STOP sawing at your workbench. There's a better way!

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  • The better, safer way to saw at a bench.
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    0:00 Intro
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    3:50 The Saw Bench
    4:36 Mortise
    5:46 Outro
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  • @RexKrueger
    @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +7

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  • @raulkaap
    @raulkaap Před 8 měsíci +19

    Oh, I remember when I first caught a premiere. When I saw Rex cross cutting a board in the vise, I told him that seeing it hurts my neck. He did apologise. And now, the solution.

  • @fred5480
    @fred5480 Před 8 měsíci +23

    Watching this, I realize that I use every low horizontal surface in the shop as a sawbench every day. Boxes, step stools, painting platforms, even my regular sitting stool (which has an attachment for sawing and painting). I needed this last night when I ripped a 24" piece of 1/4" thick pine (to fix a drawer front; don't ask). For hybrid woodworkers like me, this will also work great for a circular saw or jigsaw. I NEED those plans, Rex!

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +6

      And you shall have those plans....maybe today.

    • @rawr2u190
      @rawr2u190 Před 8 měsíci

      I'm using a pair of Ikea stools as a saw bench atm, while I'm building my workbench.

    • @stainlesssteellemming3885
      @stainlesssteellemming3885 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@rawr2u190 My "fold away" saw bench is two home-depot 5 gallon buckets and a piece of plywood to sit on top

  • @xiaohu22
    @xiaohu22 Před 8 měsíci +33

    Rex, your lightweight traveler's bench was one of my very first woodworking projects. It is no longer my main work surface but it still gets used all the time as a saw bench in my shop. Keep up the greay content and thanks for helping to get me into the craft!

    • @Lamefoureyes
      @Lamefoureyes Před 8 měsíci +3

      That's a ringing endorsement! I'm thinking of making one and having it in the apartment just to give me some work surface that doubles as seating

    • @xiaohu22
      @xiaohu22 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@Lamefoureyes mine also doubles as seating when we have guests!

    • @borcz100
      @borcz100 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I am using mine to build the minimum timber work bench right now - I have about 3 or 4 days left on the build

    • @morte100
      @morte100 Před 8 měsíci

      My travelers bench is where the peanut gallery sits in my shop (when it’s not in use, of course).

  • @larrysiders1
    @larrysiders1 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I "inherited" a Saw Bench from an old Neighborhood Craftsman...always took it for gtanted that was the best way hand craftsmamen sawed, drilled, and mortised. The workbench was for planing/rabbeting and assembly.

  • @theeddorian
    @theeddorian Před 8 měsíci +1

    I use two horses for breaking down long pieces when cross-cutting them. I lay the piece lengthwise long the horses, arranged end to end, with the cut line between the ends of the horses. That way I don't need to support the off cut, or free end, with a hand reaching across my body. For shorter pieces, I use a bench hook, and a supporting piece of scrap to hold up the far ends of longer pieces. Ripping, I still turn to either my band saw or table saw, and then a hand plane to fine tune the width. I haven't built a saw bench because I can't leave it out in the weather. No floor space in the shop, which needs to be addressed.

  • @destroyerkuroshiokai
    @destroyerkuroshiokai Před 8 měsíci +5

    I approached this differently because my lack of space. I combined a pair of Japanese low saw horses with a 24" by 48" work bench surface. It works like a Roman workbench, but breaks down without tools into pieces that fit into my limited storage space in my shop. As a bonus a small left over section of 2x8 I used to make the saw horses can be laid across the saw horses to make a 13" high stool to access the stuff beyond reach in my shop. Seeing this video I am strongly thinking about cutting a vee notch into one end to add the benefits in the video right along with my plane stops, dogs, etc I already have added to the bench top.
    Thanks for the idea!

  • @eloscuro704
    @eloscuro704 Před 8 měsíci

    I'm going to pick up the plans for one if these. I can see it getting a lot of use. 15 years ago, I made some stools for my small children so they could reach the arcade cabinet I was setting up. They never really used them, but I do. I made them with plywood with a wide center stretcher, and screwed everything in place with drywall screws. Painted them with milk paint and add skateboard grip tape. Absolutely sturdy and I used them every time I need to reach something high. It could probably work as a saw bench, but they aren't really high enough.

  • @alskjflaksjdflakjdf
    @alskjflaksjdflakjdf Před 8 měsíci +8

    Based off Rex's videos I built a low bench and used it for sawing, only to be disappointed to find it hurt my back quite badly. I ended up cutting up the low bench and turning it into a workbench table and am loving using it. I think the difference in my case is that I only own pull saws, and so sawing on a low bench means having to pull against gravity all the time. That, and I generally spend more time planing than sawing. Regardless, thanks for posting the video. Looking forward to next week!

  • @schm4704
    @schm4704 Před 8 měsíci +3

    If you're lacking space like me, a Workmate or similar folding bench in its lower configuration makes a decent saw bench. It's multi function and can be stored flat.

  • @tinkerer4
    @tinkerer4 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I like the idea of sawing on a saw bench, but my body shape isn't conducive to those positions. I could see them being great for some people, but at my weight, that would hurt my knees, back, shoulder, and wrist. I'm working on getting healthier, but that's just the current reality for me (and I suspect a whole lot of other people). In the meantime, I've found a Japanese pull saw alleviates a lot of the issues with cutting off the end of a workbench. You're all about making woodworking accessible, so I think it would be super cool if you did a video with someone who was heavier (and not shy about it) and show alternate ways to do things if physically limited in some way!

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +2

      I hear you. I've been very heavy in the past. I know what it's like.

    • @johnclements6614
      @johnclements6614 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I agree a couple of cuts would be ok but many and my knees would not be working for the next week. But for mortising looks good.

    • @bryan__m
      @bryan__m Před 2 měsíci

      I'm not even all that heavy and looking at his stance on the low bench just looks so uncomfortable for me. Even working in the garden I have to have padding under my knees, and my balance isn't good enough to be able to sit up straight while one leg was up like that.

  • @graysontaylor6673
    @graysontaylor6673 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Have to say sawing on my bench got a lot easier when I switched to a Japanese style pull saw. Really easy to drop your hands and pull down, gets that full engagement without having to get low to saw up. But yeah, never could get comfortable with a push saw at that height.

  • @justpaul899
    @justpaul899 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I feel like this video was made specifically for me! It was so validating to hear Rex explain why I've struggled with cutting bigger pieces all these years. I will definitely be making a saw bench!!

  • @gizanked
    @gizanked Před 8 měsíci +1

    Shannon Rodgers, Vic tesolin, Rob Cosman, Jay bates, even that Rex whatshisface guy. So many people I've seen with saw benches. I made the version in vic's book "the minimalist woodworker" and I really like the saw bent that goes with the bench. It's like a tiny saw horse to support longer boards. Now having a pair of saw benches would do the same thing but this can really save some room.

  • @borjesvensson8661
    @borjesvensson8661 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Forgot the best thing about saw benches. A good place to sit down while carving or to take a break and feel if you really should continue or are tired. Coffey breaks saves fingers!

  • @brettshegogue
    @brettshegogue Před 8 měsíci

    For long rips on the saw bench I like to sit on the board (like you are for the mortising) and use both hands in a up and down motion. Very powerful and easy to control

  • @Clark42EoC
    @Clark42EoC Před 8 měsíci +2

    Lol I do all my cutting with a Japanese saw and always kneel. My thigh muscles are made of steel at this point. Not easy to get used to. I definitely need to build one of these benches though...that's so much better for mortises.

  • @MrDaneBrammage
    @MrDaneBrammage Před 8 měsíci +1

    If you mount your front vice flush with the left end of the bench, then the board can be held horizontal with the offcut sticking out beyond the left end of the bench. You can crosscut straight down instead of at an angle, there's no risk of sawing into the bench, and your left hand is free to catch the offcut without reaching across your body. Using a pull saw in that position, it's easy to saw at any angle from horizontal to nearly vertical, as required.
    The saw bench probably makes a lot more sense with push saws than pull saws. Trying to cut a board at a low work surface using a pull saw is an exercise in frustration as the saw is always trying to lift the board off the bench.

    • @BigHenFor
      @BigHenFor Před 8 měsíci

      True. Japanese workholding is holding is different and so is their sawbenchs. Rex showed how the foot is used for workholding the wood at an low upward angle for ripping, which allows the large upper back muscles to drive the saw. Ripping with large japanese saws at a stand up bench works better with an end vice, rather than a face vice because you can angle upwards the lumber, which allows more effective use of a ryoba's cutting action and allows you to follow the line closely, especially if you stand face on to the top of the board.

  • @madladpjl
    @madladpjl Před 8 měsíci

    my Dad was a carptner and in his workshop when we where kids, he had a work bench and a saw horse. i use to sit on it a lot.

  • @billmccabe9601
    @billmccabe9601 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for jarring my memory.
    A long, many years ago, while my Dad and Uncle was slapping together saw horses with the metal connectors, our neighbor brought his...and they were actually what this video shows on the right bench...they were both, identical saw benches.
    Thank you again.

  • @robohippy
    @robohippy Před 8 měsíci +4

    I am sure you are aware, but the Bahco saw has a 90 degree angle and a 45 degree angle on the handle. So butt it up to the wood and the top edge is your pencil line. This was standard on some old saws.

  • @AramisWyler
    @AramisWyler Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love it! I'm pumped to see the next video, and I'd love to hear why these 2 were the most functional ones you found.

  • @kennyginn1577
    @kennyginn1577 Před 8 měsíci

    I remember my Dad had a saw bench, many, many years ago. He got it from his Dad. He was only a woodworker by necessity, where as my Grand father was a wood worker all the way. My grandfather passed in 1967, so that kind of gives you a time reference.

  • @DavesRabbitHole
    @DavesRabbitHole Před 3 měsíci

    Will defo be making the english version of this, i want a little area inside the house for the winter months when i can make little projects, i was going to go with a roman bench and a tool box, but i think this is smaller and suits my space better.

  • @StefanTarras
    @StefanTarras Před 8 měsíci

    Been meaning to make one of these. The video is very timely!

  • @bwilson_guitarworks
    @bwilson_guitarworks Před 8 měsíci

    Awesome, I've been planning to build something like this based on your traveller's bench, now I can get right to it. Thanks!

  • @salottin
    @salottin Před 8 měsíci +1

    Aaaaah this came at exactly the best time! I'm desperately in need of a bench and one of them will be mine! I just gotta see how to do 'em hahaha

  • @ikust007
    @ikust007 Před 8 měsíci

    Splendide ! Will be happy to watch these videos !

  • @worstworkshop
    @worstworkshop Před 8 měsíci

    I love these, and am excited to see the build videos.

  • @VTheMighty
    @VTheMighty Před 8 měsíci

    You really know your stuff Mr. Rex thank you again for sharing

  • @jimmcnett
    @jimmcnett Před 8 měsíci

    Nice video. Can't wait for next week

  • @christopherharrison6724
    @christopherharrison6724 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video as always Rex

  • @robertchitty3603
    @robertchitty3603 Před 8 měsíci

    Great vid Rex, a saw bench was the very first thing I built back in 2020 after completing my work bench thanks to Stumpynubs video.
    I really enjoy the split top varient myself, though I also have a modified Roman bench (based off your video) that I added a notch to the end of which also functions as my drilling/carving/chopping station. I find it interesting how much stuff has been lost to time but seeking more efficient ways of working and reading old books has lead me to many of the same solutions that youve inevitably presented in your videos.

  • @user-qg6fy4yp8t
    @user-qg6fy4yp8t Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks, looking forward!

  • @PamelaRubel
    @PamelaRubel Před 8 měsíci +2

    I havent even started woodworking (Im slowly getting a basic starter tool set) and I love your videos! I really like this one, because I have planned to build low saw horses and low roman bench as my first 2 projects, based on your videos, and now I think I should be able to make a low roman bench/saw bench hybrid. Maybe? Anyway, im looking forward to the build video for these two benches!

  • @ianpearse4480
    @ianpearse4480 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I love my split top saw bench. Based it on a Roman workbench and Stumpy Nubbs's saw horse mixed together. I have some dog holes in the top, a saw tote on the side between one set of the legs. I can hold work up right agains the front or side. It fits a large oak panel door in between the split tops side, which has a stop at one end so the door can press up against it and can be clamped to the legs. Next phase is to build it again with an L shaped end to support larger sheets of wood. Good luck with the new build next week. Can't wait.

    • @arick_mnc
      @arick_mnc Před 8 měsíci +1

      I did something quite similar to you, but I built an additional 1 leg of the bent about 18 inch long and same height to be my support bench. I put tool tote tray on that which has also a pull out tote.

    • @ianpearse4480
      @ianpearse4480 Před 8 měsíci +1

      That sounds cool. @@arick_mnc

  • @andyc972
    @andyc972 Před 8 měsíci

    Excellent, thanks Rex, in a way I think this is the best video you've made, some real world effective advice here, looking forward to the saw horse videos !
    I have to say I've seen some less charitable comments about your content recently, but this video just shows the value of sharing your journey and what you share in what you've learnt. so thanks for that Rex, I for one appreciate your efforts !

  • @PlainsmansCabin
    @PlainsmansCabin Před 8 měsíci +1

    One of my first projects into hand tool woodworking was a sawbench from Vic Tesolin’s book, The Minimalist Woodworker.
    Im looking forward to how these are constructed. A second or even third would be most useful.

  • @Montezuma03
    @Montezuma03 Před 8 měsíci

    I'm looking forward to it too!

  • @JonathanDequeker
    @JonathanDequeker Před 8 měsíci

    Looking forward to the sawbench video!

  • @Grisza1988123
    @Grisza1988123 Před 8 měsíci

    I really like your materials because you can encourage me that it is possible to do it. Tinkering with wood is an important part of my work and you make it much easier with your materials. Now I will be building my first workbench because I will need it to make some foot-operated pottery wheels for my students... Thanks for your materials :)

  • @JohnClark-tt2bl
    @JohnClark-tt2bl Před 8 měsíci +2

    I'd need kneepads to even think about doing that.

  • @PeteLewisWoodwork
    @PeteLewisWoodwork Před 8 měsíci

    I missed the video premiere but watched as soon as I got home - and I'm glad I did because I've got designs for saw horses but I much prefer your saw benches, especially the one with the end ripping notch, which I have never seen in over 40 years in the trade. Just goes to prove that we never stop learning, which is what I love about wood working!
    P.S., I also like that Bahco saw, looks ideal for on-site use, where disposable saws are the norm (because expensive saws go missing). Much better to buy one saw and just re-sharpen as required. I'm all for saving the planet. 🙂

  • @slomkaadas9603
    @slomkaadas9603 Před 8 měsíci

    Very good video as always!
    Thank you fir that knowledge, i enjoyed it.
    Cheers from Poland 🍻

  • @abetts123
    @abetts123 Před 8 měsíci

    I just used the low workbench as my sawbench to create a mini golf while from some plywood

  • @katimaboy
    @katimaboy Před 8 měsíci

    Totally agree ! I've got 2 saw benches and use them all the time

  • @ravebrave8866
    @ravebrave8866 Před 8 měsíci

    you are the man Chikili...

  • @mondriaa
    @mondriaa Před 8 měsíci

    perfect timing already bought the wood for a saw bench last month, Im sure this will help me.
    I do a have different design in mind, 1 sized at a angle and the other side strait down and that side with a skirt with bench holes to clamp the work on bit like on some of the bigger workbenches, not sure if I will ever use it but but a extra plank will make it sturdier and that never hurts

  • @twcmaker
    @twcmaker Před 8 měsíci

    Great video Rex. I started my woodworking life using saw 'horses' (that's what they've been called over here in the UK forever) And they sort of went out of fashion or storing them was a pain.
    As a way to correct the body, sitting above the work and build up some upper strength, I think I'll be making a couple. Thanks again.
    Jamie

  • @nickzornart
    @nickzornart Před 8 měsíci +4

    With a western push saw, I can see how these would work very well, since you're pushing down "into" the bench. How well would these work with pull saws? Would that inverse motion cause problems?

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +3

      They're really not for pull saws.

  • @robertberger8642
    @robertberger8642 Před 7 měsíci

    Good video!

  • @tomjkelleher
    @tomjkelleher Před 8 měsíci

    I completely agree with all the benefits of a saw bench. I love my saw bench. Mine is built as a split top, similar to the Stumpy Nubs style, except I have a runner between the legs at the floor level, so there’s no way for my saw to strike the concrete floor. I even use my saw bench with the powered circular saw (gasp!)

  • @johnfisk811
    @johnfisk811 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Very useful. Will there be a tool chest video like the one in the background in your workshop?

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I tried to get to that this year, but i didn't get there. Soon!

    • @johnfisk811
      @johnfisk811 Před 8 měsíci

      Huzzah!@@RexKrueger

  • @andrewwebb1911
    @andrewwebb1911 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks Rex

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Před 8 měsíci

    LOVE my saw bench!!!

  • @reedplanes728
    @reedplanes728 Před 8 měsíci

    YUP!!! great stuff keep it coming. Without a good foundation you are going to struggle.

  • @bakerzermatt
    @bakerzermatt Před 8 měsíci

    Nice video! I'm between moving house, and though I have access to a (small & wobly) workbench, I haven't got a saw bench right now and I really miss it.

  • @steveasula
    @steveasula Před 7 měsíci

    I have sawn a lot of wood and have discovered that the saw bench is the best way!

  • @GhaleonEB
    @GhaleonEB Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video on a very useful tool, though I still will be doing all my sawing at my bench, for a few reasons. The first is I have issues with my wrists such that I can't assume the three-point stance with one of the points being my hand bent at 90 degrees - my wrist cannot bear that weight. A lot of us old folks have this issue. :p
    Second, my shop just doesn't have the physical space. I'm in a 10'x12' shed and only half the space is dedicated to woodworking, so I don't have room for another object to store.
    The last is just a comment on the time savings: the time spent clamping and re-clamping when ripping at the bench adds up to maybe a minute per piece, depending on the size of the board. Since I'm noodling around doing everything with hand tools anyways, I don't mind the time.
    Nonetheless, I really enjoy all of your videos and am sure this is a great solution for most folks. Just wanted to note a few of the reasons some of us may stick to the bench.

  • @noahfreeman8115
    @noahfreeman8115 Před 8 měsíci

    Looking forward to it! I have a Roman bench / sawhorse, but the legs don’t splay out so it’s tippy - so I need to rebuild the base

  • @Mulletmanalive
    @Mulletmanalive Před 8 měsíci

    Yeah, I love the Bahco saws. Their mini one ( 22tpi, dunno what they call it, it was a gimme) is fantastic.

  • @petertiffney4413
    @petertiffney4413 Před 8 měsíci

    Rex I've used saw benches all my life still used Dailey and good for sitting on at lunch at the bench 😊

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci

      I've been eating lunch at mine!!!

  • @DiersakZelesnik
    @DiersakZelesnik Před 8 měsíci +3

    Is there significant advantages to having both a saw bench and standing workbench over having a low bench for both biomechanically speaking? It seems like the roman low bench would have a significant advantage of being able fill both those niches and now I am starting to worry I am going to regret building my standing work bench haha.

    • @orbitalair2103
      @orbitalair2103 Před 8 měsíci +1

      The low Roman bench is incredibly useful. My hi workspace is for holding tools and plans now....

    • @ehisey
      @ehisey Před 8 měsíci

      You wont. I use both types oof benches, saw horse, and a mid size bench. Both high and low benches have advantages. Personally I dont have the issues Rex sees with cross cutting, ripping or resawing at the high bench. I do completely disagree about being closer to the lay out lines on the low bench. Much closer at the high bench.

  • @ferguscosgrave7510
    @ferguscosgrave7510 Před 8 měsíci

    Great thanks

  • @antonymitchell3385
    @antonymitchell3385 Před 8 měsíci

    Now making a nice vintage Diston/Nonpareil style saw handle for that Bacho blade would be a fun video to watch

  • @What_Other_Hobbies
    @What_Other_Hobbies Před 8 měsíci +3

    Stepping on the work piece instead of kneeling on it can save your knee cap and the soft tissue just under it.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +1

      For sure. Lots of ways to skin that cat.

  • @jackdillon7064
    @jackdillon7064 Před 8 měsíci +1

    When cross-cutting, why not just cut on the opposite side of the vice? If you want to cut on the right side of the vice, move it to the other side of the bench or just add another one.

  • @DAS-Machina
    @DAS-Machina Před 8 měsíci

    The captioning has "sore" instead of "saw" I don't know why you are speaking clearly as usual.

  • @mariushegli
    @mariushegli Před 8 měsíci

    I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Před 8 měsíci

    You the man

  • @KalebSmart
    @KalebSmart Před 8 měsíci

    I've been making the Moravian stool recently, and I've been alternating between using my Roman bench and crouching down to rip my legs. Using my Roman bench as a saw bench is definitely easier than getting low on the ground, but it's harder for me to see my line. I think I'm going to start my cuts in the vise, and once I have a long enough line to follow with my eyes, move to the Roman bench to finish it out

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +1

      That's a totally reasonable way to do it!

  • @zipzop6000
    @zipzop6000 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really wanted sawing this way to work for me, but it's just way too hard on my back. In general, the low bench was just untenable.

  • @CzKaa
    @CzKaa Před 8 měsíci +3

    Nice explanation of working with a western type saw. Thanks. 🤓
    But more and more I use Japanese-type saws (pull cut). They are more accurate and less strenuous (less material is removed) because they do not have curved teeth.

  •  Před 8 měsíci

    now I need to build one :)

  • @johnford7847
    @johnford7847 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I recommend the split top design saw bench. More flexibility in clamping and in ripping long pieces. I built Stumpy Nubs' version and have been very happy with it, both for sawing and mortising. Only problem is that it's a horizontal surface and I'm not disciplined enough to keep it free of odds and ends.

    • @jimcarter4929
      @jimcarter4929 Před 8 měsíci

      Had the Stubby versions for some years now and can attest to its usefulness. it has a few holes that are handy for holdfast aides too. Another way to hold work is a Jorgensen clamp. I have a trestle the same height as saw bench that is great for longer pieces but takes less room than another horse.

    • @arick_mnc
      @arick_mnc Před 8 měsíci

      My solution for storage is up on end... minimizes stacking of stuff on flat surface! LOL.

  • @theWendigo1928
    @theWendigo1928 Před 8 měsíci

    I am surprised there are actual work benches for dedicating sawing tasks. I assume the low angel work bench lightweight traveler was more than enough for sawing, I too made it out of your plans. So I always figured it was just enough to have a low-angle workbench like yours for sawing operations. Then a high bench, I worked on a high bench-like level in my earlier year of woodworking. MY GOD big difference when I built your lightweight traveler workbench. The only problem I will see is the length of my saw, dewalt hard point. Sometimes it gets too long to the point of it hitting the surface below, but I think that depends on a person's height and the saw the crafter uses. I am 5'8 so that puts my level a bit close to the ground if I use a saw longer than the hardpoint one you showed in your past videos, but regardless I will be looking forward to your videos mentioning more of this sawing work bench in comparison to your light weight travelers low angel benches.

  • @matthewwright57
    @matthewwright57 Před 8 měsíci

    I love my handtools and I do a ton of hand joinery. But I love my bandsaw. Breaking down rough lumber is just too time consuming to do with hand saws. And this is why most hand tool woodworkers dont know about saw benches.

  • @lejlej
    @lejlej Před 8 měsíci

    I've been planning to buy a new saw for a while now. I've been looking for something that I can resharpen. My favorite brand is BAHCO. This saw is perfect for me.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I think you'll like it. After 3 years, mine have held up great.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Před 8 měsíci +1

    Oh, awesome! 😃
    Looking forward to the build, Rex!!!
    But I need to ask... What about with Japanese saws?
    Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @KJ-qr9sm
    @KJ-qr9sm Před 8 měsíci

    Rex make a dutch tool chest if you have not yet i would love to see the process.

  • @blayne2029
    @blayne2029 Před 8 měsíci

    Isn’t the rip saw usually longer than a crosscut saw? Love your channel.

  • @michaeldonaldson4334
    @michaeldonaldson4334 Před 8 měsíci

    Rex… great video. Can you use them somehow for resawimg?

  • @MG-vo7is
    @MG-vo7is Před 8 měsíci

    Nice.

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Před 8 měsíci

    I made a split top saw bench with about an inch between em, only sawed into it once in 2 or 3 yrs 😆

  • @Nurk0m0rath
    @Nurk0m0rath Před 8 měsíci +3

    Only thing I think these sawbenches are missing is the rip-slot down the center. They look quite good. But for my tiny shop, I'll probably just stick to my low Roman bench for every job. Though I suppose I might put a notch in one end of it to hold big pieces.

    • @thomashverring9484
      @thomashverring9484 Před 8 měsíci +2

      That's exactly what I've been planning to do, cut a notch in one end!

    • @arick_mnc
      @arick_mnc Před 8 měsíci +1

      I have never used the notch on my split top and almost always cut off of one side. I would think of a clamp on notch instead of cutting my Roman bench... food for thought

    • @thomashverring9484
      @thomashverring9484 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@arick_mnc I'll keep it in mind. Someone on the forum just made a notched board to put on top of his low bench, which seems like a good idea.

  • @ricos1497
    @ricos1497 Před 8 měsíci

    I was hoping you'd come up with a unique bench to use for ripping my 2.5 inch thick board into two 1 inch boards. Oh well, I can still make a saw bench I guess.

  • @wouterengels7769
    @wouterengels7769 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I already built Stumpy's version, but I see i should use it more often.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I think the saw bench is just as important as the high bench. Stumpy's design looks great. I bet it works very well.

  • @AmandaFerry
    @AmandaFerry Před 8 měsíci

    Lovely! A note: the captions insist on calling it a "sore bench" which makes me giggle

  • @CodyBrandt580
    @CodyBrandt580 Před 8 měsíci

    I have thought about using Jay Bates traditional workhorse build slightly modified to be a saw bench. Possibly splitting the worktop to have an adjustable workstop in the center that can stow away for ripping long boards down the middle.

    • @arick_mnc
      @arick_mnc Před 8 měsíci +1

      I built a split top bench 90% Stumpy's (except I had top totally split. no inset glued wood. never needed) and 10% James Wright (overhanging top with v knotch on the overhang end with through tennons)
      I added (glued) a 2x4 down center of each side of top to make double thick and then drilled a row of 3/4 inch dog holes down each side of the top about every 4 inches. I use a 20mm beach dowels to end of the over hang ends and know he'd to knock up stops (rarely use... but handy at times).
      I use holdfast in the others which proves extremely handy for a 4th had and preserving my kneecap.
      Finally, I also made a planing stop that drops into dowel holes on bench. Again, handy at times and easy to build.
      I have a removable cheap metal working vice to camp on as well as a woodworking one. the king with a screw that twists up to secure the vice to a table top.
      Finally, I make a short stool of same height as bench and about 18in wide on top. it looks like Stumpy's but only one half and only 18 inches wide. This provides a moveable support of equal height to rip long boards or support a very wide board.
      In practice, I only saw down middle rarely and on smaller boards when easy to judge where I am cutting (concerned about accidently cutting into bench).
      I almost always secure ripped boards using hold fasts.

    • @arick_mnc
      @arick_mnc Před 8 měsíci

      @twatnugget69 at this link you can see me sitting on the split top with the hold fasts securing a removable leg vice.

    • @arick_mnc
      @arick_mnc Před 8 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/CjURopcZ1MQ/video.htmlsi=kLBmT7EnNcJB1_ul

  • @peterhansson7967
    @peterhansson7967 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Just by looking at this video my knee begins to ache…

  • @markchaplain1152
    @markchaplain1152 Před 8 měsíci

    Saw benches became sort of obselete because of radial arm saws and hand held circular saws !!😢

  • @weekendwarrior3420
    @weekendwarrior3420 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If you saw a lot you need power tools, a little - doesn't really hurt the lower back. But still - power tools make better cuts and thus save even more time. This vedio is for those who likes to live a hard way.

    • @ehisey
      @ehisey Před 8 měsíci +1

      I am going to dis agree. I am generally as fast and as accurate if not more with a handsaw than power tool. And way less setup. Strike a line cut, no jigs, no fence adjusting or depth setting, or angles to match. The exception is doing very long rips, or doing lots of the same cut.

    • @weekendwarrior3420
      @weekendwarrior3420 Před 8 měsíci

      @@ehisey I'd agree that it greatly depends on what kind of work you are doing. But I really can't see how the cuts made by a miter saw with a laser guide, for example, could be faster or better made by a hand saw...

    • @ehisey
      @ehisey Před 8 měsíci

      @@weekendwarrior3420 Have you ever use a Wen? I will put an experienced craftsman up against a $250 dollar laser guide Wen miter, and they will be more accurate over half the time. As to the time thing, it is not just the cut but the setup time included, on a dead 90 chop if the miter is near by probably faster, get off 90, or use non square stock, or have to lug it out of the corner and set it up first (small shop space for example), and grabbing a sharp backsaw a the bench can be faster overall.

    • @weekendwarrior3420
      @weekendwarrior3420 Před 8 měsíci

      @@ehisey If a miter saw with a laser guide isn't accurate enough for what you are doing you can get a better one, I suppose... I'll agree that if your cutting tree branches maybe the miter saw isn't convenitent.

    • @ehisey
      @ehisey Před 8 měsíci

      @weekendwarrior3420 or get good eith a back sae 30 bucks and more versital than a miter. Just a double taper leg makes a miter saw complex to setup a cross cut on.

  • @Tater1337
    @Tater1337 Před 8 měsíci +1

    so....
    a short low roman workbench?

  • @sampickett3843
    @sampickett3843 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Rex, Thanks for the video. I really want to try a saw bench but I will have to find a way to protect my knee when it is holding the work down. My knees just will not hold up in that position without paying the price in pain. I think knee pads may help, but I don't really like wearing them. I'll keep my thinking cap on, but I'd appreciate advice on how to make the saw benches more knee friendly.

    • @ehisey
      @ehisey Před 8 měsíci +1

      Cinch rope will probably do it. Basically just a rop around the bench you slide the work piece under and then step on to clamp in place. Or do a sitting rip, which I use a lot, you sit on the work piece and run the saw nearly vertical in the notch.

    • @arick_mnc
      @arick_mnc Před 8 měsíci +1

      I built the stumpy nubs bench and placed hold fast holes down center of both sides. under the center, I glued a 2x4 after making to make the hold fast hooked double thick and drooled through them after set.
      HOLD FASTS replace my knee 99% if time when I rip and x cut.

  • @frankda4
    @frankda4 Před 8 měsíci

    What I want to know is the Japanese saw equivalent for the saw bench. Any books or references for this info in English?

  • @dstrctd
    @dstrctd Před 8 měsíci

    I’ll be finishing up my Paul Sellers workbench this weekend, and could make either of these from the offcuts for a great companion. Rex, I notice you haven’t cut a ripping notch (which you just told us all the benefits of) into the Swedish version. Could you use a ripping notch in that bench without the saw hitting the battens?

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci

      Yup! Adding the notch is no problem.

  • @ppmendonca1
    @ppmendonca1 Před 8 měsíci

    How does this apply to pull saws?

  • @munch15a
    @munch15a Před 6 měsíci

    do japanese oull saws work fine with this still of bench ?

  • @tuppybrill4915
    @tuppybrill4915 Před 8 měsíci

    Me looking smug because I have been cross cutting and rip sawing like this forever ... because my workbench is covered in junk and so I use a couple of old chairs instead. 😏

  • @JuddMaltin7
    @JuddMaltin7 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is the Rex content I signed up for! A little joke wouldn't have hurt. 😊
    And when you drop into the Patreon pitch, I think you should switch to an old-timey accent - like 1930 and 1940s newsmen. That'd be fun. 😜

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  Před 8 měsíci +2

      I'm glad I'm delivering the goods!