presence of the angel when Christ is in the same picture: (i) The mystery of the angel of the Lord is seen when he appears when Jesus is born and he comes with the glory of the Lord (Luke 2:9), (ii) the angel of the Lord warning Joseph in dreams (Matthew 2:13), and (iii) the angel of the Lord descending from heaven when Jesus resurrected (Matthew 28:2). If Jesus is the angel of the Lord, how does he appear in the same scene as a baby and an angel? It's not possible. Here is another mystery, Peter knew Jesus and when the angel of the Lord came, he could have called him Jesus but he didn't (Acts 12:7). Jesus is not the angel of the Lord. In Acts 8:26, the angel of the Lord also speaks to Phillip and there is no record of anyone seeing Jesus except Paul alone on the road to Damascus. In the Old Testament, the angel of the Lord appears in Zechariah 3:3-6 and he goes on to quote the words of the Lord of hosts. The words the angel receives are not His but from God. This is much visible when Moses saw the burning bush. In Exodus 3:2-4, the angel of the Lord appeared to Moses in a flame of fire then the Lord sees that Moses has turned aside and calls him. This angel stands in the presence of God. Gabriel struck Zacharias with deafness and Gabriel stands in the presence of the Lord. Jesus has an angel, who is that angel? That angel is Gabriel. Jesus is not an angel and never was. An angel is angel. Jesus is Yahweh the Lord, not the angel of the Lord. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Revelation 22:9.......... I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Revelation 22:13............ I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. Revelation 22:16. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Hebrews 1:13. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. Luke 2:9. And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. Matthew 2:13. And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. Matthew 28:2. And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands. Acts 12:7. And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. Acts 8:26. And the angel of the LORD protested unto Joshua, saying, Zechariah 3:6, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by. Zechariah 3:7. And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. Exodus 3:2, and And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. Exodus 3:4. And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. Luke 1:19.
With everything you’ve said, you’ve missed the mark quite a bit. Even in our KJV, a clear distinction between “an angel (of the LORD)” and THE ANGEL OF THE LORD. Those entities are not the same. If you read passages that have the latter, you’ll see how that entity always receiving worship (which should only be ascribed to God) while angels refuse worship. P.S: the angel in Rev 22:9 is not The Angel of the Lord; it is ‘an angel’; while it can seem like every appearance of an angel is the same throughout Scripture, based on what happens when they show up or what they say, we can make clear distinctions.
@@elciscoplummer3255 Does this apply to the angel in the bush? "And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire." Hebrews 1:7 Now see Acts 7:29-30, "Then fled Moses at this saying, and was a stranger in the land of Madian, where he begat two sons. And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush."
For unto which of the angels did God say This is my son. It is clear that God never called any angel his son. But it is also clear that if we substitute the word angel with messenger, then we can safely say that it is speaking about Jesus.
King James Bible Zechariah 1:12 Then the angel of the LORD answered and said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years?
@Tee M I really don't know what to make out of it yet. The proper word is messenger, not angel. Regardless , It truly is a deep study. I'd rather stay neutral until I get a greater Understanding. Nevertheless, Corey is a smart Christian.
@@reynaldoperez7285 a messenger is an angel. Jesus is not an angel. Angel of the Lord is angel because there is the word 'angel' in there. Last week Corey said a person that commits suicide while saved will go to heaven. You believe that?
Wow. This is so weird, but I was reading my Bible and kept reading the Angel of the Lord, and my thought was, is this an actual angel, is this God?? There is my answer, thank you!
if the angel of the lord is God that means God is a subject to himself which goes to modalism. Genesis 16 Because "The Lord" not I. The angel of the Lord speaks on behalf of God not that he is God. in Exodus 3 the angel of the lord appeared as a fire but the Lord who spoke .Zechariah 1;12. was the angel talking to himself?
If the Angel of the Lord is the son, then the father has dominion over the son. I'm not saying the son is less than the father, just subservient in the obedience definition
I believe God has 3 divisions of Himself, which we all can relate,,, I do believe tho, angel of the LORD, Lord and like Zechariah 4:4-5, were angel of lord is in full lower caps, like an ordinary angel,,,, So,, it does NOT always stand for The 3 part Godhead of the Trinity,, There’s real no way around it,,, You need to understand and follow the context,,,
God is an angel now? Man, I need to keep up... I'm still stuck on what the bible says: Angels are messengers sent by God to speak on his behalf. So when the angel of the YHWH said to Satan :"may YHWH rebuke you", he was actually meaning "I rebuke you"? (Zec3) Sorry, that's several bridges too far for me. Although I do like the fact that Michael the archangel uses EXACTLY the same words to Satan later on.. almost like the angel of YHWH and Michael share exactly the same word choice and sentence structure...🤔 (jude9)
@@sisterbecky411 Manoah response shows that it is directly God; because that is who Manoah was referring to, the Angel of the Lord. My version is NASB 1995.
@@sisterbecky411 Judges 13:22-And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God. 23- But his wife said unto him, If the Lord were pleased to kill us, he would not have received a burnt offering and a meat offering at our hands, neither would he have shewed us all these things, nor would as at this time have told us such things as these. According to scripture it was God, so your common sense thing doesn’t mean anything, God doesn’t work by common sense. You don’t go by what you assume and apply your own assumptions to the text, you take it for what it actually says
@@sisterbecky411 Genesis 31:11- And the angel of God spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob: And I said, Here am I. 13- I am the God of Beth-el, where thou anointedst the pillar, and where thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred. You can’t get more clear than that, the angel directly saying that he’s God to Jacob. That’s also why later on Jacob says God was the Angel who redeemed him, because he had already revealed it to him. But that’s why it’s important to also look at other places where the angel of the Lord reveals himself as God. Judges 2:1- And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you. And when the angel of the Lord appears to Gideon it reveals clearly that it’s God himself Judges 6:12- And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him, and said unto him, The Lord is with thee, thou mighty man of valour. Judges 6:14- And the Lord looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and thou shalt save Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent thee? Judges 6:16- And the Lord said unto him, Surely I will be with thee, and thou shalt smite the Midianites as one man. So it’s clear that it’s the Lord himself who is looking and speaking directly to Gideon. You also have the angel of the Lord revealing himself as God to Abraham and Hagar. That’s why the context of what’s being said is important
@@sisterbecky411 God is telling the prophets what to write, correct? By that assessment, God had the prophets to write down this detail you see in “Judges 13:21-23,” and if it weren’t true, God would had told the prophet to not jot it down.
Judges 13 20 For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the Lord ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground. (Preincarnate Christ ) 21 But the angel of the Lord did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the Lord. 22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God. To say hi to God you would have to say hi 3 times to the Father the Son the Holyghost 1 John 5 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The term theophany was introduced to succinctly describe the manifest presence of God to men in the old testament. The angel of the Lord is a prime example, there are also others that are no less than marvelous. There is Melchizedek, Priest of the Most High God. Among the three men that appeared to Abraham, two were angels, the other was Almighty God, Jesus Christ. In the new testament we have God manifested to men, in an body made like unto men, Emanuel, or God with us. This is Jesus the Christ of God. Great is the mystery of godliness, God was manifest in the flesh, seen of men, received up into glory. This was not a theophany.
Am I hearing that right, the "the angel of the Lord" is God ? How can God be his own creator ? Angels (Hebrew malakh, Greek aggelos that literally means "messenger") are that which is created, those who carry out his word, and NOT the Creator. How many have read Psalms 103:20, 21, that says: "Praise Jehovah (God's name, see Isa 12:2, KJV), all you HIS angels, mighty in power, who carry out HIS word, obeying his voice. Praise Jehovah, all his armies, HIS ministers who do HIS will." Psalms 104:1, 4 says: "Let me praise Jehovah. O Jehovah my God, you are very great. With majesty and splendor you are clothed. He makes his angels (invisible) spirits, His ministers a consuming fire (that have superhuman powers)". At Isaiah 37, when King Sennacherib of Assyria was threatening Jerusalem with "conquest" (Isa 37:9-13), King Hezekiah of the two tribe kingdom of Judah prayed to Jehovah, saying: "O Jehovah of armies, the God of Israel, sitting enthroned above the cherubs (or angels that stand near before Jehovah, angels of high rank, see Luke 1:19), you ALONE are the true God of all the kingdoms of the earth." "You made the heavens and the earth. Incline your ear, O Jehovah, and hear ! Open your eyes, O Jehovah, and see! Hear all the words that Sen·nachʹer·ib has sent to taunt the living God........But now, O Jehovah our God, save us out of his hand, so that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you alone are God, O Jehovah.”(Isa 37:16, 17, 20) How did Jehovah respond to Hezekiah's plea for protection ? Isaiah 37:33-36 states:"Therefore this is what Jehovah says about the king of As·syrʹi·a: “He will not come into this city or shoot an arrow there or confront it with a shield or cast up a siege rampart against it." "By the way he came he will return; He will not come into this city,’ declares Jehovah. ‘ I will defend this city and save it for my own sake and for the sake of my servant David." And the angel of Jehovah went out and struck down 185,000 men in the camp of the As·syrʹi·ans. When people rose up early in the morning, they saw all the dead bodies." But there is one angel that spoke as if he was Jehovah God, as his premier representative, as "the Word" or chief spokesman, and this angel is Jesus Christ, who is also called "a god" and NOT "the God" at John 1:1. At Exodus 3, when Moses was shepherding some sheep at Mt Sinai or Horeb, the account says: "Then Jehovah’s angel appeared to him in a flame of fire in the midst of a thornbush. As he kept looking, he saw that the thornbush was on fire, and yet the thornbush was not consumed." "So Moses said: “I will go over to inspect this unusual sight to see why the thornbush does not burn up.” When Jehovah saw that he went over to look, God called to him out of the thornbush and said: “Moses ! Moses !” to which he said: “Here I am.” Then he said: “Do not come any nearer. Remove your sandals from your feet, because the place where you are standing is holy ground.”(Ex 3:2-5) How many have read what the apostle Paul wrote at 1 Corinthians 10, that says: "Now I want you to know, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea and all got baptized into Moses by means of the cloud and of the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food and all drank the same spiritual drink (during their 40 year trek in the wilderness, see Ps 95:10)). For they used to drink from the spiritual rock (or angel) that followed them (see Ex 14:19), and that rock meant the Christ" ?(1 Cor 10:1-4) So, Jesus is Jehovah's "messenger of the covenant" at Malachi 3:1, Jehovah's "personal messenger" at Isaiah 63:9, the angel who materialized and spoke to David at 2 Samuel 7:18-29, who humbled himself and became a man of flesh and blood (see Phil 2:7, 8) in order to become "the last Adam" (1 Cor 15:45), replacing the original Adam as obedient mankind's "Eternal Father" (Isa 9:6), so that "when the full limit of the time arrived, God sent his Son, who was born of a woman and who was under law, that he might release by purchase those under law (or the Jews), so that we might receive the adoption as sons."(Gal 4:4, 5)
Missing the whole point. Jesus is eternal and was called The Angel of the Lord in the old testament. Not a creation but the Creator. Jesus has different names. Everlasting Father, Prince of peace, Son of God...
@@darthjedi99 Jesus is NOT eternal but had a beginning, as Revelation 2:18 and 3:14 shows: "To the angel of the congregation in Thy·a·tiʹra write: These are the things that the Son of God says.......To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen says (see 2 Cor 1:20), the faithful and true witness (see Rev 1:5), the beginning ("beginning", Greek arche meaning: "properly a commencement") of the creation by God." And have you not read Colossians 1:13-16: "He (God, whose name is Jehovah, see Isa 12:2, KJV) rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son, by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins." "He (Jesus Christ) is the image ("image", Greek eikon, meaning "a likeness, i.e. a statue, profile, representation, resemblance") of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN of all creation; because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities." Proverbs 8 also shows that Jesus is "the beginning of the creation by God", saying: "Jehovah produced ("produced", Hebrew qanah meaning "to erect, i.e. create, to procure") me (Jesus Christ) as the beginning of his way, the earliest ("earliest", Hebrew qedem meaning "the front, of place or time") of his achievements of long ago." "From ancient times I was installed ("installed", Hebrew nacak meaning "to pour out, by analogy, to anoint a king"), from the start, from times earlier ("earlier", Hebrew ro'sh meaning "the head, of place, time, rank") than the earth. When there were no deep waters, I was brought forth, when there were no springs overflowing with water." "Before the mountains were set in place, before the hills, I was brought forth, when he had not yet made the earth and its fields.......When he prepared the heavens, I was there........When he established the foundations of the earth, then I was beside him as a master worker ("master worker", Hebrew amon meaning "skilled, i.e. an architect")." "I was the one he was especially fond of day by day (as Jehovah's "only-begotten Son", John 3:16, in which to begat means "to be the father of a child"); I rejoiced before him all the time; I rejoiced over his habitable earth, and I was especially fond of the sons of men."(Prov 8:22-31) And have not read 2 Corinthians 1:3, that says: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ", as well as Ephesians 1:3 that says: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ", as well as 1 Peter 1:3 that says: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ", establishing Jesus as having a father, Jehovah God, a beginning, for he often called on Jehovah as his (and our) heavenly Father, saying: "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved." "All things have been handed over ("handed over", Greek paradidomi meaning "to surrender, i.e. yield up") to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him."(Matt 11:25-27) And at Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is called "Everlasting Father", because it is through his ransom sacrifice that obedient mankind will receive everlasting life, with Jesus having replaced the original Adam as obedient mankind's "father", for 1 Corinthians 15:45 states: "So it is written (at Gen 2:7): “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." As a "life-giving spirit", Jesus will apply his perfect shed blood in behalf of those who exercise faith in it, as 1 John 1:7 says that "if we are walking in the light as he (Jesus Christ) himself is in the light, we do have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin." So, Jesus is NOT eternal as in having no beginning, but rather Jesus will be obedient mankind's "Eternal Father", as Romans 3:23-25 states: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and it is as a free gift that they are being declared righteous by his undeserved kindness through the release by the ransom paid by Christ Jesus. God presented him as an offering for propitiation (or a sacrifice that covers obedient one's sins) through faith in his blood." And yes, Jesus was called "the angel of his presence" at Isaiah 63:9 (King James Bible), as Jehovah's "personal messenger" (New World Translation), because Jesus is "the Word", or Jehovah's chief spokesman (John 1:1), and was the angel or created being, that released the Israelites from Egyptian slavery and led them through the 40 year trek in the wilderness.(1 Cor 10:1-4)
@@paxChristi123 It is obvious that you have NOT read your Bible carefully, for at Colossians 1, the apostle Paul wrote: "He (God) rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son (Jesus Christ), by means of whom we have our release by ransom (Matt 20:28), the forgiveness of our sins (1 John 1:7). He (Jesus Christ) is the image ("image", Greek eikon, meaning "a likeness, .i.e. statue, profile, representation, resemblance") of the invisible God (John 14:9), the firstborn of all creation."(Col 1:13-15) At Revelation 2:18, the apostle John writes: "To the angel of the congregation in Thy·a·tiʹra write: These are the things that the Son of God says, the one who has eyes like a fiery flame and whose feet are like fine copper." Then at chapter 3, Jesus now says: "The one who conquers-I (Jesus Christ) will make him a pillar in the temple of MY God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of MY God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name." "Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’ To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen (Jesus Christ, see 2 Cor 1:20) says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God."(Rev 3:12-14) At John 20, on the morning of his resurrection, Jesus told Mary Magdalene, who grabbed hold of Jesus when she recognized he was alive: "Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to MY Father and your Father and to MY God and your God."(John 20:17) At 1 Cor 11:3, the apostle Paul wrote: "But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the HEAD of the Christ is God." At Proverbs 8:22, 23, Jesus says concerning being God's "wisdom": "Jehovah (God's name, see Isa 12:2, KJV) produced ("produced", Hebrew qanah, meaning "to erect, i.e. create, to procure") me as the beginning ("beginning", Hebrew re'shiyth, meaning "the first, in place, time, order or rank"; see Gen 1:1, which "in the beginning" or be re'shiyth) of his way, the earliest ("earliest", Hebrew qedem, meaning "the front, of place (absolutely the fore part) or time") of his achievements of long ago. From ancient times I was installed, from the start ("start", Hebrew ro'sh, meaning "the head, of place, time, rank, etc), from times earlier than the earth." And at John 6:56, 57, Jesus told the obstinate Jews: "Whoever (symbolically) feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. Just as the living Father sent me ("sent me" Greek apostello, meaning "to send out on a mission") and I live because of the Father (or through the Father I am alive, just as we all are alive because we have a father), so also the one who feeds on me will live because of me (or through me, when they exercise faith in Jesus, see John 3:16)." At 2 Corinthians 1:3, the apostle Paul wrote:"Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort". At Ephesians 1:3, Paul wrote: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ". And at 1 Peter 1:3, the apostle Peter wrote: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead." So, Jesus has a father, Jehovah, had a beginning, is Jehovah's firstborn. It is Jehovah God that is "from everlasting to everlasting", having had no beginning.(Ps 90:2) It is the "weeds" or counterfeit Christians of Christendom that has taught (or lied) that Jesus is God.(Matt 13:24-30) So, it is Christendom that are the heretics.(see Acts 24:5, in which the apostle Paul was wrongly called a "heretic" or "the spearhead of the SECT of the Nazarenes")
@@paxChristi123 Jesus is an angel, that was created by Jehovah God, for at Galatians 4:14, the apostle Paul wrote: "And though my physical condition was a trial for you (the Galatian Christians), you did not treat me with contempt or disgust; but you received me like an angel of God, like Christ Jesus." At Luke 8, a demon cried out to Jesus when he was about to be expelled from a man they possessed: "What have I to do with you, Jesus, Son of the Most High God ? I beg you, do not torment me."(Luke 8:26-28) So, Jesus is Jehovah's "only-begotten Son" (John 3:16), an angel or his "personal messenger", "angel of his presence" (Isa 63:9, KJV), "Son of the Most High", Jehovah God.(see Ps 83:18)
!! WOW !! I am so shocked. We know that GOD has no beginning and no end. In Gen 2:1 "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." Who are the host that have been created in the heavens? ANGELS. GOD and JESUS are NOT a CREATED being. Angels are.
The angel of the Lord is not the Lord. He is the Lord's personal messenger and spokesman and has the authority to speak and act directly for the Lord. Matt 1:20 and 2:13, the angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph after Jesus had been conceived and then after He had been born. He would not be then appearing at the same time to Joseph in a dream as the angel of the Lord.
@@paxChristi123 Matthew 28 2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. 3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: 4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men. 5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
So Jesus is an angel? Then Hebrews 1:8 is wrong. Right, Corey? Gabriel stands in the presence of God. If you observe how Gabriel speaks in Revelation 22, you will see that Gabriel speaks as God but he is just Gabriel. Read here - Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Revelation 22:9 and I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Revelation 22:13. Is this angel Alpha and Omega? Then you got what's the angel
@@kgar5String you are funny angel of the Lord means angel. That angel appeara when Jesus was born and when he resurrected. He can't be both. He is misleading people. Last week Corey said people that commit suicide will go to heaven if they were saved. That's his defense for eternal security.
@@teem311 why he can't ,is it because you can not wrap your mind around the power of God ? All things are possible with God ,one being ,is that he can be many places at one time ,
The deception that Satan uses is to change names and terminology. This causes confusion. The word angel means messenger in Hebrew. The title Lord was used to replace the name YAHWEH by the spirit of Satan. It was YAHWEH WHO appeared to Hagar and Moses. YAHWEH is the MESSENGER of the Covenant who came as YAHSHUA (JESUS). YAHWEH MEANS "Everlasting " (I Am). YAHSHUA means Everlasting Saviour. This is what the churches do not understand because Satan has blinded the eyes of people by removing inspired names out of the bible and creating fake images of CHRIST (ANOINTED ONE) YAHWEH IS YAHSHUA THE ANOINTED WORD OF GOD. YAHWEH became flesh and tabernacled with HIS People. YAHWEH IS THE LOGOS (expression/communicator) of the GODHEAD. HE came and dwelt amongst HIS people. To have a relationship with HIM, repent, turn away from sin, love HIM, and obey HIM. This is what HE Said. This is what believe really means. Believe what the eternal God said, through HIS word.
Jesus is God. No trinity. Jesus is the Father. Jesus is One God with many.many titles and names. Jesus is The Holy Spirit. Jesus is Immanuel. Jesus is Wonderful. Jesus is Everlasting Father. Jesus is Alpha. Jesus is the Omega. Jesus is Lord. Jesus is Yahweh. Jesus is Jehovah. Jesus is I AM. Jesus is Jealous...just to name a few.
Anyone willing to logically and intelligently debate the idea of God and what God is? I do not believe the Bible is the word of God, but rather the word of ego attempting to describe god. If you can not know God without the Bible, how can you trust the many authors that wrote the Bible without the Bible to learn from? I can provide evidence of what I know God to be that can be experienced and not reliant upon faith or belief for "proof".
@@darthjedi99 every human has an ego that can not be ridded of, so what's your point? Trying to insult someone with ignorance? Not a good look. Why not try to comprehend what I am attempting to discuss?
The why Jesus said no one see the FATHER. One who sees the Son sees The Father.. all along from the old the testament this famous THE Angel of the Lord is always the Son.
The Angel of the Lord passages are awesome OT mysteries that suddenly make sense in light of the NT revelation of the Trinity!
How does that prove Trinity?
@@ashenafiashenafi4605 “Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the Lord out of heaven.”
Genesis 19:24
This “Lord” was one of the angels that appeared to Abraham as a human
@@ProvingChristianity so the LORD is one then. If it is one of the angels that appeared to Abraham. Two of them are not the LORD. Whenever Genesis uses interchangeably the Angel of The LORD and the LORD, it is because the Angel bears the name of God, it is not because the Angel is God. Therefore the Scriptures in the Old Testament related to this subject don’t prove Trinity. Trinity is humans trying to add their own tradition to the scriptures.
Zechariah 1:12
New International Version
12 Then the angel of the Lord said, “Lord Almighty, how long will you withhold mercy from Jerusalem and from the towns of Judah, which you have been angry with these seventy years?”
How is the Angel of the Lord, God, but also speaks to God?
Because the Angel of the Lord also speaks as Yahweh himself.
It proves the Trinity.
@@ashenafiashenafi4605The Angel of the Lord is GOD!
Judges 6:11-23. The angel of the Lord appears to Gideon, and in verse 22 Gideon fears for his life because he has seen the angel of the Lord face to face, which is similar to when others in the Tanakh (Old Testament) fear they will die because they have seen God
New International Version
◄ Revelation 22:16 ►
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel
Amen & Amen🕊️
Hallelujah and Amen 🙏 ❤️🔥
When it says Angel of the Lord in caps it's incarnation Jesus. This Angel of the Lord received worship and had the appearance of the Son of God. There is a difference between a angel and the Angel of the Lord. Great teaching Cory!
Yes!! "Angel of the LORD" with LORD in caps means Jehovah. Other mentions of Angel of the Lord where Lord is not in caps is referring to an angel ie Gabriel. LORD in caps is never used when describing Gabriel or other angels. It's a big difference that can be easily missed.
♥ Angel 😇 of the LORD! ♥
How Blessed We are! We are Mighty in Christ Jesus! AMEN! 🕊 ♥ Jesus is LORD! ♥
Amen thank you!!!!
Another great lesson.
Blessed Clarification, Praise God 👏!
Good point my brother.
I learn a lot from you Corey! God bless you! 🙏🏾❤️
Whenever I read “Angel Of The Lord” or “Word Of The Lord” in the OT I immediately think the pre incarnate JESUS
@@sisterbecky411 do you??
@@sisterbecky411 Yeshua refers to himself as the Almighty in Revelations
@@sisterbecky411 I agree that God wasn’t born for He is eternal so yes the Mashiach was the son of God, but who was in him was God.
1 John 4:2-3 (HNV) 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit who confesses that Yeshua the Messiah has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit who doesn't confess that Yeshua the Messiah has come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the anti-messiah, of whom you have heard that it comes. Now it is in the world already.
1 Timothy 3:16-16 (HNV) Without controversy, the mystery of godliness is great: God was revealed in the flesh, Justified in the spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the nations, Believed on in the world, And received up in glory.
@@sisterbecky411 Wow sisterbecky!! A whole entire editorial!!!! So just don't regard what Jesus plainly said when He said: I and my Father are one?? Read John 17th chapter and yell me what you think.
@@sisterbecky411 How do you handle these scriptures?
Hebrews 1:8-10 (HNV) 8 but of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows." 10 And, "You, Lord, in the beginning, laid the foundation of the eretz. The heavens are the works of your hands.
John 20:28-28 (HNV) T'oma answered him, "My Lord and my God!"
Titus 2:13-13 (HNV) looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Yeshua the Messiah;
Amen!
Hey Corey! I'm an avid listener of your channel, as well as many others you have brought on as guest. I came across Young Don's video yesterday and wondered have you seen it? Recollecting on his stance when you all had that discussion.
The angel of the Lord depends on context but is usually our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!!!
What is the other time that it wasn’t God?
@@kgar5String Idk off the top of my head. But the way I always identified him was by what he said. Because sometimes it can just be an angel of the Lord. But when he speaks of I and me, then I recognize him as the Lord himself.
Could you possibly give your view of who or possibly what Melchizedek is?
I was wondering this the other day 🤔
That's why paul said following the dietary law feast days and sabbath is worshipping an angel colossians 2 16 18 niv
Thank you brother Corey. I really appreciate your teaching ♥️
Psalm 18:31 for who is God besides the Lord? And who is the 🪨 Rock except our God. I love you Lord ✝️❤️💪🏾
The Angel of the LORD = Jesus!
revelation/22-17
New International Version
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel
to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
I always felt he was Jesus
God Jehovah is so perfect , so powerful, that He has four perfect angels Seraphim which actually filter our imperfect prayers and make them suitable for presentation to God. The reason that Jesus dates clearly that “ No man has seen God “ and that he himself “ has explained Him” is because We are not capable of being in God’s presence except through the filter of His approved messengers. Jesus being The Word ( Logos) has served and continues to serve as the chief most representative of God to fallen humanity and likewise now serves as the Only Advocate for fallen but repentant humanity before God ( much like the High priest of Israel did before the Ark of the Covenant. In fact The very Voice of God was only heard on earth by living humans on Three occasions.
Beloved, Be Holy! SOBER! Vigilant! And Pure in Spirit! Be Born Again! In Power, Love, and MOST importantly! A Sound Mind! Delay IS Disobedience! Amen! 🙏
Thus said the LORD! LOVE the Lord! FEAR the Lord! LOVE One Another! Simple!
Thank you HolySpirit! 🕊
The angel of the Lord
In Revelation 22:9, the angel of Jesus refuses worship but go on to speak of the Alpha and Omega. This style of speech shows the angel talks on behalf of Christ. It is Jesus who is Alpha and Omega, not his angel. Jesus has an angel close to Him and he sends that angel. In Hebrews 1:13, Paul writes that Jesus was not an angel, thus, concluding that the angel of the Lord is Jesus makes Him an angel. The angel of the Lord is an angel and Jesus is not an angel. If Jesus is the angel of the Lord, there is no room to have the physical presence of the angel when Christ is in the same picture: (i) The mystery of the angel of the Lord is seen when he appears when Jesus is born and he comes with the glory of the Lord (Luke 2:9), (ii) the angel of the Lord warning Joseph in dreams (Matthew 2:13), and (iii) the angel of the Lord descending from heaven when Jesus resurrected (Matthew 28:2). If Jesus is the angel of the Lord, how does he appear in the same scene as a baby and an angel? It's not possible.
Here is another mystery, Peter knew Jesus and when the angel of the Lord came, he could have called him Jesus but he didn't (Acts 12:7). Jesus is not the angel of the Lord. In Acts 8:26, the angel of the Lord also speaks to Phillip and there is no record of anyone seeing Jesus except Paul alone on the road to Damascus.
In the Old Testament, the angel of the Lord appears in Zechariah 3:3-6 and he goes on to quote the words of the Lord of hosts. The words the angel receives are not His but from God. This is much visible when Moses saw the burning bush. In Exodus 3:2-4, the angel of the Lord appeared to Moses in a flame of fire then the Lord sees that Moses has turned aside and calls him. This angel stands in the presence of God. Gabriel struck Zacharias with deafness and Gabriel stands in the presence of the Lord. Jesus has an angel, who is that angel? That angel is Gabriel. Jesus is not an angel and never was. An angel is angel. Jesus is Yahweh the Lord, not the angel of the Lord.
Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Revelation 22:9.......... I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Revelation 22:13............ I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. Revelation 22:16.
But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Hebrews 1:13.
And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. Luke 2:9.
And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. Matthew 2:13.
And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. Matthew 28:2.
And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands. Acts 12:7.
And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. Acts 8:26.
And the angel of the LORD protested unto Joshua, saying, Zechariah 3:6, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by. Zechariah 3:7.
And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. Exodus 3:2, and And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. Exodus 3:4.
And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. Luke 1:19.
With everything you’ve said, you’ve missed the mark quite a bit. Even in our KJV, a clear distinction between “an angel (of the LORD)” and THE ANGEL OF THE LORD. Those entities are not the same. If you read passages that have the latter, you’ll see how that entity always receiving worship (which should only be ascribed to God) while angels refuse worship.
P.S: the angel in Rev 22:9 is not The Angel of the Lord; it is ‘an angel’; while it can seem like every appearance of an angel is the same throughout Scripture, based on what happens when they show up or what they say, we can make clear distinctions.
@@elciscoplummer3255 Does this apply to the angel in the bush?
"And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire." Hebrews 1:7
Now see Acts 7:29-30,
"Then fled Moses at this saying, and was a stranger in the land of Madian, where he begat two sons.
And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush."
For unto which of the angels did God say
This is my son.
It is clear that God never called any angel his son.
But it is also clear that if we substitute the word angel with messenger, then we can safely say that it is speaking about Jesus.
They don't see that. They don't want to make angel from the angel of the Lord.
King James Bible Zechariah 1:12
Then the angel of the LORD answered and
said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou
not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the
cities of Judah, against which thou hast had
indignation these threescore and ten years?
@@reynaldoperez7285 yes, the angel of the Lord is a special angel, not Jesus. Carnal people mix scripture up to teach lies.
@Tee M
I really don't know what to make out of it yet.
The proper word is messenger, not angel. Regardless ,
It truly is a deep study.
I'd rather stay neutral until I get a greater
Understanding.
Nevertheless, Corey is a smart Christian.
@@reynaldoperez7285 a messenger is an angel. Jesus is not an angel. Angel of the Lord is angel because there is the word 'angel' in there. Last week Corey said a person that commits suicide while saved will go to heaven. You believe that?
I had a pastor once that said the angel of the lord is Jesus. This is why I got curious!
Wow. This is so weird, but I was reading my Bible and kept reading the Angel of the Lord, and my thought was, is this an actual angel, is this God?? There is my answer, thank you!
if the angel of the lord is God that means God is a subject to himself which goes to modalism. Genesis 16 Because "The Lord" not I. The angel of the Lord speaks on behalf of God not that he is God. in Exodus 3 the angel of the lord appeared as a fire but the Lord who spoke .Zechariah 1;12. was the angel talking to himself?
If the Angel of the Lord is the son, then the father has dominion over the son.
I'm not saying the son is less than the father, just subservient in the obedience definition
I believe God has 3 divisions of Himself, which we all can relate,,,
I do believe tho, angel of the LORD, Lord and like Zechariah 4:4-5, were angel of lord is in full lower caps, like an ordinary angel,,,, So,, it does NOT always stand for The 3 part Godhead of the Trinity,,
There’s real no way around it,,, You need to understand and follow the context,,,
God is an angel now?
Man, I need to keep up... I'm still stuck on what the bible says: Angels are messengers sent by God to speak on his behalf.
So when the angel of the YHWH said to Satan :"may YHWH rebuke you", he was actually meaning "I rebuke you"? (Zec3)
Sorry, that's several bridges too far for me.
Although I do like the fact that Michael the archangel uses EXACTLY the same words to Satan later on.. almost like the angel of YHWH and Michael share exactly the same word choice and sentence structure...🤔 (jude9)
1 thing is for sure, angel of the lord said he is the god of bethel.
Judges 13: 21-22 directly states the Angel of the Lord is God; haven’t seen the video yet so sorry if Bro. Corey already used this verse. 😂
@@sisterbecky411 Manoah response shows that it is directly God; because that is who Manoah was referring to, the Angel of the Lord. My version is NASB 1995.
@@sisterbecky411 The problem is it doesn’t say God was speaking through the Angel, so you can’t just add that to the text
@@sisterbecky411 Judges 13:22-And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
23- But his wife said unto him, If the Lord were pleased to kill us, he would not have received a burnt offering and a meat offering at our hands, neither would he have shewed us all these things, nor would as at this time have told us such things as these.
According to scripture it was God, so your common sense thing doesn’t mean anything, God doesn’t work by common sense. You don’t go by what you assume and apply your own assumptions to the text, you take it for what it actually says
@@sisterbecky411 Genesis 31:11- And the angel of God spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob: And I said, Here am I.
13- I am the God of Beth-el, where thou anointedst the pillar, and where thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred.
You can’t get more clear than that, the angel directly saying that he’s God to Jacob. That’s also why later on Jacob says God was the Angel who redeemed him, because he had already revealed it to him. But that’s why it’s important to also look at other places where the angel of the Lord reveals himself as God.
Judges 2:1- And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.
And when the angel of the Lord appears to Gideon it reveals clearly that it’s God himself
Judges 6:12- And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him, and said unto him, The Lord is with thee, thou mighty man of valour.
Judges 6:14- And the Lord looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and thou shalt save Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent thee?
Judges 6:16- And the Lord said unto him, Surely I will be with thee, and thou shalt smite the Midianites as one man.
So it’s clear that it’s the Lord himself who is looking and speaking directly to Gideon. You also have the angel of the Lord revealing himself as God to Abraham and Hagar. That’s why the context of what’s being said is important
@@sisterbecky411 God is telling the prophets what to write, correct? By that assessment, God had the prophets to write down this detail you see in “Judges 13:21-23,” and if it weren’t true, God would had told the prophet to not jot it down.
I’ve always had in my mind .. the Angel of the Lord was the Spirit of God.❤
Judges 13 20 For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the Lord ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground.
(Preincarnate Christ )
21 But the angel of the Lord did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the Lord.
22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
To say hi to God you would have to say hi 3 times to the Father the Son the Holyghost
1 John 5 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The term theophany was introduced to succinctly describe the manifest presence of God to men in the old testament.
The angel of the Lord is a prime example, there are also others that are no less than marvelous.
There is Melchizedek, Priest of the Most High God.
Among the three men that appeared to Abraham, two were angels, the other was Almighty God, Jesus Christ.
In the new testament we have God manifested to men, in an body made like unto men, Emanuel, or God with us. This is Jesus the Christ of God.
Great is the mystery of godliness, God was manifest in the flesh, seen of men, received up into glory.
This was not a theophany.
Am I hearing that right, the "the angel of the Lord" is God ? How can God be his own creator ? Angels (Hebrew malakh, Greek aggelos that literally means "messenger") are that which is created, those who carry out his word, and NOT the Creator.
How many have read Psalms 103:20, 21, that says: "Praise Jehovah (God's name, see Isa 12:2, KJV), all you HIS angels, mighty in power, who carry out HIS word, obeying his voice. Praise Jehovah, all his armies, HIS ministers who do HIS will."
Psalms 104:1, 4 says: "Let me praise Jehovah. O Jehovah my God, you are very great. With majesty and splendor you are clothed. He makes his angels (invisible) spirits, His ministers a consuming fire (that have superhuman powers)".
At Isaiah 37, when King Sennacherib of Assyria was threatening Jerusalem with "conquest" (Isa 37:9-13), King Hezekiah of the two tribe kingdom of Judah prayed to Jehovah, saying: "O Jehovah of armies, the God of Israel, sitting enthroned above the cherubs (or angels that stand near before Jehovah, angels of high rank, see Luke 1:19), you ALONE are the true God of all the kingdoms of the earth."
"You made the heavens and the earth. Incline your ear, O Jehovah, and hear ! Open your eyes, O Jehovah, and see! Hear all the words that Sen·nachʹer·ib has sent to taunt the living God........But now, O Jehovah our God, save us out of his hand, so that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you alone are God, O Jehovah.”(Isa 37:16, 17, 20)
How did Jehovah respond to Hezekiah's plea for protection ? Isaiah 37:33-36 states:"Therefore this is what Jehovah says about the king of As·syrʹi·a: “He will not come into this city or shoot an arrow there or confront it with a shield or cast up a siege rampart against it."
"By the way he came he will return; He will not come into this city,’ declares Jehovah. ‘ I will defend this city and save it for my own sake and for the sake of my servant David." And the angel of Jehovah went out and struck down 185,000 men in the camp of the As·syrʹi·ans. When people rose up early in the morning, they saw all the dead bodies."
But there is one angel that spoke as if he was Jehovah God, as his premier representative, as "the Word" or chief spokesman, and this angel is Jesus Christ, who is also called "a god" and NOT "the God" at John 1:1. At Exodus 3, when Moses was shepherding some sheep at Mt Sinai or Horeb, the account says: "Then Jehovah’s angel appeared to him in a flame of fire in the midst of a thornbush. As he kept looking, he saw that the thornbush was on fire, and yet the thornbush was not consumed."
"So Moses said: “I will go over to inspect this unusual sight to see why the thornbush does not burn up.” When Jehovah saw that he went over to look, God called to him out of the thornbush and said: “Moses ! Moses !” to which he said: “Here I am.” Then he said: “Do not come any nearer. Remove your sandals from your feet, because the place where you are standing is holy ground.”(Ex 3:2-5)
How many have read what the apostle Paul wrote at 1 Corinthians 10, that says: "Now I want you to know, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea and all got baptized into Moses by means of the cloud and of the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food and all drank the same spiritual drink (during their 40 year trek in the wilderness, see Ps 95:10)). For they used to drink from the spiritual rock (or angel) that followed them (see Ex 14:19), and that rock meant the Christ" ?(1 Cor 10:1-4)
So, Jesus is Jehovah's "messenger of the covenant" at Malachi 3:1, Jehovah's "personal messenger" at Isaiah 63:9, the angel who materialized and spoke to David at 2 Samuel 7:18-29, who humbled himself and became a man of flesh and blood (see Phil 2:7, 8) in order to become "the last Adam" (1 Cor 15:45), replacing the original Adam as obedient mankind's "Eternal Father" (Isa 9:6), so that "when the full limit of the time arrived, God sent his Son, who was born of a woman and who was under law, that he might release by purchase those under law (or the Jews), so that we might receive the adoption as sons."(Gal 4:4, 5)
Missing the whole point. Jesus is eternal and was called The Angel of the Lord in the old testament. Not a creation but the Creator. Jesus has different names. Everlasting Father, Prince of peace, Son of God...
@@darthjedi99
Jesus is NOT eternal but had a beginning, as Revelation 2:18 and 3:14 shows: "To the angel of the congregation in Thy·a·tiʹra write: These are the things that the Son of God says.......To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen says (see 2 Cor 1:20), the faithful and true witness (see Rev 1:5), the beginning ("beginning", Greek arche meaning: "properly a commencement") of the creation by God."
And have you not read Colossians 1:13-16: "He (God, whose name is Jehovah, see Isa 12:2, KJV) rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son, by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins."
"He (Jesus Christ) is the image ("image", Greek eikon, meaning "a likeness, i.e. a statue, profile, representation, resemblance") of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN of all creation; because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities."
Proverbs 8 also shows that Jesus is "the beginning of the creation by God", saying: "Jehovah produced ("produced", Hebrew qanah meaning "to erect, i.e. create, to procure") me (Jesus Christ) as the beginning of his way, the earliest ("earliest", Hebrew qedem meaning "the front, of place or time") of his achievements of long ago."
"From ancient times I was installed ("installed", Hebrew nacak meaning "to pour out, by analogy, to anoint a king"), from the start, from times earlier ("earlier", Hebrew ro'sh meaning "the head, of place, time, rank") than the earth. When there were no deep waters, I was brought forth, when there were no springs overflowing with water."
"Before the mountains were set in place, before the hills, I was brought forth, when he had not yet made the earth and its fields.......When he prepared the heavens, I was there........When he established the foundations of the earth, then I was beside him as a master worker ("master worker", Hebrew amon meaning "skilled, i.e. an architect")."
"I was the one he was especially fond of day by day (as Jehovah's "only-begotten Son", John 3:16, in which to begat means "to be the father of a child"); I rejoiced before him all the time; I rejoiced over his habitable earth, and I was especially fond of the sons of men."(Prov 8:22-31)
And have not read 2 Corinthians 1:3, that says: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ", as well as Ephesians 1:3 that says: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ", as well as 1 Peter 1:3 that says: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ", establishing Jesus as having a father, Jehovah God, a beginning, for he often called on Jehovah as his (and our) heavenly Father, saying:
"I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved."
"All things have been handed over ("handed over", Greek paradidomi meaning "to surrender, i.e. yield up") to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him."(Matt 11:25-27)
And at Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is called "Everlasting Father", because it is through his ransom sacrifice that obedient mankind will receive everlasting life, with Jesus having replaced the original Adam as obedient mankind's "father", for 1 Corinthians 15:45 states: "So it is written (at Gen 2:7): “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit."
As a "life-giving spirit", Jesus will apply his perfect shed blood in behalf of those who exercise faith in it, as 1 John 1:7 says that "if we are walking in the light as he (Jesus Christ) himself is in the light, we do have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin."
So, Jesus is NOT eternal as in having no beginning, but rather Jesus will be obedient mankind's "Eternal Father", as Romans 3:23-25 states: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and it is as a free gift that they are being declared righteous by his undeserved kindness through the release by the ransom paid by Christ Jesus. God presented him as an offering for propitiation (or a sacrifice that covers obedient one's sins) through faith in his blood."
And yes, Jesus was called "the angel of his presence" at Isaiah 63:9 (King James Bible), as Jehovah's "personal messenger" (New World Translation), because Jesus is "the Word", or Jehovah's chief spokesman (John 1:1), and was the angel or created being, that released the Israelites from Egyptian slavery and led them through the 40 year trek in the wilderness.(1 Cor 10:1-4)
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It is obvious that you have NOT read your Bible carefully, for at Colossians 1, the apostle Paul wrote: "He (God) rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son (Jesus Christ), by means of whom we have our release by ransom (Matt 20:28), the forgiveness of our sins (1 John 1:7). He (Jesus Christ) is the image ("image", Greek eikon, meaning "a likeness, .i.e. statue, profile, representation, resemblance") of the invisible God (John 14:9), the firstborn of all creation."(Col 1:13-15)
At Revelation 2:18, the apostle John writes: "To the angel of the congregation in Thy·a·tiʹra write: These are the things that the Son of God says, the one who has eyes like a fiery flame and whose feet are like fine copper." Then at chapter 3, Jesus now says:
"The one who conquers-I (Jesus Christ) will make him a pillar in the temple of MY God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of MY God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name."
"Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’ To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen (Jesus Christ, see 2 Cor 1:20) says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God."(Rev 3:12-14)
At John 20, on the morning of his resurrection, Jesus told Mary Magdalene, who grabbed hold of Jesus when she recognized he was alive: "Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to MY Father and your Father and to MY God and your God."(John 20:17)
At 1 Cor 11:3, the apostle Paul wrote: "But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the HEAD of the Christ is God." At Proverbs 8:22, 23, Jesus says concerning being God's "wisdom":
"Jehovah (God's name, see Isa 12:2, KJV) produced ("produced", Hebrew qanah, meaning "to erect, i.e. create, to procure") me as the beginning ("beginning", Hebrew re'shiyth, meaning "the first, in place, time, order or rank"; see Gen 1:1, which "in the beginning" or be re'shiyth) of his way, the earliest ("earliest", Hebrew qedem, meaning "the front, of place (absolutely the fore part) or time") of his achievements of long ago. From ancient times I was installed, from the start ("start", Hebrew ro'sh, meaning "the head, of place, time, rank, etc), from times earlier than the earth."
And at John 6:56, 57, Jesus told the obstinate Jews: "Whoever (symbolically) feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. Just as the living Father sent me ("sent me" Greek apostello, meaning "to send out on a mission") and I live because of the Father (or through the Father I am alive, just as we all are alive because we have a father), so also the one who feeds on me will live because of me (or through me, when they exercise faith in Jesus, see John 3:16)."
At 2 Corinthians 1:3, the apostle Paul wrote:"Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort". At Ephesians 1:3, Paul wrote: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ".
And at 1 Peter 1:3, the apostle Peter wrote: "Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead."
So, Jesus has a father, Jehovah, had a beginning, is Jehovah's firstborn. It is Jehovah God that is "from everlasting to everlasting", having had no beginning.(Ps 90:2) It is the "weeds" or counterfeit Christians of Christendom that has taught (or lied) that Jesus is God.(Matt 13:24-30) So, it is Christendom that are the heretics.(see Acts 24:5, in which the apostle Paul was wrongly called a "heretic" or "the spearhead of the SECT of the Nazarenes")
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Jesus is an angel, that was created by Jehovah God, for at Galatians 4:14, the apostle Paul wrote: "And though my physical condition was a trial for you (the Galatian Christians), you did not treat me with contempt or disgust; but you received me like an angel of God, like Christ Jesus."
At Luke 8, a demon cried out to Jesus when he was about to be expelled from a man they possessed: "What have I to do with you, Jesus, Son of the Most High God ? I beg you, do not torment me."(Luke 8:26-28) So, Jesus is Jehovah's "only-begotten Son" (John 3:16), an angel or his "personal messenger", "angel of his presence" (Isa 63:9, KJV), "Son of the Most High", Jehovah God.(see Ps 83:18)
!! WOW !! I am so shocked. We know that GOD has no beginning and no end. In Gen 2:1 "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." Who are the host that have been created in the heavens? ANGELS. GOD and JESUS are NOT a CREATED being. Angels are.
The angel of the Lord is not the Lord. He is the Lord's personal messenger and spokesman and has the authority to speak and act directly for the Lord.
Matt 1:20 and 2:13, the angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph after Jesus had been conceived and then after He had been born. He would not be then appearing at the same time to Joseph in a dream as the angel of the Lord.
@@paxChristi123 Matthew 28
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
So Jesus is an angel? Then Hebrews 1:8 is wrong. Right, Corey? Gabriel stands in the presence of God. If you observe how Gabriel speaks in Revelation 22, you will see that Gabriel speaks as God but he is just Gabriel. Read here - Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Revelation 22:9 and I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Revelation 22:13. Is this angel Alpha and Omega? Then you got what's the angel
If you listen, carefully, you realize he never said Gabriel was Jesus just angel of the Lord
@@kgar5String you are funny angel of the Lord means angel. That angel appeara when Jesus was born and when he resurrected. He can't be both. He is misleading people. Last week Corey said people that commit suicide will go to heaven if they were saved. That's his defense for eternal security.
@@teem311 why he can't ,is it because you can not wrap your mind around the power of God ? All things are possible with God ,one being ,is that he can be many places at one time ,
@@arsynoeford9638 there is nothing to wrap mind on that. If God says Jesus is not angel but his son, you can't expect an angel to be Jesus. Good bye
@teem311 that's not what you stated you said that he can't be both ,God can do anything he wants
The deception that Satan uses is to change names and terminology. This causes confusion. The word angel means messenger in Hebrew. The title Lord was used to replace the name YAHWEH by the spirit of Satan. It was YAHWEH WHO appeared to Hagar and Moses. YAHWEH is the MESSENGER of the Covenant who came as YAHSHUA (JESUS). YAHWEH MEANS "Everlasting " (I Am). YAHSHUA means Everlasting Saviour.
This is what the churches do not understand because Satan has blinded the eyes of people by removing inspired names out of the bible and creating fake images of CHRIST (ANOINTED ONE) YAHWEH IS YAHSHUA THE ANOINTED WORD OF GOD.
YAHWEH became flesh and tabernacled with HIS People.
YAHWEH IS THE LOGOS (expression/communicator) of the GODHEAD.
HE came and dwelt amongst HIS people.
To have a relationship with HIM, repent, turn away from sin, love HIM, and obey HIM. This is what HE Said. This is what believe really means. Believe what the eternal God said, through HIS word.
Jesus is God. No trinity. Jesus is the Father. Jesus is One God with many.many titles and names. Jesus is The Holy Spirit. Jesus is Immanuel. Jesus is Wonderful. Jesus is Everlasting Father. Jesus is Alpha. Jesus is the Omega. Jesus is Lord. Jesus is Yahweh. Jesus is Jehovah. Jesus is I AM. Jesus is Jealous...just to name a few.
The Angel of the lord is the Word in John 1:1 in the Old Testament He is Jesus in the new
Anyone willing to logically and intelligently debate the idea of God and what God is? I do not believe the Bible is the word of God, but rather the word of ego attempting to describe god. If you can not know God without the Bible, how can you trust the many authors that wrote the Bible without the Bible to learn from?
I can provide evidence of what I know God to be that can be experienced and not reliant upon faith or belief for "proof".
Look who has a ego
@@darthjedi99 every human has an ego that can not be ridded of, so what's your point? Trying to insult someone with ignorance? Not a good look. Why not try to comprehend what I am attempting to discuss?
@@darthjedi99 what, nothing more to say?
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