Do this about 20 more times per turn and you can survive as western rome on legendary. I've done this, it's fucking nuts but actually makes you a good total war player. I suggest not deploying the marines until the main mass of enemies charge one of your lines and you can use the marines to charge a flank for a moral shock.
That's not AI, that's just game mechanics. The unit routing is a result of clear morale buffs and debuffs interacting, once a unit hits 0 morale, it routs. You're bragging about beating the braindead TW AI using cheese strats that exploit the glaring limitations it has. There is no challenge in 90% of singleplayer, only advantage the enemy has is cheat funds even on easy. It's telling that in the show Time Commanders, it's not AI that controls the enemy, it's CA employees, they don't trust the AI to actually fight well enough to fill the time slot.
Ya? So why can I stop most TW players in multiplayer if I mostly play singleplayer? Because you need to understand game mechanics to use cheese strats. If you don't understand cheese strats than you don't understand how the game really works and you'll get fucked over every time by your own retarded units.
surviving with western rome is not that difficult. pull all your troops into the italian peninsula and defend from there. after some time you will take back the territory you have lost. same with the eastern rome. defend the turkish peninsula first and then grow back again
@@randomuser6175 Actually defending from Egypt is way easier because its by far the Richest province you own even if you give up on Constantinople you will still be raking in cash plus its easier to defend
@@bruhguy2356 Phyrric victory means, that you technically won a battle, but with too heavy casualties considering what you have won. In other words, you lost men but achieved nothing useful.
But the legio could've been used better. Since their plumbata don't do much against cavalry, it is prudent that you use them to plug the gap where your praventores were. Also, fighting cavalry with praventores is one of the worst ideas ever, they're far too squishy to hold the line properly
I’m sure the Huns have another stack a half turn away, pretty standard WRE campaign. Absolutely mind numbing how frequently you have to fight this exact battle.
Finally the correct use of that raised barricade. Put your damn archers on it and melee infantry in front. Thank you so much, I've seen it too many times where people would waste them but just putting melee infantry on them. Always pissed me off.
Correct use is to not have melee in front. If you have archers or javelins on it while enemies try to melee it down, they will instantly die when they get shot. You can destroy the strongest elite unites in the game with shitty archers if they are attacking the barricade.
meh...it's kinda circumstantial. if you don't have archers or javelinmen melee infantry on the barracudas work very well. for example I tend to use and favor units with throwing weapons during defensive battles even if their lower stats why? well because of the pila in legios case. if you don't have archers those are effective at at least taking a bite out of cavlry units. then once their out of ammunition I send them into the fight. it's why whenever I'm about to get stuck in a siege I always recruit a couple axe men maybe a cavlry unit if they got it and a but load of skirmishers and archers. nobody's getting into my main settlement without passing through my skirmishers vollys.
I wonder how the Curnutis can be a regular regiment that can be enrolled many times in the game while, in reality, they were just one famous regiment among many other.
@@Helgi105 In reality the Western empire didn't even last long enough for most of these units to become a thing anyway. a 'Historically accurate' campaign sees the goths under Alaric sacking Rome in 409, Gaul and Hispania completely out of Roman control, you're practically dead in 410
Quo Usque Pro Roma Ibis. Really well done commanding your Equites! Even though the title implied you winning this, I felt adrenaline watching your troops fight to the last man!
I usually pound my town defenders into single small area, in spite of leaving the victory point in open, so that i can avoid being flanked or having light troop defend against heavy ones. Note that this just works almost perfectly when their army aren't bow-concentrated one. You know why!
@@HakariKinjiGamble This is western auxilia palatina.... it would have made more sense to use a germanic voice rather than an eastern voice. It is an oversight.
God, this reminds me of how many times I've played the first battle of East Rome, against Alaric. Where you NEED to rout them and reduce them to basically nothing, or else you can never get anything done because your capital province looses a settlement, or you waste many turns chasing a raiding army around the map.
>Archers in a "gateway" >3 cav units just circlejerk each other while being under fire AI really is braindead, isn't it? Also, why the F is this suggested to me in 2019?
Depends on what faction you are. ERE and WRE have units that do OK against cavalry, specifically infantry that have defensive testudo. The highest tier legio, though weak as swords, could outlast even the most powerful cavalry in the game with defensive testudo , given the right circumstances are in place like choke points, slopes and defensive emplacements. That's what I'm used to in the game anyway
@@Jose-xh5qb BTW if there's too many of them, it'd be difficult to hold unless you have a battlemap that favours you, which isn't usually the case for the WRE
im on turn 40 as ERE and this is litteraly how im conquering the map the enemies keep attacking a garrisoned stack of comitensis spears and keep loosing to the testudo wall
Koray Sercan Kuru Tbh they are the handiest, especially if your infantry are completely out matched. I was attacked in Iuavum once where the huns had superior infantry, and my only prayer was my armored Sagittari. Was pretty lucky to, as it was crucial for raining down fire at the attackers.
Would've made a lot of different choices but still a good effort on your part. On the other hand, I've played so much Attila that maybe what's obvious to me isn't obvious to people who don't play this 25/7.
Þaymrick Ólafursson. i knew i could win, im on my first campaign as the eastern roman empire, on normal difficulty, i just didnt want to spend my whole game re building razed settlements
That Hunnic army was pretty fucking stupid. All you have to do as the Huns is to have a horse-archer-melee cavalry ratio of 4:1. Then you have to keep shooting the enemy meler infantry and melee cavalry until you are out of ammo while keeping your cavalry as far away from the enemy as possible.
They are not use to walk you know what i mean, spending almost the whole year in a ship, i believe if i lived their life, im sure that i’ll forgot how to walt
These videos make me want to play to understand your memes, but I don't know what the name of the game is. And I gave up by the time I finished typing my last sentence.
This reminds me a defense I was doing in Rome 2 in a gallic settlement, I had 2 archer units, 2 Spears and 1 horse against an entire army of several archers, spears, swords and cav Thing is they only had 2 siege towers and 1 ram I managed to burn down the siege towers and the ram got glitched inside my hate so they couldnt use it, the entire army was running around the ram trying to use it only for every unit to get slaughtered by the arrow towers
I defeated a 900 strong army by my 600 strong and gave them 560 losses while I lost 200 of mine in record setting(realistic battles and strategy is actually used) in Total War: Three Kingdoms.
![The Battle of Tulifurdum [Total War: Attila battle replay]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CCGNYDogdUA/mqdefault.jpg)
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The air was filled with smoke and blood.
Rome was weak...
Gamerizer You mean West Rome?
@@amp8295 is there any other Rome, tho?
@@haesung2148 Well there's East Rome during that era of Europe as well
@@amp8295 It was a joke.
Welcome to every single battle as the Western Roman Empire.
Do this about 20 more times per turn and you can survive as western rome on legendary. I've done this, it's fucking nuts but actually makes you a good total war player. I suggest not deploying the marines until the main mass of enemies charge one of your lines and you can use the marines to charge a flank for a moral shock.
"good" total war player
i think outcheesing the retarded enemy AI isn't exactly the peak of strategy
That's not AI, that's just game mechanics. The unit routing is a result of clear morale buffs and debuffs interacting, once a unit hits 0 morale, it routs. You're bragging about beating the braindead TW AI using cheese strats that exploit the glaring limitations it has. There is no challenge in 90% of singleplayer, only advantage the enemy has is cheat funds even on easy. It's telling that in the show Time Commanders, it's not AI that controls the enemy, it's CA employees, they don't trust the AI to actually fight well enough to fill the time slot.
Ya? So why can I stop most TW players in multiplayer if I mostly play singleplayer? Because you need to understand game mechanics to use cheese strats. If you don't understand cheese strats than you don't understand how the game really works and you'll get fucked over every time by your own retarded units.
surviving with western rome is not that difficult. pull all your troops into the italian peninsula and defend from there. after some time you will take back the territory you have lost. same with the eastern rome. defend the turkish peninsula first and then grow back again
@@randomuser6175 Actually defending from Egypt is way easier because its by far the Richest province you own even if you give up on Constantinople you will still be raking in cash plus its easier to defend
>pyrrhic victory
usually i'd say its far better to lose a pyrrhic battle than to win one but clearly this video proves otherwise
Switzi Because the enemy was smaller cav units and he suicided junk troops
@@switzi8017 a pyhrric victory means that another battle like this and you will lose.
Doesnt a pyrrhic victory mean a victory thats just as bad as a defeat due to the amount of casualties you took?
@@bruhguy2356 Phyrric victory means, that you technically won a battle, but with too heavy casualties considering what you have won. In other words, you lost men but achieved nothing useful.
Good job! I tought its lost when your auxilia palatina and legio gave up
Me too! That was incredible!
The scout equites are the most important units in these battles.
But the legio could've been used better. Since their plumbata don't do much against cavalry, it is prudent that you use them to plug the gap where your praventores were. Also, fighting cavalry with praventores is one of the worst ideas ever, they're far too squishy to hold the line properly
Both armies end up fleeing... This is like Austria-Hungary vs Italy.
But ww2 italy
Austria-Hungary lost in WWI on Piave. Decisive victory for Italy in my opinion.
Man, I appreciate this joke. Thank you
I’m sure the Huns have another stack a half turn away, pretty standard WRE campaign. Absolutely mind numbing how frequently you have to fight this exact battle.
Finally the correct use of that raised barricade. Put your damn archers on it and melee infantry in front. Thank you so much, I've seen it too many times where people would waste them but just putting melee infantry on them. Always pissed me off.
Correct use is to not have melee in front. If you have archers or javelins on it while enemies try to melee it down, they will instantly die when they get shot. You can destroy the strongest elite unites in the game with shitty archers if they are attacking the barricade.
And having melee infantry in front of missile troops usually doesn't end well
For your guys being shot in the back
JJ P except legio, the javelins can be rlly useful on the barricade
meh...it's kinda circumstantial. if you don't have archers or javelinmen melee infantry on the barracudas work very well. for example I tend to use and favor units with throwing weapons during defensive battles even if their lower stats why? well because of the pila in legios case. if you don't have archers those are effective at at least taking a bite out of cavlry units. then once their out of ammunition I send them into the fight. it's why whenever I'm about to get stuck in a siege I always recruit a couple axe men maybe a cavlry unit if they got it and a but load of skirmishers and archers. nobody's getting into my main settlement without passing through my skirmishers vollys.
"TAKE THAT NON-ROMAN SCUM"
Finished Legendary WRE campaign recently, it's all fun and challenging until you beat the Huns and get Cornutis as garrison troops
I wonder how the Curnutis can be a regular regiment that can be enrolled many times in the game while, in reality, they were just one famous regiment among many other.
@@Helgi105 In reality the Western empire didn't even last long enough for most of these units to become a thing anyway. a 'Historically accurate' campaign sees the goths under Alaric sacking Rome in 409, Gaul and Hispania completely out of Roman control, you're practically dead in 410
@@Helgi105
The same way you can stack 50 heavy onagers in an army, because it's how the devs made it.
Quo Usque Pro Roma Ibis.
Really well done commanding your Equites!
Even though the title implied you winning this, I felt adrenaline watching your troops fight to the last man!
I miss your content so here I'm watching the old video.
I usually pound my town defenders into single small area, in spite of leaving the victory point in open, so that i can avoid being flanked or having light troop defend against heavy ones. Note that this just works almost perfectly when their army aren't bow-concentrated one. You know why!
Why foes your general sound like an eastern faction?
Joshua Corney because the auxiliary palatina has a default eastern voice
Aguas no that’s western auxilia palatina, why would they have an eastern accent
It's an oversight. I actually made a mod to change that to eastern auxilia palatina's voice, which is not eastern.
@@HakariKinjiGamble This is western auxilia palatina.... it would have made more sense to use a germanic voice rather than an eastern voice.
It is an oversight.
@@j.mtherandomguy8701 The developers might be implying that these ones are from North Africa.
That was bloody well done ! And the tower trick in the end
It is lovely to see you that you used your tower defences in the last part of the video
i like how the balance of power at the end is like 90% enemy favored
-Is it possible to learn this power? -Only from
Yrridian
that is closer that i imagined
New to the channel and been liking it. Not that i haven't but you pulled this out of your ass! Nice work!
Hehe you had really lucky ending xD
General's bodyguards are tough as hell. Another unit only got 4 kills.
God, this reminds me of how many times I've played the first battle of East Rome, against Alaric. Where you NEED to rout them and reduce them to basically nothing, or else you can never get anything done because your capital province looses a settlement, or you waste many turns chasing a raiding army around the map.
almost shat myself
>Archers in a "gateway"
>3 cav units just circlejerk each other while being under fire
AI really is braindead, isn't it?
Also, why the F is this suggested to me in 2019?
yes
Archers are behind the barricade
There was a barricade
MonsterDude They weren’t just standing there, they were killing them.
Awfully close
The huns did a similar thing to me, but instead I defened with around 1k against 4k. Let's just say I went down fighting.
How do you even lose against Total War's AI?
Depends on what faction you are. ERE and WRE have units that do OK against cavalry, specifically infantry that have defensive testudo. The highest tier legio, though weak as swords, could outlast even the most powerful cavalry in the game with defensive testudo , given the right circumstances are in place like choke points, slopes and defensive emplacements.
That's what I'm used to in the game anyway
@@Jose-xh5qb BTW if there's too many of them, it'd be difficult to hold unless you have a battlemap that favours you, which isn't usually the case for the WRE
im on turn 40 as ERE and this is litteraly how im conquering the map
the enemies keep attacking a garrisoned stack of comitensis spears and keep loosing to the testudo wall
If they'd just send 1 more single unit over to the other flank, you'd be unable to send backup to your spearmen in time.
How come the huns only attack from one side?
Every time I play the enemy splits up in three to surround the settlement. Regardless of who I fight
This is ridiculous! I'm not saving any of my own replays after seeing this. I can't beat this...
Is it just me or at the start they say our T H O T S?
"Are you winning son? "
Yeah.. *PHYRRIC VICTORY* close enough
Wow, that is what I call entertainment
love that kind of matches, to see how DUMB the AI is
seems like archers are very useful against light cav when defending
Koray Sercan Kuru Tbh they are the handiest, especially if your infantry are completely out matched. I was attacked in Iuavum once where the huns had superior infantry, and my only prayer was my armored Sagittari. Was pretty lucky to, as it was crucial for raining down fire at the attackers.
Would've made a lot of different choices but still a good effort on your part.
On the other hand, I've played so much Attila that maybe what's obvious to me isn't obvious to people who don't play this 25/7.
100% defence
It says phyrric but feel like a heroic victory.
I love fighting these close battles, very few things except actual real danger gives me such a dopamine rush.
Are you Zeus?
Where are the Spartan hoplites when you need them?
Please do the Three Kingdoms Total War similar videos after it's release.
I almost certainly will.
best commitment you will get from a shitposter XD
This is supposed to be a heroic victory for them and a total defeat from the enemy
Attila total war "Good game"
"Phyrric Victory" 😂😂
Balance of power at the end of the battle???
somehow pyrrhic victory
my western empire winning strategy is to abandon every settlement outside of italy, than return to the wastes
lol imagine having a friend playing vega conflict
im such a noob i had to install the double garrison mod
Þaymrick Ólafursson. i knew i could win, im on my first campaign as the eastern roman empire, on normal difficulty, i just didnt want to spend my whole game re building razed settlements
😮😮😮
You you steal this from my computer? Bruh I swear I fought the same battle in one of my campaigns.
Anyone who plays attila ever for an extended period played this battle
everyone has it's called playing WRE
Victory?
That Hunnic army was pretty fucking stupid. All you have to do as the Huns is to have a horse-archer-melee cavalry ratio of 4:1. Then you have to keep shooting the enemy meler infantry and melee cavalry until you are out of ammo while keeping your cavalry as far away from the enemy as possible.
Why were those stupid marines soooo slow?
Thats one thing i also dont get.. i think you cant even research for better marines
The ERE does get better marines later on
They are not use to walk you know what i mean, spending almost the whole year in a ship, i believe if i lived their life, im sure that i’ll forgot how to walt
Not even close
Roma invicta
588 garrison army vs. 980 Hun horde and Pyrric Victory??? Qve the f*ck????
You are well known about town's archer tower diployment :D
You made couple of mistakes but still good
What qualifies u
@@martingrof1685 birth
These videos make me want to play to understand your memes, but I don't know what the name of the game is.
And I gave up by the time I finished typing my last sentence.
JJ K Thus is total war attila, but he also has videos of other total war games i think
The name of the game is in the title...
@@alexandertheok5649 No shit.... Sherlock?
This reminds me a defense I was doing in Rome 2 in a gallic settlement, I had 2 archer units, 2 Spears and 1 horse against an entire army of several archers, spears, swords and cav
Thing is they only had 2 siege towers and 1 ram
I managed to burn down the siege towers and the ram got glitched inside my hate so they couldnt use it, the entire army was running around the ram trying to use it only for every unit to get slaughtered by the arrow towers
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I defeated a 900 strong army by my 600 strong and gave them 560 losses while I lost 200 of mine in record setting(realistic battles and strategy is actually used) in Total War: Three Kingdoms.
This was the dumbest AI Ive seen