The Mahlo property is a property that characterizes certain cardinal numbers called Mahlo cardinals. A cardinal number κ has the Mahlo property if, for any collection of fewer than κ many sets, there is a large subset S of κ such that for every element α in S, the set of predecessors of α that are not in the collection has a smaller cardinality than κ. In other words, the Mahlo property ensures the existence of large subsets of κ that avoid certain collections of sets.
@@projectfm684Basically The Mahlo is an cardinal proposed by the mathematician Paul Mahlo which gonna be based on an innacessible cardinal but not really since that's gonna be an cardinal which is hyper-innacessible to the simple innacessible cardinal and innacessibly strong to the innacessible cardinal , An innacessible cardinal is an High outerversal structure and The Mahlo cardinal is strongly innacessible / Hyper-innacessible to the innacessible cardinal at base so the Mahlo cardinal gonna be an baseline boundless structure , that's facts or cap ?
project FM i have a question with OC fallacy. could you give your opinion on this arg rq. Author A is Writing a Work for Powerscaling. Author B is writing a work that just has powerful characters in it. Author A's work has good writing (death note and berserk levels of writing) but his overall intent is to Create a verse for powerscaling. Author A Plans out how he's going to do it without getting caught. Author A make sure to include all of the Powerscaling buzz words that would obviously scale high. Author A make sure to distract you with the story. Author A's Truer intention is to make a verse for powerscaling and for it to be power scaled. Author B writes a decent enough story with some pretty strong characters. Said characters strengths are around Outerverseal (for the sake of agurment) Being outer is all you really need to get "backlash." Despite story B not being The best work of fiction it is still a decent work of fiction. However Author B now has to fight Powerscalers due to a causation dubbed "The Unknown Paradigm." Essentially what this entails is Whenever a new character pops up and it isn't a SCP people will quickly go to discredit said character if it isn't from one off ranchises established powerscaling franchises. Now Author B's intent was never to create a verse for scaling yet they say he is. Author A's intent is 100% to create a verse for scaling without getting called out for it. And because Author A has built a bias wall(IE: a wall of ignorance in which people will just ignore the obvious tier wank) He can just sit back and get his verse higher. Verses like World of darkness are in this position (But the WoD writers probably dont really interact or know about the Powerscaling community.) Overall While Author A's true intention is to make a verse for scaling. Author B's is just to make a story with powerful characters. Because Author A wrote a story with the intention of hiding the obvious scaling he can sit back and watch Author B get default danced on. Essentially via story alone you cannot know the authors true intentions when it comes to powerscaling Due to a real life example of author A existing (IE: L. Suggs, Jo jo Mangaka.)
That's not OC Fallacy at all, if you're going to make an official story and it gets licensed, even if the intent was power scaling and you make it obvious then it still won't fall under OC fallacy, OC Fallacy is when something is not official or licensed and it is made for simply being overpowered with no good story. However there is another term for characters that are OP and have bad story but are licensed and that is a Mary Sue which you probably know what it is.
The fact that the author A actually tries to create a well made story to give PURPOSE to his op characters, it completely saves his Verse from falling under OC fallacy.
The others gave CN so I'll give EN :D 1) Universe Prime/Unreality 2) Narrativohazards 3) Swann 4) Overvoid lurk 5) Good times resolution club 6) Proxy editors (4010 and Bright included) 7) The 13 Constants 8) CORE.EXE/Mnemosyne/6183/4736 9) 4755/Tufto/Lotus/Verne 10) IS/IS NOT/LOGICIAN Note: characters such as 3812 or Murphy are not ranked due to inconsistencies.
1: The Universe Prime/The Mind 2: The Pseudo-Mind 3: SCP-3812 (Fully Ascended) 4: The Database and The Narrativohazards 5: The Overvoid Lurk and The Pseudo-Beasts 6: Good Times Resolution Club/SCP-5875 7: The Proxy Editors (Dr. Elias Shaw, Madeleine Sailer, etc.) 8: The Ontokinetics and Robert Scranton/SCP-106 9: DEAD WEIGHT = DON’T KILL THE VIBE and FINAL GATE 10: The Scarlet King (SCP-001: Tufto’s Proposal) and The Foundation (SCP-4755) 11: The 13 Constants 12: Marion Wheeler and SCP-2719 13: SCP-001 (I.H Pickman’s Proposal) 14: SCP-055 (Totem) and SCP-079 (Incomplete) 15: The Administrator and The Black Moon 16: Static, Rose Labelle, Adamo Smalls and The Void 17: Calvin Lucien and Aaron Siegel 18: SCP-3812 (Pre-Ascension) 19: IS and IS NOT 20: CORE.exe and Mnemosyne.aic 21: SCP-INTEGER and ••|••••|••|• 22: HATBOT and 8-Ball (Merged with HATBOT) 23: WAN (Incomplete Network)
Thx for other video, Goat But honestly... I Can't Understand... I know how works an "commom" inacessible cardinal number, but I can' urderstand higher than this like Mahlo, Reinhardt, Church Kleene etc What about try to explaing these cardinals in a video but with easier words? English is not my native languange...
BRO WOBLYGONE SOLOS it’s like probably not even the strongest character not even a difficulty instant loss and I’m not like one of those dumb people read the book and you will learn for yourself or the wiki
The fuck I just wrote a whole essay and it disappeared anyway blah blah blah they would wanna solo just just read the book. The strongest character is the disc of unborn souls
How to create a extremely op cosmology without any mathematics? Because most op cosmology is complete mathematical albert einstein stephen hawking math 900 billion IQ stuff. And as i am brainless i can't create a strong ahh cosmology.
So, I got a question here. I stopped understanding the VSBW tiering system after like High 1-A, so let me get this clear How the fuck can something like this scale in the first place? Is it like, in dimensions or what?
You have to use ZFC theory to reach boundless and any higher Axiom to get layered into boundless. However for CSAP it's much easier since all you have to do is prove that a character is superior to platonic concepts to reach 1-S
@@Rachjumper still don't understand how the fuck ZFC theory gives you anything above High 1-B at best. All of this is still a number. Yeah, a big ass number, but still a number
@@ambassadorofbadtaste Well if you really can't understand it then just use CSAP's tiering system since it's about concepts instead of this college level mathematics.
@@Rachjumper bold of you to assume everyone studies maths at fucking college, one. You had to fucking tell me were all these numbers used in dimensional tiering or not, not this bullshit with ZFC theory, two
In level of existence, dimensions is no longer apply after you reached L1A. To put it in a simple term, if Inaccessible cardinals represents as a higher level of infinity than the Aleph hierarchy then Mahlo will be the same. It’s represented as a higher level of infinity than both of them.
@@ziadhulhok Well apparently tier 0 has a limit. For example the “boundless” tier is bound by mathematics which you transcend the concept of dimensionality.
![Journey From Tier 12 - Tier 0 [Powerscaling]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SyyOJ3qbw30/mqdefault.jpg)
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The Mahlo property is a property that characterizes certain cardinal numbers called Mahlo cardinals. A cardinal number κ has the Mahlo property if, for any collection of fewer than κ many sets, there is a large subset S of κ such that for every element α in S, the set of predecessors of α that are not in the collection has a smaller cardinality than κ. In other words, the Mahlo property ensures the existence of large subsets of κ that avoid certain collections of sets.
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Basically what you said in the video
@@Rhetorical_Ifeyep
@@projectfm684Basically The Mahlo is an cardinal proposed by the mathematician Paul Mahlo which gonna be based on an innacessible cardinal but not really since that's gonna be an cardinal which is hyper-innacessible to the simple innacessible cardinal and innacessibly strong to the innacessible cardinal , An innacessible cardinal is an High outerversal structure and The Mahlo cardinal is strongly innacessible / Hyper-innacessible to the innacessible cardinal at base so the Mahlo cardinal gonna be an baseline boundless structure , that's facts or cap ?
@@tyzz_wtxpretty much accurate
Bro is on a upload spree
Do i am that i am vs self reference engine
project FM i have a question with OC fallacy.
could you give your opinion on this arg rq.
Author A is Writing a Work for Powerscaling.
Author B is writing a work that just has powerful characters in it.
Author A's work has good writing (death note and berserk levels of writing) but his overall intent is to Create a verse for powerscaling.
Author A Plans out how he's going to do it without getting caught.
Author A make sure to include all of the Powerscaling buzz words that would obviously scale high.
Author A make sure to distract you with the story.
Author A's Truer intention is to make a verse for powerscaling and for it to be power scaled.
Author B writes a decent enough story with some pretty strong characters.
Said characters strengths are around Outerverseal (for the sake of agurment)
Being outer is all you really need to get "backlash."
Despite story B not being The best work of fiction it is still a decent work of fiction.
However Author B now has to fight Powerscalers due to a causation dubbed
"The Unknown Paradigm."
Essentially what this entails is
Whenever a new character pops up and it isn't a SCP people will quickly go to discredit said character if it isn't from one off ranchises established powerscaling franchises.
Now Author B's intent was never to create a verse for scaling yet they say he is.
Author A's intent is 100% to create a verse for scaling without getting called out for it.
And because Author A has built a bias wall(IE: a wall of ignorance in which people will just ignore the obvious tier wank)
He can just sit back and get his verse higher.
Verses like World of darkness are in this position (But the WoD writers probably dont really interact or know about the Powerscaling community.)
Overall While Author A's true intention is to make a verse for scaling.
Author B's is just to make a story with powerful characters.
Because Author A wrote a story with the intention of hiding the obvious scaling he can sit back and watch Author B get default danced on.
Essentially via story alone you cannot know the authors true intentions when it comes to powerscaling
Due to a real life example of author A existing
(IE: L. Suggs, Jo jo Mangaka.)
OC fallacy just means a character without a verse cant be scaled what are you on about bro
That's not OC Fallacy at all, if you're going to make an official story and it gets licensed, even if the intent was power scaling and you make it obvious then it still won't fall under OC fallacy, OC Fallacy is when something is not official or licensed and it is made for simply being overpowered with no good story. However there is another term for characters that are OP and have bad story but are licensed and that is a Mary Sue which you probably know what it is.
The fact that the author A actually tries to create a well made story to give PURPOSE to his op characters, it completely saves his Verse from falling under OC fallacy.
How can a verse demonstrate a mahlo cardinal?
ZFC
Using ZFC set theory?
Top strongest characters scp
1. Scp 682
2. ABSS
3. Void emperor
4. Scp 7709
5. Nukuna
6. Scp 000
7. Scp 1915
8. High elder gods
9. Pseudo actors
10. Scp 124435 JP
metanormalcy - 01
void emperor - 02
scarlet demon - 03
true protagonist of life - 04
adabas & holos - 05
The others gave CN so I'll give EN :D
1) Universe Prime/Unreality
2) Narrativohazards
3) Swann
4) Overvoid lurk
5) Good times resolution club
6) Proxy editors (4010 and Bright included)
7) The 13 Constants
8) CORE.EXE/Mnemosyne/6183/4736
9) 4755/Tufto/Lotus/Verne
10) IS/IS NOT/LOGICIAN
Note: characters such as 3812 or Murphy are not ranked due to inconsistencies.
1: The Universe Prime/The Mind
2: The Pseudo-Mind
3: SCP-3812 (Fully Ascended)
4: The Database and The Narrativohazards
5: The Overvoid Lurk and The Pseudo-Beasts
6: Good Times Resolution Club/SCP-5875
7: The Proxy Editors (Dr. Elias Shaw, Madeleine Sailer, etc.)
8: The Ontokinetics and Robert Scranton/SCP-106
9: DEAD WEIGHT = DON’T KILL THE VIBE and FINAL GATE
10: The Scarlet King (SCP-001: Tufto’s Proposal) and The Foundation (SCP-4755)
11: The 13 Constants
12: Marion Wheeler and SCP-2719
13: SCP-001 (I.H Pickman’s Proposal)
14: SCP-055 (Totem) and SCP-079 (Incomplete)
15: The Administrator and The Black Moon
16: Static, Rose Labelle, Adamo Smalls and The Void
17: Calvin Lucien and Aaron Siegel
18: SCP-3812 (Pre-Ascension)
19: IS and IS NOT
20: CORE.exe and Mnemosyne.aic
21: SCP-INTEGER and ••|••••|••|•
22: HATBOT and 8-Ball (Merged with HATBOT)
23: WAN (Incomplete Network)
@@laa4157 Void emperor, Abss?
ProjectFM
How can a verse properly demonstrate this Mahlo Cardinal?
ZFC
Why the fuck would someone even insert such stuff into their verse?
@Unknown-editz-69420that answers litteraly nothing about how to practically demonstrate what it is
@Unknown-editz-69420just say they’d have to be infinite and boundless entirely at all time and no restrictions or holding back is possible due to it
Thx for other video, Goat
But honestly... I Can't Understand... I know how works an "commom" inacessible cardinal number, but I can' urderstand higher than this like Mahlo, Reinhardt, Church Kleene etc
What about try to explaing these cardinals in a video but with easier words?
English is not my native languange...
BRO WOBLYGONE SOLOS it’s like probably not even the strongest character not even a difficulty instant loss and I’m not like one of those dumb people read the book and you will learn for yourself or the wiki
The fuck
I just wrote a whole essay and it disappeared anyway blah blah blah they would wanna solo just just read the book. The strongest character is the disc of unborn souls
Ehat does infinities mean?
An uncountable number that's all
How to create a extremely op cosmology without any mathematics? Because most op cosmology is complete mathematical albert einstein stephen hawking math 900 billion IQ stuff. And as i am brainless i can't create a strong ahh cosmology.
So, I got a question here. I stopped understanding the VSBW tiering system after like High 1-A, so let me get this clear
How the fuck can something like this scale in the first place? Is it like, in dimensions or what?
You have to use ZFC theory to reach boundless and any higher Axiom to get layered into boundless. However for CSAP it's much easier since all you have to do is prove that a character is superior to platonic concepts to reach 1-S
@@Rachjumper still don't understand how the fuck ZFC theory gives you anything above High 1-B at best. All of this is still a number. Yeah, a big ass number, but still a number
@@ambassadorofbadtaste Well if you really can't understand it then just use CSAP's tiering system since it's about concepts instead of this college level mathematics.
@@Rachjumper bold of you to assume everyone studies maths at fucking college, one. You had to fucking tell me were all these numbers used in dimensional tiering or not, not this bullshit with ZFC theory, two
In level of existence, dimensions is no longer apply after you reached L1A. To put it in a simple term, if Inaccessible cardinals represents as a higher level of infinity than the Aleph hierarchy then Mahlo will be the same. It’s represented as a higher level of infinity than both of them.
Anti principle and zenith is beyond tiering
Disagree = I respect your opinion
Hating = 🤡
There is no such thing called beyond tiering buddy
Below tiering system
@@ziadhulhoktrue
@@ziadhulhok
Well apparently tier 0 has a limit. For example the “boundless” tier is bound by mathematics which you transcend the concept of dimensionality.
@@Copeharderretard
They are not below tiering. They break the vsbw tiering system and is around high outer in csap.