My Artwork Is Being Censored, What Should I Do?
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Leveraging social media has been a cornerstone in establishing my career, enabling me to showcase my art and engage with a global audience. However, the tightening grip of content guidelines across social media networks has led to continual censorship of my artworks. As upsetting as it is for me to lose connection with so many people who previously enjoyed my work, there is a much more ominous repercussion to artworks being censored across social media by artificial intelligence. In this discussion with Olga Speaks, we delve into the potential dangers of excessive censorship and its effect on artists and society.
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I find it sad to see that nudity in music videos is becoming more and more normal nowadays and at the same time really TRUE and VALUABLE art in the same subject areas is so censored...
this.
Those music videos make money for those social media companies.
That's why they can get away with it, everyone knows them
These platforms have stopped being about people being able to rise to popularity from nothing, it's about favoritism now, and the true artists only suffer
That sucks! What a time we are living in!
I can see dead children, violence or someone being beheaded on social media, but not art that might have a depiction of vague nudity....the worlds gone mad
I've been seeing those, including animal abuse, too... but hey, atleast we're safe from a woman's nipple. *Facepalm*
Ikr! Keep it Classy.Gets my vote.👍😎🎨💪💖
The inconsistency and hypocrisy of the CZcams censorship algorithm is maddening and mind-boggling. Never stop making what you're making. The world needs this, even if the YT gods disagree.
“Censorship is to art as lynching is to justice.” ~ Henry Louis Gates Jr
But they lynch Trump by the legal justice system right now, so it's happend
These are artistic freedoms NEW platforms are needed, the old and existing ones have lost their way and have become tools for authoritarianism. 💛
This! We need a new platform STAT
I appreciate that your video that brings censorship into focus in a very rational way.
I'm really divided on the topic of nudity/sexualized images on social platforms. Jono, I love your work. I find it tasteful without being sexually explicit. As a female, I do resent seeing sexualized images of women, especially those of scantly clad females with big boobs bursting out of their clothing and carrying weapons, or images that border on or actually are porn/erotica. Personally, I don't want to see porn, erotica and sexualized women (with or without weapons) in my social media feeds, so I do appreciate that social media platforms attempt to filter out these kinds of images. On the other hand, I've had social media platforms delete images I've saved from Medieval manuscripts, Egon Schiele, vintage photos of indigenous peoples, etc.
I understand that platforms need to be consistent with regard to "sexual" content and I agree that nudity does NOT = "sexual". I acknowledge that the algorithms cater to the strictest definitions of "inappropriate" in order to appease those with more restrictive definitions of "inappropriate" than yours or mine. Thank you for this conversation. You have my sympathy for being caught in the dilemma of the algorithms that restrict your work from being seen.
I sketched nude form and figures very very young, so I have been always aware of how this can be viewed and an artist can be treated.
I had issues in school and home on what was was appropriate and I ignored them with consequence.
So this is something I'm very familiar with in daily life, history, and now. I was worried when I saw a few years ago that they had to censor Tarot because of the art work on the rider Waite decks
I began to think abt the issues that would arise with CZcams and other artists. I'm sad to see I was right.
A shame!
So glad you spoke about this issue so eloquently.
I am angered that your work is censored it brings me so much inspiration ✨️
Thank you Brittany for sharing these thoughts and your kind words :)
Censorship like this should be illegal.
Censorship killed my CZcams channel. They demonetised my videos which was my income. My following here excelled after 100k followers then just flatlined in weeks. It had also killed my instagram account and all exposure that lead to work there.
Keep drawing as usual. Life is way, way, way to short to allow margins, boxes, restrictions, omissions to block your God gifted talents we love.
As long as you are drawing, and there are platforms that will allow you to put up your artwork, including your own website, you can't be censored, if we can still find you. ❤
Well said! Thank you for all of your support.
If I was you I would carry on with you awesome art, post it on youtube blurred or somehow partially covered, and inform people where you have published your full work. And upload your full work on uncensored platforms (I think e.g. Rumble is uncensored).
Don't allow social media to constrain you, Jono. Your images are provocative and intriguing, not always for the prudish sensibilities of social media. Brilliant work!
Thank you, Jake!
If you’re not true to yourself, who will be? Shine on Jono!
You should continue to create the beautiful masterpieces that you’ve become known for! I’ve had the same problem before.
This is the problem with social media, everything is easily centered without conciquence,other than to the artist.
Channels like yours is the only thing keeping me on yt. You go, I follow 😊
Dam man this is crazy I’m sick of all these new *user friendly* updates
Hyprocrisy! Nudity has always been there in any old painting. Why is that nowadays? This is art, for God's sake!!!! It's a shame social media are doing this...
Yet there are almost entirely naked women posing on Instagram for only fans…. Not shaming them or anything, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
I am an art model. In the last few years several muslims have demanded that I cover my genitals and/or buttocks while posing. I have refused, and I am quite offended to be asked such a thing. I'm quite concerned that this trend is on the increase.
I maintain my own web pages, and as social media becomes less trustworthy, it makes sense to me to just use it as a tool to drive traffic to my content, not as a host for it. If my content is worthy, viewers will find me.
This is wild, thank you for sharing ☺☺
That's ridiculous, man.
So ridiculous!! Your art is gorgeous! Social media platforms have silly rules and obviously can't tell art from 'other nudity (probably can"t use the p word without my comment being flagged)'. It's okay to spread all kinds of hate and false information on social media, but art is apparently offensive. So utterly stupid!
It’s not just art that gets censored. It’s text and viewpoints, political opinions and your freedom to express yourself whether it’s artistic or not. It’s everywhere and quite subtle sometimes but it seams to be getting worse and worse.
absolutely. yet they don't protect kids from accessing adult sites/graphic images do they....the ONE thing that they SHOULD censor on the net....which begs the q, what is their real agenda then, its obv not to protect the innocence of minors (as they also allow them on social media itself, which always seems wreckless, as kids can post the most terribly damaging content that can and has led other kids to end themselves). so again - what's it really about? I know...but yt will censor if I write it:)
Olga's comment is a gem. Do small things consistently over a long period of time. Change what YOU can change. If it's charity, you are guaranteed of helping the 1 person you can help today. Do that instead of pining for government charity. If it's social change, do something small that you can actually change.
Thanks for sharing, Jeff. I also really resonated with Olga's words and I think it is an inspiring way forward.
Great video Jono!
the reasons (algorithms) are just stupid. you are an amazing, layered person and an artist. loved every work of yours and never found anything objectionable. I stand with you bro. art is one of the few things that helps us keep sane in this insane world. just let it be they way it is
Your art is incredible and beautiful. Keep going.
Thank you so much 😀
This is a tough one. I think we've seen plenty of examples of the devolution of spaces when they are moderation-free. But how to have moderation that is intelligent, informed, and nuanced?
So true, thanks for sharing! It is such a tricky space to navigate. Hopefully we will have more nuanced forms of moderation in the future.
This is a crazy issue great video
The Synchronicity of the Human Body, Male & Female goes back to Biblical times. Your original depictions are individual to you & are unique & exceptional. These commentators know nothing about the appreciation of ART. Don't change,be you,I look forward to continuing your journey .
Censorship in art has suffocated creativity and vision. If we ever surrender to this control, we loose our humanity. I don't want AI controlling it's version of human creativity. I love your art. Your art is so expressive. Genuine and human. Keep creating.
If square space is supportive for artists, I should look into that service, too. I used to make a living with my art many years ago. I haven't had a safe space in years, to explore that joyful creativity. Keep creating your unique art. Never surrender.
I sealed off my IG due to suspicion of being reported by randos (stuff getting taken down a couple years after posting), but despite it all, my stuff was being hidden. I know this because I used my username as a tag and when I click it, it says content was hidden. So, I couldn't get my art seen regardless.
What a shame, keep up the good work
I am not only social media: facebook, Instagram, etc. Only have a youtube. Because ive been off work for the last few months. I have recently found my artistic spark and wanted to share my work and hopefully sell some work. Yet, ive always found marketing an uphill struggle and dont like to show off. I find myself in a tough situation. Thanks for all the work you do. Been a fan of yours for years.
Thank you Sophie - keep believing in yourself, and thank you for your kind words!
So glad you brought this up-It has driven me mad being told beautiful images i have come accross have been 'banned' by naive outraged or giggling onlookers -covering up our Natural born bodies encourages these stupid people .the ONLYproblem is when shown in a degaded fashion.
Thanks for your great video.
I’m only a hobbyist artist but like to make figure drawings. I faced often the same censorship as you mention.
Even harmless pieces were removed and I was banned from an online forum for posting artistic figure drawings and a condom drawing in comic style (just the condom, nothing else).
On another forum I was bullied out by prude people for posting harmless figure drawings as well.
Currently I only post on DeviantArt anymore and even there it is required to put a mature tag on anything that only show a female nipple. No chance to post a study from an ancient masterpiece like Michelangelo’s David without a mature tag or you risk being banned.
But picture and publish violence and gore is widely accepted
It’s just crazy how many people have a dark prude medieval mindset, not only Islamic fundamentalists but also a lot of US Christian people.
Europe with a modern liberal mindset seems to be an exception and is surrounded by medieval mindsets.
The human form and nudity is nothing to be ashamed and nothing to be hidden even from kids,
but many people are such indoctrinated by religion and stereotypes that they do not understand that sexual content and nudity are two different things.
At least I tried to raise my son not being ashamed from nudity from the beginning on and I think I succeeded.
Unfortunately it seems all bigger social media are controlled by prude people with a crude medieval religious mindset.
So I feel with you and agree.
Your artwork is so incredible, I think you are a genius. I'm just sad this video didn't have any option for a "thumbs up" button to support what you said so eloquently.
Thank you for your kind words :)
Ugh I so relate - my work is being censored by an AI site I paid for at the creation end. What a hypocritical world - we foster violence and porn but become super critical or artists. I support you and your work is beautiful and anyone with an issue is a perv him/herself. Healthy people are going there.
😢😱😤increíble, esto es arte ,amo tu trabajo es admirable ...
Nudity in art isn’t a new concept as you correctly say, but censorship to this degree is relatively new in terms of how it’s being done.
Firstly, being offended by nudity doesn’t mean that the subject is inherently offensive. That being the case, anything flagged to social media moderators should be judged in context. The offence felt by an individual is subjective and therefore, in my opinion, quite irrelevant.
The biggest issue is definitely how an algorithm is programmed to assess an image. If it is told to censor anything which displays genitalia for example, then it will do so blindly and without considering nuance or context.
If algorithms cannot tell the difference between pornography and nude artwork, then how many great examples of art will be permanently hidden from us? There will never be enough human moderators in social media to cope, so what’s the answer?
Moderation by AI, if utilised properly could be the answer though. As it has the capacity to learn and evolve its “thinking”, given enough examples it could be a better judge than algorithms.
This video's subject reminds me of the central position the social medias took in our life.
Maybe, this social media's constraint they impose (about nudity) could be an opportunity for artists to invite people to continue to discover their uncensored work in real life ?
Your work is beautiful. It’s not vulgar in anyway. Facebook shut me down because of a bogus copyright infringement claim. I don’t copy other people’s art. So much BS online.
I love your art, nudity is natural. ❤
Wow your art is amazing. The human body is a work of art and is beautiful which is why we want to draw it. Artists ‘see’ and that is why we are censored and treated badly throughout the centuries. Same with musicians and other creatives. Court Jesters got away with things as they made the kings laugh. Now they are under threat too. Facebook business manager has sensors my embroidery designs and I have no idea why, other than some of the cartoon baby designs are naked but there are no bits showing. Others I have no idea.
UMLILO 👊🏿🖤
It's sad when the give art rules when art have no rules
Maybe the reliance on social media needs to be reconsidered? eg, What if an artist were to only use social media as a tool for driving traffic to their personal website? (As maybe an example of Jono's comment at 6:02)
What I most have issue with is the concession of a natural aesthetic, like the nude in art, to a sinful endeavor like pornography or other explicit media. 🤦🏻♀️🔥😔
Expression and liberté are very important. No one havé obligation To see film, book and ordre média. We are not childrens. Nevertheless, protect childrens is important but the parents must havé rime about this. The rest is rest. I support you and Hope it will be ok ! Sorry for my bad english….😅
Speak it Olga: Supporting independent spaces! (Both physical and digital independent spaces.)
It's ridiculous the way nudity is censored, there is a huge difference between the casual nudity found in Naturism, the nudity of eroticism and of outright explicit pornography. The tendency is for all nudity to be lumped together and that is a tragedy.
That is really frightening. We could understand artists such as Lucien Freud being limited. The problem is that very young children see these images, but your artwork & general well placed artwork should not be censored. Horrifying
Me inspiro muito em você ❤
WTF... This is insane!
Algorithms as a whole deciding what we can not see or hear should scare us to action. Odd flip from the past when religion decided what was good or bad for us.. now it is AI / Algorithms .
It is so sad, that the wrong kind of nudity is cencored! This is no s** this is art. I don't understand why poeple are so sensetiv about nudity that is a depiction of nature. I remember back when I was a child (80's) in Germany, there where nudity every where (sauna, public swimming pools, beaches, movies, art) and to me it was totaly normal.
This is a sad situation, as any person with a computer or phone can view the dark side of nudity and porn but are blocked in an attempt to enjoy the fruits of an incredible human skill. The desire and mindset required to create is an amazing human trait, but those who are afraid of their own place in humanity (be it due to religiosity or prudishness) work so very hard to stifle and discard the beauty many of us need. That said, if you, Jono, would just roll up and send me all of your artwork and start over without offending anyone, that might the answer!😁
Use the censorship as inspiration FOR your art. It's basically the tech sector politicising everything. Art, culture and politics can't really be separated, you have to work hard to not do that. Or maybe be so harmless and ineffective as an artist that it's not a problem. Art is supposed to challenge, lean into it.
ridiculous that they censor artworks and yet we have fashion vloggers wearing transparent clothes (basically naked)
I wonder why even non nude art is getting flagged and still there is literally nude photos of real models and celebrities on the platform for a long time 😢
However that show violence like it’s Disneyland.. ridiculous
That's insane, but then they let only fans women run amuck on all social sites. It's sickening
Yes especially since sites like only fans are prostitution and exist only to sell sex while nudity in art is typically not intended to entice sexually but to explore form. These so called censors are working from the idea that any exposed skin MUST be intended as an enticement to perversion and nothing else. People who censor and create ways to censor are usually the people that are finding this type of art sexual and in a vain attempt to keep anyone from learning their horrible secret, attempt to hide it from everyone or the rest of us will realize that only the censors at the ones finding this the most enticing
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I can't tell you in exact words the difference between nudity vs erotic artwork, but you know it when you see it. Art evokes a lot of emotion and I think it's hard to put either category within strict parameters. It makes it tricky to weed out the bad from the good. But a broad-stroke banning of nudity as if the human form is inherently sinful is not the best approach. Nudity+action+evocation for sexual intent I think is the simplest way to discern if something is erotic "on paper". But I'm sure there's some tongue-in-cheek way eros artists can skirt this, or puritans can bend it.
I am a Christian and actively practice my faith and I still hear "why can't you draw something christian?" Or "why do they have to be naked". Gee, I don't know. Maybe I'm celebrating the height of God's creation by studying the human form.
I suppose no good artist can create a work without there being a proper controversy. The goal is to evoke a response after all.
Instagram, like almost all online social media platforms, were designed with capitalism in mind, not creation, and definitely not art. Capitalism is antithetical to art, and we are seeing that more and more as technology has allowed our consumption to be in our faces 24/7. Art is no longer about experiences or feelings, it's about ownership and exploitation (see: NFTs & AI generated media). As much as I dislike the art gallery industry, there is a level of elevation that happens when you exhibit your work, as opposed to sending it off on a conveyor belt to an audience who are largely uninterested in sitting with art. Especially, when they can scroll away so quickly and see something new. As much as I like the internet, and all the positives it can reign in, it's however been my experience that the internet has harmed humanity more than it helped.
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el arte no deberia ser censurado cualquier tipo de arte. se deben beneficiar de alguna manera al censurar tu arte.
tu arte es una de las mejores que e visto! debe haber alguna mano negra alguien no quiere que vendas tu arte.
esto es muy raro
Welcome to the real word of traditional art...
Nice
This world is on direction to disaster. That would not be the first time....
But the most interesting thing is this, that NOW in CZcams you can find absolutely nudity/porn views..
🤔#Fig Leaf! Problem solved.💖👍😎
Don’t stop. If you stop, they win.
If I were you, I’d start investing time and money into creating a new platform for artists to post their work free from censorship, and not just you, get other big name artists involved as well! This is only going to get worse so let’s get ahead of the curve.
This is ridiculous, I can't see legitimate art portraying the human form online but yet I'm bombarded with naked bodies in a manner that is anything but art. It's fair to say the 'system' may be well intended but it's broken, it doesn't work, it censors genuine art while allowing through images it should be censoring and this generates huge income for the social media companies. This is the crux of the argument, it's not in their interest to censor anything but they can claim they're trying and making mistakes with nudity in art.
PINTREAST also censor art..when I have pinned various pieces from any of the old masters . THEY SENT ME A notice that they had removed the 'offended ' piece. Furthermore if I violated their terms My account would be terminated"
Welcome to the puritan double standard Era of BS from social media. I share your pain. 😂
The implemented system is garbage, you are an artist Jono, one of the best...
BLASPHEMY!
Instagram is horrible.
Are you an Art critic or an Artiste?
A Book burner or a Novelist?
A Health and Safety officer or a Risk taker?
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And a lot of one leaned, for some time.
But that is the nature of Space
And that is the nature of Time.
Time turns in to space
And Space turns in to Time
Would you like a lemon?
…with your lime?
Sometimes a lot of space, but not much time
Sometimes so much Space,
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No plan of action survives first contact.
So Patience!, Dear Watson!,
We all need our homes,
Believe me I try not be too shocking,
With my Sherlocking,
But!
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I buried a bone,
A bit like a dog.
No murder commited,
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I’m burying the hatchet,
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AI creates art. AI manages who sees human art. The metaphors/issues in the Matrix are here now. Thank you Jono. You inspire my life.
Dang yo
May God be with you ❤
Only humans have made the human body derogatory. Art is an extension & an expression of life, a real human emotion. It is the imagery of our subconscious, that allows us to bring to life a consciousness for others to enjoy, become inspired or provoke thought, it is the conscious self that creates evolution of humanity, furthering newer generations to create expressions of humanity-elevating a higher evolution of man.
So should we now lock the doors of museums, libraries; void of history, eliminate what could be deemed provocative words from the dictionary, ban thought, research, the advancement of life, because a few people have censored the human body, mind & ideals(spirit) which is our lifeline on Earth?! Fk NO!
What should you do? Lean into it, make art that is even MORE controversial. You are making people think, make them think harder. How about making something reminiscent of the French revolution?
Que ridiculez ... en el siglo en la que desnudez esta en todos lados que hipocresía !
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Jesus would have been nude when crucified and I have yet to see that depicted.
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Vivimos en la dictadura de los algoritmos. Me encanta el dibujo realista del desnudo, pero siempre se censura. Una pena.
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It is sad, you'er not like Schiele nor Klimt. I just don't get it, who are these idiots. Censors and Critics are titles that are just an excuse for those who can do little if anything.
So what are we going to do about this? If we all stopped watching, commenting , and publishing on CZcams for let’s say 10 days, in order to protest against this stupid bigotry, then maybe the people at Meta would react in a sense that feels normal to normally intelligent people. Each and every one of us is responsible for this censorship by just allowing them to do so.
But they are right !
Don't you got anything else than nudity ?
When artist went out of ideas - nudity cames on display !
So do lost people, when they useless even for themself - they end up on the streets, nude !
So basicly if you got a One Hit Wonder Picture & nothing else - you automaticly end up with the nudity !
It's a natural rule BUT MOST IMPORTANT it shows the meaningless & unsignificy of the so called "artist" !
Wrong, nudity has always been present in art since ancient times it’s artistic choice not a desperate cry.
@@xmaryHXCx he's got a point. Often enough artists create art by utilizing nudity. There is never one single motivation, but he is correct to state that nudity is a vehicle. Often to transport an idea. It is a powerful vehicle because seeing human figures creates closeness in our imagination and so we can better identify with the picture.
It is just harder to identify with a tree than with a nude person.
AI creates art. AI manages who sees human art. The metaphors/issues in the Matrix are here now. Thank you Jono. You inspire my life.
When you press one button and a big black box throws a fully functioning car at you, who created the car?
Was it you who demanded the car?
Was it the black box, who assembled the car?
Was it the software developers, who imagined abstract ideas into a wicked complex algorithm?
Was it the manufacturers who supplied the black box with all the parts?
Was it the people who in their chaotic heads combined lose ideas into existence?
Just like the mass produced car is just a product, the things that AI presents us with also is nothing more than just a product, but not art.
Art comes into existence because it has an urge to free and expose it self. GPT doesn't proceduce content beause if feels like it must, but rather because you commanded it.
Besides, it is a marketing lie to call it "AI" when in fact it is "machine learning". Though, even "machine learning" is a lazy and incorrect word for what it really is. It is in fact the expansion a statistical model though complex mathematical algorithm. But that doesn't sound sexy, and thus marketing decided to call it AI.
@@Herr_Vorragender Yes exactly. It's really the theft and amalgamation of other people's art captured through programming. You certainly can't steal the IP of a corporation but they can sure steal from us. In any case our lives our being upended by machines, or people acting like machines: 'just following procedure', 'sorry but that's the policy I need to follow'.