Did Mate Rimac Just Save The Supercar? [S6, E63]
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- This week Tony and I discuss:
0:22 - The UK & winter roads [Tony nearly crashed]
5:06 - Sam nearly crashed a Carrera T
6:54 - Porsche's exclusive manufacturer range
11:00 - The reaction to Sam's 4 seater GT3 modification
14:17 - Tony's S500 has sold already!
17:04 - BMW 8 series are ridiculously cheap [Stock watch]
19:40 - Is this 2015 RS4 a bargain?
25:38 - Car news!
31:01 - Hypercar developments
39:26 - Rimac's next car won't be battery powered?
45:17 - Future topics for BTG?
52:58 - Outro
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Glasses look good and now the name Behind the Glass makes sense.
…again
Somehow I thought they both always had glasses 😅
Iam sure it about being behind a windscreen not a pair of glasses 🙄
@@damienhostey4563 or behind the glass of his camera??
@@GM-kj6sb what ever floats your boat
Ettore, Enzo, Mate...
Here's a few Fun Facts:
Ettore founds Bugatti in 1909
20s and 30s "Golden years"
1947 Ettore's death
1947 Enzo founds Ferrari
1988 Enzo's death
1988 Mate Rimac was born
2009 Mate founds Rimac (100 years after Bugatti)
Looks like 20s and 30s are gonna be "Golden Years" for Bugatti again... and beyond...✌️😎
The best way to answer the last question as a petrol head I would normally want the car to sound really good stock vs aftermarket exhaust. So basically it's the specific characteristics of the engine whereas it becomes an iconic engine to give you an example RB26, 2jz, LFA engine 458 speciale, 599 gto, Zonda 7.3l V12 and the list goes on... After that you look into the other aspect of the cars..
Engine talk show is definitely of great interest.
I am one of the people that loved and misses the s65 naturally aspirated V8 in the M3 😢
It's a crap engine
Watching these podcasts from the beginning of BTG. Glad to see familiar names. Even in the name of podcasts. 😀
Greetings from Croatia. 👋
Big up the ivory coast
Very enjoyable as always 👍
Absolutely
So you really didn't buy the GT3 for the engine..?
I think the statement on the unimportance of the engine was perhaps not so good...
I've got the previous gen M240i with a manual, it has the same gearbox as the 1M, it's not great though as far as manuals go, but they've done a load of chassis/suspension tweaks to the manual Z4 that would make it worth it over the auto which apparently isn't getting the same changes
Great podcast as always.
Will be really interesting to see where Rimac and Bugatti go together.
I love Thursdays for this reason
i will enjoy the episode thank you Sam
I love the seats! Do what you want. People are always going to have an opinion, positive or negative.
Busso V6 in literally any modern Alfa 🙏
Hilarious guys, I think you’ve already done half a podcast on engines anyway a real fun one tonight. Keep it up lads cheers Steve.
Finally a new episode ❤
Engines that I recall people having fond reminiscences about that were specific to their makes and eras include Ferrari’s Colombo V12, Porsche’s Metzger flat six, and Lamborghini’s Bizzarrini V12. Car magazines tended to wax on about them, but I’m not sure if much matters other than the configuration, like Sam is saying.
I'm one of the few who swap over onto a set of winter tires, have done since I purchased my E91 330D, live in the east midlands at the top of a hill, I know whatever the weather from November to March\April I will be able to get about, may go to All Seasons in the future and just run them all year round.
Me too. Sam & Tony are still clueless as to the benefits of winter tyres. I'm on the east side of Nottingham and the local roads are as greasy as hell in the winter. I run winters on a second set of rims from the start of Nov to the end of April. The summers then last twice as long and used rims hold their value so the long term cost is minimal.
If you’ve got any value of car on summer tyres then it makes sense to change to winter tyres or winter rated Michelin cross climates. The only extra cost is switching over. When you’re using the winters you’re not using the summers. I switch over to winters from December to March. Tony here thinks winter tyres ‘wouldn’t have made a difference’ - that’s simply not true, they make a huge difference.
Definitely warm up a lot quicker.
UK doesn't warrant winter tyres 99% of the time.
@@Tbo1235 How cold does it get in the UK? From Michelin re: their PS4S: "Note: Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle.
Flexing of the specialized rubber compounds used in Max Performance Summer tires during cold-weather use can result in irreversible compound cracking. Compound cracking is not a warrantable condition because it occurs as the result of improper use or storage, tires exhibiting compound cracking must be replaced."
41:35 The new Bugatti will be a Hybrid, not full electric like Nevera.
Sam, you need to get yourself a B8 RS4 think you would love it and it would be great content, not so much a build series but for sure be good to see you go about perfecting it and treating it properly 👍🏼
Sam, I have always enjoyed your videos and have been following your main channel for years and this one since ît was created. Anytime anyone enjoys success in their lives there will be people who are jealous and take cheap shots. There will also be those who are critical and don't agree with all your choices on car aesthetics. It comes with the territory and unfortunately you have to deal with both. Good thing is they're clicking on your videos and engaging, ultimately benefiting you. Sometimes you just have to turn the other cheek even if it stings a bit. Keep doing what you do mate.
Live in Scotland and all season tyres are all you need, all the time.
Definitely in Scotland. 95% of England doesn't require it
"Rubbery" is the most common phrase I've heard for BMW manuals 😅
For the engines segment, it's gotta be that 6.2 AMG V8. I drove an E63 AMG with that lump, and it was phenomenal. You couldn't believe that level of torque was from an n/a unit. Swap the modern 4pot hybrid rubbish with that beast anyday
Yup. Power and torque at all rpm, pulls strong down low and revs hard up top.
The base Macan EV with a few options coming in at nearly £90k!
For Tony: The New Bugatti (Chiron successor) is gonna be "Hybrid" with the New engine! Unveil 2024 !!
Had they not heard of all season tires? I live in Minnesota, USA and it is -10 to -25 degrees Celsius from December to end of February and snows 10-35” a year. Most people have all seasons and are just fine.
Winter tires are great for front or rear wheel drive vehicles but no necessary for AWD
@@GM-kj6sbTony slid off the road
0:02 welcome to behind the glasses
As a company car driver for me,if winter tyres were THE answer in the uk, then fleet insurance companies would mandate winter tyres from say September to March?
They don't so the maths must not add up.
Winter tyres not required 99% of the time in UK
A BMW AUC Warranty is by far better than any 3rd party one. I admit I work in a dealership but I’ve seen those 3rd parties warranties try to wriggle out of everything and many have a limit on the repair costs which is far too low to cover any major job. The insured warranty is also pretty good with paying out on qualifying repairs.
To the question at 52:34 : YES, older engines would definitely make a lot of newer cars better!!
yeah making them a lot slower
New cars are too heavy for the older engine, if you put a challenge engine in a 296 it would arguably be a bit slow 😂
@@irs4486Emotion > Speed
@@irs4486 who cares. its about emotion, not power.
100% buy for engine! Honestly love to see BMW shoehorning 3 litre 6 cylinder engines into small hatchbacks.
If I had a gt3 I would put seats in the back so I could use it more. I had a lock and fold seat placed in my 1994 defender to make it fit my needs more. Now I can bring my family everywhere.
The Rover V8 - Great engine
Have Toyota upped the service intervals on the new GRYaris? The old was was quite intensive servicing by modern standards.
Try a Z4M e85 roadster or coupe and you’ll see how much better than the Z3m they are. And it’s a great manual 👍
The Z3 is rubbish
@@Tbo1235 100%. Idk why he said it was a cayman competitor. It's soft, underpowered, ugly. LOL. Z4 e85 and especially e89 are actually more of competitors
How about the Honda F22C, produced for the S2000?
Don't worry about the haters of your seats Sam! As a dad with a baby and a todler daydreaming a lot on a dream garage, I get the struggle 😂 Also the comments about going deaf are stupid. You won't be hitting the rev limiter with a kid for hours on end anyway. Kudos for having the guts to buy it and set it in the spec you want.
Z4 manual makes complete sense, it’s a weekend toy so a more engaging experience is well suited
Lucky here in NZ as we have a very temperate climate where you might only get a couple a days in the middle of winter where the temperature will be zero degrees early in the morning which does catch some people out but will have warmed up by midday
Folk up at Queenstown or in Invercargill would tend to have a different opinion.
@@uberseehandel yes true I am from wellington, forget how cold it get down there🤭
I think the Z4 makes morse sense with a manual to be honest. It is a weekend car and not a daily driver.
Everything makes more sense with a manual
@@jmfangio286unfortunately that's incorrect
Speaking of old engines that should make a comback: A really good engine is BMW's M70. Its great-grandchild (if I'm remeber correct) was the S70/2 which they put in the McLaren F1. Can it get any better than that?
I want to hear Tony's thoughts about Archie's dealership
I run 4 season tyres all year. Does not matter what your tyres are, or if you have four wheel drive, if you are on ice you have NO grip anyway.
On our little hot hatch I’ve put all seasons on them. Not least they come with 2mm more tread!
Even tge was throwing shade on you're cushions
Not sure TGE is the bastion of good taste
TGE is a waste man. Gets 10k views
You guys need to do a live chat discussing all of the chat😊
The RB17 is track only, I'm pretty sure
Black ice is always hard to spot during the day unfortunately and that's definitely the biggest danger
Winter tyres below 7⁰C
From my understanding PS4S’s are the best summer tyres when it gets cold
Michelin has warning for using "summer tires" below certain temps...hence the "summer tire" naming convention. Its typically mid-40F'ish. Concerns are lack of grip and compound becoming brittle, and tire...sorry "tyre" failing, if exposed to said temps for extended period of time. Sidewalls failed on the PS2s that came with my 20thAE GTI one "winter", after very short trip from home to local eatery. Good luck driving on summers all year in cold climates.
Saying PS4S, which is quite a good tyre on track, maybe the best non-R compound tyre for track use, is great in the cold and can double as a year round tyre like Tony basically said in the video, is just bull shit. And saying it’s the best summer tyre when it gets cold, where do you even dig up that nonsense from? There are plenty summer tires better suited for colder weather use. Michelin has even got a tyre they’ve named Cross
Climate. I’ve never driven it, but it’s bet it’s far better than the PS4S in the cold and wet. I also bet it too is crap on snow, like any other summer tyre. There are winter tyres for a reason and like Sam stated, below 7 degrees Celsius one should use designated winter tyres as the grip of summer tyres just diminishes. Take it from a guy that drives around on snow from October through April, on winter tyres.
46:31 I am very aware of the engine when shopping for a car. You have to be these days. I seek out new cars with old engines to avoid the newer engines that have more issues due to small displacement being forced to push out so much power while emitting less. I prefer reliability, so engine and transmissions that are proven are paramount to me.
(and by this I mean selecting a Mazda CX-5 for its older 2.5 NA engine over a Chevy Equinox 1.5 turbo. Or a Ram 3.6 pentastar over the Chevy Silverado turbo 4, which has a 4% failure rate last time I checked.)
In the UK 95% of cars should run all season tyres. Performance cars should just switch to winter tyres.
Lexus LC500 with the Yamaha 4.7 V10 from the LFA
Sams always cared more about infotainment systems and image over engines and the actual engineering 😂
Fair enough!
I always put winter tyres on. I’m in the north east of England knocking about the dales.
Yorkshire dales? That's not the North east, it's the south 😂
@@tatumboy who mentioned the Yorkshire dales?
@Neil2022 Good idea Neil. I'm in North West and winter tyres are pointless 98.7% of the time
@@Tbo1235 North west isn’t known for terrible weather, upper Weardale and Teasdale is, also depends on the motor you’re driving
"You've got to be on the right tyre at the right time"
Tony is right , the engine is a huge part of a car 🚗 purchase. BMW V8 , Porsche air cooled , Ferrari 458 V8 . 3 or the greatest engines ever 👍😎
Bringing the Alfa Busso V6 in literally everything ever made
Well having just watched this podcast and in honour of Burns night all I will say is oh what a tangled web we weave.
Never mind doing ‘engines/cars you miss’ segment, you just did it🤣🤣🤣
It’s interesting to hear what Rimac could be looking at. And I’m sure Ferrari and other will adopt if it’s good. But it’s the likes of Ford and Toyota that has the engineers to take it and form things for the larger market. That’s where the direction and the tech will take a turn. Let’s hope the government butts out and leaves it to the engineers to solve
Red Bull road car: twin-turbo V-8 with a hybrid component, producing more than 1,100 hp
Sam’s does a great ‘Zippy from Rainbow’ when he impersonates viewers comments 😂
My eldest is turning 18 soon. I’ve cocked up and sold my manual 964 and have only got 3 automatics on the driveway now. I’m looking to get a manual car for him (and me). What’s the best car for an 18 year old petrol head brought up in the rear seat of a 964? I’ve found a 6spd RUF-tuned 996Turbo (with GT2 look) and I’m possibly swapping the Cayenne for it, thinking it’ll also be my daily run around. Thoughts?
BMW M2
Sorry it has XDrive…what about was Traction Control Off…were you Sport+ instead of Comfort or Wet…were you tyres high pressure.?
Sam, you’re wrong. Different engines of the same configuration have different characteristics and it’s the characteristic of a particular engine that can make it special and what people miss when it’s discontinued. Alfas’ Busso V6 is one such missed engine.
BTW, your Italian accent sounds more like Bella Lugosis’ Count Dracula. Funny.
Buy a car in Germany and you get offered winter rims and tyres at a really good price. In some countries winter tyres are mandatory. Most dealers offer a storage and refitting service. Not putting on winter tyres for the winter season is common sense, even in Kent.
99% of the time Winter tyres are pointless in England
@@Tbo1235
It depends which temperature the tyres are made for.
Hakkapeliitta, would be pointless as they are designed for Arctic Circle, but tyres designed for -15 to +15 Celsius work well. As the temperature drops normal tyres become less pliant, stopping distances increase, the ride become harsher, grip deteriorates and potholes are more likely to cause damage.
I'm guessing you are British.
If you live in the North of the UK then winter tyres are needed more than 2 weeks a year...what a baffling statement
Tonys wrong.. the Sclass drives well but feels very dated..and 8 series (850i) feels just as good.. with more modern tech!
Porsche are somewhere in between mass produced and smaller production runs. They do mass produce but only built to order. BMW, Mercedes, etc, all just build. There is still a niceness to speccing your Porsche, even the SUVs.
Anyone with anything negative to say about you putting back seats in the GT3 is quite frankly jealous, I’m afraid to say. Think it’s a class idea, power to you!
A discord or reddit would be good
All the bright colours, its coming from the Eastern markets that are emerging. Bright colours are popular in the East, whereas in the west, people mostly go for monotone.
Lfa engine will never be repeated will it. V10 in a new RS6 avant.
Please do a auto vs manual GR yarris review.
Late 90's and early 2000's engines from BMW are more simple to work on than the modern stuff, but when I'm not working on it, I prefer more modern engines. But it's like what Tony has said in the past - I wouldn't want an old car with modern tech. It takes away the character.
possibly the most missed V8 engine in the UK would have to be the Rover V8.. it was in so many British cars over 4 decades..
Mezger (or Metzger🤣)??!
Let’s predict how many times these will be mentioned by commentators for the future ‘old engine in a modern car’ chat!!!!
Btw…the DFI is better!…oops I said it!
Don’t let the morons get to you Sam!
If im being honest, I’m not a fan or the pacha or however it’s spelt.. but I’m not a dick enough to make horrible comments! It’s your car, you do you mate!
Real fans watch your content for your personality!
Hope this helps
Sam you are looking like Tony more and more.
If BMW had stuck the b58 in the new 135 it would have been the go to hot hatch. Instead it is just the same as every other 4wd 300bhp hot hatch
A 2JZ in the new supra instantly makes it desirable.
💯
Hi Sam - where did you get your specs? Cheers, Richard
They are Gucci
I wouldn't be mad at a VR6 R32 in a modern VW Golf R.
Mercedes 6.2 litre N/A V8 in special edition amg models just not the gearbox
Most dangerous weather is at around 0*c
yep can only top it with frozen ground (was very cold for some days) and then snow-rain on top
RIMAC is the Theranos of cars.
Hi i Iove your podcasts and your car chanel I was wondering if you have ever thought about doing a video on the porsche 911 base model compared to all the other 911 models is there much of a difference in driveability and performance to justify the extra cost I am guessing 70 percent of people how buy porsches 911 models are base models either second hand or new what I your thoughts on this I own a highly specked base 911 and I realy carnt see how it can get better for the money you have to spend
The money I saved on not getting a gt or touring I built a super car garage to keep the cars I got in I wish I could send you pictures of it I would love yo to see my set up here
Not sure why anyone left any negative comment re the GT3 seats.
Audi R5 has passed. I’m sure we’ll all
miss it?
Sam, I cant believe that you are making such a big deal over the outlay of £1k on a set of tyres for the GT3 for winter, after paying £150k+ for the purchase of the car! Its just too ridiculous.
Snow tyres...I agree, overkill for the UK unless you intend taking the car to ski resorts 3-4 times a year, but all-season tyres make perfect sense as they are great if it does snow, but mostly because they are far better in under 10 degrees weather (well that's half the year in this country then!), far better in cold weather with mushy leaves/salt/greasy roads.
My wife has all seasons on her 4x4...they didn't even deteriorate badly during our super hot 2022.
Not suggesting that you would use them all year round in a GT3....you would destroy them in a hot lap on a circuit. But you will be surprised how good they are from October until March.
This is my opinion only.
I think Sam did spec his GT3 with winter tyres when he bought it due to an upcoming road trip at the time. I also think the discussion was an in general discussion for everyone, not just themselves.
Exactly I bought a set of winter tyres for my road bike that cost £90. It's just the thing to do
Why don't you put chapters markers on your CZcams videos. I would really like to go to specific topics
Well we know mate rimac and Kristen Von K collaborat
People think winter tires will help when its icy
If its ice your sliding thats it.
Yes winter tires help when its colder to stop and snow
Exactly this. The main function is warming up faster but they aren't snow or ice tyres
51:35 lol so what then
inclement SAM. ;)
So glad colours are a thing, monochrome car parks look so dull
I love how you both just jumped on the Rimac bandwagon with little to no information. Anything to gives EVs a good hammering. 😂
😂😂😂😂
@@Tbo1235 "This is the future" - Tony 2024
Bissso V6.