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So much hate from the comment section for an Honest review. There are so many other Pay-to-play channels out there to watch where the reviewer hypes up fanboy products, it's honestly refreshing to find a reviewer that isn't afraid to tell the manufactures when they are F$cking up. I guess Haters gonna hate - Keep up the amazingly honest reviews Ross and - THANKS TITAN FORGE
Another incredible review. I’ve went on several of your recommendations and have yet to be disappointed by any of them. Thanks for this. Keep them coming.
Been waiting for this video! FINALLY Anycubic listened and added rubber feet! (I hated the M5 series sliding around when removing the plate) I am curious to see how expensive a spare VAT will be and how the resin pump holds up over time. 🤔 Great video as always Ross, I am excited to get one later this year.
Honestly, if you're printing resin, you should have a silicone mat. I returned the m5s because the "auto leveling" was junk, but it wasn't slipping on the large silicone mat I had it on
I get the idea behind the heater, but I do not like how clunky it winds up making basic maintenance and having to flush it out is bleh. Much prefer the vat heater style.
Great review as always Mr. Ross things are looking pretty good. Adding that heater assembly is a big plus and those rubber pads on the feet. Can't wait to see your next comparison review on these 3D SLA Printers, should be a real shopper's delight. Thank you for your time and work, happy printing.
I got mine today, what really sucks is how to Power on that thing... You got all this Remote/Cloud Stuff, Autofill and so on, that you would think "Hey I can just remotly start my printing" but no some really smart Dude was thinking "Hey lets put in a Power Switch and and second Button into that Machine, that you have to press every time you want to start it"... So you still need to go to the Printer if you want to print something (unless you willingly to leave the thing powered on all the time, with loud fans and probably high power consumption), and no it doesn't have some kind of standby Mode after you started it, its allways running full with Fans at 100%. Funny thing, if you turn the power switch on or connect a power cable to it with power switch on it instantly turns on the Fans at 100% but you can't do anything until you press the Start Button on the Front... what a stupid Design... Apart from that, the printer seems to be quite good, but that just annoys me. EDIT: Ok the power consumption, when not printing, is only about 11,5W, but still to much to leave it on 24/7 to remotely start a print.
TY titanforge! I'm torn between this and the saturn 4 ultra, I love the idea of the heating pump but not the acf and the tilting mechanism of the ultra 4 looks great but has no real heating solution.
Yeah I'm torn between em as well - technically there IS a heater for the Saturn but it's a seperate product and it heats the enclosure which is probably a lot less efficient. I think it'll depend on price as the saturn + heater is £400. Although with a seperate heater you do have better options and it's a lot cheaper to replace.
Thanks titan forge. I like most of your models. The fantasy stuff suuuuper rocks, the sci-fi stuff is weirdly stiff when compared to how good the fantasy stuff is. Thank you, love you bye.
Thank you for this review! Also, thank you Titanforge for making this possible! Will be my next printer as it looks like quite an upgrade from my old Photon (good old plain Photon... Not even an S, just old Photon).
I have an m7 pro now, first proper resin printer. It's been interesting to use. I have failed two prints so far but I think that is my fault not the printers. The other prints however have come out amazingly. Love this review and it also let me know some good information. I have been using the resin filler but may stop. Ow as the vat is so deep and what I print really doesn't need that feature. Can't wait to see what extraction device they come up with.
The 'ANERALABS' font looks squeezed , you need to use 'wait before lift' time parameter. The long curing time in the bottom layers affect z hight. Add time to this parameter will limit the over expansion in z direction .
Rest Time Before Lift: The expansion of resin is not stop immediately when uv light is turn off ,this is photo chemical process with relative low time constant, so adding time to this parameters helps maintain expanse in x-y axis rethen than in z axis . Mainly influance in bottom layers where expose time is large. We have the name for the expanse in x-y as 'elephant foot' .yet we don't have a name for the problem i have of squeezing the first layers after bottom layers and in this case the solution was changing this parameters to 1 sec. (Nova 3D Red Wax like resin / Saturn 3 Ultra)
1. Thank you TitanForge! 2. Thanks for the great review. I've been waiting for this on. The M7 is still on my short list, but that vat will keep me from pulling the trigger before looking at the next printer I'm hoping to see (but is barely a rumor at this point). Seems like everyone is pushing speed and ACF. Also while the heater is kinda cool, I like to have multiple vats on hand and this looks a bit cost prohibitive...perhaps...I guess we don't know yet. 😊
Thank you Titan Forge for getting the M7 to Ross. And Ross, I have been with Loot Studios since they began. That out of the way, there is no way I would consider this machine! The heater and all the things you mentioned about it, the weight, the inability to pour, and like you, I will and never would use a pump! Anycubic is my resin printer of choice. When I got my M5s, the first thing I did, was swap that cloudy film for clear and use it as an M5. I like the other features of the M5s, but that cloudy release film, no! I print for max detail! That is what I do resin printing for. Not speed or give up details to print at .05, I print at .03 every time and damn the time. Also like you, this game all the machine makers are playing with 12K & 14K, they need to stop until they actually get there. And they cannot until they stop using rectangles and change the 5,000 pixels to a much higher number. Marketing, always marketing. Marketing doesnt do much when they all get their screens from the same place. Ok, sorry, I will step off my soapbox in the middle of the town square.
Excellent video! always very fair with your comments. I know your point about the printers not really being 12k or 14k, so it is better to know the pixel size, however, I have not been able to find this information on the M7pro. Do you know what the pixel size is on this printer? Finally, thank you Titaforge!
oh crap, i should have said. it;s 24 microns on Y, same as the 12k's I think X is 19? or 18., It's on the website. but the one that matters is 24, well, 24.7 i think some of them quote
Dear Ross, there are many high end printers out there that never get a good inspection like you do on the cheapo consumer printers. Epax, Asiga and Envisiontech also make printers that allow non-proprietary resins. I very much wonder how they compare to the high end consumer printers. Thank! Maarten from Amsterdam
This review cures any buyer remorse i had. I preorder this machine that just arrived today. I went with preordering this over the elegoo because i thought the tilt mechanic seemed like a gimmick and i wanted a heart. but saw lots of reviews come in praising the tilt mechanic. However, I live in an area it gets pretty cold for 5 months of year so the heater is a huge benefit for me and got it for preorder discount so seeing it also delivers quality prints makes me super satisfied with my choice and dont have to worry about try to get the saturn 4 ultra. ill gladly take a slower printer that i can print all year round vs trying to figure something out to heat the Saturn.
100% mate. I’ve seen so many comments on this video with some saying not fir me and other like you feeling validated in your purchase And having that feeling you made the right choice, no matter what it is, is what I strive to deliver.
@@FauxHammer after printing on it the last 2 days this machine just seems significantly better designed and quality than the m5 series. there so much i love about the m7 but i do agree with you trying to pour out resin is a nightmare with the heater attached to the plate. i had nearly a a full vat i had to pour out because a model i didnt support properly..... and o boy it was a struggle to pour with that much resin and being back heavy with the heater. I am thinking this might be why they included a pump to pump out the resin to avoid pouring with it. honestly thinking about ordering some anycubic resin just to clean and save the bottles when i am done to use with other resin so i can use the pump when i have to empty my vat. i know it will be slower but might be worth it cus i was seriously concern about spilling resin all over my self trying to pour that monster.
@@FauxHammer sorry, my fault, I didn't write it very clearly. I meant that the resin autorefill pump also has a suction function. after printing, if you need to clean the vat, you can use the pump to suck the resin inside the bottle and facilitate cleaning
Good review as always! I can’t wait to receive my printer. The design of the printer is good, it looks beautiful! About the pump I think that I’m not going to use it, it seems like a cheap accessory and it don’t remove all the resin of the vat, so, yeah! But I’m curious about what other accessories they are making for this printer, I think the hole it can be to connect an alternate air purifier like the big ELEGOO one?
Was looking into getting the saturn 4 ultra for my next resin printer, but this one honestly looks better. The bath heater in combination with the lack of a fancy box (I have my own ventilated place for resin printing) makes it pretty attractive for me. However, it seems to lack a few of the quality of life changes you'd expect from a 2024 printer, and indeed the pump is way too situational and finicky to be included in the standard package (especiaslly with the deeper vat). Would love to see an in depth comparison of printers in this price range.
Hello, great video! I have a question. I want to buy a resin printer or maybe two (but from the same model). Which resin printer do you suggest? I have three on my list. I just want full Wi-Fi connectivity, speed, and good quality. Thank you very much! :) UniFormation GKtwo, Anycubic Photon Mono M7 Pro, Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra. Or maybe you can suggest a different one that is not on the list. I am very worried about making the wrong decision :(
The pump looks like it has an air channel and vents at the bottom so it shouldn't be a problem afding an external filter or purifier. I just noticed on my third watch.
Fantastic review. I’m really not sure I like the vat heating concept. Extra clean up steps, more to go wrong etc. Only time will tell how reliable this is long term.
5:30 thats the first time I've seen anyone try to pour resin back without a funnel and preferably also filter, was that for the vid or do you usually do that?
5:39 so this isn’t just a resin printers problem I don’t know how meny jugs I’ve found that have god awful lips, it’s something we didn’t used to have a problem with older jugs pour fine but some of the more modern jugs from brands like pyrex suck at pouring liquid they go everywhere or for some reason the water decides to define gravity somehow and stick to the side of the jug just long enough to drop down several inches from the lip onto the worktop instead of the bottle or cup you were aiming for.
I don't see the point in having a resin pump, doubly so if the vat has an actually decent capacity to begin with. Seems like a pointless thing to me that would stay in the box, and I agree, would be better to have it be an extra those who want can pay for. I do have to say that heating the resin itself is a neat touch. The big thing will be just how long that pump will last, and what replacement costs will be.
So I've been playing with my M7 Pro for a few weeks now and am a little unsure how to proceed. My first attempt at using the speed printing for normal resin test was a big fail, and since I didn't have any speed resin, I reverted back to the standard - standard resin, standard speed. I've been very happy with this, but know I'm not getting the full power out of this machine. I even now have the speed resin I originally preordered with the machine. Here's my dilemma - whenever I pick one of the speed options - standard or fast resin - I get a warning about them only being good for hollowed models, and with a maximum 2mm wall. No one I've seen mentions this, so I'm unsure: 1. Is this indeed a requirement? 2. If so, I have plenty of hollowed models from various creators, but how do I know if they're within the 2mm threshold? 3. If I manually hollow a small 32mm miniature, won't 2mm thickness cause air pockets that can't easily be vented and are separate from the main cavity(ies)? Thanks in advance.
i am interested to see what you think about the krobra 3 combo, and please look at the nozzle because every other review of it I've seen they didn't look at it
I have it on my desk now. Give me a couple of weeks. I’ll look at the nozzle. I’m loving the approach that AnyCubic has taken here in some regards. Others are…. Well, they are typical AnyCubic. But I’m not completely unimpressed. The ACE is nice
@@FauxHammer I appreciate you replying and the way you review things, it's very genuine if something is bad you very clearly say what's wrong with it and that you have the standpoint of ease of use because the marketing numbers either. Yeah from what I've seen it seems the ACE has more potential than the printer, that they tried but fell short of replicating the bambu experience but so long as it prints well without much effort on my end that's all I'm looking for.
I know this question has nothing to do with M7 pro, but do you know anything about (possibly) upcoming uniformation 3D printers? I've heard it throught the grapevine that uniformation will announce 2 new printers in the next week or so... so yeah, I was hoping you'd be able/willing to shed some more light on that.. thanks! cheers! oh and thanks, Titan Forge! 😉
Mark, most companies are now sending Non-Disclosure-Agreements to CZcamsrs before sending anything for review. So, yeah, 😂 He knows - but he cannot afford to be sued 😮
The resin heater system moving the resin throughout the print is a very good thing because like the s4 tilting it could help keep the resin mixed during long prints, cleaning looks annoying tho
Hi Ross, I want to buy a resin printer and I have in mind the Anycubic M7 pro, the uniformation GK two and the Heygears ultracraft . Which one you think it would be my best bet for my first 3D resin printer? Thanks for the great video reviews. The uniformation with the cleaning station and the curing oven are $999 in your link.
@@FauxHammer when the torque is too much you can just do half turns in your hand while holding the button and it will act like a ratchet screwdriver until its loose enough to unscrew it's self, same with tightening
The only printer I know that actually auto-levels is my Bambu and it's fantastic with that. I save so much time from just leveling alone lol. I know I'm talking about FDM though
Make a file in the anycubic slicer with the model evenly split into the 8 sections. (Do not cross these sections or it won’t work) and save the file with the same name as the RERF file on the root of the usb drive
Thank you for yet another great and informative review. How would you say this stacks up against Elegoo Saturn 4 and Saturn 4 Ultra for someone who doesn't care about resin heating (I print in a heated room)? Is there a quality increase from 12k to 14k that justifies the price difference, in your opinion?
You say the pump covers the air extraction vent so it's one or the other, but the pump does seem to have holes in the side for ventelation so it might work, will just have to wait and see I guess. Ultimately, the reason they had the vent in this werid place was because if they put it on the lid you would have to disconnect it constantly to remove the lid because they still won't give us flip lids!!!
Thanks for the review!! Sharp, clear, detailed and funny - as always. Ordered the M7 some time ago. I think the M7 will do fine next to my M3 Premium 😊
That heater makes it an automatic no for me. I live in Texas, I don't need a heated vat. Ever. Not only is it superfluous expense, the fact it makes the vat unwieldy and requires using a fair amount of isopropyl alcohol to clean just makes it a deal killer.
1. I purchased and am using this product. Is the basic film for this bed ACF? So, if ACF film is the default, I am thinking of ordering PFA. 2. When printing starts, does the cooler at the bottom of the machine make a lot of noise? Mine is very noisy. Does the bottom cooler make a lot of noise when printing starts?
hiya. 1. yeah i's ACF by default, I show me swapping it in the video. 2. it's on the quieter side of machines, but it;s a bit louder when the resin pump is on. it does not bother me and l'm in the same room as it. I can hear the build plate moving up and down over the fans and pumps
1:30 "my credibility as an honest reviewer" I'm not saying you're not and I know you already explained clickbait titles previously but you overall praise a printer that you questioned to be worse than it's predecessor in the title. I mean wouldn't a "better ... than?" have done the same? I like your videos and watch them regardless of the title but such things do put me a little off. Just wanted to let you know still a nice video. 👍
Thanks for the review! I've been sitting on this one for a while. It looks nice, but I think I'm going to stick with my M3 Premium for one more generation...
Hey Faux Hammer i have been lokking for a big resin printer i wase looking for the Elegoo saturn 4 Ultra and now you show this one so now i am not sure what i should go for any idea on that ?? regards Hulksie
Do you want a printer with a heater, or can you sort heating out yourself and you would prefer speed? if the former, get this, if the latter get the Saturn
@@nielsbunger269 So the Saturn is speed with no quality loss versus this which has some quality caveats when you want speed. I would get the Saturn in your position
Hi Ross, I'm wondering if during your testing for this review you monitored (Just with what is displayed on the UI) the resin temperature to see how well the heater did at keeping the resin at the set temperature? My M7 Pro just seems to heat the resin before the print and then turn off so after about an hour of printing the resin is back at ambient temperature. Thanks for all the reviews they are great.
As 'its summer and i print in an already heated room which has been almost 30 degrees, I was unable to test this at the time. but in my case I can hear the pump running throughout the print
@@FauxHammer Thanks for getting back to me. Seems like I might have a faulty unit then. Although I did notice an early version of the user manual shows an option in the function menu called "cycle in print" and that's no longer an option.
yep. so do I, If i had this, I'd miss the tilting vat, if i had that, I'd miss the heater. I suppose you can make a heating solution easier than your own vat tilting solution?
Thanks, Titan Forge. And while I'm here: maybe you can persuade your editor to stop cutting to cheezy stock footage so often, or ever. It's super annoying. It pushes me out of the otherwise immersive & compelling... World of Fauxhammer
A problem I can see with the vat heater is failed prints or junk getting stuck in it. Glad they are trying something new but I am not convinced on itl.
Potential. the slip the resin goes under is tiny, but I admit I had not considered this. a bigger worry is the gunk left to dry inside it without a regular flush
I really appreciate your review! its on point and detailed as allways! thank you ross! I also like the style of the new m7 pro and its great that they beeing innovative with the new heater. buuuutttt to me m7pro doenst look like the go to printer, which is reliable, easy to use and has topnotch quality.. I preordered it allready but may cancel it, cause I dont like acf, that foil screen protector and the extra cleaning from the heated vat. if there were a gkthree with that "14k" screen or an phrozen revo with heated vat band, id pick it...
So - there is no way to get the printer into your LAN or directly access it via WLAN, noted. The resin heating sounds like an innovative idea - until the connections clog up after prolonged use. The implementation of the pump "tower" is crude but about bearable - too bad though this is a mandatory feature. We had the ACF debate often enough and yet still there are new printers coming out with it. And no, i wouldn't swap it out myself, especially with the stupid tower on the vat. Even if the printer were the fastest (which it's not) or the one printing the highest possible quality nothing about it screams BUY to me. Soo many toads to swallow, nah, hard pass.
Any tests of how well the heating actually works? Kind of important to know if the heating actually works in colder conditions or if its just to keep temperatures stable.
Kinda struggling to do that at the mo because it;s summer, even in the UK it;s too warm and I don't have a giant fridge to test it in. But this will come later in comparison videos and and end of year summary
Maybe put just a resin bottle in the fridge? This won’t be exact but should provide minimum time to heat estimate. You’ll also learn if they measure the ambient temperature or the actual resin temperature.
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Hi, does the M5s Pro tank fit the M7 Pro? Can you print without uising the M7 Pro tank? (I see Anycubic offer 2 free FEP sheets for the M7 Pro...)
Thank you Titanforge!
So much hate from the comment section for an Honest review. There are so many other Pay-to-play channels out there to watch where the reviewer hypes up fanboy products, it's honestly refreshing to find a reviewer that isn't afraid to tell the manufactures when they are F$cking up. I guess Haters gonna hate - Keep up the amazingly honest reviews Ross and -
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Another incredible review. I’ve went on several of your recommendations and have yet to be disappointed by any of them. Thanks for this. Keep them coming.
Been waiting for this video!
FINALLY Anycubic listened and added rubber feet! (I hated the M5 series sliding around when removing the plate)
I am curious to see how expensive a spare VAT will be and how the resin pump holds up over time. 🤔
Great video as always Ross, I am excited to get one later this year.
Thanks so much, glad you noticed the key selling point!
Honestly, if you're printing resin, you should have a silicone mat. I returned the m5s because the "auto leveling" was junk, but it wasn't slipping on the large silicone mat I had it on
I get the idea behind the heater, but I do not like how clunky it winds up making basic maintenance and having to flush it out is bleh. Much prefer the vat heater style.
Thanks, agreed, but it works
Thanks Titan Forge. It's companies like this that helps keep the hobby going strong. Well Done Titan Forge
Thanks Titan Forge!
Thx Titan Forge. Got mine on Saturday. Wow it so fast printed a Genestealer in 29 minutes. Plugged it into my 6KS said it would take 4h 16m
Great review as always Mr. Ross things are looking pretty good. Adding that heater assembly is a big plus and those rubber pads on the feet. Can't wait to see your next comparison review on these 3D SLA Printers, should be a real shopper's delight. Thank you for your time and work, happy printing.
I got mine today, what really sucks is how to Power on that thing...
You got all this Remote/Cloud Stuff, Autofill and so on, that you would think "Hey I can just remotly start my printing" but no some really smart Dude was thinking "Hey lets put in a Power Switch and and second Button into that Machine, that you have to press every time you want to start it"...
So you still need to go to the Printer if you want to print something (unless you willingly to leave the thing powered on all the time, with loud fans and probably high power consumption), and no it doesn't have some kind of standby Mode after you started it, its allways running full with Fans at 100%. Funny thing, if you turn the power switch on or connect a power cable to it with power switch on it instantly turns on the Fans at 100% but you can't do anything until you press the Start Button on the Front... what a stupid Design...
Apart from that, the printer seems to be quite good, but that just annoys me.
EDIT: Ok the power consumption, when not printing, is only about 11,5W, but still to much to leave it on 24/7 to remotely start a print.
Thanks Titan Forge!!
TY titanforge! I'm torn between this and the saturn 4 ultra, I love the idea of the heating pump but not the acf and the tilting mechanism of the ultra 4 looks great but has no real heating solution.
Yeah I'm torn between em as well - technically there IS a heater for the Saturn but it's a seperate product and it heats the enclosure which is probably a lot less efficient. I think it'll depend on price as the saturn + heater is £400. Although with a seperate heater you do have better options and it's a lot cheaper to replace.
TY titan forge, and also definitely think things like resin pumps should be optional extra and paid for separately not forced.
Great review, love the nuanced pros/cons and pointers for whom this printer would be great.
Thanks titan forge. I like most of your models. The fantasy stuff suuuuper rocks, the sci-fi stuff is weirdly stiff when compared to how good the fantasy stuff is.
Thank you, love you bye.
Guess you could just print a new bottle cap for the auto refill to fit any other resin
Possible, but as shown the pump, sensor and air return valve are fixed parts of the existing lid.
It still possible to refill original bottle with any other resin )))
Thank you for this review!
Also, thank you Titanforge for making this possible!
Will be my next printer as it looks like quite an upgrade from my old Photon (good old plain Photon... Not even an S, just old Photon).
Hope you enjoy it!
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I have an m7 pro now, first proper resin printer. It's been interesting to use. I have failed two prints so far but I think that is my fault not the printers. The other prints however have come out amazingly. Love this review and it also let me know some good information. I have been using the resin filler but may stop. Ow as the vat is so deep and what I print really doesn't need that feature. Can't wait to see what extraction device they come up with.
Thanks TitanForge!
Ty Titan Forge!
The 'ANERALABS' font looks squeezed , you need to use 'wait before lift' time parameter. The long curing time in the bottom layers affect z hight. Add time to this parameter will limit the over expansion in z direction .
Rest Time Before Lift: The expansion of resin is not stop immediately when uv light is turn off ,this is photo chemical process with relative low time constant, so adding time to this parameters helps maintain expanse in x-y axis rethen than in z axis . Mainly influance in bottom layers where expose time is large.
We have the name for the expanse in x-y as 'elephant foot' .yet we don't have a name for the problem i have of squeezing the first layers after bottom layers and in this case the solution was changing this parameters to 1 sec. (Nova 3D Red Wax like resin / Saturn 3 Ultra)
You mean wait before cure?
@@FauxHammer no, wait time after cure. Give it a try!
Hi FauxHammer, No i mean wait after cure, give it a try!
It covers the air flow, but due to the minimum revolution on the fan induction that pump housing still allows plenty of air to flow still
yeah i didn't notice the vent holes until after i published, I'm fixing this in an upcoming video.
Thanks Titan Forge
1. Thank you TitanForge!
2. Thanks for the great review. I've been waiting for this on. The M7 is still on my short list, but that vat will keep me from pulling the trigger before looking at the next printer I'm hoping to see (but is barely a rumor at this point).
Seems like everyone is pushing speed and ACF. Also while the heater is kinda cool, I like to have multiple vats on hand and this looks a bit cost prohibitive...perhaps...I guess we don't know yet. 😊
I wouldn’t hold out much home for the barely rumoured printer. But maybe wait 2-3 weeks for something even less known.
Definitely a big thanks to Titan Forge 👍
Love the pump.
Thanks, Titanforge!
Thank you Titan Forge for getting the M7 to Ross. And Ross, I have been with Loot Studios since they began. That out of the way, there is no way I would consider this machine! The heater and all the things you mentioned about it, the weight, the inability to pour, and like you, I will and never would use a pump! Anycubic is my resin printer of choice. When I got my M5s, the first thing I did, was swap that cloudy film for clear and use it as an M5. I like the other features of the M5s, but that cloudy release film, no! I print for max detail! That is what I do resin printing for. Not speed or give up details to print at .05, I print at .03 every time and damn the time. Also like you, this game all the machine makers are playing with 12K & 14K, they need to stop until they actually get there. And they cannot until they stop using rectangles and change the 5,000 pixels to a much higher number. Marketing, always marketing. Marketing doesnt do much when they all get their screens from the same place. Ok, sorry, I will step off my soapbox in the middle of the town square.
Hey I’m happy to listen to someone on a soapbox screaming the same tune as me!
Thanks Titan forge
Thanks titan forge, we need this content!
Great printer, great review brother. Thank you .
Excellent video! always very fair with your comments.
I know your point about the printers not really being 12k or 14k, so it is better to know the pixel size, however, I have not been able to find this information on the M7pro. Do you know what the pixel size is on this printer?
Finally, thank you Titaforge!
oh crap, i should have said. it;s 24 microns on Y, same as the 12k's
I think X is 19? or 18., It's on the website.
but the one that matters is 24, well, 24.7 i think some of them quote
Dear Ross, there are many high end printers out there that never get a good inspection like you do on the cheapo consumer printers. Epax, Asiga and Envisiontech also make printers that allow non-proprietary resins. I very much wonder how they compare to the high end consumer printers. Thank! Maarten from Amsterdam
Thanks Titanforge 🎉
This review cures any buyer remorse i had. I preorder this machine that just arrived today. I went with preordering this over the elegoo because i thought the tilt mechanic seemed like a gimmick and i wanted a heart. but saw lots of reviews come in praising the tilt mechanic. However, I live in an area it gets pretty cold for 5 months of year so the heater is a huge benefit for me and got it for preorder discount so seeing it also delivers quality prints makes me super satisfied with my choice and dont have to worry about try to get the saturn 4 ultra. ill gladly take a slower printer that i can print all year round vs trying to figure something out to heat the Saturn.
100% mate. I’ve seen so many comments on this video with some saying not fir me and other like you feeling validated in your purchase
And having that feeling you made the right choice, no matter what it is, is what I strive to deliver.
@@FauxHammer after printing on it the last 2 days this machine just seems significantly better designed and quality than the m5 series. there so much i love about the m7 but i do agree with you trying to pour out resin is a nightmare with the heater attached to the plate. i had nearly a a full vat i had to pour out because a model i didnt support properly..... and o boy it was a struggle to pour with that much resin and being back heavy with the heater. I am thinking this might be why they included a pump to pump out the resin to avoid pouring with it. honestly thinking about ordering some anycubic resin just to clean and save the bottles when i am done to use with other resin so i can use the pump when i have to empty my vat. i know it will be slower but might be worth it cus i was seriously concern about spilling resin all over my self trying to pour that monster.
For the auto filler resin and cleaning process. You can use the auto refill also for pump out the resin in the bottle
Pardon?
@@FauxHammer sorry, my fault, I didn't write it very clearly.
I meant that the resin autorefill pump also has a suction function. after printing, if you need to clean the vat, you can use the pump to suck the resin inside the bottle and facilitate cleaning
That's cool
Noob question here. What's the advantage of pouring the resin on top of the elevated build plate, instead of pouring it directly into the vat?
There is none it’s just more cinematic
@@FauxHammerHa ha ha. I need to do that paying you homage 🤣
Good review as always! I can’t wait to receive my printer. The design of the printer is good, it looks beautiful! About the pump I think that I’m not going to use it, it seems like a cheap accessory and it don’t remove all the resin of the vat, so, yeah!
But I’m curious about what other accessories they are making for this printer, I think the hole it can be to connect an alternate air purifier like the big ELEGOO one?
Yeah I;m hoping they do a pump that can hang out of a window instead. that would be a game changer
Thanks Titan-Forge!
Thank you Titan Forge.
Thanks Titanforge!
Thanks Titan forge! Sorry I let my membership slip when my last printer died.
Looks like a darn good printer, thanks for the review Ross. Also, thank you Titan Forge 👍
Thank you!
Was looking into getting the saturn 4 ultra for my next resin printer, but this one honestly looks better. The bath heater in combination with the lack of a fancy box (I have my own ventilated place for resin printing) makes it pretty attractive for me. However, it seems to lack a few of the quality of life changes you'd expect from a 2024 printer, and indeed the pump is way too situational and finicky to be included in the standard package (especiaslly with the deeper vat). Would love to see an in depth comparison of printers in this price range.
Thanks mate, yep I’m gonna do this. It’s a hard one. But I’m just gonna lay out the comparison elements and let viewers decide what they want…
Thanks Titanforge
Hello, great video! I have a question. I want to buy a resin printer or maybe two (but from the same model). Which resin printer do you suggest? I have three on my list. I just want full Wi-Fi connectivity, speed, and good quality. Thank you very much! :)
UniFormation GKtwo, Anycubic Photon Mono M7 Pro, Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra.
Or maybe you can suggest a different one that is not on the list. I am very worried about making the wrong decision :(
Just need the tilt release and it will be a solid buy.
and the Saturn just needs heater...
@@FauxHammer Exactly... Getting so close.
Thanks Titanforge 😁
The pump looks like it has an air channel and vents at the bottom so it shouldn't be a problem afding an external filter or purifier. I just noticed on my third watch.
I know I’m sorry, I noticed it when I watched the video go live and slapped myself in the face
Fantastic review. I’m really not sure I like the vat heating concept. Extra clean up steps, more to go wrong etc. Only time will tell how reliable this is long term.
5:30 thats the first time I've seen anyone try to pour resin back without a funnel and preferably also filter, was that for the vid or do you usually do that?
I normally use a funnel, I lost it. I have. Lot of crap in here.
Someone else just asked this same question question
5:39 so this isn’t just a resin printers problem I don’t know how meny jugs I’ve found that have god awful lips, it’s something we didn’t used to have a problem with older jugs pour fine but some of the more modern jugs from brands like pyrex suck at pouring liquid they go everywhere or for some reason the water decides to define gravity somehow and stick to the side of the jug just long enough to drop down several inches from the lip onto the worktop instead of the bottle or cup you were aiming for.
back at it again witha great vid!
Thanks so much!!!
Thanx titan forge
I don't see the point in having a resin pump, doubly so if the vat has an actually decent capacity to begin with. Seems like a pointless thing to me that would stay in the box, and I agree, would be better to have it be an extra those who want can pay for.
I do have to say that heating the resin itself is a neat touch. The big thing will be just how long that pump will last, and what replacement costs will be.
Both great points that I completely agree with.
Great video as always Ross. Have you given up on keeping your list of best printers updated? I ask as i very much trust your opinion.
So I've been playing with my M7 Pro for a few weeks now and am a little unsure how to proceed. My first attempt at using the speed printing for normal resin test was a big fail, and since I didn't have any speed resin, I reverted back to the standard - standard resin, standard speed. I've been very happy with this, but know I'm not getting the full power out of this machine. I even now have the speed resin I originally preordered with the machine.
Here's my dilemma - whenever I pick one of the speed options - standard or fast resin - I get a warning about them only being good for hollowed models, and with a maximum 2mm wall. No one I've seen mentions this, so I'm unsure:
1. Is this indeed a requirement?
2. If so, I have plenty of hollowed models from various creators, but how do I know if they're within the 2mm threshold?
3. If I manually hollow a small 32mm miniature, won't 2mm thickness cause air pockets that can't easily be vented and are separate from the main cavity(ies)?
Thanks in advance.
i am interested to see what you think about the krobra 3 combo, and please look at the nozzle because every other review of it I've seen they didn't look at it
I have it on my desk now. Give me a couple of weeks.
I’ll look at the nozzle. I’m loving the approach that AnyCubic has taken here in some regards.
Others are…. Well, they are typical AnyCubic. But I’m not completely unimpressed. The ACE is nice
@@FauxHammer I appreciate you replying and the way you review things, it's very genuine if something is bad you very clearly say what's wrong with it and that you have the standpoint of ease of use because the marketing numbers either. Yeah from what I've seen it seems the ACE has more potential than the printer, that they tried but fell short of replicating the bambu experience but so long as it prints well without much effort on my end that's all I'm looking for.
@@adamdart6809 so the crux is, that’s the bit I’m still looking for too…
I know this question has nothing to do with M7 pro, but do you know anything about (possibly) upcoming uniformation 3D printers? I've heard it throught the grapevine that uniformation will announce 2 new printers in the next week or so... so yeah, I was hoping you'd be able/willing to shed some more light on that.. thanks! cheers!
oh and thanks, Titan Forge! 😉
Yes I do know
Mark, most companies are now sending Non-Disclosure-Agreements to CZcamsrs before sending anything for review. So, yeah, 😂 He knows - but he cannot afford to be sued 😮
@@GeekDetour yep, I love not being sued
@@FauxHammer perfectly understandable 😁
@@GeekDetour yeah, few of us can afford/look forward to being sued 😂
The resin heater system moving the resin throughout the print is a very good thing because like the s4 tilting it could help keep the resin mixed during long prints, cleaning looks annoying tho
Yeah it’s an interesting way to do it
I always use a funnel when pouring resin back into the bottle, but yeah I can't believe they haven't fixed that design yet lol.
So do I normally. But I forgot where I put it!
Hi Ross, I want to buy a resin printer and I have in mind the Anycubic M7 pro, the uniformation GK two and the Heygears ultracraft . Which one you think it would be my best bet for my first 3D resin printer? Thanks for the great video reviews. The uniformation with the cleaning station and the curing oven are $999 in your link.
thanks titanforge! :)
Why do you pour resin on top of the build plate? To make it look cool?
yes, that;s exactly why
That heater attached to the vat is a terrible design. Would avoid this printer based entirely on that.
I mean, it works? i would says it's certainly divisive. probably wouldn't push to terrible
Is there a reason you pour over the bed?additionally can you do a video on how you dispose of your contaminated ipa/water from washing
No reason other than it looks prettier…
@@FauxHammer love that!
you can get little screw drivers that are the size of like a big pen which make doing all the screw for feps 10x easier
I have one. They’re too weak
@@FauxHammer when the torque is too much you can just do half turns in your hand while holding the button and it will act like a ratchet screwdriver until its loose enough to unscrew it's self, same with tightening
The only printer I know that actually auto-levels is my Bambu and it's fantastic with that. I save so much time from just leveling alone lol. I know I'm talking about FDM though
Almost any 250 dollar plus fdm printer you can find on sale right now has auto mesh bed leveling, so it's not just the bambulab ones
Well that actually is auto levelling because it knows the height of all the points in the plate
Thanks, titan forge. How did you import custom file to RERF? I was under the impression you can only use the anycubic file. At least for the m5s
Make a file in the anycubic slicer with the model evenly split into the 8 sections. (Do not cross these sections or it won’t work) and save the file with the same name as the RERF file on the root of the usb drive
@@FauxHammer Thank you. I will try it.
Im whaiting your review about Kobra 3 combo multi color.
Hope Anycubic fix the Kobra 2 issues, i have one and boy its a pain to fix Z off set.
PFA for the win!
Why would you spill resin directly into the bottle? Use funnel with paper filter inside and you'll be fine.
It’s just to show the lack of spout accuracy. Of course use a funnel. Point still stands
@@FauxHammer I agree. I'd prefer better accuracy too, to prevent wiping sides or bottom of the vat after pouring to bottles.
Great review ! What would be an even faster printer than this one ?
I’m a little relieved TBH; seeing as how it is sitting in its box in my lounge as I type this. Always value your opinion. Thanks.
Hope you enjoy it!
Great video thank you! it's definitely helped me decide which printer to upgrade to.
Thanks, Oooh, which one
@@FauxHammer The Saturn 4 Ultra, its closer to my price point. I can pay in local currency and has the features I want.
Thank you for yet another great and informative review.
How would you say this stacks up against Elegoo Saturn 4 and Saturn 4 Ultra for someone who doesn't care about resin heating (I print in a heated room)? Is there a quality increase from 12k to 14k that justifies the price difference, in your opinion?
I am creating a comparison video in the next week if that helps
@@FauxHammer Excellent. I look forward to it.
thanks titan forge
You say the pump covers the air extraction vent so it's one or the other, but the pump does seem to have holes in the side for ventelation so it might work, will just have to wait and see I guess. Ultimately, the reason they had the vent in this werid place was because if they put it on the lid you would have to disconnect it constantly to remove the lid because they still won't give us flip lids!!!
I know. I noticed when the video went live and thought “you twat”
Great review, bloody hard to keep up how good these are! Nice work
Thanks a ton!
Thanks for the review!! Sharp, clear, detailed and funny - as always.
Ordered the M7 some time ago.
I think the M7 will do fine next to my M3 Premium 😊
Both Amazing printers!
That heater makes it an automatic no for me. I live in Texas, I don't need a heated vat. Ever. Not only is it superfluous expense, the fact it makes the vat unwieldy and requires using a fair amount of isopropyl alcohol to clean just makes it a deal killer.
Great review!
Question is though if these newest generation printers are starting to be comparable or even better than the GKTwo?
I think it’s now more of a choice if features you want.
But ask me again in about 3 weeks
Cheeky title - good review. Also interested in how good the heater is and its durability.
Thanks - Yep, time will tell
1. I purchased and am using this product. Is the basic film for this bed ACF? So, if ACF film is the default, I am thinking of ordering PFA.
2. When printing starts, does the cooler at the bottom of the machine make a lot of noise? Mine is very noisy. Does the bottom cooler make a lot of noise when printing starts?
hiya.
1. yeah i's ACF by default, I show me swapping it in the video.
2. it's on the quieter side of machines, but it;s a bit louder when the resin pump is on. it does not bother me and l'm in the same room as it. I can hear the build plate moving up and down over the fans and pumps
@@FauxHammer
The fan noise was so loud that I wondered if there was a problem with this.
1:30 "my credibility as an honest reviewer" I'm not saying you're not and I know you already explained clickbait titles previously but you overall praise a printer that you questioned to be worse than it's predecessor in the title. I mean wouldn't a "better ... than?" have done the same? I like your videos and watch them regardless of the title but such things do put me a little off. Just wanted to let you know still a nice video. 👍
Curious which folks will prefer, the M7 or the Saturn 4 pro. Can we get someone to combine the 2 and give us the best of all worlds?
Yeap I;m curious to see that too. I may do a Poll?
Thanks for the review! I've been sitting on this one for a while. It looks nice, but I think I'm going to stick with my M3 Premium for one more generation...
keep hold of that baby! it;s a gem!
Hey Faux Hammer i have been lokking for a big resin printer i wase looking for the Elegoo saturn 4 Ultra and now you show this one so now i am not sure what i should go for any idea on that ?? regards Hulksie
Do you want a printer with a heater, or can you sort heating out yourself and you would prefer speed?
if the former, get this, if the latter get the Saturn
@@FauxHammer Heating is no problem for me here and speed i think is depending on what i have to print
@@nielsbunger269 So the Saturn is speed with no quality loss versus this which has some quality caveats when you want speed. I would get the Saturn in your position
@@FauxHammer ok super thx for quick respond anf youre help love youre video´s
@@nielsbunger269 thanks mate, it;s what I'm here for.
Hi Ross, I'm wondering if during your testing for this review you monitored (Just with what is displayed on the UI) the resin temperature to see how well the heater did at keeping the resin at the set temperature? My M7 Pro just seems to heat the resin before the print and then turn off so after about an hour of printing the resin is back at ambient temperature. Thanks for all the reviews they are great.
As 'its summer and i print in an already heated room which has been almost 30 degrees, I was unable to test this at the time. but in my case I can hear the pump running throughout the print
@@FauxHammer Thanks for getting back to me. Seems like I might have a faulty unit then. Although I did notice an early version of the user manual shows an option in the function menu called "cycle in print" and that's no longer an option.
Thx titan forge
I tought I wanted the Saturn 4 ultra … but now I’m back again at the decision table. As I want the heat vat here and the tilt screen of the Saturn
But the Saturn 4 ultra has a +1 I think
yep. so do I, If i had this, I'd miss the tilting vat, if i had that, I'd miss the heater. I suppose you can make a heating solution easier than your own vat tilting solution?
Thanks, Titan Forge.
And while I'm here: maybe you can persuade your editor to stop cutting to cheezy stock footage so often, or ever. It's super annoying. It pushes me out of the otherwise immersive & compelling... World of Fauxhammer
Thanks and sorry, I like those clips. It suits my himor
@@FauxHammer A sense of himor is very important
I'm new to Resin Printing and just want a printer that works. Should i get this or should i get the Saturn 4 ? Not really interested in the Ultra.
This has more features than the basic Saturn
A problem I can see with the vat heater is failed prints or junk getting stuck in it. Glad they are trying something new but I am not convinced on itl.
Potential. the slip the resin goes under is tiny, but I admit I had not considered this. a bigger worry is the gunk left to dry inside it without a regular flush
I really appreciate your review! its on point and detailed as allways! thank you ross! I also like the style of the new m7 pro and its great that they beeing innovative with the new heater. buuuutttt to me m7pro doenst look like the go to printer, which is reliable, easy to use and has topnotch quality.. I preordered it allready but may cancel it, cause I dont like acf, that foil screen protector and the extra cleaning from the heated vat. if there were a gkthree with that "14k" screen or an phrozen revo with heated vat band, id pick it...
Stay subscribed to the channel. I’ll see you soon
So - there is no way to get the printer into your LAN or directly access it via WLAN, noted.
The resin heating sounds like an innovative idea - until the connections clog up after prolonged use. The implementation of the pump "tower" is crude but about bearable - too bad though this is a mandatory feature.
We had the ACF debate often enough and yet still there are new printers coming out with it. And no, i wouldn't swap it out myself, especially with the stupid tower on the vat.
Even if the printer were the fastest (which it's not) or the one printing the highest possible quality nothing about it screams BUY to me. Soo many toads to swallow, nah, hard pass.
Thanks Titan Forge 👍
Any tests of how well the heating actually works? Kind of important to know if the heating actually works in colder conditions or if its just to keep temperatures stable.
Kinda struggling to do that at the mo because it;s summer, even in the UK it;s too warm and I don't have a giant fridge to test it in. But this will come later in comparison videos and and end of year summary
@@FauxHammer Yeah I get you. Thought about a way to test it without just putting it in a big freezer and wasnt sure myself lol
Maybe put just a resin bottle in the fridge? This won’t be exact but should provide minimum time to heat estimate. You’ll also learn if they measure the ambient temperature or the actual resin temperature.