EU Autopilot is rubbish compared to America. But have they got it working now?
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- čas přidán 18. 01. 2024
- I use Autopilot a lot on the motorway. Its brilliant in traffic! But compared to the American system it is primitive and basic.
I've tested this before - and it wasn't good. But Tesla have pushed out a load of over the air updates. Is it any better now? Only one way to find out!
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You should look at the Magic Roundabout in Swindon, where I learnt to drive!
Interesting to see how the Tesla system works compared to my current E Niro's adaptive cruise control.
I'm afraid I'm of the same opinion. It's great on motorways, dual carriageways and 'A' roads but on anything else it's terrible. It's more stressful and exhausting nannying the autopilot system than it is to just drive the damn thing manually! Not sure we'll ever get the American FSD system here but even if we do I can't see it working too well on British city/town streets.
Are our urban spaces more chaotic than theirs? I see some of the FSD videos in America and think they are almost ridiculously ordered. Where are the silly lane markings or parked car half on the pavement?
@@justgetatesla Exactly! In general American streets are a lot wider and straighter. As an example, in my local village there's a road by the pub that has a row of parked cars all along it. If you meet somebody coming in the opposite direction then the only thing you can do is put two wheels up on to the pavement (fortunately it's a low kerb) and flash them to come through so that they can squeeze passed you. How on earth would FSD ever cope with a situation like that!
Hi, it’s bad enough driving in cities anyway in the UK. To trust the auto system in a city, is far too dangerous, as you have proved in your video. Also there are far too many idiots on the road today. Motorway no problem. Great video by the way.👍
Great video. I find using "rainbow road" makes it easier and safer, while in autopilot, to see whether or not it is engaged.
Rainbow road would be ok without the bloody cowbell thing when you engage it. And that is from someone who thinks there should be MORE COWBELL in rock music...!
Thanks for another fun video Ian. Colorado, USA 2023 MYLR.I totally agree that autopilot in city is mostly worthless even here in the States. I wanted to thank you for teaching me you can match posted limit by holding down on the stalk. I wasn't aware of that one as I just came off my FSD trial late last month. Keep up the great content.
Every day is a school day! We can all learn new things every day if we look!
As a new model y owner I had mixed experiences with autopilot but having watched your video my commute to work was driven mostly on autopilot this morning in the rain - far less disengagements having learnt from watching you and a greater understanding when to intervene and encourage the system to go - great job with the channel Cheers Simon
Thanks so much! Glad I am doing something positive
Ian , thanks for this update, your videos always provide nuggets of information for me to try out eg. Long pull on the right stalk to increase speed to the current speed limit. Have to say I prefer AP on my Skoda Enyaq to my Model 3. The Enyaq slows for bends and roundabouts better than my Tesla, however, even on long journeys I personally find AP of limited value, other than motorways (of which there are none in Dorset).
I haven't yet driven the VAG assist system but have heard similarly good things about it.
Another great video Ian of how the autopilot works(or doesn’t work). Especially on roads I drive on everyday in my part of South Yorks (liked the bit on the Stag roundabout when the car got confused 😂)
Looking forward to getting my M3 highland in the next couple of months and seeing how that copes especially without the stalks!!! 🤔
I need to test one! My instinct is that the buttons will be fine!
I think it will be fine too once my muscle memory adjusts. I will let you know how I get on once I get my hands on it.
Please do!
Loving seeing how Sheffield has changed. I was born there and left the city in 1987. Been back on a few visits since but not since about 1998.
Much of it is the same - I was at uni in Sheffield 1995 - 1998 so remember it back then.
@@justgetatesla nice one. It’s on my bucket list to go back to the old town. Keep your hat on this weekend, we’re due to get battered on Orkney so I’ll see you next Friday. Take care.
Snowmageddon has finished here, just need it to melt so we can get about!
I think you should have done it after setting a destination on the navigation as that would have been more interesting. Thanks again for the content :)
Hard to program the nav to drive round a ring road 😏 honestly doesn’t make a difference to how AP works!
@@justgetatesla Last time I used it in this way was about 3 years ago on a B road and I vaguely remember then that it tried to get into the correct lanes, maybe things have changed. I dont really bother with it that much to be fair.
When there is a choice of lanes it seems hit and miss. Sometimes it gets it right, sometimes not
I would love a Tesla but all those bings and bongs would do my head in!
You get used to it. There is a "Joe Mode" which quietens it down a fair bit.
They don’t bong if you don’t use autopilot. I only use it on motorways
From this year every new car sold in Europe will bing and bing at you as it’s a requirement of the EU know it all’s who get driven around in chauffeur driven limousines. In many new cars you can mute it but you will have to do that every time you start up. AFAIK in other cars you will get bings and bongs for exceeding a speed limit or not keeping properly in lanes……… at the moment!
@@timoliver8940 can these features be retrofitted to Audi and BMW driver's cars please? Pretty please? Maybe something a bit louder that screams "STOP DRIVING LIKE AN ENTITLED BELL END!" is this possible?
I do refer to Audi drivers in my videos…
My home city ! Auto pilot in the uk will be very very challenging and far more difficult than some other countries . When all the physical/technical problems are sorted there is also the legal question. If a level 5 automated vehicles crashes or worst still finds itself in fatal incident who is liable, similar for speeding fines and other driving infringements ?
Very good questions! I ask those exact questions in a forthcoming video...
I know almost all those roads you drove and i absolutely hate sheff centre with the constant road works.
I'm also sure you can tell when you leave sheff roads because the road's go from terrible to god awful in alot of Rotherham
I’m with everyone else we have full AP and frankly its rubbish apart from on the motorways here in the UK. I love the lane change ability which can be a bit of a life saver at times but apart from that the lane keeping etc is about the same for any other car we’ve had
Like you Autopilot is not for me in towns but interesting watch
2:13 it heard someone speaking Welsh
press up once on the stalk to exit AP, much better than pressing the break
Unless you want to brake?
@@justgetatesla if you time it properly, regen should do that for you, especially coming to roundabouts
I'm talking with no knowledge of Autopilot at all here, but would it work better with a planned route in the nav? I can't understand how the car could decide where best to position itself when set to autopilot. Or is it just designed to carry on straight without a route planned?
In my experience it doesn't make a huge difference. If I had Enhanced Autopilot maybe?
Yup, I'd find baby sitting AP round complex towns more trouble than it is worth. Different of course out on the open road. Must be real fun designing the software to cope with global road arrangements and conditions. Elon, of course, is into rapid prototyping, hence all the upgrades. Thanks for the testing, vey useful to me a it feeds into my decision making.
I think you should have set a destination in order for autopilot to work in any possible way. Even Chuck Cook and DirtyTesla do that with their FSD Beta testing. If you’d done that and the lane had split then I think the car would have taken the correct route. But since this is the UK you are expecting a lot for it to perform anywhere near that. With the FSD Beta in the UK I would say the same thing is true but here we don’t have the ability to use it to navigate on city streets just yet. By the time I get my Cybertruck I’m hoping that this will have changed
I fear you may be waiting a long time for a Cybertruck in the UK...
@@justgetatesla yes, going to get a Model 3 for now as I have no car, then might upgrade to a Y while I wait. I do believe it’s coming though, it’s still on the Tesla site as a product, so we must wait. I reserved it a while ago and I haven’t heard that it’s NOT coming, put it that way
Looking at this video it looks like at the bottom of the screen it’s showing the trip. How have you done that please.
Instead of music? Try swiping left on the tile…
Thank you, simple when you know how…….Please keep the videos coming.
Slightly off topic - I’ve noticed in the more recent films that your drivers side seatbelt looks a bit “furry”. Is it worn or is it a camera thing? Maybe a test of Tesla warranty coming up 🤔.
No, that is wifey adding a shoulder pad. I have it slid as far out of my way as possible...
My auto pilot has gone shopping at the moment so I can talk freely without her knowing. Oh, check your inner wings on your Chinese battery box as there are reports of rust forming on your model after only a year of use, reminds me of the old Vauxhall days.
“Chinese battery box” - unsure why we need the petty racism. This is the second Chinese-built car I have had. Build quality is good!
@@justgetatesla Racism?? What a stupid comment that is, just listen to yourself.
I'll take opinions from yourself under advisement if thats ok.
@@justgetatesla The thing is Ian if you set yourself up as the champion of Tesla you have to be prepared for guys like me that have a different opinion than you to to disagree with you when they feel just as strongly that ev's are just not the answer for many people. I don't believe we have the infrastructure or enough power in the system to cope with an all electric method of getting from A to B. There are many questions about the way Lithium is obtained, there are so many questions about what happens to these batteries at the end of their lives as there will be millions to dispose of & you can't argue with the fact that many garages just won't have anything to do with them.
I'm not a "champion of Tesla" - I'm saying they are the best option at the moment. The other points you make:
"ev's are just not the answer for many people" - I agree and have said so repeatedly
"I don't believe we have the infrastructure or enough power in the system to cope" - we don't. A lot more chargers needed, more local power feeds needed. National Grid needs to invest to bring all the power generated in Scotland south now that we have shifted from coal to wind
"There are many questions about the way Lithium is obtained" - true. Though we can't pick at this and ignore all the questions about the way oil is obtained. The only clean solution is not to travel at all
"questions about what happens to these batteries at the end of their lives" - whilst that is true, the myth is that all EVs need a replacement battery on x number of miles/years. Or that the end of the car is end of life of the battery. In the real world old Nissan Leaf / Tesla batteries get repurposed as static batteries for homes or to electrify classic cars. Nobody ever talks about this for some reason...
I can go on all day mate
The AP nag doesn't seem too bad on this trip.
It never is! I read some Facebook group comments and wonder what is happening in their cars - or in their heads...
Don’t get your hopes too high. In the Netherlands it will try to kill you as well even with clearer markings. Outside of villages and cities it’ll work fine. On the other hand, using tacc is fine.
Hopefully we’ll get a decent regulation for fsd so I can read a book while being driven to work.
Nice to see you experimenting for us 👍
Testing is fun!
So as relaxing as being out with a newby learner driver at the wheel?
So auto wipers have never been very successful in your opinion, even now, but you think automating the entire vehicle will be?
Insurance companies are going to have an interesting time determining fault, and we will all pay accordingly.
Progress! 👏
Automation of other systems seems to be far more successful than wipers! As for fault its very simple - you are in control whether you are using automation or not. Same thing with airline pilots. And the automation systems are smarter than humans who get distracted or miss seeing things or can't accurately remember.
AP in traffic (busy motorway as an example) is far safer than driving a dumb car manually. More cameras facing more directions than I have eyes. A computer never distracted. And always on cameras recording everything accurately.
Ok, who goes to Costco 2 days before Christmas?!?! 😆
Me!!
Tesla should have the cars stop at stop signs and red lights! Shouldn't be for FSD!!!
Safety first!
That's part of the FSD component. It can be really annoying though as it stops at both red and green unless you give it the go ahead.
I tried it! It’s awful…
Isn't it easier to just drive the car?
Yes!
The emperor's new clothes anyone
I promise you can’t see my thingy 😉
To be honest what you’re using is just adaptive cruise control with lane keep which Tesla calls Autopilot which I had on my last Audi and you would never use in the centre of a city. The next step up from what you have is Enhanced Autopilot and that is only for motorways as stated on the website and that changes lanes and overtakes etc. and uses navigation, so if that is an extra why would you think Basic Autopilot would work on city streets. I think Basic Autopilot is amazing on my Model Y for what it is and when they start with FSD in the UK you will be absolutely amazed.
Love your videos but I think you’re being a little unfair on Tesla where this videos goes, it’s akin to using a pair of slippers to go on a cross country run, you can do it but it’s not what slippers were made for so they won’t do a good job.
Roll on FSD in the UK. 👍👍
I take your point - I'm deliberately stress testing the basic system. Lets be honest, the "FSD (Beta)" nonsense we get is no better. We need the UNECE to change their minds and let us have the full fat version...
I agree about the FSD we get now isn’t at all like America has, have you seen the new FSD beta 12.1.2 that very few have even in the US, it works on Ai? Whole Mars Catalog (sorry American spelling 😂) has done a few videos with it and Elon did it a while ago when he was the only one, bloody good. I do love when FSD goes through a tight space and it folds one or both mirrors in to get through. 😂👍
Yep, it’s amazing. We need that here!
Auto pilot AI still has a very low IQ no thanks I think ours is safer
I hear a lot of comments about that. Where people arrogantly think they are better. And yet there is a very large industry out there showing human drivers acting like absolute idiots. Endless cop shows, traffic shows, all the dashcam video channels.
People make stupid mistakes whilst driving all the time. If we’re honest about it.
@@justgetatesla So AI is the cure for all ?
I hope not! We need to be very careful with AI. But the genie is out of the bottle and isn't going back in. So lets make use of it.
You seem to be going down the clickbait Anti-EV youtube road. Not interested.
Huh? I *have* an EV. My channel is literally saying get a Tesla rather than another brand. How is that me being anti?
But I am honest - it’s not perfect and EU restricted autopilot is poor compared to the whizzy version in the US. I can’t deny reality!