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  • Lisa and Steve Daniels have six beautiful children between the ages of two and 13, but the pretty picture ends there. Chaos rules; Lisa and Steve don't. Cursing, hitting and general misbehaviour are commonplace among the kids. The kids are so out of control that their parents have given up trying to manage or teach them. Jo tells Lisa and Steve that they're lazy and need to grow up and be parents.
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  • @ShortStuffMegs21
    @ShortStuffMegs21 Před 10 měsíci +3691

    Hailey gets all of moms crap and anger because she actually listens to her and does her punishments. No one else does.

    • @BMbrystal
      @BMbrystal Před 10 měsíci +90

      Exactly how I get treated

    • @janegaff6970
      @janegaff6970 Před 9 měsíci +148

      Exactly. She got results from Hailey and dismissed by the others so used Hailey to get her frustration of the others out.

    • @mirlynesajous646
      @mirlynesajous646 Před 5 měsíci +31

      Yep that's definitely right I agree

    • @user-ij3bi4wt5w
      @user-ij3bi4wt5w Před 4 měsíci +39

      and in the beginning she said hailey was the worst which obviously isn't true i would be so sad 😞

    • @Wii961
      @Wii961 Před 4 měsíci +2

      LANGUAGE

  • @rachelwalker5959
    @rachelwalker5959 Před 11 měsíci +5446

    "I don't remember the last time my mum hugged me" - that pierced my heart.

  • @aubrey8673
    @aubrey8673 Před 4 měsíci +1945

    Spitting at someone is one of the most disrespectful things you can do to someone and the fact that Mom is yelling at the person being spit at is beyond mind-boggling to me and the sister who’s being so disrespectful to her sister just walks away unscathed

    • @Littleginger30
      @Littleginger30 Před 4 měsíci +31

      In the uk it can get you done for assault , its vile

    • @feraltaco4783
      @feraltaco4783 Před 4 měsíci +36

      ​@@Littleginger30US here. I was arrested for assault after spitting on someone's car. I didn't hit her but she told the police that I did. That was one of my lowest points.

    • @DY1NG__SL0WLY
      @DY1NG__SL0WLY Před 4 měsíci +20

      It mostly the mums fault. Based on the way she raised her children made them they way they are. And if she continues to just let it go and sit around when barely doing anything.. yeah but also bad thing spitting is also bad, it’s kinda disgusting….

    • @livniix670
      @livniix670 Před 3 měsíci

      @@feraltaco4783
      😮

    • @sleepyjavanlangur
      @sleepyjavanlangur Před 3 měsíci +11

      Spitting is repulsive. I can’t believe the mom was ok with the spitting all over the place. It’s disrespectful and unhygienic.

  • @Aerialeditxx_Aldc
    @Aerialeditxx_Aldc Před 5 měsíci +1685

    The most difficult child is Lisa

  • @stacymeredith4798
    @stacymeredith4798 Před 11 měsíci +4192

    The fact that Jo had to tell Lisa to hug and kiss her daughter was just so sad.

    • @mandadenzer4648
      @mandadenzer4648 Před 11 měsíci +182

      And she didn't even do it! Just told her that she won't yell anymore but she'll just talk and tell her what she's doing wrong... like....😢

    • @masey423
      @masey423 Před 9 měsíci +138

      she resents her daughter for sure. not even hidden

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 9 měsíci +21

      Just breaks my heart

    • @christinamweber395
      @christinamweber395 Před 9 měsíci +50

      She didn't even want to look her in the eyes either

    • @christinamweber395
      @christinamweber395 Před 9 měsíci +16

      The girl is frustrated because she's not used to not getting her way kids know how to push buttons Joe's trying to teach her how to stand her ground on teaching kids consequences

  • @luvshekinahh
    @luvshekinahh Před 11 měsíci +2222

    When Jo Frost starts cussing you know she is nottt messing around

  • @ilovesparky13
    @ilovesparky13 Před 5 měsíci +1722

    Don’t keep having kids if you can’t take care of them 🙄

    • @Dripsterguard
      @Dripsterguard Před 4 měsíci +36

      Exactly

    • @rebeccaderas2352
      @rebeccaderas2352 Před 3 měsíci +20

      Hallelujah!

    • @noonnie9302
      @noonnie9302 Před 3 měsíci +102

      It often seems like the worst parents have the most children……

    • @arlenehelling8312
      @arlenehelling8312 Před 3 měsíci +16

      ⁠@@noonnie9302 5 kids in our family, fighting and yelling etc but eventually the good triumphed over bad purely because mom and dad disciplined us and made sure we understood the consequences. Today we are adults that benefit from that

    • @fairyshades
      @fairyshades Před 2 měsíci +5

      Exactly 👏👏👏

  • @julia_biss
    @julia_biss Před 3 měsíci +712

    Huge respect to the dad for committing to stick with discipline and telling the mother straight up that she needs to do her part. That's pretty rare on Supernanny considering most dads just blame the mother and take no responsibility

    • @rando-1.0
      @rando-1.0 Před měsícem +8

      True. This is the 2nd best dad on supernanny

    • @alexalex8323
      @alexalex8323 Před měsícem +1

      Who's the first?

    • @maisy745
      @maisy745 Před měsícem

      ​@@alexalex8323 yeah

    • @spidey4588
      @spidey4588 Před měsícem +2

      Yeah is the name of the dad? 😂

  • @katepustay304
    @katepustay304 Před 11 měsíci +2545

    Felt so bad for Hallie, she's get spit on by her sister, yet Hallie gets grounded?

    • @frankG335
      @frankG335 Před 11 měsíci +284

      There is often one child singled out as the "bad one" by the parents or parent.
      An abusive parent usually chooses one child to vent their rage, insecurity, and frustrations on that one kid.

    • @berriexcream
      @berriexcream Před 11 měsíci +39

      @@frankG335yep I was the target

    • @lizzy6555
      @lizzy6555 Před 11 měsíci +149

      Yes..
      And she has to do the laundry for 8 people?? Her parents are the ones who want 6 kids...

    • @everlasting9292
      @everlasting9292 Před 11 měsíci +80

      Yep! I’m only part way through, but I hope Jo continues to address that Hallie is continuously attacked by every single person in this family. Well, except maybe Josh, cuz he’s so disconnected from everyone.

    • @shosha101390
      @shosha101390 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@berriexcreamme too bro. Me too

  • @d-padqueen1103
    @d-padqueen1103 Před 11 měsíci +6880

    I think there's a lot more going on with Lisa than just the kids, I think she would benefit from checks for depression.

    • @ek8196
      @ek8196 Před 11 měsíci +296

      My thoughts exactly

    • @annedoyle222
      @annedoyle222 Před 11 měsíci +124

      Same here

    • @amberhodge930
      @amberhodge930 Před 11 měsíci +348

      Totally agree and tge way she treats hailey is just wrong

    • @usualbreak7013
      @usualbreak7013 Před 11 měsíci +139

      U guys dont understand that you can feel depressed from yelling kids

    • @diegoscoffeemug
      @diegoscoffeemug Před 11 měsíci +183

      ​@@usualbreak7013postpartum depression 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @roselily_asmr
    @roselily_asmr Před 5 měsíci +820

    I feel so bad for the oldest sister.

    • @RonzaMN
      @RonzaMN Před 4 měsíci +12

      Same

    • @lisasaunders6167
      @lisasaunders6167 Před 23 dny +2

      My mom never hugged neither. I feel so bad for this girl. I was the oldest out of 4 and I had to to do everything also. Parents need to realize this pain stays with you the rest of your life.

    • @evelynbohm
      @evelynbohm Před 22 dny

      How about the son!

    • @VanillaVv
      @VanillaVv Před 5 dny +1

      @@shenekajames5351 ok..?

  • @Zootofanthrax
    @Zootofanthrax Před 5 měsíci +309

    “Nothing works and the kids are badly behaved!”
    What have you tried?
    “We have tried absolutely nothing, but are out of ideas!”

  • @nancyturnbough8609
    @nancyturnbough8609 Před 11 měsíci +3795

    “ The way you treat Hallie is wrong.”
    I ❤ Super nanny for just putting it out there.

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 11 měsíci +40

      Well it’s true!

    • @racheljackson4428
      @racheljackson4428 Před 11 měsíci +23

      i feel like Lisa is acting like Jane Read from Arthur.

    • @ashleyburch2290
      @ashleyburch2290 Před 11 měsíci +57

      Way to go Jo for being the voice for Hailey.

    • @lesleyvivien2876
      @lesleyvivien2876 Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@racheljackson4428 Who is Jane Read and what is Arthur?

    • @frankG335
      @frankG335 Před 11 měsíci +7

      ​@@lesleyvivien2876Who even knows?

  • @rachelemery3897
    @rachelemery3897 Před 11 měsíci +4491

    Why the hell did this mum have so many kids if she can’t cope with them I really feel for Haley xx

    • @carolegreen9938
      @carolegreen9938 Před 11 měsíci +264

      Exactly, did she think that they just raise themselves.

    • @eleanorek.leslie9818
      @eleanorek.leslie9818 Před 11 měsíci +57

      Agree!!

    • @TFTN_official
      @TFTN_official Před 11 měsíci +164

      That mum needed therapy like yesterday!!

    • @jcspider7259
      @jcspider7259 Před 11 měsíci +191

      This episode (Season 4 Episode 7) aired February 13, 2008. Wonder how they're all doing.
      13-year-old Josh is now 28
      12-year-old Halley is now 27
      8-year-old Alexus is now 23
      7-year-old Alisen is now 22
      3-year-old Irelyn is now 18
      2-1/2-year-old Brynn is now 17

    • @meganhall9746
      @meganhall9746 Před 11 měsíci +41

      That's what I always wonder.

  • @marlenepollard7393
    @marlenepollard7393 Před 5 měsíci +449

    Mom was so depressed, no wonder she was out of touch with her kids. You have to love yourself before you can love anyone else.

    • @RogerMiniard
      @RogerMiniard Před 2 měsíci

      CZcams on the face

    • @horizontreasures7701
      @horizontreasures7701 Před měsícem +13

      Actually, in my opinion, through loving others you will learn to love yourself. If she had spent more time dealing with her kids then giving into her sadness this situation might never had happened.

    • @tiaaclark
      @tiaaclark Před měsícem

      @@horizontreasures7701for me i think you need to love yourself before you can show love to anyone else, because with depression you have no motivation

    • @myishenhaines1706
      @myishenhaines1706 Před měsícem +8

      That is so freakin untrue. You can love others and not love yourself. That’s literally part of whAt my therapy addressed. How I give love, compassion, and care to everyone but myself.

    • @CarnivalGhoul
      @CarnivalGhoul Před měsícem +1

      As someone with diagnosed clinical depression that makes it super hard for me to love and care for myself: You are not correct.
      I am more than able to love and care for others, even if I do not extend those same emotions to myself. Your love for others is not inherently tied to your love for yourself.

  • @user-wn2lm7pd4n
    @user-wn2lm7pd4n Před 5 měsíci +302

    the dads honestly amazing. Give him an award or something for actaully listening to supernanny and sticking to the boundaries.

    • @margaret6839
      @margaret6839 Před 2 měsíci +16

      I get the sense he pushed his wife into having this many children. He then left her to deal.

    • @tiaaclark
      @tiaaclark Před měsícem +9

      @@margaret6839defo she seems depressed and overwhelmed with it all

    • @whereammy
      @whereammy Před 15 dny

      @@margaret6839 How did you come to this conclusion? I don't like how you're removing her agency as an adult with no evidence. She chose to have those kids.

    • @shenekajames5351
      @shenekajames5351 Před 9 dny

      its actually, not atcaully.

  • @whotfru899
    @whotfru899 Před 11 měsíci +3414

    Full respect to the father for following through and attempting to set boundaries and lead his kids down the right path 👏👏

    • @kawaii_cat750
      @kawaii_cat750 Před 9 měsíci +19

      Btw supernanny doesn't have any kids and does the same exact thing for every child and it doesn't always work

    • @deleted_account_0530
      @deleted_account_0530 Před 9 měsíci +81

      @@kawaii_cat750 What does that even have to do with anything? Most people probably already know anyway, and everyone knows that not all methods work.

    • @kawaii_cat750
      @kawaii_cat750 Před 9 měsíci +8

      @deleted_account_0530 sorry I'm just random I have adhd

    • @KaylaaaRenee
      @KaylaaaRenee Před 8 měsíci +68

      @@kawaii_cat750it’s not that her methods don’t work it’s that the parents after the show always choose to go back to their normal ways

    • @marygaydick4611
      @marygaydick4611 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Positive message, great support and guidance to Mom Lisa. Love the lemon idea.

  • @Hazelcake
    @Hazelcake Před 11 měsíci +3106

    jo treating lisa like one of the kids and taking her by the wrist is actual comedy gold wow

    • @88.vv1
      @88.vv1 Před 11 měsíci +32

      😂😂😂 ikr

    • @thathobbitlife
      @thathobbitlife Před 9 měsíci +107

      Maybe, but she friggin NEEDS it. Makes ya wonder.

    • @AstroidWanderer
      @AstroidWanderer Před 8 měsíci +29

      Literally dragged her

    • @susanneary4165
      @susanneary4165 Před 8 měsíci +58

      Well if that was the only way to get her to listen then it was the right thing to do.

    • @susanneary4165
      @susanneary4165 Před 8 měsíci +26

      @@AstroidWanderer she needed that

  • @KaraLin_Gacha
    @KaraLin_Gacha Před 2 měsíci +116

    The dad was so chill. I love how he was willing to change and listen to Jo.

  • @pookithesinger7823
    @pookithesinger7823 Před 3 měsíci +118

    Hailey - "She spit on me!"
    Lisa - "Shut up Meg"

  • @louiseedwards29
    @louiseedwards29 Před 11 měsíci +1957

    This mother was cold and emotionless. Poor Halley. Her mum couldn't even say she loved her.

    • @champigranja1179
      @champigranja1179 Před 11 měsíci +109

      It's sad but I don't think it's her fault. She just needs therapy

    • @SilverStormzAndGoldenRain
      @SilverStormzAndGoldenRain Před 11 měsíci +94

      It's extremely unfortunate for the kids, but the mother clearly didn't know what she was getting herself into so she's overwhelmed.

    • @dananewman6608
      @dananewman6608 Před 11 měsíci +103

      This is what depression looks like - numb to the world

    • @jennifera4350
      @jennifera4350 Před 11 měsíci +62

      I wish Jo had asked her how she was raised. I suspect that she felt she'd have the family she never did growing up. Then was depressed when she realized it was more of the same failure, criticism, and fighting. I hope she was able to change and got some counseling and help. Halley deserves better and so do they all.

    • @PbAndHoney777
      @PbAndHoney777 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@champigranja1179
      She needs to stop making babies!

  • @sfotos7410
    @sfotos7410 Před 11 měsíci +1853

    'When Joe made mum hug me, it made me feel like I have my family back'
    It made me cry, this girl is so sweet and she deserves all the hugs and kisses from her mum she could get, not only her but her brother and other sisters too

    • @everlasting9292
      @everlasting9292 Před 11 měsíci +64

      I can’t imagine not hugging my kids. I mean I don’t have any yet, but I’m the future. I hug my kitties, though! I always wanna hug my mom when I need support. I always need hugs from my Memaw when I see her! And I love getting hugs from my students (with consent, of course!) Hugs are so important to humans, we’re social creatures and we need that physical comfort!

    • @irenemchugh7023
      @irenemchugh7023 Před 11 měsíci +24

      All of that and more. I am speechless as usual after watching supernanny ❤❤❤

    • @avo.avocado
      @avo.avocado Před 10 měsíci +21

      @@everlasting9292I didn’t have much physical contact with my parents and now it feels awkward when we do, and I think because of that I also dont like hugs. So physical contact is really important

    • @trishnjoshkeeton9416
      @trishnjoshkeeton9416 Před 10 měsíci +16

      Lisa not once say I love to any kids. She must be fulling depressed or something cause poor dad poor josh poor poor Hailey 😢 this really sad hopefully their lives really does turn around for all their benefits

    • @emerald7071
      @emerald7071 Před 10 měsíci +1

      exactly

  • @Feerae8791
    @Feerae8791 Před 4 měsíci +131

    When Haley said she cant remember the last time her mum hugged her broke my heart💔 how detached mum was from her kids was so sad! The dad stepped up good, you could see he loved his kids, lisa well she was either depressed or just doesnt know how to show love, maybe comes from her own childhood? so happy to see the kids all so happy now❤

  • @that0neturk
    @that0neturk Před 2 měsíci +65

    The dad is the only parent who understood that he needed to grow up and actually disciplined his children

    • @columbannon9134
      @columbannon9134 Před 21 dnem

      This only happen when Jo and the camera's were in the house. Normal no way

  • @IconicMedusa
    @IconicMedusa Před 11 měsíci +4797

    The mum: what did you want me to do? Jump in the pool-
    Jo: yeah
    The mum: -and grab her out?
    Jo: yeah
    Solid gold 💀

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 11 měsíci +69

      YES 😂

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 11 měsíci +86

      That’s what I’d do

    • @kerriethompson2073
      @kerriethompson2073 Před 11 měsíci +98

      That’s what my mom would have done.

    • @luciasaunders9736
      @luciasaunders9736 Před 11 měsíci +185

      I don't understand why people have 6 kids and then don't know how to raise them properly? What do they think when they have been making them??? That kids will raise themselves?

    • @connycatlady7429
      @connycatlady7429 Před 11 měsíci +29

      By making ? Nothing of course. Afterwards ? Well, they raise themselfs. It seems like that.

  • @hoor.a7242
    @hoor.a7242 Před 11 měsíci +1493

    “Thats what every mother does lisa” GOLD AND ICONIC

  • @reginafromrio
    @reginafromrio Před 2 měsíci +59

    The dad has his priorities straight! That's refreshing :)

  • @gracemason7588
    @gracemason7588 Před měsícem +47

    Lisa seems to have severe depression, I would say she needs to address that asap.

    • @divinelytayler
      @divinelytayler Před 25 dny +5

      Was thinking the same. She shows all the signs and i really wanna know what happened to this family!

  • @cassiescreations4694
    @cassiescreations4694 Před 6 měsíci +680

    People stop letting your youngest kids get away with stuff you wouldn’t let them do in public and stop using your eldest kids as Cinderella. You’re the adult, you’re the parent, you’re responsible for the way your kids act and react in situations. Even if you’re depressed you need to show/teach your kids patience, love, responsibility, and respect

  • @oreofunky103
    @oreofunky103 Před 11 měsíci +1675

    This was sooo difficult to watch. The mom is so shut down, she was barely engaged with the process. So sad!! I think Dad really did try to engage with the process and institute Jo's policies. I hope all the children have the space to grow and heal.

    • @jcspider7259
      @jcspider7259 Před 11 měsíci +71

      This episode (Season 4 Episode 7) aired February 13, 2008. Wonder how they're all doing.
      13-year-old Josh is now 28
      12-year-old Halley is now 27
      8-year-old Alexus is now 23
      7-year-old Alisen is now 22
      3-year-old Irelyn is now 18
      2-1/2-year-old Brynn is now 17

    • @N3isfree
      @N3isfree Před 11 měsíci +5

      💯

    • @xboxgamergirl6797
      @xboxgamergirl6797 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@jcspider7259that’s wrong it aired in 2007, irelynn is 20 bren is 18

    • @janzitterkopf1630
      @janzitterkopf1630 Před 9 měsíci +4

      So so sad!😢

    • @NavigatorMother
      @NavigatorMother Před 8 měsíci +7

      Mum is medicated off her head with benzos.

  • @Isabel_frr
    @Isabel_frr Před měsícem +10

    poor josh he chill asf

    • @natxli3
      @natxli3 Před měsícem +3

      Fr hes so sick of them😭

  • @Itz_meR3S3
    @Itz_meR3S3 Před měsícem +33

    The food they eat looks nasty af 💀
    Plus Steve’s got that infinite sunburn 💀

  • @Ali-nikki
    @Ali-nikki Před 8 měsíci +1033

    The fact that Hallie gasped in excitement when her mum said they were gonna go bowling together really means how desperate she wanted to hang out with her mum🥺

    • @spicyy_gtag
      @spicyy_gtag Před 5 měsíci +4

      240 likes with no comments let me fix that

    • @Ali-nikki
      @Ali-nikki Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@spicyy_gtag omg hi and thx!

    • @Daisymaderacosio
      @Daisymaderacosio Před 5 měsíci +7

      Exactly!!!

    • @Kat-ls8ot
      @Kat-ls8ot Před 3 měsíci +6

      Or get away from her siblings 😭

    • @Ali-nikki
      @Ali-nikki Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@Kat-ls8ot no because their literally the favourite😭😭

  • @MichaEGreen2401
    @MichaEGreen2401 Před 11 měsíci +1567

    Poor Halley is the scapegoat in this household. Lisa and Alexus both walk all over her and it's sad to watch.

    • @katharinlannon4061
      @katharinlannon4061 Před 11 měsíci +33

      This is what I always say. It seems as soon as you get more than two kids chaos reigns. The parents are stressed, the kids are feral its ridiculous in my opinion 🫣😵‍💫

    • @dominewimbury2039
      @dominewimbury2039 Před 11 měsíci +75

      ​@@Name12492poor Lisa?! Nah! She and her husband CHOSE to have six children. The kids didn't choose to be born!

    • @your_local_questerian
      @your_local_questerian Před 11 měsíci +19

      ​@@dominewimbury2039They made their bed, now they get to sleep in it.

    • @sarh23
      @sarh23 Před 11 měsíci +11

      ​@@dominewimbury2039I really like that sentiment. My mum would often say things to me that implied the opposite, like how she wished I was never born, and that without her I wouldn't be alive so I should do as she says.
      Turns out I have ADHD, which explains why no matter how hard I tried I kept being "naughty" like not sitting still or day dreaming when I was meant to be doing homework...

    • @janathompson5948
      @janathompson5948 Před 10 měsíci +7

      That's what she gets for having six kids

  • @Coolman-oo2kj
    @Coolman-oo2kj Před 2 měsíci +35

    In every single episode it's not the kids that are bad it's the parents that aren't doing their job.

  • @grwm_mollz
    @grwm_mollz Před měsícem +22

    “ I don’t remember the last time my mum hugged me”That’s ACTUALLY SOOOOO sad for the daughter and no daughter should ever every have to say that She must if felt disconnected and dis loved

  • @louises222
    @louises222 Před 8 měsíci +972

    The fact the mom can’t even talk about what she’s doing to her daughter just says it all 😮

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 7 měsíci +4

      😢😢

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 7 měsíci +37

      She’s going to have messed that kid up

    • @phoebegarrett3055
      @phoebegarrett3055 Před 5 měsíci +5

      My mom doesn't do it either

    • @NDJunction
      @NDJunction Před 5 měsíci +14

      i think she has SEVERE anxiety. not to "diagnose" but i feel like i was recognizing either trauma's or...SOMETHING, idk of course, but sis is goin through something o_o

    • @Officially_Vera
      @Officially_Vera Před 4 měsíci +9

      Then she will wonder why her oldest daughter goes no contact

  • @invisibleinkcinematic6900
    @invisibleinkcinematic6900 Před 11 měsíci +1857

    I felt so bad for the father, he is literally the only one trying to get things fixed.

    • @The27media
      @The27media Před 11 měsíci +69

      Seriously the mom is the one that’s trying to not do anything

    • @jonathanryan549
      @jonathanryan549 Před 11 měsíci +25

      9:19 the way she laughs is just incredibly funny

    • @annwood6812
      @annwood6812 Před 11 měsíci +42

      He doesn't bear the burden of the child care.

    • @Picco2008
      @Picco2008 Před 11 měsíci +36

      He is the one who is not present the whole Day!!!!!

    • @The27media
      @The27media Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Picco2008 she not he

  • @-_-Rxdya-_-
    @-_-Rxdya-_- Před měsícem +31

    20:58 seeing the dad trying to help and genuinely working to better his relationship with his kids is the best thing ive seen oh my god. He better wear that best dad shirt proudly

  • @stacylew2457
    @stacylew2457 Před 4 měsíci +80

    I can’t with the mom’s bangs

    • @Avocados_Planet_0
      @Avocados_Planet_0 Před 3 měsíci +7

      the mum literally looks just
      like alexsis

    • @kailamaree4402
      @kailamaree4402 Před 26 dny

      omg yes i kept staring at them the whole episode. she needs to never go to that stylist again 😂

  • @mandadenzer4648
    @mandadenzer4648 Před 11 měsíci +613

    Im not surprised her kids don't want to hug her. They haven't been hugged in years, and now she's demanding them to because Supernanny said so, not because she wants to. Heartbreaking.

    • @leonietoohey5031
      @leonietoohey5031 Před 7 měsíci +16

      Why have them by choice if so hard.

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 7 měsíci +4

      😢😢😢😢

    • @mariafromsydney
      @mariafromsydney Před 7 měsíci +18

      Some people think everything in life is easy, not so easy when u choose to have 6 kids is it !!??🧐

    • @layyy.13
      @layyy.13 Před 6 měsíci +3

      FR

    • @layyy.13
      @layyy.13 Před 6 měsíci +18

      @@mariafromsydneyliterally. She chose that life.. she didn’t have to have 6 kids… but she did

  • @slaphappymcgee5434
    @slaphappymcgee5434 Před 10 měsíci +597

    I love how she not only teaches the kids but she teaches the parents to teach the kids! great job super nanny! great parenting and patience!!

    • @joyceadair3003
      @joyceadair3003 Před 7 měsíci +19

      It’s the parents that need the help in every show. That’s what’s causing the breakdown of the family. Lack of parental guidance.

  • @Monokuma-pb5rz
    @Monokuma-pb5rz Před 2 měsíci +35

    The dad was the best parent there.

  • @chickens.r_amazinnnn
    @chickens.r_amazinnnn Před 3 měsíci +27

    Everytime my family sneezes we yell “bless you!“ from rooms away

    • @patriciabutler4427
      @patriciabutler4427 Před 2 měsíci +5

      I do that at the store when I hear someone sneeze, 😅

  • @kemi3677
    @kemi3677 Před 11 měsíci +1626

    The way she blamed jo for how disgusting her 2 year old behaves its outrageous

    • @feraltaco4783
      @feraltaco4783 Před 9 měsíci +128

      Yeah, like your kid suddenly became terrible when Jo showed up.

    • @kellybarnes6567
      @kellybarnes6567 Před 8 měsíci +40

      Just having and supporting kids is not complete parental support. Try "raising your children" guidance 24/7 with everything and everyone of them as they are expected by age. Just wishing and only "talking" is not complete in raising. and guiding as needed to each child 24/7.

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 Před 8 měsíci +55

      Seriously. The kid was behaving the same way in the video they submitted.

    • @susanneary4165
      @susanneary4165 Před 8 měsíci +19

      That's what's called passing the buck

    • @HopefulInterventions
      @HopefulInterventions Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@TiffanyAllen1784Exactly!

  • @sunflower2594
    @sunflower2594 Před 11 měsíci +884

    Mom can't connect with Halley because she's transferred both her responsibilities and her anger at all the children to Halley. As the oldest girl, I got blamed for everything. I feel for Hayley. The oldest girl is not the slave of all, nor should she be the scapegoat for every problem. I've seen this in my professional career so many times--the oldest daughter is expected to fix everything (hero) and gets blamed for everything (scapegoat.)

  • @Tina-lg8py
    @Tina-lg8py Před měsícem +12

    "I cannot remember the last time that my mother hugged me". That broke my ❤️

    • @Elda92757
      @Elda92757 Před 21 dnem

      Bro does not know how to spell heart

  • @nataliemezin8738
    @nataliemezin8738 Před 5 měsíci +43

    Full respect for josh. He so good and I love how he puts up with his sisters being the only boy.

  • @MrBinkie2010
    @MrBinkie2010 Před 6 měsíci +810

    I see in her eyes that mom is suffering from mental issues. And 6 children are suffering and will be damaged for life. 😢

    • @MrBinkie2010
      @MrBinkie2010 Před 6 měsíci +86

      I grew up with an unloving mom who couldn’t cope. It’s a life long struggle to get to grips with that trauma.

    • @Justicia007
      @Justicia007 Před 5 měsíci +38

      Saddest episode...I lavished love on my son, and would have loved to raise more kids. I don't understand this moms attitude but seems she needs help.

    • @heyfella5217
      @heyfella5217 Před 4 měsíci +18

      It makes me wonder if I should have kids or not.. its one of my biggest motivations to keep going in life right now, but I struggle with CPTSD. I'm scared of accidentally passing my trauma on.

    • @hannahp.fletcher9969
      @hannahp.fletcher9969 Před 4 měsíci

      If you're not sure. DONT.
      Kids arent just for 18 years. It's 24/7 for the rest of your life. Yes that sounds dramatic but its true. @@heyfella5217

    • @Gerald-le2yx
      @Gerald-le2yx Před 4 měsíci +22

      Materially they lack nothing but emotionally they are poor

  • @oliviahafnermunichteaching957
    @oliviahafnermunichteaching957 Před 11 měsíci +546

    The sentence: 'When Jo made mum hug me..." broke my heart because she said it knowing her mum wouldn't have hugged her on her own accord.😢

    • @emmavrijburg6676
      @emmavrijburg6676 Před 9 měsíci +37

      i noticed it too. very sad and 20 years later parents like that ask themselves "why dont they call anymore"

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 8 měsíci +5

      They’re estranged I believe now :( very very sad

    • @kw5839
      @kw5839 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@hannahscott6604 is it any wonder?

    • @yellowdotje6278
      @yellowdotje6278 Před 15 dny

      And you saw in the girl's eyes that she didn't trust this, it couldn't be real.

  • @jinsfanboy1969
    @jinsfanboy1969 Před 3 měsíci +23

    Love Joe just snatching the baby from her arms for timeout lol 😂

  • @TOTALLYNOTNYNY
    @TOTALLYNOTNYNY Před 3 měsíci +20

    The fact that the dad has the worlds best dad shirt is crazy

  • @LuvlyMaddie
    @LuvlyMaddie Před 8 měsíci +283

    Props to the dad for actually listening to Jo and not giving up! 👏

  • @Stempelkind
    @Stempelkind Před 8 měsíci +576

    The mum is straight up abusing her oldest daughter (the other ones she seems to "just" be negelecting), but the parentification with Hayllie is real! She is also the scapegoat for everything and she seems to be so starved for love. Poor girl...

  • @3klamarie
    @3klamarie Před 3 měsíci +15

    If someone spat in my house…… they’d be kicked out of it that’s so disrespectful and disgusting. You are raising future adults. This behaviour can get them into real legal trouble down the road.

  • @_C4t_01
    @_C4t_01 Před 4 měsíci +13

    "I don't remember the last time my mom hugged me"
    Made me shed some tears

  • @Nooom91
    @Nooom91 Před 9 měsíci +459

    This made me feel so sad. My mom had severe depression during all my teen years, and she was exactly like this. Numb and cold, if not outright unhinged and yelling at us. She'd hide in her office as well. I can't remember her ever hugging me, so I can relate to this young girl so very much.

  • @peekaboocockatiel6514
    @peekaboocockatiel6514 Před 11 měsíci +541

    I wish this family had double or triple time with Jo. They could have made parts 2 and 3 with this family. Mom needs it desperately.

    • @jessicalynn6576
      @jessicalynn6576 Před 11 měsíci +31

      Omg yes that would have been great!! I've watched every single episode and this one by far is the best!! Even got Jo swearing and that don't happen

    • @ColinCropley
      @ColinCropley Před 11 měsíci +13

      maybe revisited

    • @PrincessPoohs
      @PrincessPoohs Před 10 měsíci +34

      Yeah this problem with mom was much much bigger than one episode could possibly tackle.

    • @DawnKellyPhotography
      @DawnKellyPhotography Před 6 měsíci +10

      Mom needs mental help.

    • @megansmith3764
      @megansmith3764 Před 2 měsíci +2

      By the end, the family was doing great. Mom was connecting with the kids, stepped up as their mom and all the kids seemed happier.

  • @elainelim6232
    @elainelim6232 Před měsícem +13

    I'm just going to point out the mom's bangs. Like, what?

  • @tibetankidsread3741
    @tibetankidsread3741 Před 2 měsíci +10

    the fact that the dad has the shirt with ' THE WORLD'S BEST DAD' is unbelievable

    • @Roadto1k992
      @Roadto1k992 Před 2 měsíci

      He is literally the worst dad he needs to learn how to discipline your children properly.

    • @Roadto1k992
      @Roadto1k992 Před 2 měsíci

      I agree with this

  • @ButterToasty9514
    @ButterToasty9514 Před 10 měsíci +377

    I can’t believe that the mom grounded the girl from the pool forever that’s ridiculous that mom is so emotionally abusive

    • @DawnKellyPhotography
      @DawnKellyPhotography Před 6 měsíci +29

      Yes! She is abusive!

    • @yikesgina
      @yikesgina Před 4 měsíci

      Abusive but ain’t no way that mom’s gonna have the willpower to keep her out forever. 🙄

  • @CableAnna
    @CableAnna Před 9 měsíci +244

    The fact that the mom labels her children like “this one is the troublemaker” then the two year old that “never does this” and she wasn’t ready to set boundaries with her but setting boundaries with the troublemaker was fine. That is so sad and wrong. No wonder if the kids are doing whatever since there are double standards and each of them know what they can get away with

  • @natharn4974
    @natharn4974 Před 2 měsíci +12

    So sad. Having an emotionally unavailable and treacherous mother is devastating

  • @claire_7681
    @claire_7681 Před 3 měsíci +11

    It’s devastating that Jo has to keep trying to teach Lisa how to feel and show any love towards her children

  • @wmdkitty
    @wmdkitty Před 11 měsíci +498

    These kids only behave so badly because the parents ALLOW it and don't impose consequences.

    • @dianerathgeber1526
      @dianerathgeber1526 Před 11 měsíci +13

      Like sooooooo many other young parents nowadays. Lots of absent parents out there.

    • @estelleschneider9033
      @estelleschneider9033 Před 11 měsíci +9

      No Rules..then consequences for disobeying obstinace..disrespect

    • @dianerathgeber1526
      @dianerathgeber1526 Před 10 měsíci +5

      EXACTLY RIGHT. They allow it and that only encourages their awful behavior. Disgusting behavior and there’s nothing good to say about this family

    • @dianerathgeber1526
      @dianerathgeber1526 Před 10 měsíci +3

      6 kids that they don’t want. Wow

    • @dianerathgeber1526
      @dianerathgeber1526 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Funny when Jo was yelling at Mom and cameramen are all running in the background. Cute.

  • @samanthadishington5713
    @samanthadishington5713 Před 11 měsíci +370

    Completely broke my heart to hear that she can't remember the last time her Mum hugged her 💔 😢

  • @Dxisy_Fields
    @Dxisy_Fields Před 3 měsíci +15

    "Don't fight for the position you already have, instead, just claim it"
    Great quote, honestly, 10/10
    30:31

  • @THE_ONLY_BANANA_ANNA
    @THE_ONLY_BANANA_ANNA Před měsícem +8

    at first I thought the dad should’ve taken that shirt off but he really earned the title worlds. Best dad after the end.

  • @amberrobinson3165
    @amberrobinson3165 Před 7 měsíci +258

    There was definitely some sore of mental health issue with mum in this BUT that’s no excuse to just give up on your children. To stop caring for them. Hugging them. Neglecting them. Ridiculous.

  • @Lexie_Loo
    @Lexie_Loo Před 11 měsíci +267

    I love how brutally honest she is with the parents and how much she care sabout every amply relationships

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 Před 10 měsíci

      @Lexie-Lou. Brutality is superfluous . Honesty is quite sufficient.

  • @angelinanobile6212
    @angelinanobile6212 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Someone needs to check Lisa’s pulse. That mother is the most bored looking disinterested mother I’ve ever seen on SupNan.

  • @susanitawest
    @susanitawest Před 5 měsíci +21

    Is it normal to be crying while you watch the whole episode? 😢

  • @oliverdavies4748
    @oliverdavies4748 Před 6 měsíci +166

    Josh is the most chill and down to earth 13 year old ive seen in my jit days

    • @annaschull
      @annaschull Před 4 měsíci +30

      I would call that shut down

    • @bienkies9152
      @bienkies9152 Před 2 měsíci +28

      it's sad, he seemed depressed to me

    • @KF-zs8oq
      @KF-zs8oq Před měsícem +2

      Nobody wouould ever Listen to him so he probably wouldn’t bother

  • @angelataylor4540
    @angelataylor4540 Před 11 měsíci +546

    Josh just wants to find peace and quiet, I think I would too.

    • @Jess-ed7iv
      @Jess-ed7iv Před 11 měsíci +54

      I know… poor kiddo was just looking for an escape in his games and at his friends houses.

    • @francesfehrman741
      @francesfehrman741 Před 11 měsíci +18

      Josh needs to go to neighbors. Get away from this

    • @The27media
      @The27media Před 11 měsíci +3

      Yeah it was all because of the little girl and her mom lisa

    • @ILikeNarrowOne_Teddybears_404
      @ILikeNarrowOne_Teddybears_404 Před 11 měsíci

      @@The27mediayou mean Alexous /Alexus

    • @The27media
      @The27media Před 11 měsíci

      @@ILikeNarrowOne_Teddybears_404 No! I did not mean that I was trying to say lisa was the one who made this happen fighting with Supernanny for discipline her two year old

  • @shannonchloe8587
    @shannonchloe8587 Před měsícem +7

    The mother is narcissistic and justifies her treating her older daughter differently which is seriously toxic behavior.
    She is ruining her relationship with her daughter.

  • @victimvan974
    @victimvan974 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Wow Jo is not playing games here. I respect that. She means business.

  • @karenhouser4123
    @karenhouser4123 Před 11 měsíci +442

    Why do people who have no skills or sense with raising kids, keep having them?? These parents that have kids get out of control, and show no respect, is the fault of the parents.

    • @Jess-ed7iv
      @Jess-ed7iv Před 11 měsíci +58

      I agree!! If you cannot mentally and emotionally be present for each child, and make time for them, you should not continue to have children!!

    • @gwenpicchi5719
      @gwenpicchi5719 Před 11 měsíci +26

      ​@Jess-ed7iv I have nothing personal against kids, but not every couple needs to have kids and if they do they could at least leave it at one kid. They can obviously keep and love both if they have twins but stop after that.

    • @brendabrown4025
      @brendabrown4025 Před 11 měsíci

      😂

    • @Emma-dt5tg
      @Emma-dt5tg Před 11 měsíci +28

      6 kids and no job and she didn’t think she should maybe look into parenting techniques 😂

    • @caelyclifford6133
      @caelyclifford6133 Před 11 měsíci +16

      Those are the parents who don't believe in birth control

  • @georgienaarna
    @georgienaarna Před 11 měsíci +181

    It's so sad to see even when the mum is telling hayley they're going bowling, there's 0 emotion, she doesn't even smile but hayley is visibly excited :(

  • @Minciit
    @Minciit Před 2 měsíci +6

    How can hugging your own child be hard? I can't even imagine going on about the day without having hugs and little cuddles.

  • @elowyn9664
    @elowyn9664 Před 5 měsíci +8

    So many mums like that... Unable to tear down the walls between themself and the child and show emotions.

  • @marckid93
    @marckid93 Před 11 měsíci +558

    Josh seems like he’s the nicest kid ever.

    • @aimeebaldwin5600
      @aimeebaldwin5600 Před 10 měsíci +55

      He just stays away from everyone.

    • @thefrenchmarxist8497
      @thefrenchmarxist8497 Před 10 měsíci +33

      ​@@aimeebaldwin5600I mean he just chills he hasn't been really fighting or causing any problems

    • @RUBBERDUCKSSSSS
      @RUBBERDUCKSSSSS Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@thefrenchmarxist8497I respect that

    • @mflow6485
      @mflow6485 Před 9 měsíci +70

      I feel sorry for him and Haley the most. He has spent his whole childhood in this chaos, quietly raising himself.

    • @ndrsmith3047
      @ndrsmith3047 Před 8 měsíci +10

      Josh seems like he's the nicest kid

  • @BitterFlower
    @BitterFlower Před 7 měsíci +237

    As the Oldest Girl among my siblings, I feel so much for Halley. I was expected to be an adult starting when I was 12. I was expected to help out more than my older brother, too. He was responsible for his own messes for sure, but I had to look after everyone else's in addition to mine.

    • @vanillasky7119
      @vanillasky7119 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Same.

    • @masonlovesroblox
      @masonlovesroblox Před 2 měsíci +1

      I would have at the point just say no. If you clean up after everybody, then they will be spoiled and will never move out of the house and do things for themselves.

  • @shanteplays6255
    @shanteplays6255 Před 5 měsíci +10

    “The worlds greatest dad” shirt is wild

  • @N3RD12
    @N3RD12 Před 5 měsíci +17

    The shirt world greatest dad is crazy tho💀💀

  • @ganiaj87
    @ganiaj87 Před 11 měsíci +1201

    Mom: I'm done talking about that right now...
    Jo: ....well I'm not.
    LOOOOOVE IT.

    • @alexiagiannopoulos5018
      @alexiagiannopoulos5018 Před 11 měsíci +38

      Jo is awesome honestly.

    • @ganiaj87
      @ganiaj87 Před 11 měsíci +16

      @@alexiagiannopoulos5018 yup she really is the best.

    • @ashleyburch2290
      @ashleyburch2290 Před 11 měsíci +25

      Really like it that Jo doesn’t back out and even got to the point of telling the mother off.

    • @atrobertson1977
      @atrobertson1977 Před 11 měsíci +5

      BEST....PART....EVER!!❤❤❤❤

    • @vijant1395
      @vijant1395 Před 11 měsíci +6

      That is just bad though

  • @lisaj3915
    @lisaj3915 Před 9 měsíci +195

    When you're 12 years old and cant remember when last your mom hugged you. Geeezzzz. Heart breaking. I'm 42 and mom still hugs me. Very important.

    • @Asdfghb77vbbbbbvbbbbb
      @Asdfghb77vbbbbbvbbbbb Před 8 měsíci +10

      Im 34 and she never hugged me ..or even showed that she loves me ..i took her out of my life.

    • @annadrew4
      @annadrew4 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@Asdfghb77vbbbbbvbbbbb I am in my mid 20s and I also can't remember when mum hugged me. Anyway, I would not like it if she will do it. It will feel forced and untruly.

    • @riemiy-ut5ow
      @riemiy-ut5ow Před 4 měsíci +1

      I don’t remember too and am 47. I slowly learned how to love, from people who are not my family. I was not able to form my family. I didn’t think I can anyway.

    • @cindearbuckle6074
      @cindearbuckle6074 Před 4 měsíci

      Glad to see the older two kids are getting some real time with their parents

    • @GrimmDemon
      @GrimmDemon Před 4 měsíci

      I can relate to Haley. I'm 21 and I don't remember the last time my dad hugged me. I have always felt that I'm his scapegoat for his stress and anger and he lets it out on me by "blowing up" at me (aka yelling, blaming me, etc.).

  • @Robloxaddict514
    @Robloxaddict514 Před 25 dny +3

    The way her face lit up i feel so bad for Halley🫶🏼 😭

  • @kikilriki
    @kikilriki Před 2 měsíci +4

    The mom not being comfortable hugging her own daughter but yes to birthing 6 of them is insane

  • @vxlenciix
    @vxlenciix Před 9 měsíci +114

    Seeing Jo swear at the mother after she tried to blame her for the two-year-old's behaviour, made the chaos of this worth watching. ABSOLUTE GOLD and so, so necessary.

  • @patriciasampson5268
    @patriciasampson5268 Před 11 měsíci +272

    This mother looks like she is suffering with depression, she needs some help. Something else going on there. I hope she finds her strength.

    • @xboxgamergirl6797
      @xboxgamergirl6797 Před 11 měsíci +30

      Agreed. It’s like she hates these kids, besides the youngest. Makes you wonder what they went through off camera and as they grew up,because if she was fine w being like this while recorded- I cant imagine the reality

    • @PrincessPoohs
      @PrincessPoohs Před 10 měsíci +14

      It was extremely worrying.

    • @user-vg6pj2my2n
      @user-vg6pj2my2n Před 10 měsíci +23

      Mom and the two eldest kids all look very depressed.

    • @xboxgamergirl6797
      @xboxgamergirl6797 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@user-vg6pj2my2n I would be too with 6 kids that I act like I didn’t want.

    • @xboxgamergirl6797
      @xboxgamergirl6797 Před 10 měsíci

      @@user-vg6pj2my2n the older 2 just seem like they want alone time, the younger 4 are animals with no home training 😂

  • @monar9790
    @monar9790 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Well;of course it's easier to pick one of the kids; lable her with troublemaker and blame all that your problems on her; to actually rise up and being that responsible adult you need to be...

  • @RichardBriggs89
    @RichardBriggs89 Před 3 měsíci +5

    "What do you want me to do, jump in and..." 'YEAH" hahaha yes JO

  • @Jess-ed7iv
    @Jess-ed7iv Před 11 měsíci +238

    I feel for Halley. Lisa couldn’t control Alexus, but Halley would listen; so when they would get into an altercation Lisa would punish Halley for the both of them. Poor girl. Plus the chores to “keep her busy” while Alexus just antagonized her and mom didn’t intervene. I feel for mom, but at the end of the day she is the mom and needs step up.

    • @leslienewton2773
      @leslienewton2773 Před 9 měsíci +7

      Alexis is going to need big help. How come we didn't see more of her?

  • @DaphneNey
    @DaphneNey Před 11 měsíci +299

    I feel so bad for Hallie and Josh,
    Josh keeps his head down and stays out of it so that no anger from anyone is directed at him.
    Hallie gets in trouble for things her sister has done and is constantly running and protecting herself.

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 8 měsíci +28

      Josh is the invisible child . Halley is the scapegoat. Alexis is the golden child

    • @hannahscott6604
      @hannahscott6604 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Brynley and Alexis are the “golden children”

    • @DaphneNey
      @DaphneNey Před 8 měsíci

      I agree

  • @fruscai
    @fruscai Před měsícem +3

    The most amazing aspect of this show is seeing how clear it is how EVERYONE in the family needs parenting

  • @tessmonro7102
    @tessmonro7102 Před 11 měsíci +480

    Makes you wonder what the mum's life was like when she was Haley's age.

    • @kathaqua
      @kathaqua Před 11 měsíci +113

      I agree. She seems to be dealing with some kind of trauma, or rather not dealing with it. I hope she can get some therapy, because something is not right here.

    • @jasmine3250
      @jasmine3250 Před 11 měsíci +39

      ​@kathaqua this was my thought exactly. I'm definitely sensing some trauma, and maybe even envy of Haley. So sad..

    • @estelleschneider9033
      @estelleschneider9033 Před 11 měsíci +12

      Yes..baggage from parents treatment..

    • @xboxgamergirl6797
      @xboxgamergirl6797 Před 11 měsíci +11

      @@jasmine3250she reeks of jealousy. Maybe because halley is only 12 and way prettier than her

    • @sadie8834
      @sadie8834 Před 9 měsíci

      @xboxgamergirl6797 All her daughters look exactly like her.

  • @cindyoconnell2471
    @cindyoconnell2471 Před 11 měsíci +188

    I can’t believe that parents would ever allow their kids to spit at each other, have food fights and stand on the table! That is just beyond crazy! You can’t allow that behavior even one time!

  • @RonaTheMountainLion
    @RonaTheMountainLion Před 3 měsíci +4

    "All kids deserve parents, not all parents deserve kids."

  • @milo_kilo3606
    @milo_kilo3606 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I see myself in Hailey and it hurts genuinely. My stepmom takes her frustrations out on me because my other siblings are more or less impossible to control. Makes me want to cry for her.

  • @cyndysmith4756
    @cyndysmith4756 Před 11 měsíci +138

    She told Hailey she wouldn’t yell at her but she turned around and said she would just tell her when she does wrong. It’s like that’s all she acts like is Hailey only does wrong. She can come to her because she’s her mom but she didn’t say I care about you and love you.

    • @shosha101390
      @shosha101390 Před 11 měsíci +17

      Yeah honestly that part upset me.

    • @angelafelton3529
      @angelafelton3529 Před 10 měsíci +11

      Upset me too. Maybe telling she's great occasionally would do so much for Hayley