Columnar Basalt - Geologist explains spectacular stone columns

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 28. 05. 2013
  • Formation of Columnar Basalt is quickly described in this 2 Minute Geology episode.
    Columnar Basalt is the result of cooling and cracking of an unusually thick basaltic lava flow. Columns are often 50 feet high or more! The Columbia River Basalt Group of Washington and Oregon (USA) is a stack of more than 300 individual lava flows. The flows issued forth from deep fissures that began forming 17 million years ago in southeast Washington and northeast Oregon. Columns are well-developed in some of the flows and non-existant in many others. The Roza Flow is the most famous Columbia River Basalt flow for column formation. Notable columns around the world include Devil's Tower in Wyoming and Giant's Causeway in Ireland.
    This episode begins with Nick at the foot of some Columnar Basalt in the Columbia Wildlife Refuge northeast of Othello, WA. The Elephant Mountain basalt flow is featured - a flow that has particularly beautiful columns, although the columns are thinner than Roza columns. This region - the Drumheller Channels - was hit hard by the Ice Age Floods that swept through the area between 17,000 and 15,000 years ago. The floods took many columns away, but these majestic columns remain. Lower Crab Creek is nearby - an old course of the Columbia River.
    The episode continues with Nick climbing to the top of the Elephant Mountain flow. The tops of columns have well-defined polygonal shapes: pentagons, hexagons, octagons, etc. Cracks with these shapes in nature usually indicate contraction of surfaces - in this case, a cooling lava flow that took perhaps up to 100 years to completely cool. Columnar Basalt forms in the lower section of basalt flows - know as the Colonnade. Higher in basalt flows, a more densely clustered sets of joints and fractures - the Entablature - suggests a more intricate and complicated cooling history of the lava long ago.
    Filmed in September, 2012
    Episode written by Nick Zentner and Tom Foster.
    Video, Sound, & Editing: Tom Foster

Komentáře • 1K

  • @hestheMaster
    @hestheMaster Před 2 lety +64

    Update! Nick lost a hammer the day before this video and was found by a guy named Andrew who used hard drive
    magnets connected to a strong rope to fish it out of the crack in the Basalt columns. That was back in 2017.
    Nick got it back from Andrew in December of 2021.

  • @won-ton-wisdom7634
    @won-ton-wisdom7634 Před 4 lety +105

    Imagine dropping your phone down that

  • @rambacu
    @rambacu Před 6 lety +78

    I love the way he says "Hello young People..." what a great guy!

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety +3

      Ha! Not always great in person!

    • @AChippendale
      @AChippendale Před 4 lety +1

      yes, not condescending at all!

    • @orguksilverbeard7658
      @orguksilverbeard7658 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Ellensburg44 I’m 19 not in college and I still enjoy listening to your lectures!

    • @jhawkins0605
      @jhawkins0605 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm in my 30's, in a different profession, and I still love this. It doesn't seem demeaning to me, rather that he's a very educated person offering great information to others.

  • @milliethompson-krug9710
    @milliethompson-krug9710 Před 2 lety +12

    I am a past college student of yours, now showing your videos to my middle school science students in southwest Missouri. Thanks for all you do!!

  • @pingzhou3024
    @pingzhou3024 Před 2 lety +11

    I searched online for so long looking for an explanation on Giant's Causeway and couldn't find anything concrete. You literally explained it in 10 seconds. Thank you.

    • @mab_visuals
      @mab_visuals Před 2 lety +2

      lava doesn't cool like that anywhere in the world right now, this theory is beyond BS.

    • @theTavis01
      @theTavis01 Před 2 lety +3

      @@mab_visuals it's documented happening in Hawaii

    • @fruitkid4759
      @fruitkid4759 Před rokem +2

      ​@@theTavis01how does lava cool into perfect hexagons 😂

    • @theTavis01
      @theTavis01 Před rokem +3

      @@fruitkid4759 the top cools first, because it is exposed to air. This causes the top layer to shrink as it hardens. The "hexagons" are a pattern known as a Voronoi tesselation, which is commonly found in nature, and is a natural result of the shrinkage, almost directly analogous to the cracks that form in mud when it dries. As the lava continues to cool top down, the cracks propagate down to form columns. Researchers have recreated the phenomenon with corn starch and water.

    • @legendll1
      @legendll1 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@theTavis01
      Dude his explanation and yours is nothing more then a hypothesis
      A poor one at that
      The hexagonal patterns that are formed are found on all living things and it has more to do so with the vibrations and rhythm of the earth
      Now you know why snow flakes form the same hexagonal patterns
      But anyway
      I guarantee your buddy would'nt be able to give a reasonable explanation for how these circular hexagonal basalt columns were formed that were found in Iran 😅

  • @jessgallaher9468
    @jessgallaher9468 Před 2 lety +8

    These are ancient trees I know it seems impossible but once you look it up it will blow your mind silica based tree life.miles across and miles tall

    • @emsa5034
      @emsa5034 Před 2 lety

      Lol I just came from that conspiracy

    • @GEOWORLD69
      @GEOWORLD69 Před 2 lety

      yep, scientism. They always making up numbers like millions and billions of years and they cant prove it. There is no evidence. its all speculation. i dont know if this things are ancient trees. one thing for sure, its not volcanic.

    • @sbdreamin
      @sbdreamin Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@emsa5034 a conspiracy is 2 or more people planning on doing something illegal. So what you really mean is you just came from that theory

  • @cheebahjones420
    @cheebahjones420 Před 3 lety +5

    "These things are 50 feet deep" as he eyes his hammer at the bottom 🤣🤣🤣

  • @cassidyrose5506
    @cassidyrose5506 Před rokem +3

    After being awed by these basalt columns after so many visits to Eastern Washington I finally decided to look up how they were formed. Thanks for the video.

  • @GarrisonFall
    @GarrisonFall Před 6 lety +3

    I've wondered about these formation types for years and now I know. Thanks!

  • @prsearls
    @prsearls Před 3 lety +5

    Nick, you make geology so interesting. I've learned a lot watching your videos and have been amazed at the facts you've talked about. There is so much we take for granted and never pay any attention to about how our planet was formed. The colossal forces and millions of years of time is beyond most of our comprehension. Our general lack of curiosity must be maddening to you. Thanks for educating us.

  • @BavoDebraekeleer
    @BavoDebraekeleer Před 7 lety +6

    Love that you made and sang your own intro/outro song!

  • @DeebeeNonya
    @DeebeeNonya Před 3 lety +2

    Columnar basalt is very cool. Thanks for a very informative video on what they are!

  • @ThomasHaberkorn
    @ThomasHaberkorn Před 10 lety +47

    but why the quasi-hexagonal shapes?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 10 lety +9

      Wish I could answer, Thomas. Advanced math needed. Fractals....
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractals

    • @spencereng
      @spencereng Před 9 lety +14

      For some reason fractals, the golden ratio, and fibonacci numbers always show up in nature. It's pretty interesting to Google.

    • @CubeRepublic
      @CubeRepublic Před 9 lety +2

      because of contraction

    • @ThomasHaberkorn
      @ThomasHaberkorn Před 9 lety +3

      sure, but I was looking for a mathematical way to show why these shapes occur

    • @CubeRepublic
      @CubeRepublic Před 9 lety +5

      ThomasHaberkorn you would probably need to get into the minerals contained in the lava, and their structure to find your answer. They probably arrange themselves in certain repetitive patterns It's many years since I studied geology.

  • @kevinspringer2002
    @kevinspringer2002 Před 3 lety +3

    This guy is awesome! He’s awakened in me an interest in geology. Thanks man!

  • @peterupton2420
    @peterupton2420 Před 7 lety +1

    Thank you! Enjoyed the show.

  • @CloydWaldoisWedgeta
    @CloydWaldoisWedgeta Před 10 lety +2

    Amazing stuff, thanks

  • @righteousred723
    @righteousred723 Před 3 lety +10

    No offense, since I love your content and havent taken much issue with it, but those are not simply cracks when viewed from above. Explaining that because the shape exists in nature doesnt explain how they formed.
    You can see actual cracks in the individual columns that look nothing like the separation. You see no cracks or fractures which go through more than one column--not even one from before the columns had separated?
    Why did they form vertical columns when lava is laid down horizontally for the most part?
    How did a massive volume of lava cool so evenly?
    Why isn't it more common???

    • @ClaybornSol
      @ClaybornSol Před 2 lety +10

      It’s an old tree

    • @mitchellongstad3045
      @mitchellongstad3045 Před 2 lety +4

      I think i know what youre looking for...
      So the lava came out of the volcano or whatever and laid flat on the ground. As you said. Then like how you see in videogames, the surface of said flat lava started to get those patches of darker lava. Those darker patches are the top of these columnar basalts. The reason these columns seem "tall" is because what you are actually seeing is the thickness of the lava flow. The lava was 20ft deep or so. Then as the years passed, no additional lava must have flowed over the tops of those cooling patches i mentioned before and they "dried" from the top down. Not growing up from the ground like you described.
      this is my understanding anyways.

    • @SlavaBogu888
      @SlavaBogu888 Před 2 lety +2

      It is well know that hexagonal shapes belong only to nature and live organisms, lava does not have a brain to think and form like that. This was an old tree, same as devlis tower same as Fingals Cave and other examples across the world.

    • @righteousred723
      @righteousred723 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SlavaBogu888 so, Saturn could be sentient...

    • @ChessJunky509
      @ChessJunky509 Před rokem

      @@ClaybornSol ....You are an id!ot!!

  • @KE0RGP
    @KE0RGP Před 4 lety +4

    We need someone like you to do lectures and videos in Colorado. Thank you for these

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

  • @Ellensburg44
    @Ellensburg44 Před 10 lety +13

    Delineater, the bedrock of central Washington is a stack of think lava flows - one on top of another. In this video, the valley is where one lava layer (with the columns) has been removed by the Ice Age Floods. But there are thousands of feet of lava rock beneath the valley...

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety +1

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

    • @dionysis8680
      @dionysis8680 Před 2 lety

      everything you cant explain is lava that was sapped by ice..

    • @brad144k
      @brad144k Před 2 lety

      @@frensil9354 No, they are petrified tree stumps. The trees back in time were probably as big as in that Avatar movie. They lie about all of earth's history. Not saying this guy is...he possibly may not understand what he is observing in these photos. The cabal has chopped down God's green earth throughout time and excavating made the rivers and valleys, and canyons. All was flat land at one point in time. They mined and excavated the earth to an extreme. Any videos I could post would be instantly deleted by YT algorithms 🙄

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Před 5 měsíci

      Look up the Decan traps in India... The Earth has gone through sime huge periods of Vulcanicity in the past ...
      Basalt is basically most of the oceanic crust and the product of most constructive plate margins.

  • @lancefall4811
    @lancefall4811 Před 5 lety +31

    I'll be waiting patiently for your lesson on Lava Flows that go Uphill !

    • @thinkstrong280
      @thinkstrong280 Před 4 lety +11

      haha yep! these are trees! this silly fake science will not trick us with open minds

    • @michellerichter6491
      @michellerichter6491 Před 4 lety +2

      Lance Fall
      SpotOn ! CrackinUp!
      Lava ...🤦🏻‍♀️.. I can’t even .
      Defin trees :)
      Thank you !

    • @tenshikeki27
      @tenshikeki27 Před 4 lety +7

      🤭 mudfossiluniversity has a better explanation...

    • @northernminnesotasasquatch2532
      @northernminnesotasasquatch2532 Před 4 lety +1

      @@tenshikeki27 yep I agree

    • @MachiriReviews
      @MachiriReviews Před 4 lety +2

      You dropped your clown license, flat earther.

  • @GoogleAccount-qe1uy
    @GoogleAccount-qe1uy Před 8 lety +15

    I like your rocks brother

  • @scorrice
    @scorrice Před 11 lety +3

    Cool! Always wondered how those formed.

    • @MatthewB-Kornafel-xv6oi
      @MatthewB-Kornafel-xv6oi Před 3 lety

      Dont listen to this guy. Go search JayDreamerZ on youtube, ull have it explained to you. Time for you to wake up.

  • @stevescyphers4702
    @stevescyphers4702 Před 7 lety +2

    Nice work on a very interesting topic!

  • @valentia1752
    @valentia1752 Před 3 lety

    Two minutes of joy!

  • @markvasquez584
    @markvasquez584 Před 8 lety +13

    Thank you for sharing this in youtube. I hope people will stop sharing all those video that think its a prehistoric tree.

  • @KFrost-fx7dt
    @KFrost-fx7dt Před 3 lety +4

    Wait. How tall are these things? That was one hell of a lava flow!

    • @brad144k
      @brad144k Před 2 lety

      It is a petrified tree stump. They have been lying about earth's history since the beginning of time.

  • @OutThereLearning
    @OutThereLearning Před 9 měsíci

    Great video Nick!

  • @JuanTheBone
    @JuanTheBone Před 4 lety +1

    what a wholesome channel

  • @a113437175
    @a113437175 Před 7 lety +6

    From a laymen scratching his head. Is there an underground hexagon-shaped mold like substance that caused the hexagonal columns? I would have to assume that this photo is only 'the tip of the iceberg'. What is underneath the structure? What is the composition of multiple stone samples? What is the approx age of the stone samples? Was structure taller and it succumbed to erosion, earthquakes, etc.? There's evidence of fallen stone pieces around the structure does the sediment below the fallen pieces and around the structure match the stone composition and therefore a taller structure?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety +1

      Thanks for the questions. These columns are found around the world where exceptionally thick basalt lavas flowed over the land surface. Often, the columns are just a part of the thick lava flows. The columns for commonly from the base of the flow upwards....and sometimes from the top down. In our video, the columns are the lower portion of the lava flow...and the upper portion was eroded away during the Ice Age Floods from Montana. There has been a century of careful field work by geologists to compiled all of these field observations.

    • @gannonsmith4091
      @gannonsmith4091 Před 7 lety +1

      If you look at formations of columns in the Columbia George you can see how some are only a few feet thick in some area's and 50+ in others. These layers are sandwiched between an older flow below and a newer flow above you can see the difference that cooling time has on lava by studying these layers. Some water falls have under cut the columns even giving you a view from below.

    • @TheTamjorfam
      @TheTamjorfam Před 7 lety +1

      or the plant was broken into pieces and then rapidly buried in a world wide flood . think its common sense

    • @LyubomirIko
      @LyubomirIko Před 6 lety +4

      Nope, it is not a ancient tree.They have recreated easily the hexagonal -structure in controlled environment, so it is indeed a cooling process!
      www.physics.utoronto.ca/~nonlin/PNASpress/PNASpress.html

    • @DRTMaverick
      @DRTMaverick Před 4 lety

      @@TheTamjorfam what the fuck kinda shit are you smoking

  • @sandyacombs
    @sandyacombs Před 6 lety +4

    Are there any controlled laboratory experiments to confirm your hypothesis?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety +1

      Yes. Watch a columnar basalt video by physics professor in Toronto.

    • @thinkstrong280
      @thinkstrong280 Před 4 lety +2

      fake science in this video. its organic tree compounds.

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

    • @BlGGESTBROTHER
      @BlGGESTBROTHER Před 4 lety +3

      Here's a link to a video on the experiment Mr. Zentner was referring to: czcams.com/video/c3TpGtUZEjc/video.html

    • @swirvinbirds1971
      @swirvinbirds1971 Před 4 lety +1

      @@thinkstrong280 Made out of basalt and not carbon. 😒

  • @travissavacool6425
    @travissavacool6425 Před 3 měsíci

    Really simple visual explanation but comparing the view from a distance to what you see standing on it. Thank you

  • @mwhitby502
    @mwhitby502 Před 2 měsíci

    Fair does mate, that was kinda weird but kinda heartwarming at the same time, wel done.

  • @cliffhappy
    @cliffhappy Před 9 lety +3

    Why are they column? Why they are contracting in 2-dimension without variation in vertical direction?

    • @PerryCS2
      @PerryCS2 Před 8 lety

      If they shrunk in all directions they would still form what you see today, they may shrink in height a tad but would still form the shape you see today.

    • @dannyfisher7254
      @dannyfisher7254 Před 5 lety +2

      I think to do with cooling from the top down and therefore horizontal strain (tension).

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety +1

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

  • @DesmondCreighton
    @DesmondCreighton Před 10 lety +3

    Please add blooper video of Nick Zentner dropping the hammer into the basalt columns at 2:00 , saw at a conference was hilarious.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 10 lety +3

      Hey DesmondCreighton. I'm still trying to convince Tom to post it!

    • @astrokmb1
      @astrokmb1 Před 10 lety +1

      Oh that sounds fantastic! The lighter side of science :-)

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 9 lety +2

      Wore him down! Blooper video is now on You Tube.

    • @1960markN
      @1960markN Před 5 lety

      czcams.com/video/qJWtgvsm_ms/video.html

  • @JohnSmith-wx4ts
    @JohnSmith-wx4ts Před 3 lety +1

    My friend, I subscribed to to your channel 5 seconds into the video. Perfect home school addition.

  • @David-ex7xy
    @David-ex7xy Před 4 lety +2

    Congratulation for keeping your hamper!

  • @yngvamonsees4268
    @yngvamonsees4268 Před 10 lety +5

    i was hoping he'd describe thow the collumnar basalt forms:p

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 10 lety +2

      Cooling cracks from the bottom of the lava flow upwards!

    • @PerryCS2
      @PerryCS2 Před 8 lety

      He did... through cooling down, it contracts, just like the drying mud forms similar shapes...

  • @RobertSmith-ui9gx
    @RobertSmith-ui9gx Před 5 lety +3

    Quick and to the point. My area of expertise in biology and chemistry. I had to take a geology class to get my degrees.This was a well made video.

  • @JosePerez-ld8qg
    @JosePerez-ld8qg Před 8 měsíci +1

    ....I don't prescribe to hero worship or fanaticism. But I do reluctantly encourage having role models. You sir, are a role model, and more!!! - a scholar and a gentleman! Thank you!

  • @Dchellberg
    @Dchellberg Před 8 lety

    Really cool to see what cooling can do!

  • @elgroxo
    @elgroxo Před 8 lety +6

    Expect a lot of views since the videogame Uncharted 4 have a lot of basalt columns

  • @MisterGazda
    @MisterGazda Před 8 lety +5

    Great video that I use when teaching my earth science students about columnar basalt. Fantastic visuals of the columns themselves. Thanks!

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety +1

      Nice to hear. Thanks.

    • @eugenegoodman2510
      @eugenegoodman2510 Před 6 lety

      There is no any explanation in video about it appearence, if you think it has. Desert shrinks consists of dust, not magmas basalt(!), and dust never formed like a line when water out it - devil tower as an example of line-form a huge size! So, try to explaine again.

    • @scottyboy2400
      @scottyboy2400 Před 6 lety

      So if you are a science teacher why do you teach pseudoscience" (You probably teach science fiction too.)
      I mean seriously! Surely you of all people know the difference correct?
      If so, then explain why you think this "theory"of how these were formed falls into the category of science? In case you still don't get it, please tell me how this can be proven?
      W A K E U P !

    • @JoeDeglman
      @JoeDeglman Před 6 lety

      These hexagonal columns are usually found near where cliffs and sediment meet water next to it.
      czcams.com/video/ZHZIv-qk2jM/video.html
      So this was probably caused by electrical activity with molten material from above stuck to a mound or something that stuck above the flood waters. It was cooling quickly by the water as the flood waters at the time rose, building this as the flood waters rose.

    • @rodneylee7725
      @rodneylee7725 Před 6 lety

      PROVE IT is volcanic don"t be a sheeple,teach them interesting things like truth ,in a world of endless dis info.

  • @pb-bx8sv
    @pb-bx8sv Před 3 lety +1

    Very nice

  • @andrewbeaton3302
    @andrewbeaton3302 Před 3 lety

    Great video! Great voice!

  • @nathannicolodemos1478
    @nathannicolodemos1478 Před 5 lety +7

    Wow this comment section is a cesspool. I'm a geology student and just wanted to know how these form lol.

  • @mfm9716
    @mfm9716 Před 6 lety +17

    To everybody saying these are tree stumps.. have you ever seen trees that big growing that close from each other? Just because you don't understand something does not mean its false. Trees are not hexagonal either.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety +2

      Thanks for the comments.

    • @raykdreisatzgehtanders7239
      @raykdreisatzgehtanders7239 Před 6 lety +1

      mf m
      The think the whole formation was a giant tree and the hexagons were the cells (which makes no sense at all).

    • @legendll1
      @legendll1 Před 9 měsíci

      Do you believe people come from Africa too
      Did they just sprout up.out the land one day 😂
      Do you believe people evolved from apes
      So at one point in time we weren't wearing jackets or cooking our food
      And now we have to wear clothes and cook our food
      People will buy dumb incomplete idiotic explanation
      Anything that evolves to the environment acquires attributes that will help them survive in thier habit
      Humans are the least evolved species

    • @Corkedwolf43771
      @Corkedwolf43771 Před 3 měsíci

      It IS A TREE STUMP get over it lava does NOT FLOW up in hexagonal shape! It just doesn't

  • @bbob5050
    @bbob5050 Před 8 lety +1

    I love these videos keep it up

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 8 lety +3

      +Billy Bob Thanks. More videos coming soon.

  • @camille5000
    @camille5000 Před rokem

    thank you very much! very helpful :)

  • @deepquake9
    @deepquake9 Před 3 lety +3

    So this was take two after that famous hammer disappeared 😂😂😂😘

  • @Lady8D
    @Lady8D Před 6 lety +5

    Thanks for sharing these!
    I wish our schools did a better job teaching the scientific method, seems a lot of commentors don't quite understand how it works. Unfortunate really.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety

      Agree. Thanks.

    • @Lady8D
      @Lady8D Před 6 lety

      Nick Zentner
      I'm glad you replied, I'd forgotten to subscribe and your comment helped me realize so! 2nd time that's happened today, oí

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety +1

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

  • @cbrue1896
    @cbrue1896 Před 11 lety

    I will have to check this out sometime. I see a an earthcache being put there sometime! Thanks for the info Professor Zentner!

  • @aborne
    @aborne Před 10 měsíci

    The guitar music is a nice touch. I enjoyed your video, and learned something! 🙂

  • @williambryant1584
    @williambryant1584 Před 7 lety +3

    wow there are so many hate comments. why all the ignorance people?

  • @Elrond_Hubbard1
    @Elrond_Hubbard1 Před 7 lety +3

    Hi Nick, love your videos and lectures. As a rock hound and somebody who loves the inner workings of our planet , I simply can't get enough of these. Reading through these comments on the other hand, makes me want to drink bleach. The guy who thinks the basalt columns are ancient trees is my personal favorite. Have you gotten any of the Alex Jones faithful asking about the hollow Earth theory yet? If you see any lizard people emerging while on one of your outings, please let us know. Don't sell us out to the men in black!

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety

      Ha! No hollow earth stuff yet. These comment sections are interesting.

  • @billmiller4972
    @billmiller4972 Před 4 lety

    Very often one is told that those columnar basalts are the result of quick cooling. The video says it's due to slow cooling (at least I'd see 100 years as slow).
    So what is correct?

  • @wefuntw
    @wefuntw Před 2 lety

    seems this is the only video that explains columns of basalt in 2 minutes! good work.

  • @stewartmckenna3634
    @stewartmckenna3634 Před 4 lety +3

    There are a great pile of silly comments below, mostly not worth reading, but if you want a good primer from around 1920 then google "Factors Producing Columnar Structures in Lavas Albert V.G.James The Journal of Geology Vol 28 No.5 (Jul-Aug 1920) pp.458-469./ This more or less nails the process!

    • @MatthewB-Kornafel-xv6oi
      @MatthewB-Kornafel-xv6oi Před 3 lety

      Shh

    • @legendll1
      @legendll1 Před 9 měsíci

      Lmao
      Does he explain how circular basalt columns are formed 😅
      So take a look at the circular basalt column that was found in Iran in the picture I will post below
      Then give me an explanation so I can laugh😂

    • @stewartmckenna3634
      @stewartmckenna3634 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@legendll1 single column or very many alongside?no picture seen

  • @abbyfthenewnormal3186
    @abbyfthenewnormal3186 Před 6 lety +13

    It amazes me that so many people are so incredibly foolish. This explains why the flat earth theory has blown up. Some people will believe anything! Show me one single cut down tree that doesn't have rings, but hexagonal columns!

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety +13

      I'm great with creative thinking and against-the-grain thoughts...but the unwillingness to look at facts in the field is the deal-breaker for me.

    • @anauzura8964
      @anauzura8964 Před 4 lety +1

      Ok, here. And sorry for the delay. You're welcome www.macmillanhighered.com/BrainHoney/Resource/6716/digital_first_content/trunk/test/hillis2e/asset/img_ch24/c24_fig15.jpg

    • @electricityofmind6300
      @electricityofmind6300 Před 4 lety

      google columnar cornstarch

    • @buckshoticus1065
      @buckshoticus1065 Před 4 lety +1

      Ana Uzura This stump HAS rings and literally no hexagonal columns.

  • @tristanchildress2844
    @tristanchildress2844 Před 3 měsíci

    Guitars and bowties. Love it Nick lol

  • @rudilapa6569
    @rudilapa6569 Před 8 lety +1

    Nik - the basalt columns indicate a 'long' undisturbed cooling period. What are the guesstimated durations of each active flow? And then, how long does it take for the columns to start forming? Thank you!

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 8 lety +2

      +Rudi Lapa
      We may never know the answers to your questions, Rudi. These lava flows are so large compared to Hawaii. The best guesses out there: a week for the flow to cross the state, and columns forming over years as the lava cools.

  • @HyperCircle
    @HyperCircle Před 7 lety +16

    I can't believe the comments on this page. LOL. Yes columnar basalt formed from cooling lava flows. This is a fairly well known fact. There are literally hundreds of thousands of places where this can be seen. You can even use geologic mapping to see where the flows came from and roughly estimate when the flow happened. The columns form more uniformly near the bottom as it cools slowly. Fractures form as it contracts and the cracks grow upwards along the same edge. Usually near the top crudely shaped polygonal columns grow. In the middle you get a haywire of shapes. Some areas cooled slowly so you only see the columns. The columns can vary between 4 to 7 sided, but I usually see 5 and 6 sided. It cools in columns because that's how that material cracks when it cools slowly.
    I just don't understand why people have gotten this attitude that their guess is more educated than somebody that has actually studied using the scientific method. Yes be skeptical, science is about being skeptical. But don't come in with absurdly false facts that are borderline childish and expect us to take you seriously.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety +5

      Thanks for the comments. I'm doing my best to reply to all comments. Perhaps a few people will be willing to see the application of logic and careful observation.

    • @ajbuehre1018
      @ajbuehre1018 Před 3 lety +1

      DAMN you obviously watch cnn and comply with LIES that have been perpetuated since your early school days. WAKE UP..THINK FOR YOURSELF FOR ONCE. EVERYTHING YOU WERE TAUGHT IS A LIE. APES to humans..no way..darwin was a FOOL..other living species no possible in our entire solar system...more ignorante and false teachings. im done WAKE THE HELL UP...

    • @IAmAboriginal-ov1vw
      @IAmAboriginal-ov1vw Před 3 lety +2

      U sound foolish as a the people u are condemning if u believe these hexagonal collumns are the end result of lava cooling...🤣🤣🤣

  • @fabbansuri4811
    @fabbansuri4811 Před 4 lety +5

    drying mud never goes hexagonal though...

    • @richardlilley6274
      @richardlilley6274 Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly...
      Seems logic isn't needed for theories.
      Just compliance with academia
      Don't say what you see
      Just repeat what your told..
      And we wonder why sociaty is on its arse.. Hummmm!

  • @harrygary1052
    @harrygary1052 Před 7 lety +1

    Ok if some not as young learn too lol? Much of the information concerning ice age flooding wasn't readily available even a bit over a decade ago when I was in high school. Nor is most of the information discussed in these videos outside of a geology course. My wife and I yesterday completed a back and forth trek across the entire us (wa-nh) and we were both struck by the fact that no geology proved as amazing too us as the dramatic layering, upheavals, and hydrodynamic discharge so readily apparent as you travel along the gorge. Very excited to come across your videos explaining many of the very features we had been photographing and discussing earlier in the day. Some of the most awe inspiring events in geology right here where we grew up.

  • @dongillihan3329
    @dongillihan3329 Před 3 lety

    Amazing

  • @danzac1857
    @danzac1857 Před 4 lety +4

    You guys are crazy if you think those are fossilized trees. Anybody that had any brains would know that those basaltic columns are really part of a fossilized giant beehive!
    ;)

  • @truthwillsetyoufree8030
    @truthwillsetyoufree8030 Před 7 lety +11

    I think the hexagonal shape makes perfect sense for a pool of cooling lava. As the lava cools it contracts, thus the creation of the cracks. The hexagonal shape is the most logical result if you consider that the cracks will attempt to be as uniformly equal on all sides of the column. Certainly makes more sense than circles or triangles. The bed of lava would have cooled from the outside in, creating the initial cracks, and the outlying columns would have been less uniform and geometric, also more suspectible to weather and likely fell away as the many years passed. All that remains are the nicely formed hexagonal shaped columns that you see here. As to what makes them so long, that is merely dependant upon how deep the lava was. They arent trees. Yes, science in observation is partially educated guesses, but that is not justification to throw it out the window and come up with your own wildy outlandish theories that have absolutely no foundation in reality, and then use those theories as stepping stones to an even more ridiculous belief, such as ancient aliens or flat earth.

    • @TheTamjorfam
      @TheTamjorfam Před 7 lety +2

      you are fucking brilliant, just kidding ! lol

    • @CubeRepublic
      @CubeRepublic Před 6 lety +2

      The shape is similar to voronoi patterns.

  • @latvianminecrafter8040
    @latvianminecrafter8040 Před 3 lety +1

    Greetings from Latvia!

  • @naturalstones9971
    @naturalstones9971 Před rokem

    In my area lot basalt rocks and stones there but there no volconlo matain? How it came these big basalt mountains

  • @MrTropheusguy
    @MrTropheusguy Před 6 lety +3

    lava cooling in vertical columns is almost impossible to believe, you need a vivid imagination

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

    • @theTavis01
      @theTavis01 Před 2 lety

      the lava flows and lays horizontally, then the top cools first and forms surface cracks. As the lava cools it shrinks, pulling in from the cracks, and the cracks propagate downwards with the cooling.

    • @theTavis01
      @theTavis01 Před 2 lety

      @@frensil9354 no

  • @harrygary1052
    @harrygary1052 Před 7 lety +11

    Also, holy crap are a lot of these comments complete nonsense. Childish drivel trying to use and incorrectly interpret geology to disapprove geology while ignoring verifiable evidence in favor of nonsense, and stretches of the imagination to try and prove gibberish. Boring.

  • @shidogrey
    @shidogrey Před 7 lety

    Thanks for the video this helped explain some rocks I always wondered about on mt peak in enumclaw wa.

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

  • @pollyb.4648
    @pollyb.4648 Před 2 lety

    I thought it sounded like Nick singing but I thought, no! But yes, I think so, by the last pic! What a talented guy!!

  • @Loveyou-bb9bg
    @Loveyou-bb9bg Před 4 lety +5

    The mountains were alive! :-)

    • @mtlnu
      @mtlnu Před 2 lety

      YES! YES! YES!!! The ones that snapped during the great flood are now our "mountains!"

  • @Emanator
    @Emanator Před 4 lety +4

    When an NPC is talking and there's an awkward pause every sentence: 0:10 - 0:15

  • @kevinroserose9275
    @kevinroserose9275 Před 6 lety +1

    Can anyone provide directions on how to get to this from Othello?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety

      Columbia Wildlife Refuge NW of Othello. You'll find it if you head out there.

  • @UTubeGlennAR
    @UTubeGlennAR Před 6 lety

    Interesting, Thank Yoo.........
    Do you know if this same column lave will be happning with all the new lava that started early May 2o18 that is currently covering the N. E. corner from fissure 8 on the Big Island of Hawaii in the future? Or perhaps Hot Spot Lava has an entirely different make up than Suduction Zone lava near an ocean?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 5 lety

      Columns form in thick flows...much thicker than at Kilauea.

    • @UTubeGlennAR
      @UTubeGlennAR Před 5 lety

      @@Ellensburg44, So does the irregular pentagon start at the end cooling the fastest and progress on to the end thast is cooling teh slowest (up or down?) or does gravity for some reason start it at either the top or bottom for some reason than progress to the other end and if so for what reason? Sorry, just interested in knowing why, not at all doubting your wisdome one bit.......... Aloha, Glennnnn

  • @MediocreMonday
    @MediocreMonday Před 8 lety +25

    Giant petrified tree?

    • @TheHardTruth315
      @TheHardTruth315 Před 8 lety +7

      No. that retarded Russian is on crack. yes, i saw that video too. LOL!

    • @MediocreMonday
      @MediocreMonday Před 8 lety +6

      vascone315 Great video it was, in my opinion. There are some that can see though the lies.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 8 lety +7

      Careful study of these basalt columns in the field is needed by the Russian gentleman.

    • @brettsee5508
      @brettsee5508 Před 8 lety +1

      Yep most likely. The ''scienticians'' lie about everything. The age and shape of the earth, evolution, cosmology you name it. It's a baloney factory working 24/7 and staffed by well-paid loyal workers. (Freemasons etc)

    • @TheHardTruth315
      @TheHardTruth315 Před 8 lety +7

      Where are remains of the 25,000 foot high trees? The Skeletons of the 5 mile high beings that cut them down? The machinery?
      There are none. Because, its Bullshit. lmfao

  • @alexpbeats5678
    @alexpbeats5678 Před 8 lety +26

    I don't think this is made from lava

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 8 lety +14

      Alex, careful study in the field of these columns reveal gas bubbles, tiny crystals, chemical signatures, etc all that match the Hawaii lavas erupting today. These columns are for sure made of lava rock. Thanks for watching.

    • @ToddWoodworthg3
      @ToddWoodworthg3 Před 6 lety +6

      No way nick no match . I go with the tree theory.

    • @bounic56
      @bounic56 Před 6 lety

      this is stupid.

    • @sandplanet471
      @sandplanet471 Před 6 lety

      Todd Woodworth
      🤣🖕

    • @bert3434
      @bert3434 Před 6 lety

      can't we just recreate this in a lab on a micro scale to settle this ?

  • @Dr_Xyzt
    @Dr_Xyzt Před 5 lety +2

    So, where is the structure that held the edge of this lava flow up so it had a long enough time to develop an even temperature and crack like that? In other words, have you folks had any luck finding the border of the lava columns, and the edge of the pre-lava ground before it eroded away or crumbled as a landslide?

    • @calvinkuntze1990
      @calvinkuntze1990 Před 5 lety

      It depends on a lot of things what this sort of edge would look like. A lot of lava types can actually stand self-supported tens of feet - I've seen a 200 foot thick lava flow before (i.e. without a channel or something to force it to get thick).
      That said, these are basalt and not the right kind of lava. These flows are humongous, so in most places the lava was held up by other cooling lava, and we see what has eroded away - no matter how you erode in from sides or above, it will always look columnar.

    • @brad144k
      @brad144k Před 2 lety +1

      It's a petrified tree stump...

    • @Dr_Xyzt
      @Dr_Xyzt Před 2 lety

      @@calvinkuntze1990 So, in that case, it's a topographical coin toss... Sorry for the late reply. Blame YT.

    • @SlavaBogu888
      @SlavaBogu888 Před 2 lety +1

      @@brad144k Exactly

  • @shidogrey
    @shidogrey Před 7 lety +1

    what about horizontal formations?

  • @kresokresic2072
    @kresokresic2072 Před 7 lety +4

    you go finde lava that do that film it and il agree with you

  • @Steven-zk3wh
    @Steven-zk3wh Před 3 lety +8

    It wasn't created by lava... The "columns" are cells... it used to be a giant tree. Look it up 😊 there's so much truth we don't know yet.

    • @dolorlux4612
      @dolorlux4612 Před 2 lety

      You're silly!

    • @mattrichey9501
      @mattrichey9501 Před 2 lety +2

      You're Correct sir....
      In the Jurassic period trees were MONSTROUS!! just like the creatures living...
      Pterodactyl live in the trees, probably thousands Global population. Do you see any trees, flocks of Pterodactyl could roost in? Life lived by a different scale. Question is.. WHO CUT THEM DOWN !!!

    • @mtlnu
      @mtlnu Před 2 lety +1

      BINGO!!!!

    • @dolorlux4612
      @dolorlux4612 Před 2 lety

      If there was a spec of evidence of this, geologists, evolutionary biologists, and scientists alike would be all over it. You're just a conspiracy theorist with a lack of understanding in scientific fundamentals.

    • @dolorlux4612
      @dolorlux4612 Před 2 lety

      Let me be clear, the difference between an educated theory and a conspiracy is one is refined through scrutiny and the other doesn't like to be scrutinized at all for fear of collapse. Learn the difference.

  • @samueltanh
    @samueltanh Před 9 lety

    Thanks for explaining. California has one too, Devil's post piles.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 9 lety

      So true!

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

  • @Ellensburg44
    @Ellensburg44 Před 11 lety

    We appreciate your support on Twitter, Sarah!

  • @1keinic1
    @1keinic1 Před 4 lety +4

    Looks like some people just don’t get the concept of basalt flowing upward through cracks in the earth and then piling up over the landscape. Oh well. Maybe a well done CGI video of the process might help them understand. But then again some will be intrinsically opposed to the idea, most commonly based on the stifling closed minded beliefs that their religion imposes on them. They will only find or support “scientific” evidence that supports what they have already been lead to believe. Curiously enough, it is easier for some to believe certain concepts through a demand in the belief of a written word of a higher power. VERY unscientific. A true scientist does not form hypotheses and theories based on preconceived notions of absolute dictation with no variance allowed by the word of a non corporeal mythical supreme being that has never been proven to exist. A true scientist constantly questions their own methods, and asks for the input of totally independent sources in pursuit of absolute truth.

  • @garyedmore8355
    @garyedmore8355 Před 8 lety +23

    you use the word 'probably' often...where does that fit in with fact...we want facts not probabilities.

    • @nuike49
      @nuike49 Před 8 lety +23

      Would you rather he lied and said this was 100% known fact? This is called intellectual honesty.

    • @garyedmore8355
      @garyedmore8355 Před 8 lety +1

      Just facts

    • @nuike49
      @nuike49 Před 8 lety +5

      So if someone says black is white, you will believe it as long as the word "probably" is not used?

    • @garyedmore8355
      @garyedmore8355 Před 8 lety

      Believing is the enemy of truth...you are making assumptions of how i tick.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 8 lety +15

      Thanks for the comments, Gary. Uncertainty remains regarding the formation of these beautiful columns...mainly since there is not a modern parallel anywhere on Earth today. We shared the dimensions of these columns (facts) and then attempted to summarize the current attempts to explain them (interpretation). I agree...the interpretations might change in the future as new data is collected....along with new experimentation. Thanks for watching.

  • @scotimages
    @scotimages Před 8 lety

    Nick, one thing that really interested me about your video is that the scale of the pattern is much largr than at Giant,s Causeway. Any thoughts about this?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 8 lety +1

      +Steve Campbell
      I've been reading about this, Steve. In general, the thicker the lava flow, the wider the columns. There's a great lecture online by Stephen Morris from Toronto on Columnar Jointing patterns in basalt. It includes the history of Giant's Causeway. Thanks for your question.

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety +1

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

  • @kylepease5436
    @kylepease5436 Před 10 lety +1

    Did you make it out that way? I've been to the Goose Lakes, but the columns are not nearly as solid as the ones here. There are a couple pictures on google earth near black lake showing solid columns as well.
    Thanks!
    -Kyle

  • @verpen8108
    @verpen8108 Před 4 lety +3

    Minecraft Nether update?

  • @rauchwolke9922
    @rauchwolke9922 Před 4 lety +4

    This is from titan tree,Mudfossil stone !

    • @BlGGESTBROTHER
      @BlGGESTBROTHER Před 4 lety

      Wait, you seriously think these are the petrified remains of animals and giant godmen?

  • @slayemin
    @slayemin Před 7 lety +1

    Fascinating! I have a couple questions:
    1) Why are the basalt columns the size they are (in terms of diameter)? Why aren't they smaller or larger? Is there something going on with the properties / composition of the material and the relationship with its diameter? Or does it have to do with cooling rates?
    2) This reminds me a lot of a Voronoi diagram. Have you guys ever tried to find the midpoints of each basalt column and gotten an average distance between midpoints? If so, are the midpoints consistent across the world with all basalt columns?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety +1

      Good questions. Physic professor Stephen Morris from Toronto has an excellent lecture on column experiments with corn starch, etc.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety

      It's on CZcams. Thanks for watching.

  • @robertoabraham2846
    @robertoabraham2846 Před 7 lety +1

    What are your sources and how was this study conducted?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety

      Stephen Morris, Steven Reidel, Donald Swanson, Terry Tolan, Marv Beeson, etc. Geologists and physicists. Many decades of careful field mapping. Some recent work with modeling how columns form in nature on all scales. Their scientific research is available online for free.

  • @mjb1831
    @mjb1831 Před 6 lety +4

    Lava flow does not form octagonal shapes! Disinformation video

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety +1

      It's a lava flow, not a pre flood ancient mineral pathways for translocation.

    • @stewartmckenna3634
      @stewartmckenna3634 Před 4 lety +2

      No But a large volume of liquid basalt magma cooling at the top first ( think cool night sky above and hot lava flow below) starts to crack or craze at the surface. Just like drying mud shrinks as it loses water. The cooling solidified basalt contracts and then fractures at the surface. The fractures then propagate downwards into the bed of rock mass as the magma slowly cools ( think tens or hundreds of years). Often the columns fragment laterally as well as they shrink vertically.

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

    • @godzofegypt1732
      @godzofegypt1732 Před 4 lety

      Biology looks amazing.
      czcams.com/video/n_YSlApPilA/video.html

  • @williams5732
    @williams5732 Před 7 lety +9

    lava he says lol

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety +3

      Based on careful examination in the field....yes, it's lava.

    • @ToddWoodworthg3
      @ToddWoodworthg3 Před 6 lety +2

      based on real examination and complete made up bs . lol its not lava and has never been. They are tree stumps.

    • @brake4beaver
      @brake4beaver Před 6 lety +6

      Tree stumps. Right.
      Never mind that trees cant grow as close together as these columns are. Trees don't grow in the shape of a hexagon. Growth rings are still clearly visible in petrified trees, but are non existent here. How do you explain that?

    • @LyubomirIko
      @LyubomirIko Před 6 lety

      The tree stump hypothesis is interesting one. Especially Devil's Tower formation have this curved columns at the bottom, it looks like one indeed. However I need more evidence of any of the two hypothesis.
      Is there evidence of newly real-time formation, somewhere?

    • @SixthyGTi
      @SixthyGTi Před 6 lety

      @Lyubomir:
      I think only open mind and lots of research and thinking can direct you somewhere...
      Science dismisses this theory and pretty much "all" the rest are calling this a bullshit theory (conspiracy?)...

  • @ByYourOwnLogic101
    @ByYourOwnLogic101 Před rokem

    I like you put the effort in at 1:21 to get that angle

  • @Ducksauce33
    @Ducksauce33 Před 6 lety +1

    how far do they go down in the ground?

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety +1

      The basalt layers go down over 2 miles below the surface....some of the layers have columns.

    • @frensil9354
      @frensil9354 Před 4 lety

      These are tendons, of giant petrified creatures! youtube: MFU(mudfossil university channel)

  • @frankescobedo5593
    @frankescobedo5593 Před 5 lety +7

    They did not form, that was something organic that turned to stone

    • @joeleoleo
      @joeleoleo Před 4 lety +1

      Igneous trees? Clearly you’re an idiot who’s never been to Eastern Washington and has no understanding of igneous rock yet feels entitled to have an opinion.

  • @j2stoud129
    @j2stoud129 Před 7 lety +23

    it's not lava. it was a living life form that was cut down before the flood of Noah..

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety +5

      But Jerome, if you visited these columns and inspected them closely on the inside, you would see rock and minerals identical to the lavas erupting in Hawaii today.

    • @j2stoud129
      @j2stoud129 Před 7 lety +6

      Nick Zentner show me the data side by side of your results from the Devils tower to the Hawaii's Lava ridges and rock. All these places around the world that have these types of hexagonal shapes are and we're living structures.They are different. Unless lava rock transforms into a different kind of rock. There is no way Lava reacts to settling like you say it does..and now you have been to Mars and can tell us that it's true and it's over on a planet you have never been too and on top of that, it not a planet . Mars is a wandering star of the Firmament built by the most high in Heaven..people reading this. Trust your eyes and question and demand truth in "real" data and not someone that is going to lead you wrong with probability and so called theoreadical science.

    • @dangerboy808
      @dangerboy808 Před 7 lety +2

      Jerome Stoudt your right im from hawaii and in no way does lava settle like these columns

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 7 lety +3

      No one is saying there are columns in Hawaii. Those lava flows are very thin compared to the very thick lavas of eastern Washington.

    • @j2stoud129
      @j2stoud129 Před 7 lety

      Hell is truth realized to late!! thanks for verifying!

  • @cowboygeologist7772
    @cowboygeologist7772 Před 9 lety

    I had been to Devil's Post Pile in California to see these. I found these in Nevada too near Lovelock when I was looking fot minerals.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 9 lety

      Didn't know about columns near Lovelock. Thanks.

  • @tolson57
    @tolson57 Před 6 lety

    Nick, Not that size matters, but, what causes the size difference in basalt columns? I see in your video that those columns are about 2 to 3 feet in diameter where as the columns at Devils Post Pile are about a foot and Devils Tower are 12 feet and larger. I have seen some in the Columbia river gorge that looked to be 6 inch's. Is it the cooling rate? The deeper the bed, the slower the cooling, the larger the columns? Realize Devils Tower is not a bed but a throat so it was buried and cooled even slower.

    • @Ellensburg44
      @Ellensburg44 Před 6 lety +1

      Ongoing research by many. Still unclear. Probably cooling rate vs thickness...but not constant from place to place. Good question. Thanks.