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Memory Expansion:
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The Seagate Storage Expansion Card for Xbox Series X | S delivers an additional 1TB of external memory while maintaining the same peak speed and performance of the console's internal SSD for a streamlined gaming experience. The 1TB of extra storage means you’ll have ample space to grow your games library. Easily plug in and play, or remove the card and take your games with you. If you’re looking to add extra storage to your console, this is the card that will enable you to achieve the same performance as the Xbox Velocity Architecture when playing games that have been Optimized for Xbox Series X | S. - Hry
Of course 64 GB didn't work Microsoft says on their own website that expandable storage has to be at least 128 GB
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@@Autistic_Sebas I hate these bots that keep putting scam comments on almost every video on CZcams.
Duh....
Yeah common sense don’t mean shit lol
Yes it does I have 2 64gb USB drives won't work either. You need 128gb and need the correct ssd to run new optimization to s or x series.
Also the reason why this took so long to work is because your Xbox is looking for a certain baud rate if your drive does not communicate the data fast enough your Xbox will assume that it has a weak connection to the storage device and I think you're right the drive itself is fast enough but the adapter itself cannot interpret the data efficiently
Great way to explain it 💯💯
It's probably a good guess that it's the adapter but it's still early on so I'm sure in the future there will be functional models. Probably not on wish though.
Very cool video, keep trying storage hacks. Frigging fascinating 👏
I went into my local electronic store. Asked him about a 2tb ssd Seagate. He replied "$720"😳😳😳 thank you for your time sir. I'm going home now
Blk widow 2tb bestbuy oaid 125 best ever spent on holds 100games
bruh I went to a game exchange and got a 4tb Seagate hardrive for $40
@@hoopa8312 mine is a blkwidow
@@hoopa8312 120@bestbuy 2tb
Search up a 2 terabyte hard drive there about 60 bucks
The error could be a red herring. Try messing with the cluster size when formatting. This has been an issue in other systems because they had a very specific cluster size. Sounds weird but it has helped in the past. Depending on your skill level, reflowing any soldered parts in the adapter is never a bad idea either.
I got my 1tb expansion card for £150 from CEX store, kept my internal memory free (all on exp card) and also have an external SSD for games that aren't S/X compatible, MS must have locked out everything else except Seagate from the internal memory/system and the card, makes sense why your one didn't work, because the card has to sync to the XB, would have been a great option tho.
I believe they have a exclusivity contract with them at the moment
Thanks for the info Mark. Yeah retail prices are a joke for these but 150 sounds ok used. I’m going to go hit up CEX then I guess
The fact that these have a limited amount of read cycles that dictate their life span means you should never buy a used SSD that's like buying a used battery
You just demonstrated exactly WHY I usually end up buying the official stuff anyway. 😂
"We only had to buy these five things, put them together in exactly the right order, format it, plug it in three times, still didn't really work, we got errors, could potentially be harmful.."
Stop. Just stop. I'll pay the crazy high price, just give me an item that works that I can plug in immediately. 😂
Convenience is worth the cost a lot of the time. Tinkering is for hobbies where the fun is in the tinkering itself. When it comes to gaming.
Well. We know where the fun in that is
Rock candy and afterglow were a really good alternatives to regular controllers.
EXACTLY my thought! 😂😂
like give me convenience over all that money and time spent to try and get an unofficial storage device to work
A sheep is born every minute
@@dmadking3817 says the sheep
This was very interesting to watch. Thanks guys! :D
you can still use the new ssd with the usb adapter and just plug it in the xbox usb port. It will work like an external drive for the older games but faster cause its ssd.
Love your vids man, dor real i do. But maybe get an over head cam for stuff like this.. im hands on learning.. an that would help me alot idk about everyone else.. but i think it be worth it specially with projects like this.
The adapter for psvita isn't for their proprietary memory card, it's called SD2VITA and its for modded vita's only, it actually goes into the game card slot and you can use it alongside a vita memory card
My personal slim vita has a 128gb micro SD inside an SD2VITA adapter alongside a 32gb vita memory card
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Man, in my Vita craze phase I splurged 90 euros to import a 64gigs memory card from japan, and it was still cheaper than buying it from european sellers. Few years late I too went with a SD2VITA adapter and never looked back ❤
From what I saw, Xbox needs a drive with PCIe Gen4 to work as intended. I saw on the beggining of the video that you are using a WD Blue PC SN520, and the PC SN520 is Gen3. In theory, if you look for the CH SN530 should work as the original Seagate card.
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THIS^ i ordered a similar housing/adapter from amazon but you have to make sure its a “CH” sn530 and it works flawlessly on my xbox
@@J4CKM0N those really DO work? I'm going to have to check this out
I think it could be software based that the Seagate is hard coded into the OS hardware expansion slot. would need to rip the hidden files off the Seagate expansion card & clone over to a new m.2 drive with same requirements as the Seagate card to create a m.2 clone.
I had the same weak connection with an actual sea gate 2Tb right out of the box unplugged it and plugged it back in and it’s worked fine since…
I use my 4TB Seagate external hardrive for a ps4 for my series X and it works perfectly!
Thank god that someone tried it bc I have a 2tb for ps4 thanks u very much 🙏 ❤
Of course it did, there's nothing special about console-branded hard drives. You can't play true gen9/scarlet games off of anything that doesn't plug into flash expansion slot (or the internal drive).
I wouldn't buy Seagate for anything now seeing how greedy they are.
That’s a miracle, the Seagate external hard drives are trash teir, I have had 2 die on me in the past 5 years. First in warranty second one 6 months out of it, and they say planned obsolescence isn’t a thing 🤦🏻♂️
@@Randomguy-os3rz u must bought a bad one I bought one for 68€
I bought a western digital 5tb external on eBay for 70 bucks and it works flawlessly
Just spend 60 on 2 tb on Amazon for an external. Works perfectly. You may have to move a game here an there between ‘‘em but it literally take 5 minutes for or Valhalla.
lolololol you are a 🤡
That is a HDD not an SSD. Series x games that are specifically made for series x must be stored on an SSD. That option of an HDD external only works for xbox one x or earlier games.
@@countryboyq I use one. And literally explained how it’s done. You may have to move a game from the ext to the internal. But the 5 minutes it takes is a small price to pay considering the 3-5 hundred dollar Ssd you want him to get.
@@AMCKEEL1sorry I may have misunderstood. So you are only storing the game on the external, then you move it to the internal when you want to play it? Is that what you are saying?
@@countryboyq yup. Super fast to do. And as you said. Any game which isn’t an xsx game which is more then you think you can play right off of it. But yes. I fill my int with what I’m playing if something needs moved I move it. Simple as that. Really fast. Like 100gb is 5 minutes. So. Definitely worth my time. Instead of spending that much money on the Ssd that costs the same as our consoles
Well it is looking like Western Digital is now going to start making storage expansions drives for the Series X and S. Which should force seagate to drop the price on their drives. Hope this is the case even though I already have a 2TB external expansions drive for my Series X.
One thing I reeeeally like about the ps5 is the super easy way to use a m.2 ssd for storage, just pop the cover off and put it in
I couldn't be bothered to mess around with the adapter and find a drive that worked. I found the 1TB genuine card on eBay brand new for £120 so wasn't terrible.
Good
I just use an external SSD and just move back and forth. Transfer super fast 2Gb per second. So 100 GB moved in 5 min
They should bring back the SSD card to plug in the controller it would great and then you plug and play with friends on there consoles with your own settings ......needs to happen
That would only work on wired controllers and even then it would need to be at least USB 3.2 to not be a major bottleneck. Bluetooth is just too slow for data transfer.
Would be better off adding USB 4 to future SKUs and allowing fast enough USB drives to be used as an alternative to the CFX cards.
anyone remembers the Dreamcast memory thingy that kinda looked like a miniature game boy and you could plug it into a Dreamcast controller?
I still think they should have made at least to ports for the expansion card
Agreed. 2 ports would be ideal for transferring data.
When they make these consoles they try to make them as cheap as possible without it actually being cheap. Every console is sold at a loss so I’m not surprised they didn’t add multiple of the same port besides usb obviously. Just my opinion
I was just thinking that
Agreed
They should make they break up thing, like they have with plugs or usb, you put one in the slot and it'll be a lil brick that will have 2 slots for the cards
I wished they would have kept the hdmi in port for the One Guide to plug the cable box or other things in. I loved it.
That play they took during the Xbox one era literally almost killed the brand.
@@TruFire710 yea but it’s a feature many of us loved.
@@TruFire710 having the feature didn’t almost kill the brand just giving tv and features other than gaming so much focus almost killed the brand. I loved the hdmi in port.
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that expandable storage does work. i have a sn530 1tb. and it only worked with that. o yeah, and you have to convert it to MRB before installing it on series S/X with no issue what so ever. i think maybe the problem could be the format or the storage size.
Do you have the links?
@XboxReady
The SSD you are using is the PC sn530, its PCIe Gen3x4.
The SSD in the xbox is the CH sn530, its PCIe Gen4x4 and it has a security layer,
the reason you are getting the poor connection message is that the console cannot use the PCIe Gen4x4 protocol to communicate and has to revert to the slower gen 3 pci speeds which cannot support the DirectStorage APIs for Xbox Series X|S consoles.
Got my 1 tb hard drive for my xbox. Yes it’s expensive but worth it. Having 1.2 tb left for games after having warzone 2, destiny, forza. Maste chief collections as the big downloads and some other little games it helps a lot
So I have actually been looking into this as an option for months but still the cost of a ssd that’s worth throwing in it when all is said an done is only like 40$ cheaper.
Same deal with me.. I am not sure if I have even seen that much of a price difference. It's relatively pointless for me
@@thatdrewguy9098 well my thing is if I’m going to do it I’m atleast gonna use a 2tb. So In the end of just go an buy the sea gate lol
Yeah, I thought about a workaround and ended up getting the Seagate 2TB for £360 if was the right decision no fuss:P
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I just heard a old minecraft song and now im buying xbox 360 minecraft to play it once again 😢 i remember when i used to play it every day when the old music and tutorial was still there im so happy xbox lets you play old games
I got my 1Tb seagate card for my Series X for 160€ on Amazon. Stay vigilant and you could get the card at nice prices.
I would still buy the official ssd but im pretty ok with the series x storage space. Also un/installing is much faster with an ssd.
I have the performance on my stream the other day moving cod back and forth and even showed the drive and adapter. Check it out.
Same thing happens sometimes when my series X doesn’t power off right just restart the console and it works for me
they have similar adapters on amazon now haha thats why i came here to see about it
I use a regular external hard drive plugged into the rear usb. It’s an older drive so any 2021/2022 games have a chance of not working but so far that’s only Been a handful of games. Other than that I have almost thirty games on my external drive
Thanks for making this vid!
Back in the day all you had to do was pick up a 2.5 hdd formated right and just drop it back into your 360 slim
For me in the uk I can use other storage devices for non series x/s apps and games, I think it doesn’t work because it needs to be fast enough to process info quickly for ideal gaming, also probably why it cost so much.
Yea that's obviously what the video is about.
These SSD adapters work fine in my experience. You guys seem to have put the wrong SSD in it. They only work with either CH SN530 or XA1 SSD drives (not the SN520 you tried in it or even a standard SN530). These two working options are PCIe 4.0 cards.
estas en lo correcto. yo tambien tengo el mismo adaptador con el SSD CH SN530
Really? Hmm.will you be able to play games off of said expanded SSD you mentioned in your post?
@@jedimojojojo1603 yup.
@@XL3BIGDrizzy nice! I've seen one on eBay, 1tb, will that work? It's the XA1
Can confirm it works with the SN530
So my setup is I have a 1tb seagate memory card (that is what it is pretty much) with the 8tb external storage game hub. So any games I play that is series x are in the memory card, while any games I don't play are in the hub along with the Xbox One, and 360 games
this great i like your review in all the games consoles and gadgets keep up the good
The prices for the 513gb and 1TB are pretty close in price to the M.2 options for the PS5 of which there is a fair amount of competition. I don’t think competition is going to lower the prices much-if at all.
It will in the long term. Right now you can't tell because the tech market is wonky thanks to shortages, but in normal situations it should make a difference
I got my 1tb wd ssd for my ps5 for 140. 154 after tax.
@@kingkwad129 I got my 1tb Seagate for 182$ after tax, so it is pretty close in price. Albeit my Seagate was on sale for holiday season though.😎✌
The lower the price, the more sales they make, the more money they make.
@@JuanDiaz-jo1rw not always
I use a 500G sonnics ssd that I used to use in my old xbox , works fine it was like £20
im a bit late. but I have a seagate 2TB external hard drive for my Xbox one, would that still not work on the series X/S? the thing was 80$ comparatively.
If you have storage issues this might help: i bought a 2tb card (ik expensive as hell but worth it) i put ONLY series x/s games on it and i have external sea gates for my xbox one and 360 games, so i have 3tb just for x/s games and i have 9 tb for everything else, and if i run outta internal storage (which will be hard cause i have like every game on game pass, plus more installed and still have storage) ill just put my most played x/s games internally stored and move my games when i wanna play which dont take long. I have two new 4 tb seagate external hard drives only for xbox one / extra x/s games and an old white seagate for all my old games for anyone wondering, it works well i dont have problems with storage anymore and i play alotta games, and yes every usb slot is being used lol
Edit: i know theres bigger external xbox drives out there but i just got the two 4 tb drives cause it was just convenient for me at the time
Yes and you just described why the PC market shares the PC gaming market share keeps going down and the console market chart keeps going up out you know the mobile larger chair has far sur best both of them but the fact is consuls are getting powerful enough to give you comparable graphics and frame rate out to the PCs for a fraction of the cost and none of the headaches and you know retail market Shores purchasing them aren’t the only ones that way down it’s way easier on development as well
The hell you on about?
You should try magnetizing your screwdrivers, or get already magnetic ones
Ok Ray, you convinced me to buy an official SSD.
You guys should keep trying to figure it out something that works right the first time id be interested cuz that $240 is just crazy
It rotates in and out of stock but Costco sells seagates without the extra branding on it. I got 2TB for $80.
What was the xbox stand you got? I'm trying to find as good one.
I literally bought some random 600gb drive from Amazon for like $40 and plugged it in and it works perfectly fine idk why y’all guys are spending $100 just for 512 💀
You cant play any X|S enhanced games unless its an ssd
It’s not the same
you can just keep games on the flash drive and transfer them over to your xbox
@@jamanijohnson8963yeah and wait 20 minutes every time you want to play something. I think this is the biggest problem we’re going to have going forward with consoles.
I got a 3 tb storage for 60 bucks n works fine
You can get the series essence stores there on the shelf available everywhere and now the series x is where you have the problem getting one
I often get that error with the seagate version when I first insert it in the xbox, have to take it out and put it back in.
when the psp came out i had a phone that tock the same storage card so it was not a only psp storage thing plus camera's back then used them as well
sounds complicated but all I do is hook up an old 1 tera drive that was faulty and starting to fail on my computer to a usb hard drive docking station and boom more space.
I use a WD HD...Western digital hard drive 6TB..... I use that for all xbox one /oneX/ 360 games. Works great. £60 UK pounds.... WD my passport.... Sorry quick edit.. I use it on my xbox one X & series X.
Bobby, does the Western Digital 6TB hard drive work for Series X games, or just Xbox/Xbox 360/Xbox One games? Thanks man. Deciding between getting PS5 and Series X.
I got 2t hard drive that's Seagate but it was for photos plugged it into xbox formatted it and it works for 60 dollars
That 512 seagate always goes on sale at Newegg for $120
Xbox series S and Series X use a SSD that's not soldered to the board unlike the PS5 where the SSD is soldered to the board, if you could clone the original software from your original SSD or reinstall the software onto new SSD you could upgrade your Xbox to a bigger capacity SSD on your Series S or series X,
Ps5 is also alot faster, and supports non proprietary ssd expansion upto 7gb/s so....
@@sicgamer9303 source: trust me bro
@@sicgamer9303 eh wont see much difference anyway. they dont implement ps5 ssd speed in most games so..
@@sicgamer9303 which are just Gen4 speeds lmfao
Got my Series X 2 days ago as it's sat next to my PS5
I was very curious about that options...but yet there is no other option for Series X unfortunately
I've read the CH wd sn530s are the only ones that work. The ones with PC in them do not. Did you use a model with pc in it?
Would this work if you had two Xbox’s and you took the ssd out of one of them and then used the alternate expansion card holder of wish?
Would sticking a m.2 nvme ssd into an enclosure work?
Weak connection? Shave off a mm or two from the connection end?
In terms of the hard drive SSD I guarantee that it far it’s Anza hardware compatibility thing they want to make sure there are no performance issues or compatibility issues that caused him grief
That denim jacket though!
On problem i have is any and all games i have that are x or s specialized anytime i update it trys to put all ove them on the main drive
From what I found when looking into that ssd adapter, it will only work with the same model of ssd that's used for the internal storage. So unless you have a Series x|s that you're willing to scrap for its ssd, it's not going to work.
You can buy the ssds separately, people have done it
Do you have to buy the adapter separately ? if so where?
I bought a 4 tb hard drive 40$ from a pawn shop and it came with more Xbox games I was pretty lucky
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Have all my xbox one games stored on external hard drives that plug into usb port and all work as they should not sure what people are on about storage hard drives not working?
But you can play from an external hdd if it is a series game?
I got a 1 tb play station memory drive in my xbox series x from game exchange for $20 🤷🏾
Console gaming is awesome for maximum performance for minimal expense.
At this point, you can get into an entry level gaming laptop with more storage, better performance, and equal compatibility to Series X.
I’m an Xbox FanBoi. I love my box. But, PC/Xbox hybrid (buy a PC, use an Xbox Controller and GamePass Ultimate) is really the only way to go.
Those prices seem pretty legit to me for expandable storage on Xbox.
If u genuinely believe tht 2tbs of storage should cost more then the console it's self then they sold u
You do realize that they sell these adapters on Amazon, right? So why would you order it off Wish and wait months for delivery?
I have a series s and The old Xbox one seagate externals play games just fine for me, why do I keep hearing how you have to have one of the new storage expansions to play games from an external?
I just walked on down to the Walmart and bought a 4 TB Seagate storage and formatted it for my original Xbox One. Works pretty good but sometimes I have crashing if too much is going on running off of the Seagate like music and Game Pass and online gaming and all that but if I'm just playing a game and in a party it's not that big of a deal it can handle it pretty well
This is for the Series X expandable storage port
That's fine for xbox one x but not series x games. They must be stored on SSD not an HDD. The size of the games becomes an issue if you have them all installed on the series x internal 1tb storage. Some of these games are well over 100gb. I don't know about you but I own a lot of xbox games and those being updated for series x will fill my internal drive if I download them all. So basically I spend a ton of money for more storage space, only have games I currently play regularly installed, or find a storage option like these guys are trying to do.
I plugged two different SSD into my Xbox one and X and it works fine?
Shortly after buying my xbox one i found a 10 tb external Seagate hard drive for 150 at best buy on sale it has worked with no issues other than the wire got messed up at some point in which i had to replace it but other than that i have 11 tbs for my Xbox one s
And that affects the series x systems how ? Yeah doesn
U can only have 8tb max bro? 💀💀
It means you can use all 10 tb for the xbox one 360n and even original xbox and use the 1 tb it comes with for your xbox series x games
I have two external drives. One for my PC and one for my Series S.
It HAS to be a Seagate CH SN530 model m.2 SSD or a Western digital CH SN530. Has to be CH model of the sn530 models
Is there a way on game pass to just download the one version instead of the series SX version?
I got an external storage thing and it’s like 5 TB. It was like 200 bucks but it was back in 2016 so it’s pretty old but I didn’t know they didn’t make them anymore.
Not the right kind of memory. This adds to the internal that works with Series X games
They have these adapters on eBay you can get in 4 days
I got the WEAK CONNECTION prompt on my official 1tb seagate expansion when I brought it over to my brothers Series X.... Worked after plugging it in and out a couple times...... Now Im all worried.....🙃
The 64 GB card out of a steam deck is an SSD, SSD stands for solid state drive, nvme card, it just uses EMMC over pcie 2X1 instead of SLC/MLC/TLC over pcie 4x4,
So it didn't work because it didn't support the right PCIe version, do not support enough pcie lanes, didn't meet xboxs minimum storage reqiurments and was too slow,
All in all it's not hard to find things that work you just have to make sure you're using compatible flash drives
!!!! people love tech and are so ignorant of it, thank you for this comment, as someone who thought this immediately, it's a shame to see so many "tech savvy guys" not know anything 🤦♂️
I have a 2 TB normal Seagate HD, I had it for my 360, it worked absolutely fine, the only thing was the xbox couldn't communicate with the hard drive when it was turned off. So the hard drive stayed on for over 10 years, eventually the screws inside the hd vibrated them selves loose and trashed my hd. But this proves you don't need that special Seagate, any formatted Seagate will work, well on my Xbox One S anyway, dunno about Searies S or X
Yeah you can use any external HD but it won't run series S/X games off the drive. Only previous gen games.
@@paperman9708 yeah it worked on my Xbox one S because the hard drive in an Xbox is made by Seagate
i picked up a 1tb seagate expansion card at a pawn shop for half new cost.
I don't personally use the Samsung drives but I got a sea gate that's way more worth it then the Xbox one it holds 6 terabytes of storage so any Xbox one games and shit won't have any problems losing space
You could get the adapter on Amazon now
Which is the one that came with like 2tb or something
All my friends refused to buy a series x because of the ssd issue. I wish I had gone with playstation now :(
Why donot they make a usb adapter to a Memory expansion slot??????.
All you need to do is buy any hdd or ssd and format it to your Xbox and it'll work, I currently use a 2tb on my series X that I got for $50
Doesn't work for X/S games. But I'm not bothered just switching the games around from ext to int when I want to play different ones. Doesn't take that long.
@@jamestabbron8124 that's exactly what I do
@@Slayers_Gaming_And_Reddits exactly man waiting like 5 mins to move a game is nothing, just make a coffee or a tea while I wait I'm not fussed.
Yeah it's better if you can play them all without moving, but is it £200 better... Nah