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Mate I just watched 8 minutes of this video in the delivery room thinking I had hours until my baby would be born. Well I had to pause and come back hours later because my baby boy just wanted to be in this world very badly and quickly I guess. Anyway, great video as usual!
Also love the fact you included a kite surfer in this vid, so both of my passions in one!
Congratulations mate. Can't say the same for myself. I sat slumped like a fat ass at home to watch the entire video haha.
Congrats!
@@JoshyEnglish ditto
That is the nicest I've ever heard of builder say "the architect wants"
Usually its that c word that usually means he has no idea how to actually do it just wants it. 9 times out of 10 it never works out as he says
"The clients are aware of that. The architect designed everything..."😂
Yea... but the architect can promise whatever he wants to. Doesnt mean its possible todo. This could cause issues like scott was kinda alluding to but didnt because he must get something off the architect
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As an architectural technologist and a contractor. I agree sometimes the architect (us) are kinda demanding and sometimes it looks good on paper but to actually do is very complicated so when i design my houses i try as much as possible to have details that actually makes sense and that are not out of the ordinary so that they are easy to build (saves me a lot of headache to make my own plans)
I am always amazed at how low people insist on installing the shower head. I’m sure there is a reason but there is something wonderful about not having to duck to get your head wet.
It may not be the shower head. It's probably just the outlet and then there will be a sliding adjustable shower head that goes higher.
If you need the reason explained to you ask any woman with hair.
Congrats , you know you’ve made it when you’re getting toilet sponsors !
6:20 I feel for the person who will be servicing this window “down the road”😊
Architect:- “I have an idea”
Carpenter:- “here we go......”
With the high amount of inspector involvement, i am amazed they are allowing a double hung wood window in a shower. Not to mention the architect. Your disapproval has been noted Scott.
What's inherently 'wrong' with a window in a shower? All it needs is proper flashing (as if it were exterior cladding). I'd probably use STPE-based liquid flashing. My beef is more about adding a glass panel - seems a dubious 'fix' - that old double-hung likely leaks like a sieve and they'll likely see condensation on the interior glass panel on cooler days.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb I'd assume once it's signed off, the secondary glass panel will be gone, and the window will be used for ventilation as normal.
@@ironpirate8 & then the problems will start... 🙄
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb It's not that there is a window in a shower, it's that there such a LOW and wooden window in a shower.
If the homeowner and architect are so fixated on having a silhouette peepshow shower, they could at least have had the window replaced with a vinyl-framed window.
And gone double- or triple-glazed for better R value than the single pane sashes.
Why put so much work into insulating your wall and essentially leaving a huge thermal hole in the middle?
Procedure, procedure, procedure. ( the life of inspectors) I have seen lots of Windows ruin a nice bathroom. But essentially keep the water out and there is no problem.
Nice to know you'll be able to hear anyone dropping the kids off at the pool while making your lunch in the kitchen - nice feature
Exactly what I was thinking. At least the shagging can't be heard in the toilet though🤷🏼♂️
@@JoshyEnglish So any erm 'guest' needs to be in the bedroom before you contemplate sending a friend to the coast
@@wsurfa I'm here for all of these descriptions. Pinching one off is a sacred thing🤣
The clients obviously don't expect to be around when the next poor bastard has to service that bathroom window. Ouch.
The “ohhhhhh” at 10:27 when he closed the window on you made me crack up😂! Hahah you guys are a great team, keep it up! Good day Scott!
Really really enjoying these reno series. The shower window still seems like the neighbour might get a show at night time with a light on perhaps? 😄
"No easy days" i feel ya.
Say whats up to Paerau, saw him at a bar in Kelston 🤣 cool as dude! 👍
I see the makita coffee maker has been replaced with a moka pot 👀 top choice ☕️🥂
I except to see a 40 v coffee maker in the near future.
As a Canadian seeing R2.5 insulation My first reaction was “oh shit those pipes are gonna freeze” then I remembered, its New Zealand, doubt it gets to -25 there 😅
It's Auckland, you wouldn't run out of fingers counting frosts each year.
Different rating system too. North America seems to rate things alot higher for some reason.
Also, all of the pipes (in the bathroom at least) are not on exterior walls.
In my area of the US, where it freezes as much as a meter deep into the ground for about a third of the year, architects and builders seem to be addicted to putting pipe in exterior walls.
- And they never show up to help when the pipes freeze and burst...
Your third and correct reaction should be to ask yourself "Does the whole world have the same R value ratings as North America" .... Clue: No it doesn't. US units are not SI units. In Canada they're commonly referred to as R and RSI values.
Lucky tile guy having his board set up for him by a professional carpenter!
That’s is the question I have every time I start a new shower 🚿 , “what the hell kind of level did these people use on these walls?”
@@whitty_so_shitty9443 especially when you replace a builders fiberglass surround
@@whitty_so_shitty9443 Level?
@@burtenplays yep they use a eyecrometer
Personally I think I would have gone with a Velux window in the bathroom. Plenty of light and ventilation. Maybe I'm just being over cautious but I think having a window set that low in the shower is asking for water ingress issues down the line.
Totally agree. As a builder of 30 years, it is a recipe for disaster down the track. It creates too many issues. I would refuse to do it. There is plenty of height in the ceiling to do a horizontal highlight window 2.1 metres off the floor with a sliding window or an awning window. Easy for an architect to draw it, but when things go wrong, I can assure you the architect won’t open his wallet to rectify it. Enjoy your channel and your attention to detail and having a clean site makes a clean job
I believe the height is to match the other windows.
@@firesurfer Yeah, but that's a silly reason to give yourself maintenance nightmares later.
Plus as someone else commented elsewhere, you will be giving your neighbor a silhouette peep show with night-time showers.
I wouldn’t share your garage number bru- a lot of CZcams lurkers ready to rob your loot 🤙🏽
In an old house I grew up in, we had a bathroom renovation.
There was a HUGE double-sash window previously, about 3 foot wide by 5+foot tall. Completely ludicrous, and the window was perpetually swollen with water infiltration.
To allow for a shower enclosure, the whole thing was taken out and replaces with a 3 foot wide by about 2 foot high frosted window about 5 feet off the floor that louvered open.
There was a lot of structural, insulation and siding added to make that work as well.
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I am surprised the homeowner did not go for a similar idea, even with the need to add wall and siding to reduce the size of the window.
can't imagine someone saying, 'wait there let me just lie down on this gib so I can make a video for my CZcams before we start work...' lol
Yeah if I filmed at work, either nobody would take it seriously enough, or it would waste too much time. I'm glad Scott can do it though.
Scott, you were very diplomatic about that window. It’s architect wankery of the highest order, and I would never agree to such a design as a client. Definitely tears before bedtime.
My own bathroom is very similar in size and layout, using in wall toilet and slimline vanity, with a recessed cabinet above the vanity , but the entrance door had to be a closet sized one adjacent to the toilet. I removed the original window which was positioned where your one is, and replaced it with a skylight. I have a sloping skillion roof, so the shower headroom would be too low for very tall people,
Dude Our jobs are totally in sync I'm doing what your doing I fixed the frame for a bathroom & I'm doing the Cement Board to tile I just finished my Niche & Insulation XD
Can’t beat a good Scott brown video can you
Empty my truck and fill it back up, same here! bathroom looks great straight square..
When the green Gyprock came out it was intended for kitchens and laundries around the taps and give that bit of extra protection not bathrooms. With all the work you did and cost it’s worth doing with villa board, if the waterproofing fails that green shit won’t handle it
Over here (Netherlands) they started using glassfiber/foam sandwich panels in bathrooms. Incredibly strong, rigid and waterproof. And incredibly light to boot.
There are multiple manufacturers, but Qboard is one of 'em.
Hi Scott, nice job on that bathroom!!
When I was a timber frame apprentice, we had a dedicated bandsaw on site for the thick insulation, it worked wonders for therigid/semi-rigid hemp and wood wool panels. I know that's another tool to haul around, but if you've got a big insulation session, it's a no brainer!! enjoy
Keep up the good as E.C. would say!!
Nothing better than building a straight house inside an old one. Love the level on the drywall.
Nice shot of Cheltenham Beach in the opening minute. Great place at high tide.
Thanks!
Good thing with nz compared to aus is that when you have to screw every 150 , you do have to screw every 150 . I've heard so many stories of inspectors measuring every single screws . In Australia we eyeball it more . But it's good to do the right thing sometimes 👍
Just had to comment, appreciate notifying the difference between cement and Aqualine and why they were used for each section, choice :)
Great job great tradesmen great to watch from a tradesmen in freezing lockdown uk
This is the best thumbnail I've ever seen on a sbc vid
allways love your intro: Nice weather, nice landscape, cool music. something to dream . . . .
The internal cistern is practical from a space perspective, but with it sealed behind the wall, you can't access it to perform repairs or maintenance. Like any cistern, eventually it will need a fill washer or flush valve seal replaced. If that was my place I'd use one of those old 1900s high wall cisterns with the pull chain - also in keeping with the period of the house.
Enjoy the videos Scott. Window arrangement less than optimal. Had exactly the same situation in my house. I put a three panel full width opening window up high and got rid of the window you're keeping...
That's what I would have done as well. With a bit of clever, the new window could be made to suit the house and look like it belonged.
Sounds like you need the new festool insulation cutter!
We use elements board here in the UK, product from abacus. Skill builder does a good video with all the details. Lightweight and can tile onto it 👌
When I have windows in showers I frame the perimeter with Corian countertop material that I can cut on my tablesaw router an edge and then silicone into place.
Because it acts like a frame I can then stop my tile into the edge of it and it is completely waterproof.
If you turn the tile into the window chances are it will most likely crack and start leaking......unless your using epoxy group I guess?
Ok
10:36 getting ready for a home remodel, large sized; and one of the requests is a wall mounted toilet. Starting to be very popular here in the USA, imo. Will be my first for installing one, hope goes very “easy”😉.
House built in 1987 & they sure LOVED popcorn ceilings.....this place has them everywhere, & I MEAN everywhere. Also, they painted them, many times over the years; gonna be fun🤦🏼
Great progress on the house, and looks amazing compared to what original was, nice job on this one.
Also, can’t wait for the next. Remodeling a place is “magical”; and love seeing the joy on clients faces for transforming what was; to something “the want”. (Yeah, that just sounds odd, lol)
Cheers✌🏻
Wow, I see your reservations with the window. They could have used glass block to keep the light coming through but get rid of the wood and potential for rot.
Or a sky light
my old house had a window in the shower we ended up putting a second shower curtain against the wall to stop it getting wet
This era of houses in Auckland fall within Heritage zoning. This level of work would almost certainly have required council consent, and I would put money on Auckland Council not signing off on glass blocks on a c1900 house.
But I totally agree that window is a nightmare.
@@snich63 Okay, that would certainly explain the window controversy.
In Australia we don't use glue for tiled villaboard, nailed every 200mm centres though.
I’ve missed a couple of Videos SBC .. my CZcams had not updated so I’d better get watching!😁👍very good SBC
Im in the UK
It's nice to see how you do things out there, lots more timber than what we use
Internal walls are very similar but externals are usually block and brick with an insulated cavity
Most windows are upvc and double glazed as a minimum
Sash windows are very rare and quiet specialist these days
It's too wet and too cold for wood framed houses really
We do have some but not many
It's horses for courses. From all the footage I've seen of the UK through various youtube videos, it's no wonder you lot build insulated fortresses. Here in Australia you can wear shorts and thongs pretty much right through winter. Consequently our building standards are pretty poor. It's a similar story in NZ.
@@Monsieur405 - 5c today all day and blowing a gale
In the house there is no noise and it's a steady 19c
The weather isn't too good at the moment tbh
It's been wet for 8 weeks straight and cold for 2 weeks
upvc wont last here with our sunlight. Double glazing is minimum for new builds.
Love your videos mate. I do similar work in the USA love the precision you guys do to your jobs. I get lectured being ocd and how slow I go for shit but damn near get shit done when left alone. Lol. I’d be working today doing apartments but I’m sicker then a dog right now
Why not use a light tunnel from above? its a bungalow right?
Ahhh.. the heady days of summer on a jobsite.. meanwhile in BC, Canada, it's just warming up (ha - it's still -15) after a spell in the -20's with howling wind-chill.. just grateful I've been working indoors the entire time..
That's just dumb burying the window like that - they could've designed a s/s L-section face-mount frame, as deep as the tile & mortar (3/8 or 1/2" whatever it is) sized to allow removal of sashes with a side-hung glass window = no future issues.
Empty my van and then fill it with more stuff🤦🏻♂️ story of my life 😭 lol 🤪
Its timez like this (moving gear/rubbish) that scotts van layout becomes a disadvantage i.e storage across the van floor.
In my old house I had a window in the shower. I hung a 2nd shower curtain to keep it dry. But then I was a bachelor at the time.
Thats one way to do it 😉
Man that’s the craziest window.... why not just put in a skylight? As a builder myself I feel your frustration/reservations. Nice work mate.
Put a lot of hard work into that guys coming along very nicely.
Justin brickright 👍🏴
try using a 5inch diamond blade on the makita tracksaw to cut fc sheeting and hammerdrill bit to countersink screw holes
Check out Hultafors for insulation hand saws, I am living in Sweden and insulation is a major part of building. The Hultafors insulation hand saws are quite handy, there is more brands I'm sure but yeah.
That just seems so wrong that window in the shower...but I love watching your videos... keep them coming bro 😎
and the red stuff for fire resistance
R2.5! Here in southern Ontario, Canada, the standard is R22 - R29.
Same here I was wondering what his stuff is made of
Different climate and US R units are 5.68 times metric R. R2.5 would be your R14
meanwhile its minus 24 in canada where i work as a carpenter and im outside right now working
-34C here in the Yukon. Good day to stay inside and watch Scott in semi tropical Aukland
Has the Schluter system reached you or do you know of it? It’s pretty great. I know in North America, Canada, there are other systems but my boss will only use schluter if he is going to set tile. Basically foam board and you meld it all together with water proofing bands and mortar.
hello scott Brown carpentry , there are special screws for (fiber cement). These screws have a kind of burr that when screwing them they self-countersink 🇨🇱
R2.5 insulation... only in NZ 🙄😂
Meanwhile I'm busy installing 200mms of rigid foiled insulation sheeting in me ceilings here on the west coast of chilly Ireland...
That cement board is heavy stuff, I did the bathroom refurbishment.using it..
Lucky you caught that leak 😏
From the Emerald Isle
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Love your channel mate! So many good tips and details from these videos, makes Handman tasks a little easier... also getting the right advice from tradies a little easier... cheers!!
I think it was a mistake to place the toilet cistern in the wall shared with the kitchen, and having no sound insulation installed in that wall. I don't know if the Architect realises the potential problems with that. Anyone who has lived in a house, flat or apartment where the kitchen shared a wall with the toilet or bathroom with a toilet knows that listening to people use the toilet while you're preparing a meal or cooking a meal is not great.
Also, I've seen this happen more and more nowadays where the "bathroom" actually contains no bath. Pedantic I know, and there are valid reasons to not have a bath and only have a shower, but if the household includes babies and young children then those reasons are lost (in my opinion).
Great point!
I agree mate.
I believe GIB Aqualine is also can be used in bathrooms
I do a lot of bathrooms wish I didn't all a pain. Work is work though as they say. Whatever you do to that window the home owners will come to regret it the way it is set up. Like most architects away with the fairies and use their clients as guinea pigs. To keep the look in and out and make it work a completely sealed fixed glass plate on the inside and then make it so the whole box sash can be extracted from the outside by removing a couple of trims for repair or maintenance would just about work. Having some convoluted opening system bad idea. Every Window even partly across a shower I have ever encountered rotten as a pear. Often wondered what you use as gyproc adhesive in NZ in a mastic tube. We use adhesive in Australia but from a tub with a stick. Haven't seen one in a mastic tube. In the UK we didn't stick at all.
Just a note, It is a big no no to install a recessed shower shelf on an external wall, due to condensation build up within the wall from the temperature difference outside to inside. Still being NZ it should be ok, but you may get rot in the wall over time. Recessed shower shelves are generally only for internal walls. That is probably an architect mistake, but you should check for future bathroom fitouts.
Rain again Scott! 😂😂😂 All the best from Sydney we do commercial fit out just fun to watch you.
40v chopsaw looks great seen couple of videos I recon for it size it be a class leader
Haha loving how your keeping your opinions on the bathroom design to your self😉 showers+windows =problems.. but thats what they want so allgood just get it done it'll look mint im sure👍
Scott, going by some of the comments here it looks like you need to explain in a video the difference of the R values we have in NZ (and in Europe) compared to the US & (parts of) Canada. Eg. R2.5 = R14
Haha, loved the "R2.5 insulation". Makes me laugh because I just had to put R-15 and R-19 in my walls for my bathroom reno. Given it's -6 °F or -21 °C outside so I understand why we have such high requirements.
Uhhh you need to google the differences between US units and SI units.
R2.5 = R14
One day I'll want a shower with a view.
I've had the pleasure a few times on holidays of getting up early and showering while watching the sun rise over city rooftops or a nice green scenery.
One BnB rental had the shower under a slanted roof with a window over the bath so I could nearly pop my hole head out while showering. Good times
Great episode! That shower head seems low to me. I prefer it to be above my head.
Sorry to see you are going into another lockdown mate.
Seriously, I findvyour vids the mostventertsining thing at the moment, I've learned so much and gotten so msny ideas.
Hopefully you wont be stuck for too long.
Thoroughly enjoyed, another episode of Scott Brown Carpentery....Very informative and entertaining 👏👍Thank you.....
This is eerily similar to the layout and position of our bathroom just finished
If there was a usable area (convert a closet?) on the other side of the wall behind the toilet, could the toilet have been installed on the same pipe jutting out from the wall in the opposite direction, in essence mirroring what it would have been in the proper bathroom? I want to do that in ours for a larger more sanitary open shower in the bathroom, and have a little private toilet and sink area accessible to the bedroom in the space that is a closet abutting the bathroom.
Great video and craftsmanship Scott and Team! Had to laugh "exciting traffic". Alway good stuff, really enjoy your channel! Keep them coming!
c'mon scottyI I've watched a lot of your vids and all ive seen is rain. give the people some sun! I live ion Auckland and I know its there
What are the wall panels called for tiles and wet places like bathrooms? What adhesive do you use? How do you water seal floors and walls? Also can you do video of replacing new floor under structural/weight bearing walls? Im renovating my bathroom due to rottan floor. Thankyou for your informative videos
Dude all I do is bathroom remodels every day I feel the thumb nail spiritually
Festool has a insulation saw works very well
Nice pink thunderbox
Hey, Scotty. Just wondering if you are charging extras when you have to re-framing the walls. I don't think you can quote this part at the beginning. Normally this kind of job, it is not charge by hourly rates...
Usually it's a variation to the quote; pretty standard for these sort of jobs to have clauses for extras once demolished like extra excavations, footings and rework of previous found not safe or to standard required for sign off.
well you kinda have to since your still wasting some materials making packers and extra studs/dwangs, so the quote would most ikely come under material costs, also pretty much most builders will quote you for RRP prices on materials, when they get it mostly on trade prices, so the labor costs is sometimes included in materials pricing, but you can absolutely charge for labor costs. its really up to the builder.
It's pretty obvious to a builder that the walls or floor arent level/plumb/straight when quoting. He would have made a certain allowance but probably not everything as sometimes walls are so bad that its easier to rip out and start over.
Called a " change order " for all you Rookies!
All original work stops and nothing moves forward until we get signatures and approvals
And if your contractor knows what he's doing these should all be listed in your contract under contingencies and redundancies and should be initialed by the homeowner before you even start
Always good watching mate
The window is going to give grief over time.
Yeah well said, tricky when owner and architect are saying press forward but it won’t last and will a nightmare moving forward
Scott how do you get into the internal toilet for maintenance?.Otherwise another exciting episode..many thanks
Come to UK to see how they do the bathrooms!
They put the tiles straight on the green plasterboard! amazing 👍
Yup and then a year later the inside of the wall is rotten and the plasterboard is falling apart because of water ingress.
Mate！Auckland will go back to Level 3 lockdown after 4 hours
Another excellent video...
Two points...
1. The way you word stuff is an epic mix of Scottish and Kiwi. I love it.
2. When are you gonna do a Patreon?
Hey Scott, are you going to show how the glass in front of that window is going to be installed? thanks
Interested to see how you replaced the rotten joists under tge actual wall that was rotten, how you propped up the wall to get the new joist in etc. Any chance of some video of that? Cheers
New Zealand: has multiple types of structural dry wall, does not use osb, has pink wood, wired insulation.
America: one type of dry wall, use osb for sheer strength, has fiber glass insulation for residential, and uses Douglas fur to frame everything except the bottom plate
All of this is from and America FYI
Scott is in Auckland, New Zealand not in Australia. Though, your point still stands. As an American that has done some renovating myself, I find it really interesting seeing the differences in construction techniques.
Australian Carpenter here. We are just now starting to see OSB in our hardware stores (flooring in particular). I've never used plasterboard (drywall) as bracing, our engineers generally specify plywood sheets or flat metal strapping as bracing.
@@Beef4Dinner22 shoooooot I wanted to say New Zealand
Strange idea with the sash window. Why not replace the sash window for a replica? Same style but a hinged opener on the top. Would have saved a ballache when it comes to maintaining the sash weights etc
Nice work guys, great team!!
Two things:
1) No way would I have that timber window in a shower area. At the very least replace it with an aluminium framed window.
2) I prefer not to mess around with plasterboard in a bathroom. Villaboard (fibre cement) the whole bathroom, run full length sheets from wall to wall and minimise joins.
The future of (timber framed house walls) in NZ will be ''trussed timber walls'', the walls will be constructed exactly like a truss....''parallel chord truss'', because triangles are the strongest shape. It's been done in NZ already, but not often... triangulation of timber walls will happen in the future.
Crazy to see that huge kitchen and such a small bathroom, any reason why the bathroom hasn't been made bigger?
Keep up the good work scott
cement board doesn't add strength, it helps stop tiles falling off if the board get wet and it gets over used and many ppl don't understand how to use it, its a joke, I thought the cable for under floor cable is right but the thermo control is outside the b/r or NZ have different rules to the UK?
This one was a bit different but you know, happens
I remember you receiving a drywall attachment for your impact. I haven’t seen you use it.