Oh I know. But that is because of rubbish getting shoved in mags. This is items that can't be shoved in and only help you grip the mags better, creating less adjustment time and thus greater efficiency
6 mags on the left side, RCK (acceptable) and boxed 5.56mm in the empty right side magazine pouches. We were never issued more than 5 mags at any time, in the early 1990s.
back in my time with the older '58 issue webbing it was 2x slr mags cleaning kit and the sling in the left pouch and 3x slr mags in the right pouch, back then .'slings were for lazy people' and the swivels were taped up to prevent them rattling... how times have changes
Hi, It's not actually PLCE (Personal Load Carrying Equipment), it's a commercially made version that's a tad suped up. (It wouldn't sell if it were below or on par with the issue item) PLCE is modular. The large middle pouches are modelled on PLCE Waterbottle (US: Canteen!) and Utility pouches. The Utility pouch is designed to be optionally fitted to the front in place of the magazine pouches. If you fire the GPMG (US: M240), the magazine pouches are useless. Utility pouches carry link (7.62mm belted amm) well, as well as grenades. When we were first issued PLCE, it became a thing to bin the right side magazine pouches and replace them with a spare Utility pouch. Seeing a lot of the comments, when we used the '58 pattern fighting order (CEFO), we had to carry IN it what's needed to support the soldier for 24 hours - PLUS shovel or pickaxe. Meaning also rations and a small wash kit! Clued up soldiers carried a "miniaturised" wash kit. You needed to carry soap and a razor to shave to maintain a safe seal with your respirator (during the Cold War). When daysacks began to be carried, the kit dispersal became more like it is today: fighting order containing bullets, bombs, RCK, FAK, 349 radio (if carried), a single ration meal (emergency), brew kit and water, everything else in the daysack. For a time, I had an ALICE Waterbottle pouch on my PLCE CEFO - a great piece of US Army kit!
Correct.. that is probably why he lost a back piece of hardware on the belt.. That rig is on par with web-tex or other sub-par brands, IMO.. Been using issue PLCE here in Alaska for about a decade. Nothing has ever failed on me. Been using the PLCE ruck as well. Never an issue
I think the Crusader pattern water bottle (canteen) is better than our US canteens because of the large mouth to give easier cleaning while the US canteen was hard to clean. I still have the US canteens but use the Crusader bottles now.
That’s a custom set you have there. UK Troops are still buying more up to date but similar belt kit now. As you say you are supposed to be able to live and fight for 24 hours at a push with what you can carry.
Some people, used to have four utility pouches on their belt kit. Recommend change out your webbing belt, plastic buckle which break very easily. My friends and I, changed it out for Roll pin Belt Buckle or Quick Release Metal Strap Buckle.
You have what is called an airborne set of webbing..plce is a belted system like the one alice kit..airborne comes from the paras were the first to have these set made up locally by private firms specialising in kit modifications for UK 🇬🇧 forces..
Our webbing ('58 patt) was usually issued well knackered and the only way to guarantee that it kept together was to stitch it all to the belt. At some time, some blokes gave all the pouches to a rigger/tailor for him to machine sew together - and so began a trend...
one thing i have learned after 20 years in the army as a salior. yes army sailor mos 61b to 88k. we went too a blue filter on our pernsonnel flashlights. as we have red lines on charts. an a red light would cancel out red lines at night. so we needed a contrasting color that would alloow the red lines too show up. also the blue light is a little more dim vs red.
As an active soldier of the british infantry i can say that is not issue but not far off. The buckle system is not the issue system. We have SOP's with our loadout on the Webbing. Left side 2 pouches are magazine as your right hand will be holding your weapon system, next is a 1 litre water bottle and the centre one is rations and cooking. the one on the right of that is either another water bottle or where you would store your IFAK and then the others are grenade pouches but most the time one will have a small coffee flask to keep you going haha. hope that helps you.
PLCE is designed so a soldier can stay self sufficient for 24-48 hours. And your version isn’t actually PLCE it’s an aftermarket version, the PLCE system is fully modular
@@doitriteak Absolutely, as someone whose worn PLCE on exercises, I’ve had to modify it a bit with bungees, zip ties, stitches etc to make sure it all stays together while running
@@tomsoki5738When you had/wore PLCE webbing ,did you have a narrow strap that ran ran along through loops in the back off the punches,below the actual belt?,my son has juts bought a PLCE set and doesn’t have this but I have seen it on CZcams videos of webbing and I’d wondered what the bottom loops were for .if you did ,what straps were used /what were they called ?
@@GC-wj6ni Yes all of mine have had the strap, it really helps when running with a heavy load. It stops them bouncing around so much, I also run a bungee cord under the closing tabs on the outside of the pouches for the same reason
If your shelter is hasty, the bungee may be just right. When using a bungee you will want to compensate for stretch if in a storm. But a properly built structure using bungee is not difficult. Poncho/tarps in the military have bungee attached for this purpose
Current serving in British Army, still got my old DPM Airborne Webbing before I got my MTP Airborne Webbing. Just go issued are Virtus Webbing, not great. Only use it for pulling Guard Duty.
I notest you did not have the bum roll in this you can fit eather your NBC kit trousers jacket boots set up to be put on .or you can have a poncho poncho liner and a bivi rolled up so when you unlock roll it the bivi is first the roll has two hooks and two side straps like on the 58 webbing these attach to the metal loops at the bottom of the back pouches the straps attach to loops on the back side of the front ammo pouches you can then adjust the tension to hold the roll tight to you and the webbing .if there's no loops you can put some large split rings through the molly and attach the hooks to them
PLCE originally was green. Green except for the Patrol Pack, Other Arms Rucksack and Pack Air Support Back which were introduced when PLCE was in DPM. It's now made in MTP. Pte Benjamin would have been happy. ;-)
The draw bak with this is if its full af stuff you cant sitdown in a saracen or landrover, with the belt on. We always left 2 spaces at tbe back so you can sit down with belt on. I served with these in my time.
It's nice but it's not the true PLCE which is incredibly modular even today you can attach a bum roll (a pouch that goes where the sandbags do) or have a gunner set up so utility pouches where the mag ones are or replace the right then with a commanders pouch or a med kit. Also I would do more research it's designed to susatin you fro 24 hrs so if you were attacked and ditched you Bergen or daysack your not fucked if you need more info comment and I will respond ASAP
I've heard little praise on modularity since the pouches rub and bounce, making it necessary to tie them down. A commanders pouch has dubious value for most grunts when you have cargo pockets
You'll have to model this in the next vid. I'm having trouble visualizing where it rides in relation to a small pack. Do you wear a sidearm with it? Heat's an issue where I am, this looks like it would be cooler to wear than a lot of chest rigs and vests.
Joel Braswell it usually sits just above your hips or round waist it’s adjustable and it’s made for our forces when they are in a hot climate ie jungle because it’s very breathable
I have mine around my hips, when wearing it it takes the place of rucksack waist support and is designed to do this with the small pack/Bergen resting on top of the 3 rear utility pouches without the Daysacks waist strap being needed, the ammunition pouches should sit more to your sides so you can lie down without the magazines digging in.
Showed my brother this ex British army, mag pouches only hold mags nothing should get in the way, universal pouches u got 3 he says 2 should hold water minimum third should have a water bottle unless u need to carry mission essential kit, if u want more storage remove the 2 extra mag pouches and fit the universal ones, u rarely need over 7 mags if u do it's going bad
@@doitriteak thank you. I am going. Problem is, as a finn, russian camo/equipment is not very "healty" in the times when air is polutet by small nasty bits and pieces. :D
It's a webtex copy not a NATO issue, still good tho the buckles are cheap made in China ones. I would learn how to sew and change them. Or source actual British army surplus
You have been bumthed there, as already mentioned, that a custom set, it seems you have 3 water bottle pouches instead of 2 utilities pouches and 1 water bottle also remove that electrical installation tape, replace it with something that fabric based. carry out on PLCE change depending on unit, some units will have an entrenching tool, some units will carry 2 water bottles, even the yoke it not an issued PLCE version, I am sorry, that is not PLCE, could be an early set of Jayjays given that it is in DPM. Those popper on the ammo pouches are dumb, the popper are redundant, think cold weather and empty pouches.
This ain't PLCE. It is one of the not so cheep crappy knock offs that get suggested as custom made. However they are regarded as generally worthless due to crappy build quality that fails to last.
over the pond we have a rule in the British forces that nothing except magazines go in the double mag pouches and that is strict as I've heard
Oh I know. But that is because of rubbish getting shoved in mags. This is items that can't be shoved in and only help you grip the mags better, creating less adjustment time and thus greater efficiency
6 mags on the left side, RCK (acceptable) and boxed 5.56mm in the empty right side magazine pouches. We were never issued more than 5 mags at any time, in the early 1990s.
I'd keep mini me link in then in iraq 2007 ,
back in my time with the older '58 issue webbing it was 2x slr mags cleaning kit and the sling in the left pouch and 3x slr mags in the right pouch, back then .'slings were for lazy people' and the swivels were taped up to prevent them rattling... how times have changes
@@DevilbyMoonlight Im sure we kept all our SA80 mags in the left pouch and the cleaning kit in the right
Hi,
It's not actually PLCE (Personal Load Carrying Equipment), it's a commercially made version that's a tad suped up. (It wouldn't sell if it were below or on par with the issue item)
PLCE is modular. The large middle pouches are modelled on PLCE Waterbottle (US: Canteen!) and Utility pouches. The Utility pouch is designed to be optionally fitted to the front in place of the magazine pouches. If you fire the GPMG (US: M240), the magazine pouches are useless. Utility pouches carry link (7.62mm belted amm) well, as well as grenades. When we were first issued PLCE, it became a thing to bin the right side magazine pouches and replace them with a spare Utility pouch.
Seeing a lot of the comments, when we used the '58 pattern fighting order (CEFO), we had to carry IN it what's needed to support the soldier for 24 hours - PLUS shovel or pickaxe. Meaning also rations and a small wash kit! Clued up soldiers carried a "miniaturised" wash kit. You needed to carry soap and a razor to shave to maintain a safe seal with your respirator (during the Cold War).
When daysacks began to be carried, the kit dispersal became more like it is today: fighting order containing bullets, bombs, RCK, FAK, 349 radio (if carried), a single ration meal (emergency), brew kit and water, everything else in the daysack. For a time, I had an ALICE Waterbottle pouch on my PLCE CEFO - a great piece of US Army kit!
Sorry - US ALICE *CANTEEN* pouch... ;-)
I heard that the Pattern 58 rucksack was hated by basically everybody (well, I did at least). Also, did anybody actually use the entrenching tool?
Correct.. that is probably why he lost a back piece of hardware on the belt.. That rig is on par with web-tex or other sub-par brands, IMO.. Been using issue PLCE here in Alaska for about a decade. Nothing has ever failed on me. Been using the PLCE ruck as well. Never an issue
I think the Crusader pattern water bottle (canteen) is better than our US canteens because of the large mouth to give easier cleaning while the US canteen was hard to clean. I still have the US canteens but use the Crusader bottles now.
@First_name_youtube_doesnt_like Jay Jay's
That’s a custom set you have there. UK Troops are still buying more up to date but similar belt kit now. As you say you are supposed to be able to live and fight for 24 hours at a push with what you can carry.
Some people, used to have four utility pouches on their belt kit.
Recommend change out your webbing belt, plastic buckle which break very easily.
My friends and I, changed it out for Roll pin Belt Buckle or Quick Release Metal Strap Buckle.
You have what is called an airborne set of webbing..plce is a belted system like the one alice kit..airborne comes from the paras were the first to have these set made up locally by private firms specialising in kit modifications for UK 🇬🇧 forces..
What’s the difference between the airborne webbing and webbing the regular army would use?
@@aaronanderson7931 ..plce is based on a belt much like the old alice kit..look it up on you tube there videos on it..atb from UK 🇬🇧
Our webbing ('58 patt) was usually issued well knackered and the only way to guarantee that it kept together was to stitch it all to the belt. At some time, some blokes gave all the pouches to a rigger/tailor for him to machine sew together - and so began a trend...
one thing i have learned after 20 years in the army as a salior. yes army sailor mos 61b to 88k. we went too a blue filter on our pernsonnel flashlights. as we have red lines on charts. an a red light would cancel out red lines at night. so we needed a contrasting color that would alloow the red lines too show up. also the blue light is a little more dim vs red.
As an active soldier of the british infantry i can say that is not issue but not far off. The buckle system is not the issue system. We have SOP's with our loadout on the Webbing. Left side 2 pouches are magazine as your right hand will be holding your weapon system, next is a 1 litre water bottle and the centre one is rations and cooking. the one on the right of that is either another water bottle or where you would store your IFAK and then the others are grenade pouches but most the time one will have a small coffee flask to keep you going haha. hope that helps you.
Excellent
PLCE is designed so a soldier can stay self sufficient for 24-48 hours. And your version isn’t actually PLCE it’s an aftermarket version, the PLCE system is fully modular
True. Its just more comfortable and quieter when running
@@doitriteak Absolutely, as someone whose worn PLCE on exercises, I’ve had to modify it a bit with bungees, zip ties, stitches etc to make sure it all stays together while running
Indeed
@@tomsoki5738When you had/wore PLCE webbing ,did you have a narrow strap that ran ran along through loops in the back off the punches,below the actual belt?,my son has juts bought a PLCE set and doesn’t have this but I have seen it on CZcams videos of webbing and I’d wondered what the bottom loops were for .if you did ,what straps were used /what were they called ?
@@GC-wj6ni Yes all of mine have had the strap, it really helps when running with a heavy load. It stops them bouncing around so much, I also run a bungee cord under the closing tabs on the outside of the pouches for the same reason
When it comes to setting up your shelter best use bungee cords the quick to put up but also quick to take down
Hated bungee cords, woke up a couple of times with shelter in my face. I prefer 550, takes up less space and multiple uses.
If your shelter is hasty, the bungee may be just right. When using a bungee you will want to compensate for stretch if in a storm. But a properly built structure using bungee is not difficult. Poncho/tarps in the military have bungee attached for this purpose
Sooo Cool, I need to build one out. Thanks!
Thank you
Thanks for sharing this information with us!!!!! Much appreciated!!!!!🎯👍👍🤝😎😉✌️
Good video...informative stuff...I like the harness set ups...
Current serving in British Army, still got my old DPM Airborne Webbing before I got my MTP Airborne Webbing.
Just go issued are Virtus Webbing, not great. Only use it for pulling Guard Duty.
All you need now is a spare pair of socks and some John Wayne.
This was really helpful!
I notest you did not have the bum roll in this you can fit eather your NBC kit trousers jacket boots set up to be put on .or you can have a poncho poncho liner and a bivi rolled up so when you unlock roll it the bivi is first the roll has two hooks and two side straps like on the 58 webbing these attach to the metal loops at the bottom of the back pouches the straps attach to loops on the back side of the front ammo pouches you can then adjust the tension to hold the roll tight to you and the webbing .if there's no loops you can put some large split rings through the molly and attach the hooks to them
Try using a poncho roll on top of your belt order and then you have a whole empty pouch for other stuff.
good video. JUst wish you would put it on to show how it would actually fit.
Plenty of vids of British soldiers using it
I wish they had a O.D. Green or a ranger green version.
They do look for it on ebay..
Easy enough to find on ebay..
They do. I was issued od before the dpm. I preferred the od. Remember to run a bungy across the pouches. Otherwise the kit inside rattles like bitch.
PLCE originally was green. Green except for the Patrol Pack, Other Arms Rucksack and Pack Air Support Back which were introduced when PLCE was in DPM. It's now made in MTP.
Pte Benjamin would have been happy. ;-)
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The draw bak with this is if its full af stuff you cant sitdown in a saracen or landrover, with the belt on. We always left 2 spaces at tbe back so you can sit down with belt on.
I served with these in my time.
Saracens and Kurt Steiner...I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd put £20 on this being a Para!
@@Goalie002
Not quite their rivals from rn
Интересный вариант..видимо это поздний вариант??? Судя по защелкам ,фастекс,...и патронным подсумкам...😮🤔
It's nice but it's not the true PLCE which is incredibly modular even today you can attach a bum roll (a pouch that goes where the sandbags do) or have a gunner set up so utility pouches where the mag ones are or replace the right then with a commanders pouch or a med kit. Also I would do more research it's designed to susatin you fro 24 hrs so if you were attacked and ditched you Bergen or daysack your not fucked if you need more info comment and I will respond ASAP
The guys I worked with said it will last 48 hrs if you're smart. 12 for kinetic fighting
I've heard little praise on modularity since the pouches rub and bounce, making it necessary to tie them down. A commanders pouch has dubious value for most grunts when you have cargo pockets
@@doitriteak i guess 48 but 24 is all you really need cause you should find your way back in that time is the idea
@@doitriteak with tieing them down it can be used to attach camo like long grass or gloves so it's not a massive down side in my eyes
How do you wear it if you wanna wear a plate carrier, on top you wear this, where does the bergen go?
You'll have to model this in the next vid. I'm having trouble visualizing where it rides in relation to a small pack. Do you wear a sidearm with it? Heat's an issue where I am, this looks like it would be cooler to wear than a lot of chest rigs and vests.
Joel Braswell it usually sits just above your hips or round waist it’s adjustable and it’s made for our forces when they are in a hot climate ie jungle because it’s very breathable
@@Kit-lu6ox Thank you for the info! That sounds like good equipment. Where I'm at, it's still in the mid 90s with very high humidity in mid September.
I have mine around my hips, when wearing it it takes the place of rucksack waist support and is designed to do this with the small pack/Bergen resting on top of the 3 rear utility pouches without the Daysacks waist strap being needed, the ammunition pouches should sit more to your sides so you can lie down without the magazines digging in.
Showed my brother this ex British army, mag pouches only hold mags nothing should get in the way, universal pouches u got 3 he says 2 should hold water minimum third should have a water bottle unless u need to carry mission essential kit, if u want more storage remove the 2 extra mag pouches and fit the universal ones, u rarely need over 7 mags if u do it's going bad
That is all british army regulation. As a civilian or paramilitary contractor, I do what I want.
I have nearly the same type of plce. Mine are all sewn on. Not sure if it’s a good thing, or bad thing.
Nice!!! Peace To All!
Nice vid!
Spare socks give the same effect as a 1st aid bandage.
That's not PLCE, it's a commercial copy.
Save your money on the straw system, tried a few times. Get caught on everything all the time, especially if your in the jungle.
I have done well with it so far
Massive mistake u put ur ammo mags on ur left side so u don’t have to take ur hand of the pistol grip
That's Airborne Webbing.
What is that pad you have underneath and where can I find one?
I’m Intrigued what are you using your wedding for
Good video , i own one without fastex (1996)
I want ask if you have some supported backpacks
How many AK 74 mags can fit into the dpm mag pouches?
Thanks
One maybe
Do AK-47 mags fit in those mag pouches and if they do, how many?
This would be just perfect for my as a lrrp/unmounted operations.
That is a nogo. Look into russian designs for that good stuff
@@doitriteak thank you. I am going. Problem is, as a finn, russian camo/equipment is not very "healty" in the times when air is polutet by small nasty bits and pieces. :D
AK-74 mags would but the 47 ones are too curved
Great video. Whats filter is this?
It's a webtex copy not a NATO issue, still good tho the buckles are cheap made in China ones. I would learn how to sew and change them. Or source actual British army surplus
Any link for where you got this rig?
Not PLCE, but very similar layout.
does anyone know if the mag pouches will fit ak mags ? (specifically 7.62)
You would be interested in Smersh
Ammo pouch is custom made or
You have been bumthed there, as already mentioned, that a custom set, it seems you have 3 water bottle pouches instead of 2 utilities pouches and 1 water bottle also remove that electrical installation tape, replace it with something that fabric based. carry out on PLCE change depending on unit, some units will have an entrenching tool, some units will carry 2 water bottles, even the yoke it not an issued PLCE version, I am sorry, that is not PLCE, could be an early set of Jayjays given that it is in DPM. Those popper on the ammo pouches are dumb, the popper are redundant, think cold weather and empty pouches.
Where did u get this from?
Ebay. They show up now and again
@@doitriteak do u know what make/brand it is like a specific name if u know what I mean?
Marauder from marauder tactical out of the uk
This ain't PLCE. It is one of the not so cheep crappy knock offs that get suggested as custom made. However they are regarded as generally worthless due to crappy build quality that fails to last.
Where can I get these for cheap?
Ebay usually
I don’t think that’s PLCE mate
These pouch’s have buttons
It isn't. It is inspired by and designed off the PLCE.
Where did you get this man
Ebay. Marauder dpm webbing
That’s NOT PLCE
А ты пробовал Смерш или другое российское снаряжение ?
"Смерш"?!
I thought that was a James Bond thing...
@@simonsignolet5632 i mean belt kit made by SSO/SPOSN
Yet another 16-year-old Walt.