The Battle of Tulifurdum [Total War: Attila battle replay]
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2021
- Tulifurdum, 428AD.
When the Franks and their Burgundian allies declared war on Rome, the empire was ready. Four fully provisioned legions crossed the Rhine in unison, each conquering a different settlement within the season. Forced on the defensive, and knowing that their armies were no match for the legions, the Frankish generals unified their forces into a single roaming horde almost 9000 strong.
This horde now has Legio III encircled in Tulifurdum. The settlement's supplies are low, and the defences are still half-destroyed from the Roman conquest. In a desperate, or perhaps overconfident move, Spurius Traianus sends Legio II to break the siege, and meets the Franks in the field. 3700 Romans face off against 9000 Franks; the legions have superior training and equipment, but is that enough against such overwhelming numbers? - Hry
I see Attila AI still loves to leave its general alone in the back
This is better than Shogun and Rome when the general attacks alone in the first few minutes
@@geoffwitt4227 AI using their General as the arches bait, lol
@eqw alle at least they’re not made of glass in Warhammer
Attila? defending in minor settelment battles be like evry ai general and cavalry rushing towards ur bottleneck with his infantry and arty miles away.
How to kill Atilla? just wait him until he rush u on a suicidal charge.
@@tomthestone1470That's probably *why* they're not made of glass in Warhammer
Been a while since I uploaded a regular old battle replay, and some people were asking for more, so here you go! This is one of the largest battles of the entire West Rome Legendary campaign, and was a bit of a risky gamble on my part. You can’t command this many troops effectively without automating or simplifying as much as possible, which is why I don’t pick targets for my onagers and why my infantry formations get more and more chaotic as the battle progresses.
For future replays, I was thinking of adding a small text box in the corner of the screen outlining my thoughts and strategy throughout the battle, is that something you’d like to see or would it just make things more visually messy?
Let's test it out and see how it works
I think the text box idea is great. The top right of the screen doesn't really get used, so it's empty space. It'd be great for those who wanna see your thoughts about the tactics and learn about them
I definitely agree that we should give it a go. Some commentary would be nice to see in these kinds of videos
I'm all for it. Battle replays can get a bit of chaotic, especially with the camera flying all over the place, so a textbox with brief commentary would actually provide some guidance as to what is going on.
Yes
The feels when you're so early that 360p is the best resolution 😂😍
😂
The atmosphere of antiquity. This is how our ancestors saw our world in 360p.
Attila just has a unique feel to it that none of the other Total War games have. I hope that if they make a Medieval 3, they try and emulate the gritty feel of Attila.
Perhaps if you're playing the Eastern Roman Empire yes. But I think the reason there is this gritty sensation when you play Attila it is because you know that Roman Empire, especially the Western part of the empire, is struggling to survive the waves of catastrophes that it had to face.
Attilas atmosphere was really well done you can feel the cold and starvation more as long campaing went on.Farms becoming useless late game as world gets colder ,soil fertility went bad,hordes coming from east.Epic my favorite TW
gods of the afterlife, spare my arse with this new upload
Come, sit, share my fire and watch this new upload
Why couldn’t they have made warhammer maps this large ? These maps actually made using cavalry viable and fun
I was one of those people that thought I wouldn't like Warhammer because it wasn't historical, but I just bought it the other day, and I can honestly say I enjoy it more than most other Total Wars. But you're not lying about the map sizes. Warhammer maps are super small compared to other Total War maps.
@@pimpinjt123 well where can you find a total war where you can nuke the enemy or release a pack of T-rex to eat an army?
@@langolodelladistopia6171
Planet war
@@langolodelladistopia6171 The medieval 2 mods still pull me more on warhammer honestly, tho some QOL adds are missed.
Even 3K Maps are huge as well.
This battle was decided when the AI didn't defend their general.
It's so weird seeing another Attila player who literally uses exactly the same army comp as me. I've never seen anyone else have the exact same units.
um...
I just legion spam (10) and then have two spear men and cavalry at the flanks with three archers behind the infantry alongside two siege weapons. Pretty much the late Marian roman army comp.
Because it's really inefficient 😂 Relies too much on big onagers. Lancers to take out enemy cavalry and faster horses to chase down archers. Cant believe how many kills the enemy crossbows got here 😮💨
My army comp is very similar as well, 6 units of cavalry though I prefer shock cavalry over melee cavalry as they kill enemies faster, 6 units of melee infantry, 4 units of spears and 3 large onagers. I don’t use missiles unless I am playing a faction with good quality horse archers or the Sassanids, never found them that useful on the battlefield once I unlock large onagers.
6:45 i can feel the pain in that mouse spasm
Ragnachar: Surrender, romans! We outnumber you!
Spurius Traianus: Oh, I agree it will be extremely painful...
Ragnachar: Glad to know you see reason at last! Now for our terms..
Spuriys Traianus: For you
Attila is the most underrated total war game. Also arguably the last truly historical total war game. [ToB doesn't count]
They still can make Medieval 3, or Empire 2.
why not ToB? because Saga? pf
@@apollomars1678 Mostly because of the extremely poor reviews and low player base
@@nms8397 low player base is in my opinion relevant if we speak about UNDERRATED totalwar games.
and i didnt found poor reviews of actual competent players of this game. the first review for me was the warhammer2-cheese-god,...its kinda sad, but i don't trust his values beyond warhammer, because this is 99% of his content on his channel, dont need to see it, he dont want us to play something else except warhammer....... the next review claimed, that he loved Attila and hated Napoleon (bullshit opinion, both were great games) the third review claimed, that he hates Attila and thats why he hates ToB too, because its just a reskin. (bullshit opinion)
in my view not the total-war-games got worse....the reviews became straight up bad and just about insulting a game without playing it (s. Rome 2 hate) as a game. these people didnt played the game, they buyed the "next failed Total-War game" for their "next" angry review video and than played that has-to-be-shitty game and try to find some kind of critic.
i mean, if you want to truly argue about a "lack of diversity of the units" by ToB, maybe you should look at Shogun2, who had significant LESS UNITS than ToB. Ashigaru-spam left and right. noone gave a fuck, because they won the game easily.
Shogun 2 started the cinematic battle scene stuff, that got HATED so much in Attila. Noone cared about it in Shogun 2.
Shogun 2 has some of the worse DLCs, who are even worse than DLCs in Rome 2. Noon gave a fuck about it.
Shogun 2 has smaller black stripes after arrows too and people described it as beautiful...
in my point of view OUR feed-back on Shogun 2 TO THIS DAY lead to the biggest problems of modern total-wars after shogun 2 and the fanbase is constantly looking away at this continuity from shogun2 to modern games by their feedbacks.
in my opinion ToB has less players, because most players played the game and lost after 20 turns by rebellions. and they were not able to handle to loose in a total war game. Hint: there are mods, just use the loyalty cheat mod and you have zero rebellions.....but today-totalwar gamers are not able to accept, that maybe they need a mod to enjoy the shit out of a game.
i can use bugs in rome total war too....its just not fun to use them. these people constantly complain about an error, until its no longer fun to play the game for everyone....than they are happy.
@@apollomars1678 I refuse to acknowledge ToB as a standalone game
Seeing the amount of money your faction had was an eye-opener, but seeing the amount of food was jaw-dropping. My poor Western Romans have spent the last 100 years eating negative rations while yours are having a feast
I love 2021 Attila content. The unforgiving aspect of the combat is to die for
Please show the battle replay of you defeating an entire Suebian horde in your West Rome Part 2 video. We need to replicate that.
That *might* be the next battle replay I upload. No guarantees, but it's high on the list for obvious reasons.
Thanks mate!
2 years later and these videos and the game itself still slap. Truly the most underrated TW over
That felt like a real life battle
You are truelly one of my favorite CZcamsrs! Thank you for these master pieces.
Attila is the dark souls of total war its just so damn hard.
The Franks be like "And they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming"
LET'S GOOOO! Also 360p gang let's go toooo 🙏🏻
I love seeing your battle replays.
every battle in your tw meme vid, theres always challenges and hardships behind it just like this one. Keep up the good work Yrridian!
Cara.. parabéns pela batalha !! você é brabo mesmo ahahha ... por favor faça mais videos assim =D
Praise the gods! Our horse lord Yrridian has returned!!!
May he be blessed with views and may we be blessed with content!
As i expected from our Magister Equatorium
Talk about a butt pucker of a battle! Love the videos man!
It's great that youtube consistently doesn't recommend your videos to me, gotta love that
Daddy yriidian back again with the Atilla gameplay. All the while not zooming in on the troops like a pro. And like an angel coming down from the heavens, pooping out actual gold then doing a peace out. "I hope to see you again, beautiful horse khan man".
For me Attila is the best total war ever. Fuck everything else I am in love with my Honorio.
Great to have another video of yours Yrridian! Would be cool if you could upload these kinds of replays in between your shitposting projects (maybe with a bit of commentary for context like in the Alans guide?). Anyways, love your Stuff!
One of the most epic Total War battles I have ever seen.
Two mistakes that increased your casualties more than necessary.
1. The onagers were auto-targeting the crossbowmen, and inflicted minor casualties. Since your infantry can form testudo and basically ignore ranged attacks, this made the onagers ineffective. Softening up the enemy infantry would've been better and more effective as they are more densily packed (even in loose formation).
2. After the first wave was broken, you should've reformed a line with the infantry. Since it was mostly only crossbows and cav left, forming infantry in line and testudo would've drastically decreased casualties and increased their effectiveness against the enemy cav. It would also lessen the amount of micro-management necessary, and you would be able to focus on cav movements more.
Your casualties could probably have been reduced by 30-50% by these things.
Additionally, a minor grudge is how the cav was bunched up a bit too much. Attacking one unit with six cav units is overkill and tangles the units up, making it harder to disengage.
The worst thing is that the two friendly armies entered the field separately on opposing sides... It is too hard to regroup and micromanage them.
Yup great analysis. I would also add never counter charge cav with infantry. Face them the right direction as fast as possible and hit that backspace to brace.
just a tip, i know its hard to manage your troops but try to keep an eye on your cav cus it was all over the right flank when it could of been supporting ur units mid battle
Majestic Mangonel action, dominus!
LETS GOO MY MAN UPLOADED
Could it be? Were the legends true? Has the saviour of Rome returned once more?
HE RETURNS
That description, amazing
Also congrats on 90k subs!!
A master at work
This was some Lelouch level commanding. Well done
We definitely need to see some #massivebattles. Props to anyone who gets the reference
Interesting strategy, I will keep this in mind
I read the description before watching the video, I really thought this was an actual battle that happened
THE RETURN OF THE KING
What an super unreallistic range that artillery has
Wow, controlling 2 full stacks on legendary is beyond what I can do. Although it seems the AI is doing its part to help. Fighting in 2 directions at once is not really its strong suit it seems. It didn't even put up a screening force to guard its rear so you were able to just ride down the general. I was wondering why you don't use groups though? When I foray into playing legendary control groups are a must, plus group attack orders make it easier to order an entire line of units to charge and pick their own targets
Because Yrridian based his strategy on mobility and gangbanging and unit groups don't help with that. The battle tends to devolve into a messy brawl anyway and unit groups would severely limit flanking choices.
you did extractly what im about to do, but with much more accurate.
I personally hate that kind of battles that allies and enemies can come from all directions, so freaking chaos to control.
But is it better if we force some scattered units to retreat to gain more room for reinforcement and hide/retreat sub generals to avoid unnecessary casualties ?
Love the army comp, I run something similar.
Ok this is quite good and I'll try to find some actual tactics used in real wars and pls correct or fill in if any grievous mistakes:
1: Artillery and main army positions on an elevated ground for better defence and a greater line of fire
2: Using a smaller detachment to deploy behind enemy lines
3: Hiding your main cavalry detachment for surprise attacks on the flanking enemy cavalry
4: Isolating and killing an overconfident general running ahead of his own troops for demoralising and denying the enemy proper leadership (dunno if he was the one caught by the cavalry of your second army or the one trying to flank your main army)
5: Using the main army on the hill as bait until the enemy is committed and does not have fast-moving units to threaten your second onager group
6: Using the second army to draw some enemy infantry from the assault on the main army, dividing the "anvil" on the main force (enemy cavalry as the hammer) and saving the main army from focused assault by superior numbers
7: Multiple uses of defeat in detail (using a larger force to crush individual smaller armies) and preserving a strong cavalry core for pursuing
8: Using the second onager group to hammer the reforming enemy lines
All in all, a very good battle and very entertaining to analyze :)
P.S. Also is the battle music from Atilla? If so could you tell me pls what track?
its the ingame battle music but i dont know what it is unfortunately. i think it may be legions of the west tho
Yes it's from attila and it's called "legion of the west" but it's probable that in your own battles you'll hear another version of the song due to the fact that there is what they call dynamic soundtrack.
@@leilagorrilla4842 ooooh, many thanks
Well done. Roma Invicta!
Love TW Attila. Underrated game.
Sire how many onagers did you say we make again?
YES
Dang I forgot how good Attila sound design is
I find it so interesting that when people play the wre they actually use their cavalry. I personally think that western rome has potentially the worst cav in the game, but they do have really good range options and very flexible melee units. I love their javelin units so much, because they double as an anti large spear unit up close so i just put them on the flanks as they shred horsies. It works every time.
I usually keep 1 or 2 cav in every army to clean up ranged. Even scout equites get the job done. The AI will rush all their cav into your testimudo wall early in the battle leaving your weak ass scout equites as the only mobile units left. Their back line is only ranged after they commit everything so cav can crush it and hammer/anvil charge the back of their infantry if needed
whats your PC specs? it seems very smooth
Great Tactic : D
Why did you send the depleted units back? You could use the to distract the enemy, right?
This game was the hardest to jump into....but once you got the hand of the religon family politics micro managing...worth it
too bad the Romans back then didnt realized that long range Onager tactical bombardment is OP
Not the hero we wanted but the hero we needed
When is loose formation really working? I've heard its basicly usless against enemy missilefire, but I would assume against ART fire it does make a huge difference
This new concept its good
14:55 that attack push was bold :)
it wasn't at all, the enemy had too many ranged units and his infantry would be dead if he did not move forward to put pressure on them
On your knees peasants! As our Lord has uploaded new video.
NOT ONE CLOSE IN SHOT OF ARTY SPLATTING ANYONE!?!?!?!? Cmon Man! Nice Comeback though!
Epic battle
This is what total war should be
Crazy battle
Just wondering, am I silly or are the onagers targeting the spread out skirmish units instead of the infantry behind them at the start of the battle before the infantry meets the first time? If so, I'd love to know why you choose that, I always target the heaviest infantry in range so I'd love to know if there's a better alternative.
He was just letting the onagers target anything by themselves mostly he needed to focus on the reinforment army and the calvary.
@@thatrandomguy8115 well he was just admiring the shots landing and using the ability on them, so I figgured there was more too it than that. Still, could be the case like you say.
Ur specs must be good game running pretty well
Best total war tactician
Hey, maybe next time wait a little for CZcams's encoding to kick in, I feel bamboozled to watch your content in 360p
Been awhile bro
Hmmm..i'm just at the start of the video and im curios how did you manage to take different groups of The army and move them one nu one in different lines
Hear
Us
*LORD*
Can you do an Alans series?
Who put that damn hill there?!
You use The GeForce Experience?
tnx
How did you obtainer onager so early? For the time I build up the needed building and technology my enemies lies already in ruin and despair
I just finished the grand campaign on legendary with divine Triumph. Damn it was hard. I thought it would be smooth sailing after destroying the Huns, but nope, the difficulty increased afterward. Western Rome willingly wanted to be a puppet state, but as soon as I got dragged into a conflict with Burgundy to defend Illyria (one of my puppets), western Rome as well as every single factions in the east (all of which aren't puppets) declared war on me. Meaning the economy crippled and being invaded on all sides while almost my entire army and navy was in the north.
I was playing as ERE. An advice i have would be to avoid having puppets. The while secede eventually regardless of how much money you give them previously.
@@sasi5841 Yeah making new puppet states is almost never worth it. I got really lucky in my West Rome game with how loyal my puppets were, but even then the last ~20 years of my campaign was just me funneling huge amounts of gold to them every turn to keep them loyal once the wars ended.
@@Yrridian the game said that my puppets were loyal and reliable with green face on diplomacy, but they still decided to secede and invade undefended territory.
360 Pixels, best resolution 😎
İs this the settings where you have your unit size?
I like the way the battlefiled looks nothing like the preview
Talk about King of the Hill
Why dont you make a campaign?
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How historic was it to have so many onagers? I would guess that an army moving into Germany would have one at most given the difficulty of hostile terrain.
Lol like none? Onagers are siege equipment, they were build in the middle of the siege, irl only scorpions/balistas/polyboss would be actually helpfull on the field battle.
9:01 - how to move a unit through a point?
5:35 if this was Med2, enemy infantry would immediately charge at the Romans
FOR THE EMPIRE!
Can you do a skaven Warhammer 2 video
Yrridan doesn't release anything..
Me, And when he opened the seventh seal there was silence
epic
So this game is where they got the idea for hell storm rockets 😉
MY LORD
14:48 to 15:20 Did the AI just pull off a cycle charge? Does the Atilla AI know how to do that?
Rome 2 and Attila AI does that with shock cavalry if I recall
@@amp8295 Neat. Never noticed that in Attila because I only really encountered shock cav while playing as horse archer oriented factions where it was just too easy to kite and shoot them to death. Makes me wonder how many other little interactions I missed out on due to my playstyles.
this guy micromanages like hes a SSD processor
No balistarii?