BMW E9 3.0 CSi - the 50 year old classic coupé | Tyrrell's Classic Workshop
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- 2021 marks the 50th anniversary of the iconic BMW E9 3.0 CSi coupé. Iain delves in to the history of this model and shares some of the wonderful design features that would be a staple of BMW for years to come. This particular lovely example is in for a service, so Iain gets stuck in with his tools before taking her out on the road to enjoy the fruits of his labour.
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In 1975, I sold my 911 and bought a 73 CSi, lime green and a 4 speed. Drove it to the 76 Monaco GP. Slept on the beach. Got into the race without tickets. Watched the race at the hairpin exit. After the race, our hair was covered with rubber from the F1 cars. Ears were ringing for three days. What a trip!
Most excellent! What a memory :-)
It’s a great Sunday when I wake up in the US and start the morning with Mr Tyrrell.
Ian Tyrell and Harry Metcalfe .... kings of Sunday afternoon ❤️
Yep,sure is :O)
Considering adding retropowercars for a complete English car craft Sunday.
Iain
Both from Wirral too.
Iain being the more mechanically minded of the Sunday afternoon kings!!
This is the most relaxing channel I know. Iain is an absolute gem.
hello
Man, this videos are half an hour and feel shorter than a TV advert. What an amazing job.
If Mr Tyrell were a University Professor, he'd be the most popular Professor on campus (hands down). Thank you for another greatly educational and entertaining video, Mr Tyrell.
My parents had the almost identical vehicle as a newlywed couple.
My father reportedly shed a couple of tears when they traded it on a Opel Rekord station wagon when my mother announced she was pregnant with twins.
My Dad T00!!!
Pale yellow
This guy has the secret. Not sure what it is or even what it is concerning but I want to quit my job and go work for him. He is amazingly centered and projects peace and unity.
Born again Christian apparently
“Brakes are pulling over to the right; we’ll have to have a look at that”
This, my friemds, is why people weite big cheques (I hope) to Mr Tyrell. He’s like a bespoke tailor or better yet, an 1870s London gun maker. Hell, I should be writing him a cheque for this content.
This car was my favourite car in my teenage years back in the 1970‘s.
I really enjoy watching this channel. Not only for the insights it delivers on these old cars and their technology, but also for the opportunity to study proper English.
Trust me, one of the pleasures for an English person watching Iain Tyrrell is to listen to someone speak proper English. It’s become a horrible, slang-ridden, cannibalised mutation of what it once was. Tyrrell and Metcalfe are a dying breed and it’s very sad. Think of the likes of ‘Yanni’ for example, and the way he speaks and delivers his version of English, that is the future unfortunately.
@@camwat5193 That's proper English that is, innit?
I had one of these as a loaner from my mechanic back in the early 80s when I had my 73 Benz 280S in for service. It was a lovely car and I was rather sad to exchange it back for my car. Great vid Iain, as always. Also as a cyclist, happy to see Iain give that one rider a WIDE berth on the road. Proper manners all around.
Would you rather have an E9 CSi or a W123? ; )
I was liking you till you said you were a cyclist ! Stay safe.
@@martinmcdonald4207 what's wrong with being a cyclist? I'm a former pro level racer.
@@davidhunternyc1 CSi all day long.
@@johnandrews3568 I get you. The CSi is one sexy car. The W123 is a living room on wheels. But for sitting in bumper to bumper traffic and repairability I might take the W123. Plus you can drive the W123 around and no one will give you a second look. I live in NYC. Driving a CSi would say, "Mug me now."
One of the best ever BMWs, along with the M635i, sexy cars
I agree 💯 beautiful bmw fantastic car
there was the 635 CSI as well , the Cherry on the cake
@@BlueHopi144 Ah the 635 what a car, reminds me of a shark.
Exactly the same two favorites for me, as well - great minds think alike.
@@coyote5735 oh yes , u are right .
Another beautifully made and presented clip from Iain. He really does give a really warm feeling with his enthusiasm and knowledge.
very strange and kinda boring
Enthusiasm and knowledge , yes, boring ? No…
@@jidofole I feel rather sorry for you.
Just for fun I determined a few things about a nanosecond. Mr. Tyrrell used this term around the 27 minute mark. Paraphrasing "Things could get out of sorts with the rear suspension, and tire contact in a nanosecond". Here are my results;
In a nanosecond the car would travel .000001056 inches.
The crankshaft would rotate .000018 degrees.
The pistons would move .00000035 inches.
SO WHAT DOES THIS SHOW US? Well it confirms that I am both a nerd, and a dweeb, and that I am full of useless information, while missing the forest for the trees.
Thank you for another wonderful video. I hope you could find the above amusing.
Still my favorite BMW design.
My Dad had one of these, GPH 400N, in metalic Garnet Red with Black vinyl sunroof, which leaked in rain the first weekend of having it. He was furious and hearbroken at the same time. It's sunroof was fitted at the dealer rather than factory. He swore he'd never have anything non-factory option after that. It was new November 1974. Beautiful car. Went like a train. I saw it years later, after he changed if for the saloon, in Fulham, whilst waxing lyrical about it to a passenger friend, then boom, there it was at the side of the road! Amazing. A quick search suggests to me it may no longer exist. I'd love to have it now!
I mean, if you love retro mechanical works you can hardly find someone on par with this gentleman here. It's simply sheer pleasure listening to his walkthrough on this car and driving experience.
Thank you!
I saw one of these when I was about 10 years old and instantly fell in love.
I had a 1974 E3 3.0 Si saloon which I bought in the early 1980's when I was 21.I ran it for around 6 years.
I found it to be expensively maintenance heavy for a basically simple design.
Finally the choice came down to fitting it with a 3.5 M5 spec 24 valve engine and 5 speed box which coincidentally Birds Garage were offering as Hartge agents.
Or cut my losses and discover the pleasures of V12 Jaguar ownership instead.Which came with the benefit of rack and pinion steering and wishbone suspension including superior Jaguar IRS.The latter option won out in the form of an XJ12 eventually modified along similar lines of Harry Metcalfe's XJ coupe to date.For less outlay in real terms overall.
Good job!
I remember clearly, the first time I saw one of those. I was walking home from high school, and it was parked on a side street. I had to walk over and go around it. What a beauty!
Back when BMW actually cared... thanks a lot Mr. Tyrrell!
They still do, but the public all want HGV-sized vehicles and that's where the money is. I've a simple BMW 3-serie F30 and the attention to detail, like the suspension, is still rather good. But the sheer number of different vehicles make it all rather difficult.
But this is in another league and I thank mr. Tyrell enormously!!
@@JJVernig the 3 series is bigger than older 7 series and it's a luxury car now. the starting price for a 4cyl clearly shows that. it's as expensive as a Camaro with the same engine and the Chevy will be more tunable, which is the opposite of what it used to be. don't get me wrong a 3 series is a better car in most aspects but the fact that I can import a muscle car and pay like 20% extra for shipping tolls etc and still come out not paying more than for a garbage-spec 3series, that shows how expensive BMWs have become. and the money goes to the marketing department, they make the engineers engineer infotainment systems, useless gadgets and obnoxious vehicles like the M8, I've been to the factory and I can tell by observing the brand for a few decades, the marketing department now runs that company. that's not what german brands especially BMW stand for.
@@user-hr2zy7ct8h Yes, they like to sell sizzle while the steak is quite mundane.
@@JJVernig they are all too low to the floor now. Its crazy your sitting on the floor pretty much.
@@davidmg1925 I don't believe that low thing is true, yeah they're much bigger, but a E9 is juch 136 cm tall, and a E23 143 cm . A F30 is als 143 cm high. I don't think it's a big difference in that.
Gone are the big glass area's so they seem different from within.
Additional respect for covering visibility, Iain, we've lost a lot in the past thirty years for the reasons you describe. Also I note your correct passing of people on bikes in a number of your videos, always 1.5m plus. A simple skill that too many drivers seem to lack.
Thank you indeed!
As ever a terrific video. It would have been fun to have a modern, large grilled BMW stood next to the CSI and Iain standing for a moment saying nothing, for nothing needs to be said about the comparison.
I like the one that came after that, the 635CSi. That's an absolute stunner!!!
Performance was certainly improved, the body style was not quite as unique as the E9. It was a more stiff chassis though.
I just can’t stop watching these videos.
It’s my childhood cars being presented.
And in such an amazing enthusiast way.
When I was a teenager back in the early seventies & an apprentice tradesman in a small West Yorkshire town one of our customers was a well dodgy local business man who one day turned up in his beautiful metalic blue BMW 30cs (or csi). I'd never seen anything like it & was totally gobsmacked by it & I've never forgotten it. 👍
This channel is becoming automotive ASMR !😎
That was always in my top 10 production cars. Absolutely gorgeous.
Didn't begin that way, facelift of ugly duckling 4 cyl. 2000 CS.
I have just found this channel minutes ago and I have already subscribed. What a refreshing change to listen to very interesting content presented in a calm, clear way. And thank goodness, no irritating, grating music. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I am going to watch many more of these.
As garage apprentice circa 1980 my boss sold his immaculate white/blue vinyl roof / blue velour trim 1973 3.0 CSA to a customer. It was my job to polish and prep the car for sale. The price was only £4500, I fell in love with the car it was beautiful and pristine. I was absolutely horrified to find out the customer rolled the car and wrote it off within 48 hrs!. - thanks for a great video again
I have never seen any BMW CS with a vinyl top in the USA, thankfully.
Between you and Harry it makes me proud to have been colonised!
You have to have the highest respect for a man who built his own paradise, not only with work, no, with A LOT of passion, too. I'm loving it! Never stop.
Love these old BMW's. I would love to have a 2002.
That's not old tho.
@@norsevikingsir4932 that car's about 45 years old.
@@philosophyoftrucking A 2002 is 45 years old?
I know how old a 1976 CSI is lol
@@norsevikingsir4932 look up bmw 2002 , its from 1974. 2002 is literally its name
One of the most beautiful cars ever designed
Those 3.0CSi's were glorious - my Aunt had one brand new after her Datsun 240z. They were very quick in their day and super comfortable. I can remember blasting through the Surrey countryside with all the windows down. I was very disappointed when she traded it in for a Mercedes 280CE, which was nice, but not a sports car.
I had one of these in the same specifications, and Ian is not wrong about the rust. It was so stunning to look at, but one day , I slipped on the accelerator and my foot went through the floor so I could see tarmac. My feet would get wet. I sold it to someone who spent a fortune restoring it. I still have the csl steering wheel I couldn't part with.
Great storyteller!
💯👍
This is one of those channels where I thumb up video as soon as I open it. Then I actually watch it. Awesome channel!
Just Took My Breakfast @ My Fav.Rest While Watching Another of Lain's Outstanding Videos.Wish I Could Find One Like This,W/ Left Hand Drive ,Here in USA in as Good of Shape as This One.Had A Datsun,as it was Called back then280 Z That My German Mechanic Taught Me the Importance of Adjusting those OHC Valves Every 15-20,000 mls.
First car I drove when I was 16.... no wonder I have a 440 at 54 :) Thank you for the trough back
I was privileged to own one of these for several years in the nineties. I can echo everything Iain mentioned regarding the joy of driving them. Not a race car but a peerless GT. Windows down motoring was a beautiful experience. Also, in the wet, you didn't need wipers if you were out of stop-start traffic. The airflow over the windscreen was sufficient to clear the rain. I had to sell it when we moved to a house without adequate waterproof car accommodation and I wasn't permitted to put it in the lounge room. I miss that car even today.
I love these cars...and I am far from a Beemer fan. But the old CSI's...just gorgeous. My mate had the next shape and back in the day it was the best car I had ever driven. And, I think, remains so! My brother asked me the other day about the old "what would you buy if you won Lotto?"... one of these thanks. Iain should be added to the list of National Treasures for your green isles. Cheers from NZ
I remember as a kid being in awe of these Beemers. Still love them today. When my Dad came home in his 2500 auto sedan (red of course), I was over the moon as finally I felt we had a real drivers car in the family. Still love the looks of the sedan be it s 2500 or even a 3.0 Si. Would love a manual one if I could find one. Alas I have a E90 323i which is nice but somehow doesn’t have the same feeling to me of the BMWs from the ‘70s.
Your right re the original 323. My ex wife had one of these when we first met. Such a cool car.
hi David how are you doing today 😊
Thank you very much Iain, cup of coffee and a slice of lemon meringue pie, can’t get better 👍👍👍☕️🥧.
The first one I recall ever seeing in person was on the streets of Harare, Zimbabwe, 32 years ago - just a quick glance, but it struck me as one of the most beautiful cars I had seen. The boldness of simple lines.
Unbelievable knowledge explained simply and intelligently. Thank you!
This is One of my favourite cars of all time . Just stunning ❤️
Excellent vid, as ever, Iain...makes us yearn for a slightly earlier time when things were built properly. 👍🏻
Oh boy what a beautiful car. I was lucky enough to own its little brother the E21 323i in Henna red with Alpina wheels. As a self employed salesman back in the day, My sales figures went down for a bit as I preferred driving the car to talking to customers, Happy Days.
Thank you Iain for a fantastic video.
Thank you for your memories!
Surely, I cannot be the only one to have noticed the small dent on the right front fender right below the beautiful vent. It's driving me insane. I would also appreciate that no cars i already can barely afford get any more of this wonderful advertisement. Please stay especially away from any 240z's.
Love the show, Cheers, Matt
Liked before watched.
Elegance is timeless..just lovely.
When the very first 5 series was introduced by dad rolled a metallic mid green 525 whilst on an early evening test drive from Anderson Motors (later more associated with Saab) in Hazel Grove who were a newly appointed sub dealer to Williams in Manchester. It was a cheese and wine launch event celebrating both Anderson’s appointment and the launch of the new 5 series. My brother and I were strapped in the back (we had never used rear seatbelts before and I don’t know why we used them then) and my dad, the guy from Anderson’s and us two in the back simply got out completely unscathed. I remember the windscreen shattering but the structure held up very well. I seem to recall it was an automatic and my dad always had manual cars before. Somehow he managed to slam it from Drive into Park or Reverse. The car locked up, veered left and we went through a hedge into a field that was much lower than the height of the road, which is what caused it to roll. Therefore the A pillars that you mention on the 3.0 csi maybe stronger than they look. Interestingly, immediately before driving the 5 series my dad took out a 2002 turbo, which looked great in white with M stripes and it seemed much quicker than our red 2002 tii registration number MLG 345L, but no good for us as my dad drove 40,000 miles a year in England and it was left hand drive only.
Quite the experience!
@@iain_tyrrellYes indeed as I was only 12 or 13 at the time.
Like a Harley Street Doctor - or a fine Surgeon.
Very relaxing to watch and as always magical.
One day perhaps I will have a car worthy of your attention.
I was worried he wasn't going to show the rear glass roll down but of course Tyrell wouldn't miss such a thing. Excellent vid as always.
Curious as to the regulator mechanism, as the glass drops, rotates, and drops again.
@@oldanslo BMW had to do that to get it to seal against the front glass vertically.
I remember driving a friend's 3.0 SI manual. Very nice car for long distances. He told me that the instruction book said to rev it to 6,000 through all the gears after a period in traffic. He reckoned that included top gear, so a bit over 130 mph, from memory :-)
Mr Iain Tyrrell causes way too much Vic Reeves thigh rubbing with his videos. Effortless presentation, fabulous to watch, thoroughly engaging and he brings these wonderful machines to life in so many ways. Thank you once again.
Had a couple of 635s.
One was expensive
One with 18 grands worth of receipts ! Loved that one.
Went to a 325 sport after and two of my friends after driving mine bought one.
I looked at a csl in auction many moons ago it made £500 pounds, lots of rot.
If only I would have bought a crystal ball 😆
Dear Sir. You really produce some of the best content on the internet. Please dont ever stop. Thank you
Could listen to that gentleman all day 💯👍
Jason Hill
“Blue vinyl top...Euesh”! [5:29] 😂😂😂 That was certainly a ‘classic’ moment.
Just great, and the whole dash and the dials are better looking than pretty much any modern car.
The wood panels and the VDO gauges were both magnificent and perfect . No way to improve either.
I love how Ian wears a polo and an Omega while working on cars. Classy dude.
I bet his prices are classy too. Worth it though.
The E9 CSI is one car I have lusted over for years. Life gets in the way and now when I'm in my (LETS SAY) upper years these cars are a premium here in the STATES. I'm looking and love your auto input.
Back in 2006/7 my work colleague had a silver 3.0 CSL. He’d seen some years earlier in the back of a repair shop/ garage somewhere in Oldham. I can’t remember if it was a manual transmission or an automatic. But it was silver. Anyway after a few years of pestering the garage owners to sell it, he bought it for the sum of £900.
He had it for a few years but a difficult home life intervened, so much so he let it go for free. I tried to get him to store it some place until he was ready, but a bmw repair garage in Rossendale picked it up.
He said it was the worst decision he had ever made, and refuses to talk about it. I feel for him as I knew how much he loved having that car. I don’t know where it went, I hope it’s been restored and is a pride and joy for someone.
Thank you for giving me an insight into another fantastic 1970’s thing of beauty. 👍🏻
Don't think CSL came with automatic (mine was CSA) & as with mine your friend probably would have lost it to rust, Karmann notorious for it.
Regardless of power/speed i simply love the look of the car. the rear light design, the side windows that over-lap, all great looking ideas. Silver seems to suit the car most.
Back in (or around) 1978 - 1982 my step-father owned a nice looking gold coloured BMW E9 3.0. I recall the black interior seats being some sort of black deep velvet material, complete with chrome fittings. The shade of gold on the body work was not a light gold, but a reddish gold, which looked rather good, and that's coming from something who does not normally like gold coloured cars.
Another great video and car. I used to own a E9 B2 Alpina. I regret selling it ever after. I always learn things from these videos. Even after being a classic car nut for 30 years. Impressed! Thanks again!
Aah, somebody talking about the balance & weighting of the fundamental controls! Nice to hear this guy's mechanical explanations and understandings. Just the sort of things the late great LJK Setright would write about.
Thank you Iain for reintroducing the 3.0liter CSi. When 19 my new 2002 needed its' 600 mile service. Appointment had me there a Monday morning first thing. I'd wait for it walking their inventory, etc. Instead, the entire staff mustered to collect a spectrum of new '73s displayed at the Richardson, TX mall during weekend. The manager asked if I'd assist bringing back the fleet. As we arrived, being young, the low man on the totem pole, I expected to pilot the 2800 Bavaria sedan. Surveying the lot, the manager instantly tossing keys "here you drive this one if that's alright". Yes, the only 3 liter CS , Aztec Gold, having done 18 miles. He must have been a mind reader in his spare time!
It's good to see you covering this car again Ian.
Often forgotten these early BMWS Including the E3...E12...E24.
Hope to see more.
If only cars today were made with such love of detail and feel.
Please do one on the BMW M635CSi !!! Another legend...(Not the USA e24 M6 please)
I have always loved this car, I almost bought one in the early 80s, but even then the only ones I could afford a
Were Starting to rust , I was impressed how quickly they were. And always loved the bubble top look, I think became the six series in later years, but more beautiful than the six series , for me, the best looking Bmw.
Didin´t even watch yet, and it´s already awesome!
Your pronunciation of German words is really spot on. Thanks for another interesting video
My favourite car of all time. "Doesn't cost a fortune". We clearly have very different concepts of what constitutes a fortune. A really good one will cost into six figures.
Read Ron Wakefield's accounts of his E9 ownership, new it cost more than the competition with less hp., he eventually sold it on BaT for multiples of original retail.
A BMW with a small grille! Wow that design language could catch on. Seriously though thanks Iain for another cracking video.
Drive safely Iain. You are a national treasure now.
Wunderbar as we say in German, wonderfull
It’s the look on Ian’s face as he gives it some beans,priceless.
One of my favourite cars, very elegant.
There’s one of these in my dream garage.
The little details you bring forward, along with your presentation, and tremendous knowledge, makes watching a joy. Thanks.
When I was a teenager in the mid 70’s My dad passed, on buying a second hand 3.0 Orange CSL.I remember the salesman was boasting the sophisticated aerodynamics,with the windows open,pillar less like the Jag coupé.I was so disappointed.He got a 3 litre Capri in the end!.But a friend of my da,came round one day with a V12 E type jag,smoked the tyres out of a junction with me as a passenger! What a great experience.
Thanks Ian Tyrrell! Awesome facts about the BMW E9 CSi.
The styling of BMWs from this period was classy and sublime. The 3.0 cars were real matinee idol lookers.
In Utah in the 90s my ski instructer's instruction on turning; slow in, fast out
great as always , look forward to each episode thank you
When warming a car up keep the heater off until normal temperature has been reached. Speeds warm up and saves engine wear👍
Great video as usual, the best on interesting cars🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍
Living in a cold climate always leave the heat off until the engine is up to temp just blows cold air on you and does take longer it seems to get the engine up to temp
I remember back in the early 1980s being so wonderfully surprised how amazing the alignment was to perform on those 1970s BMW. Shocking how those square box handled. Thank you for giving me a 40year memory.
Mid to late seventies my parents took me visiting friends in Germany and Sundays after church and Frühschoppen we went to a dealer who had almost new csi’ s in reseda green or solver or blue what a treat for us………….thank you Ian for bringing back these memories with your video 💚
The mention of modern car A pilars is a very good point, its caught me out a few times with visibility.
Oh these are just monumental BMWs. The two in the Workshop seem to be in immaculate condition at first glance. Specially the M30 is a pure deep enjoyment and thrill when fine-tuned. Personally, I've always loved the original front end of the C/CS the most actually, but those came with the M10 only, if memory suits me correctly. 2000 C/CSes on trade seem to range between 30-50k GBP; still quite doable, but I don't know how they would fare if in need of a restoration. Fabulous content this channel, and thank you :)
I owned an E9 for 13 years...much of it as my daily driver. I owned it from 1988 to 2001. It was for me also a car that I’d that I wanted since a little kid and I bought it with my savings and first months salary after qualifying from University. It was a one owner 1972 car. It was a Manual CS carb version (quite rare in that format). In the end, I just couldn’t keep up with rust bills! Hahaha. It could actually do 130 mph
How much did pay for it? £1500
I remember Birds Garage Gerrards Cross. We used to live on the Uplands located on the Dukes Wood Estate from 1975 to 1979. When your a kid you take this kind of area for granted and think everyone lives like this. When you have to make your own way in life reality is a rude awakening.
I love that gorgeous Espada parked up beside the Beemers.
I never got my maulers on of those back in the day but I did drive its baby brother the 2002tii. That was pretty impressive in the very early 80s and the German engineering shone through as Ian alludes to. Excellent video👍
Nothing wrong with a blue vinyl roof on an E9. I love it on mine!
That valvetrain reminds me a lot of my old E30.
Great video of a true classic Iain. A few points: 1) The 3.0CSi are VERY expensive classics in Australia, probably due to their rarity. 2) The SOHC setup was always very finicky re valve clearances. I used to set them up slightly loose as too tight valve clearances resulted in poor idle and a lack of power. They seems to 'spin' more freely with a slightly loose valve clearance. 3) My personal preference was the 3.0Si. The 4 door was just as good as the 2 door, looked better, was nearly as quick - a real 'sleeper' of a car. Love your work - makes me wish I was still a mechanic!