The FAA Made A Decision On My Case

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  • čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
  • The FAA made a decision on my case. Here is how the process.
    For my new pilot friends,
    Pilot deviation refers to any action or behavior by a pilot that violates the rules and regulations set forth by aviation authorities. These violations can range from minor infractions, such as failing to follow an assigned altitude or heading, to more serious violations, such as flying into restricted airspace or ignoring air traffic control instructions.
    Pilot deviation can result in significant safety risks to both the pilot and other aircraft in the vicinity, and can also lead to disciplinary action and potential legal consequences. As such, it is important for pilots to receive proper training and to always adhere to established procedures and regulations in order to ensure the safety of all those involved in aviation operations.
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  • @ronsflightsimlab9512
    @ronsflightsimlab9512 Před rokem +312

    Mike, you are the kind of pilot that evaluates their experiences and looks for improvement opportunities. You are doing it right. THANK YOU for sharing.

  • @stephen5147
    @stephen5147 Před rokem +369

    My background is 20 yr AF fighters, 19 years Delta Airlines.
    I was a CFII for a lot of years. This is what I do -
    Flight plan around the Bravo.
    Look up & write down the primary & backup freq's for CLT approach.
    Use the moving map to know FOR CERTAIN you remain clear the Class B.
    You call CLT approach… do not rely on Flight Following to do it.
    Before entering make certain you hear those magic words -
    “661 Mike Bravo, cleared into the Bravo.” You MUST hear those exact words.
    And of course, don’t wait until the last moment to call them.
    But you know all that now. : ) Fly safe. Appreciate your videos.

    • @wturn5354
      @wturn5354 Před rokem +15

      Excellent advice, have a “plan B” in case you do not receive a Class B clearance!

    • @jarrettleto
      @jarrettleto Před rokem +17

      Here would be my advice: If your flight plan absolutely must take you through a class bravo, just file IFR. Otherwise, just plan to go around (or over or under) it if you're VFR. In mojo's case if you look at his flight path he could have easily gone around the bravo to the east. You can still try to get cleared through if you want to, but don't plan on it. Looks like the common route around the bravo is 247 nm (via chesterfield VOR) instead of 245 nm for direct. No excuse to bust a bravo IMO in this case. edit: its not worth the trouble he went through to potentially save 2 nm

    • @MmeHyraelle
      @MmeHyraelle Před rokem +6

      He didnt hear those words and pulled up in consequence, the plan B was executed, which is what is being discussed.

    • @321southtube
      @321southtube Před rokem +2

      Ok....sure.

    • @TIO540S1
      @TIO540S1 Před rokem +4

      Of course, another option is to be on an IFR flight plan. In that case, you don't need to hear the magic words as you're always flying a route cleared by ATC.

  • @ddelv1601
    @ddelv1601 Před rokem +205

    I enjoy that you turned a stressful personal event into a teachable moment and made sure to acknowledge that both the pilot and the FAA officials are human.

    • @acewings221
      @acewings221 Před rokem +8

      The FAA is most certainly not human. Lol

    • @hidude398
      @hidude398 Před rokem

      The FAA is staffed with lizard people, nobody else could've come up with the current process for medical evaluations, especially pertaining to mental health and medications.

    • @rubenjanssen1672
      @rubenjanssen1672 Před rokem +1

      @@acewings221 FAA oficials are

    • @acewings221
      @acewings221 Před rokem +1

      @@rubenjanssen1672 keep telling yourself that lmao

    • @sorenlandfall9629
      @sorenlandfall9629 Před rokem

      ​@@acewings221 I sure hope you don't work for any airline I work for

  • @ronwyman5188
    @ronwyman5188 Před rokem +93

    You are a man of integrity. It is often not the easy to live your life that lifestyle and maybe even uncomfortable. Thank you for striving to live out your life worthy of being a student of the smartest person who ever breathed a breath of air, and needed to learn from others. Fly high, and soar like an eagle.

  • @branchandfoundry560
    @branchandfoundry560 Před rokem +166

    To the question, "Why would you tell on yourself?" ...because you are a Leader! And Leaders selflessly use their own experience to educate others. Thank you for 'Manning Up' to help everyone else. My hat's off to you, Sir!

    • @PinkFloyd102489
      @PinkFloyd102489 Před rokem +5

      With anything in life, if you mess up, it's better to tell whomever is in charge before they find out on their own or are told a version of the story by someone else. Any time I screw up, I immediately go to my boss and lay out what I did, how I fixed/am going to fix it, and what I'm going to do in the future to avoid the same mistake.

    • @grex2595
      @grex2595 Před rokem +3

      More importantly, this would have been a terrible situation to try to lie or hide in. He had flight following, and he was flying through a Bravo. Absolutely everything they needed was on record, so he couldn't hide anything from them. Alternatively, he could have lied and tried to pass the blame onto equipment, but since he was flying VFR, he would have been responsible anyway. Even if he could manage to convince them that his equipment malfunctioned and showed him outside the Bravo, the books say that you should not be flying close enough to controlled airspace that inaccuracies in your equipment or theirs may call into question whether you were in our out of the airspace. If their equipment says you are in the airspace, it doesn't matter what your equipment says.
      Given that there was no way out of this by keeping quiet or by lying, the best outcome comes from telling the truth.

    • @camerona9067
      @camerona9067 Před rokem +2

      @@PinkFloyd102489 If you mess up, 'fess up! Especially in the aviation industry.

  • @section8usmc53
    @section8usmc53 Před rokem +81

    Love the transparency man. 👍🏼👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 It probably looks good to the FAA too. It couldn't be any clearer that you're taking this seriously, probably more than many would. That's actually the stuff that matters most. Glad everything worked out for you. Stay safe.

  • @GavinMcCune
    @GavinMcCune Před rokem +2

    FAA Operations Inspectors (ASI'a) (like me) are pilots, too and we are part of the aviation community. Many of us fly regularly and are part of flying clubs, war-bird demonstrations, flight schools outside our districts, or fly small jets part 91. The Compliance Action Program which your Inspector offered you is for those individuals who cooperate in the investigation process as we try to determine what went wrong to create this deviation. Our goal is to bring pilots back into compliance, but as you noted, you willingly and honestly evaluated your performance and you sincerely wanted to correct/re-learn what you needed for safety. We love dealing with pilots like yourself! It makes it so easy for us. I would much rather assign a couple of WINGS courses to you than open an EIR (enforcement investigation) to take action against your certificate. Good job! I hope a lot of pilots see this and determine for themselves that we just want you all to be safe and smart pilots. So long, and may every landing be a happy one!!

    • @acasualviewer5861
      @acasualviewer5861 Před měsícem

      Thank you for sharing. Gives some comfort for those of us starting out. We're a bit terrified to make mistakes.

  • @AV8OR51
    @AV8OR51 Před rokem +29

    Thanks for sharing, Mike. Class B is not something you want to mess with. If you are instrument rated, I highly recommend being on an IFR plan even during the VFR days to avoid airspace complications.

    • @BaxterretxaB
      @BaxterretxaB Před rokem +3

      I personally think IFR is easier than even dealing with flight following. You’re making a call to either request flight following and hope you get it or you file IFR and know you’re at least getting cleared 90% chance direct these days or maybe slight vectors around the dead center of the bravo unless you’re going east west over the top at 5000ft…that’s usually a clearance they will give you. Vfr flight following you still have to get handed off just the same to different frequencies same as IFR so IFR is just safer and worst case if you don’t like the clearance then cancel and go VFR around but at least you tried.
      With ForeFlight filing IFR takes less than 3 minutes so it’s just too easy these days.

    • @AV8OR51
      @AV8OR51 Před rokem

      @@BaxterretxaB Couldn’t agree more! I always file an IfR plan when going to a new place, makes life so much easier! Of course if the weather is VFR and don’t like the routing, cancel and be on FF

    • @cypilotiowan4761
      @cypilotiowan4761 Před rokem

      BINGO!! This holds true for complicated military airspace as well, like the coastal area of SC near Cherry Point or Pensacola FL by Navy flight school.

    • @RaceMentally
      @RaceMentally Před 6 měsíci

      All you need to know about Class B “cleared through the Bravo”.
      That’s it nothing else!

  • @mattc.310
    @mattc.310 Před rokem +121

    Glad you took the time to step up and share this. There are those that would have just reset the cameras and moved ahead and miss a great opportunity to teach and learn. We are all human and to share our mistakes can be a big deal.

  • @richardhoward4384
    @richardhoward4384 Před rokem +37

    As a non-pilot, I still appreciate the time you take to explain important points in every video. I live a couple hours from your Winston location and would like to stop in some day to see your business if that is permitted. Happy flying

    • @play005517
      @play005517 Před rokem

      I really want car drivers to also have to go through this kind of form filling and investigation and education if they ran a red light

  • @SuperBuzz71
    @SuperBuzz71 Před rokem +50

    Class and Humility. You and your channel are an asset to the aviation community. Thank you sir.

  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie Před rokem +3

    I used to go to every Wings program in my area. It was a great time to talk with the FAA guys, get some updates on rule changes, meet fellow pilots, get safety lectures (VERY useful!),... absolutely worth it from a learning standpoint and for just plain old socializing.

  • @johnfriend862
    @johnfriend862 Před rokem +4

    It takes a real man to confess, admit and own his mistakes. Instead of just sweeping it under the rug, as most people would do, you put it right out front and used it to teach others how to hopefully NOT get into your situation. For that I congratulate and thank you. You are a real man, we need more like you.

  • @Fireplug52
    @Fireplug52 Před rokem +6

    I am not qualified to fly a plane or do I want to, especially at my age now, but listening and watching these two videos, shows to me your humility in taking responsibility for your actions. You are now better for it and those watching these videos are educated, who do fly airplanes, in never taking for granted the procedures in that must be adhered to. Excellent!

  • @mikeoswald8053
    @mikeoswald8053 Před rokem +7

    Mistakes happen every day in the air. Understanding and having the chance to re-learn or apply the basics is important to operating an aircraft and for your future flights. Your openness is a plus. You've done good Mike!

  • @buckhorncortez
    @buckhorncortez Před rokem +182

    "Why would you tell on yourself?" "Why would you put yourself in the hot seat?" Really? People asked those questions? Okay. It's called PERSONAL INTEGRITY. You take responsibility for your actions.

    • @nicholassinanan7374
      @nicholassinanan7374 Před rokem +20

      Absolutely not. This is why you talk to aopa and an attorney before anything.

    • @michaeldautry
      @michaeldautry Před rokem +17

      The FAA breaks their own rules but will enforce on you with no mercy. The FAA is not anyone’s friend.

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez Před rokem +5

      @@michaeldautry So, then lying is the answer. Got it. I hope you don't mind when people lie to you.

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez Před rokem +10

      @@nicholassinanan7374 Fine get an attorney. I never said not to be smart with your interactions with the FAA - but, denying you did anything and lying about it isn't the answer.

    • @michaeldautry
      @michaeldautry Před rokem +5

      @@buckhorncortez you are correct, I hate when the Faa lies to me.

  • @DavidBruner_NJ
    @DavidBruner_NJ Před rokem +14

    Well done Mike. You took the high road and accountability, which is what I expect every fellow pilot to do. Also, the wings program is great. I regularly take courses and attend live regional trainings. I would recommend highly.

  • @privatepilot4064
    @privatepilot4064 Před rokem +42

    The last thing my FAA Examiner said to me when he signed me off for my Private Certificate was, “Remember, you’re always learning.” I’ve always appreciated and remembered that statement. The way your incident turned out is the way that it should have. You proactively treated it as a learning experience and I think that was what the FAA took into consideration. Great video.

    • @Trevor_Austin
      @Trevor_Austin Před rokem

      I retired from 25 years of airline flying (European short haul Embraer 190/175, Fokker 27/50/70/100) and even on my last fight I learnt. So you are absolutely correct, you are always learning.

  • @efusco
    @efusco Před rokem +9

    You randomly fell into my feed, really interesting review of the situation and really love the honest introspection and admission of responsibility and need for additional education. These are qualities of outstanding pilots.

  • @RealTechZen
    @RealTechZen Před rokem +4

    Good job, sir!
    Part of being a pilot is that you owe it to the flying community to not only "learn your lesson" but to pass along that learning so others will be safer as well.

  • @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
    @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq Před rokem +21

    My huge recommendation MOJO is that you check and triple check your equipment before you get to close to Bravo or Charlie airspace and you are required to "stay out of" the airspace until full contact and two way communication has taken place and then proceed once advised. Circle 360° left, circle 360° right or just go around the airspace. If you can go to 15,000 which is 3-5k above Bravo, then that is an option button recommended.

  • @TherapyinaNutshell-1
    @TherapyinaNutshell-1 Před rokem +2

    My pilot husband and I appreciate your vulnerability and honesty. It will help educate, keep violations from happening and save lives. Great job!!

  • @MikeKunzman
    @MikeKunzman Před rokem +8

    Appreciate the honesty of the videos. We all make mistakes and glad to see you've learned from this. Also happy to hear the FAA is taking a gentler approach these days to enforcement. Blue skies and tailwinds!

  • @bnelson313braveheart8
    @bnelson313braveheart8 Před rokem +7

    I’m glad it turned out so well and you truly benefited by the whole experience as well as helped other aviators. Fly High!

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    I'm still a student pilot, but I've done so many of those Wings courses. I didn't know they mattered for anything other than personal education. My first flight school was in a cutout for a Charlie, with some limits on that, and my current school is so close to a delta that we have to fly a very tight pattern to not encroach in it. We've got a scant half mile between the runway and the delta (parallel). So watching airspace obsessively is something I've had to do right out the gate.

  • @geraldskoog570
    @geraldskoog570 Před rokem +6

    Been following your channel for awhile. Major respect for how you conduct yourself as a pilot and human. Thousands of hours does not make a pilot, character does.

  • @michaelwiggins3663
    @michaelwiggins3663 Před rokem +4

    My experience with a potential deviation was very similar. Since there was no immediate danger in the event they seemed far more interested in preventing the situation from happening again by insuring that I understood how the situation occurred, the proper process, and what I could do to control the situation even if I was not in the wrong. Demonstrating accountability, taking ownership, and showing that I had learned from the experience and could proactively prevent a similar situation in the future was key

  • @fpliu
    @fpliu Před rokem +8

    Thanks for the transparency. As a student pilot this is a great lesson and helps me think about what types of unexpected things can happen.

  • @bensadventures6321
    @bensadventures6321 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for being so humble and transparent.

  • @russelldixon5663
    @russelldixon5663 Před rokem +6

    Mike, I'm not a pilot yet, and I'm glad to be following you for a few years now. Your excellent conduct here is a great example, although it must have been stressful. Thanks for your channel

  • @isaan01
    @isaan01 Před rokem +12

    I appreciate your content. Thanks for taking the time to share videos like this.

  • @RRRIBEYE
    @RRRIBEYE Před rokem +5

    I broke a rule when landing my Cessna 150 into DSM once. I was flying from a small grass strip I usually fly from and wanted to practice going into a larger airport. I was cleared to land, I got to the runway and immediately exited the runway to a taxiway and the controller 'yelled' at me saying "I didn't give you permission to exit the active runway!" I slammed on the toebrake and did a hard 180 turn and pulled back on the runway and he yelled at me again saying, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW?!" I was so flustered, I just punched the throttle, took off, TURNED OFF THE RADIO and master switch to kill the transponder and flew out of there at low altitude (thinking I would stay off his radar, lol) and flew the hour or so back to my grass strip and parked the plane in the hangar and went and grabbed some beer and went fishing, LOL. I never heard anything more about it! This was 1985. I imagine if one would do that today, it would be an entirely different ending!!!!
    *EDIT* I was a student pilot, practicing solo flight and after that, I stopped my flying 'career.' It definitely left me shaken and I think back and wish I had done things differently and kept learning and kept flying, but that was it for me after that! Now I'm a GREAT PILOT on Microsoft Flight Simulator!! 🤣

  • @CommentsAllowed
    @CommentsAllowed Před rokem +6

    Glad to hear you are all good now. Respect and honesty.

  • @mikefendel
    @mikefendel Před rokem

    Having followed this issue from your first video on it, I am pleased to hear this resolution. Mike the humility and honesty you have shown in sharing your incident makes me not surprised how it resolved. You clearly showed both here and to the FAA that you are experienced and approach flying with a commitment to safety and following the rules. I believe your case was most likely to resolve this way, especially as there was not conflict with other aircraft in the area. I commend you on your willingness to use your event as a teaching means for all aviators and this clearly shows the king of guy you are. Congrats! Fly safe, and I wish you many more years of enjoying aviation.

  • @troyezell5841
    @troyezell5841 Před rokem

    A great video series that will actually save lives! Flying is a 3 dimensional operation and the human mind can become complacent at times, forgetting that the rules are not arbitrary ideas but precise steps to keep everyone safe.
    I am so glad you are safe; learned from your experience; taught others the “ropes”, and now you are free to fly!
    Thank you sir!

  • @gtm624
    @gtm624 Před rokem +4

    Thanks for sharing your whole process. This could happen to anyone. It’s great to have someone share their experience so if it were to happen to myself or others we have some insight.
    Hope to see you at sun n fun.
    I like how you didn’t just keep the blame on the radio like many would do. You were able to break it down and look at what YOU could have done differently in that situation and share that with us. Much appreciated 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @bazl1721
    @bazl1721 Před rokem +2

    Happy to hear that ure alright man! Stay safe and thanks for sharing your experiences to make us all better pilots!!

  • @tomtora9056
    @tomtora9056 Před rokem +1

    Love your openness and integrity. Really helpful learning from your mistake and respect you for putting this up here. Low hours Private pilot in UK here and just started following your channel.

  • @kevincollins8014
    @kevincollins8014 Před rokem +23

    I'm glad to hear that it turned out ok. You obviously handed it exactly like you should have since there wasn't any further action. Very few times have I ever heard of the FAA not taking the time to use it as a learning experience than for punishment unless someone does something plain reckless. Thanks for sharing this with us all Mike and blue skies brother.

  • @mlegare102
    @mlegare102 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for sharing your experience in both videos. I'm a current rock climber and future pilot. Making mistakes and being able to learn from them and share them is a great gift. I'm happy with the outcome, sounds like they made the right call and had the correct process. Godspeed.

  • @mikemike2815
    @mikemike2815 Před rokem +1

    Many thanks for your candor. You survived every pilot's worry. Congrats!

  • @roythurston7799
    @roythurston7799 Před rokem

    Growing pain in the learning experience & now it’s Your story to tell in your history . Happy it worked out well for you & many will be more informed & aware. Thanks for sharing

  • @justincase5272
    @justincase5272 Před rokem

    Congratulations! I think a good deal of your success has to do with your excellent attitude. Staying humble, always learning and improving, attention to detail, driving hard to be thorough, get things right, and have a backup plan...
    You're in the groove!

  • @michaelwhitehurst1182
    @michaelwhitehurst1182 Před rokem +3

    Thanks, Mike for sharing your experience. It is good to remind others that there obligations that require alternative measures to be taken when the obligations cannot be fulfilled, such as encountering Class B airspace. Calling, course deviation, and circle to gain altitude to get above the Class B. It is also good to know that there are people who want safety above all. Thanks again.

  • @4alphazulu
    @4alphazulu Před rokem +1

    The way I see it - when you learn, we learn. Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing your experiences and advice.

  • @paulbaldwin6803
    @paulbaldwin6803 Před rokem +1

    I'm not a pilot, but I've enjoyed your videos and appreciate your honesty and integrity. Thanks, Mike.

  • @brentdykgraaf184
    @brentdykgraaf184 Před rokem +4

    Thank you sir. Humility is rare today. You put your buisness in the street. To your honor.... you owned it..took it..shared it for us. Keep up the great content sir.

  • @StrandedTravelers
    @StrandedTravelers Před rokem +3

    Just took my BFR...this subject was part of the ground refresher...great that you shared very helpful! Thanks Mike...

  • @erwinschmidt7265
    @erwinschmidt7265 Před rokem +1

    Mike - Congrats on surviving FAA!! In '90s G.R. Mich, on approach, Pilot took lead from State Highway Pickup he was stationary. Full gas/flaps, gear up, nose slight down & plummeted in downdraft. He pulled it out as entered woods, gently rose, but had no COM as you mentioned as antennas removed. He flew around in & out of TSA, gave himself clearance to land, pulled up to Gate wingtips draggin', and while pulling oak limbs from belly, he was arrested by GRPD for evidence tampering, leaving scene of accident, & joyriding plane! FAA immediately jerked all of Capt's tickets, airline indefinitely suspended him, & GRPD jerked his drivers license making Capt officially a Pedestrian. He didn't even have the ID for use of his credit cards for car rental or even food. Despite above, Capt told me he felt lucky. His actions had saved 156 soles and one of those was his!! Old guys...always lookin' at the sunny side!! I guess you had better experience!!

    • @RobbieHatley
      @RobbieHatley Před rokem

      That's quite confusing. Re "On approach": On approach to what? (A local airport?) Re "Pilot": Pilot of what? (Car? Truck? Boat? GA aircraft? Fire Dept aircraft? Police aircraft? Airliner?) Re "State Highway [Patrol?]": What does State Highway Patrol have to do with aviation? Unless you're saying the "Pilot" was flying a Highway Patrol helicopter? Re "He was stationary": I thought you said he was "on approach"? Unless you mean he was flying a State Highway Patrol helicopter and was hovering? Re "full gas": On approach? Most aircraft, "on approach", are "half out of gas" rather than "full gas". And besides, most aircraft burn kerosene, not "gas[oline?]". Re "had no com[m]", I imagine so, if he scraped the belly of his [helicopter|airplane] against tree tops. Re "wingtips draggin'": Wait, I thought you said he'd been "stationary"? In a fixed-wing plane, that's usually not possible, unless one is flying a Piper Cub into a gale. (I saw a Piper Cub land _backwards_ once at SNA here in OC, CA, USA; 65kt airspeed into a 70kt gale, groundspeed = -5kt.) Re "saved 156 soles": How did he save the feet of 78 people? Or do you mean the fish? But what does fillet of sole have to do with aviation incidents? Or did you mean "souls"? He had 156 [soles (feet) | soles (fish) | souls (people)] on board a Highway Patrol helicopter? _How??_ I'm so confused. 😕

    • @erwinschmidt7265
      @erwinschmidt7265 Před rokem +1

      @@RobbieHatley - Oh, it's much worse than that. Capt was watching State Highway Pickup with all lights on going 80MPH just emerging from downdraft w/driver swerving 40' edge to edge standing up thru side-window pointing finger at him in NWA plane for notice they was all gonna die. Capt, the kind they hire to fly airliners, understanding pickup lingo gave full throttles, full flaps, and gear pulled up was landing type. Don't know what State Highway Patrol has to do with anything, but in Mich we had State Police if ya have a murder or something serious, but I doubt they'd bring their helicopter. Liner was the thing that was hovering even though ILS approach with needles in middles due to vicious headwind from approaching storm. When turned into tailwind was just after Capt made his adjustments giving flat plummet at about 400MPH gravity + downdraft. NTSB investigated but determined old Capt liar, with explanation impossible, got statement from NWS windshear impossible at time of incident, & MDOT added no Dept Equipment near airport at that time. Royally screwed (the kind that's raw & cold w/o lube), NW made it permanent suspension with reinstatement if training w/new Certs for every type NW Orient flew, which really would have been impossible. NOV '96 "SURPRISE", same Capt just reinstated & do dropped in to TPA's Pilots Lounge. With same Capt were his FO & SW Pilots as well, for direct knowledge of windshear to be relayed. They got table opposite bum with tattered old brown jacket, Capt smiled at 'em but other three intentionally ignored. Capt began his tail of woe with approach to Grand Rapids samo, samo....but all of sudden all turned to sht. He said to FO, "Ya should see how this crazy ahole is drivin' a State Highway...truck, HOLY SHT!" That was his moment of awakening. Capt wanted to give emergency actions, but couldn't recall order or what they were. Old bum sitting across from them added, "Capt, you went full gas, flaps, picked up gear, fell straight down in flat plummet into woods, but pulled liner carefully up out of woods heading North." Bad Ju-Ju to say that as Capt 2X size of bum, so leapt from table glowering over him sayin', "And just exactly how in the hell would you know that?" Bum said, "I'm the ahole you mentioned in your story, you can check my MDOT ID here", handing it to Capt. Capt invited bum/pickup driver to join them, but he refused as had already ordered burger. 2nd Dumb thing he did as Capt grabbed him setting him at his own table sayin, "You look like a T-Bone man to me...I've been looking for you for years!" They discussed entire G.R. windshear incident w/bum/PU driver writing all details on hard stock dinner napkin. He signed it, the four Pilots witnessed signature, and Capt took it to NTSB. APR '97 bum/MDOT/PU driver called back to work, was only one in office after rain-day lunch, so answered phone call from MDOT Deputy Director. He asked to speak with bum/PU Driver sayin' had NTSB Investigator that needed word with him. He replied, "Speaking". Investigator said NTSB had re-opened G.R. Windshear Investigation...and he was head of it. He said had just checked his travel logs and workday sheets confirming was at scene of windshear at perfect time, but needed personal conformation from employee everything recorded on dinner napkin at TPA in NOV '96 was absolute fact. Once he had his confirmation, Investigator most friendly with employee. He said NTSB Director had told him everything on napkin was so, as it crossed all the "T"s and dotted all the "I"s regarding incident, while their own investigation had shut down at, "physically impossible". Director specified Capt to be made whole, NWS at airport to get 1st available Doppler Weather Radar, and "procedure" of writing statements out telling witnesses to sign is prohibited immediately. Bum/PU Driver had Project Engineer for Boss that believed MDOT trucks were his own trucks as singed them out himself each year. If he found how bum/pickup driver had been driving "HIS" truck, being retired USAF, he would kill 'em, so original and re-opened Investigations Classified and unavailable to Public. Director's contribution to next complete Training for Investigators was between morning & afternoon sessions, he had "The Napkin" mounted in 1st display case at D.C. Headquarters. For afternoon session, Trainers couldn't pry Investigators from napkin, and if got one away, it ran right back! Auditorium empty and Director all smiles. When finally assembled, he gave group his thoughts on "Physically Imposible", and procedure of writing out statements for Witnesses to sign! Oh yeah, you were right I misspelled soul brother!! I'm just learnin', thanks for the help.

  • @jasonsams4258
    @jasonsams4258 Před rokem +6

    If you haven't already, you should get involved with using the FAA wings program. I encouraged the people that came to me for BFRs when I was instructing to do this. It satisfies the ground portion of the BFR, and then flight tasks are good too. The courses are actually pretty good, and it could also serve to help out in the event of something like your case happening. Cheers, and thanks for the content.

  • @trollingdirty8910
    @trollingdirty8910 Před rokem +9

    Your transparency and humility is refreshing. Keep bringing the great content.

  • @BillPalmer
    @BillPalmer Před rokem +1

    Thanks for educating others from your experience. As a CFI I appreciate your efforts.

  • @archivist17
    @archivist17 Před rokem +5

    Glad to hear that the case is closed. But it's a great teaching moment, so thanks for using that opportunity.
    It's absolutely vital that all pilots be honest about violations and mistaken actions, as it's all safety critical. It's just like a clinical governance process in medicine.

  • @1fastmx5
    @1fastmx5 Před rokem

    So good of you to share this and help others. No ego 👍

  • @nelsonmuntz9317
    @nelsonmuntz9317 Před rokem +3

    This channel rocks. What a intriguing story. More of this type of aviation please. Keep it all comeing

  • @72151
    @72151 Před rokem +1

    Your transparency is the example for all to follow. Good Job 👍

  • @karapesm
    @karapesm Před rokem +4

    Thanks for sharing your experience and being transparent about the process. We can all learn from each other as a part of this small community of pilots.

  • @kdavidsmith1
    @kdavidsmith1 Před 7 měsíci

    I've seen lots of videos about pilots deviation but never what happens on the other side. Thank You, Mojo, for making this video.

  • @jonathanworthing6278
    @jonathanworthing6278 Před rokem +1

    Admirer your honesty by tell us your story with the FAA. And it’s helps all of us that we are learning all the time.

  • @byronkendrick3662
    @byronkendrick3662 Před rokem +1

    Mike, I enjoy your videos and your passion for aviation! I think your FAA Decision Video is the best video you have ever done! A great learning/teaching experience for you and everyone that follows you!

  • @notoriousmr
    @notoriousmr Před rokem +4

    Glad it worked out for you sir. Thanks so much for sharing your experience.

  • @Intrepid175a
    @Intrepid175a Před rokem +4

    Hi Mojogrip, you mentioned that some were questioning why you'd put yourself out there in this situation. I'm very impressed that you did. I've seen other situations where someone made a mistake and put the entire story out there as a learning experience for everyone else. If someone can learn from your mistake and maybe not make that mistake themselves, there's nothing better than that. Kudo's Mike, and thanks for sharing the story!

  • @PilotDaveAviation
    @PilotDaveAviation Před rokem +1

    Mike, I want to thank you for sharing your experience with all of us. Most wouldn't have said anything, but as you advised, it helps all pilots to be aware.. thank you for sharing

  • @tiepup
    @tiepup Před rokem +19

    This certainly shows that the flight community is well organised and understands that humans make mistakes that can be learned from.
    I suppose it’s important that we pay more attention when we make journeys regularly, and don’t fall into bad habits or being complacent.
    Glad it all went well for you, safe flights.

  • @user-ko6jm1zd2o
    @user-ko6jm1zd2o Před rokem

    Thanks for the open discussion of how to handle mistakes with honesty and integrity. We need more examples like you. I'll definitely share this with all my students.

  • @pslny
    @pslny Před rokem +9

    Nice video Mike. An instrument rating makes airspace rules much easier, you don’t have to worry about them. Great video, thanks for sharing.

  • @cbc229
    @cbc229 Před rokem

    Good for you being forthcoming with an error or a mishap. This shows good character on your part, setting an example in a world that doesn't want to be accountable or take responsibility. Good Job Mike.👍

  • @hogey74
    @hogey74 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for this Mike. People bring their own baggage to every situation. In my experience this is particularly obvious when people either commence flying or are non-pilots who become aware of certain aviation safety matters. Blame, punishment, guilt, secrecy etc are all real things of course. We grow up with that stuff all around us and indeed we're pre-wired to think in those terms. But aviation safety has become so amazingly good precisely by getting people to think and feel differently. Those negative concepts lead to less safety, for real. An honest yet positive approach to human frailty has changed things radically.

  • @robertkreamer7522
    @robertkreamer7522 Před rokem

    Your act of sharing is a huge benefit to many others . Good job . Love your plane

  • @stevewinegar6364
    @stevewinegar6364 Před rokem +1

    You're the man for teaching us about this. Thanks a lot for posting these videos.

  • @goalski134
    @goalski134 Před rokem +1

    it can be difficult to sometimes to own up to your mistakes. you’ve done a great job to use it as a learning experience for others.

  • @kbrown6819
    @kbrown6819 Před rokem

    Very interesting comments her in the post. I am about to embark on getting my PPL. You experience pilots offer a lot of knowledge. I appreciate you giving back to this channel. Mojogrip, keep creating good content in the aviation space. Respect!

  • @TCPUDPATM
    @TCPUDPATM Před rokem

    We appreciate the sharing. Thank you!

  • @Flyguycanada
    @Flyguycanada Před rokem +5

    Try hanks for sharing Mike!! Learned a lot for you and like your honesty. It goes a very long way!

  • @stevebunes9151
    @stevebunes9151 Před 2 měsíci

    what a great attitude you have. So excellent to show the right way to look at things and how to properly work with people and authority and to just work through the problems. Great job!

  • @danmcbride6258
    @danmcbride6258 Před rokem +7

    I like the way you stood up and explained yourself to the FAA. Your honesty and recollection of your attempts to connect and when you could not, took corrective action to go over BRAVO. This helped your case.

  • @mittman9977
    @mittman9977 Před rokem +3

    Nice Job Mike! Helps everyone become safer and better as aviators! Thank you!

  • @Modemus69
    @Modemus69 Před rokem +1

    This vid is the first of yours ive seen, your humility and humanizing of everyone involved has made me sub. I want to learn to fly, but always scared me making a mistake....now im not so worried. as long as youre strait up and not a horrible person, its obvious they care far more about education than punishment (to a point ofc. you *are* flying around a potentially deadly hunk of metal)

  • @BlkInc1
    @BlkInc1 Před rokem +5

    Well it seems like you were busy talking to the GoPro while making this mistake and that could have been a contributing factor? Either way seems it worked out in the end.

    • @walthastingsRV-7A
      @walthastingsRV-7A Před rokem +1

      Exactly…. Hope he didn’t tell the FAA guy that he was busy narrating his video while flying thru complex airspace 😮
      The old saying is,” Aviate, Navigate, Communicate…….😅
      NOT, “Narrate, Aviate, Navigate, Communicate “!

  • @brentdykgraaf184
    @brentdykgraaf184 Před rokem

    Glad to hear sir...cleared to resume flight. You learned...you shared...you tought us. Fantastic sir. Fair winds and safe flight.

  • @GMD64
    @GMD64 Před rokem

    The way you've handled this represents the pilot and aviation community very well, and sharing it with current and future pilots is commendable as well.

  • @tacticaltrex6490
    @tacticaltrex6490 Před rokem

    I admire your honesty sir! More people need that in this day and age

  • @jasonscholze3520
    @jasonscholze3520 Před rokem

    I admire your attitude. You could have gotten upset with the FAA, but enstead you calmed yourself and submitted to their process. Also, I love that you were transparent with everyone. I like you Mike. Your channel is excellent. Thanks for the videos.

  • @Travelingchefmark
    @Travelingchefmark Před rokem

    Thanks for sharing this bud, this is the objective of the FAA I assume, to keep pilots safe. The only way I suppose we would learn otherwise is to end up doing it ourselves. So cudos to you for sharing bud. Glad it worked out. From a fellow student pilot

  • @mad85123
    @mad85123 Před rokem +1

    new student pilot here! thank you for this!! Integrity is everything to me! subscribed!!

  • @busbwoy2610
    @busbwoy2610 Před rokem

    Very good of you to share this experience. As some have already commented, if you are instrument rated, it’s best to always file and fly cross country on an IFR flight plan even on a severe clear day. It eliminates all of that drama.

  • @robertmiller3987
    @robertmiller3987 Před rokem +1

    Love these videos. Not just in flying, but in any aspect of life, must take responsibility and own your own mistakes and behavior.

  • @MrWaltjam
    @MrWaltjam Před rokem

    used to fly around CLT from EHO all the time when I was flying. wow... thankfully never had an airspace issue. Its a good thing that you share your learning experience with others so that the airspace is made safer for all. The big sky is really big but it is also very crowded in places. Lots of mid air collisions and runway incursions happening.

  • @shanefrye2161
    @shanefrye2161 Před rokem

    I love your shows! I live in Winston Salem and work near the airport. I have seen you flying on your approach. Glad to see it worked out for ya! I spent a lot of time at Smith Reynolds Airport as a child, My dad was a dispatcher for the late and great Piedmont Airlines

  • @WOTArtyNoobs
    @WOTArtyNoobs Před rokem +2

    Appreciate you adding this video. Most pilots will eventually come into contact with the FAA for one reason or another and it is a learning process to understand if you have made a mistake or why they have to be involved. I've heard of some extremely trivial reasons why the FAA investigates some situations and it can be for something as simple as making a communication that you have left the runway when you are not yet quite off it but in the process of leaving, or an even weirder one where someone was reported for dropping a toilet roll (pre-pandemic) at altitude.
    Neither case required the FAA to invoke a punishment as there'd been no transgression as such. The FAA are there to help all of us and sometimes they get reports from Karens who just want to spoil a pilot's day. Thank you for your honesty. Wishing you safe flights and following winds.

  • @bassett_green
    @bassett_green Před rokem

    Huge respect for how you handled the situation. Well done.

  • @Snakebloke
    @Snakebloke Před rokem +4

    "if you don't think you've done something wrong"
    I'd never ever advise this. In my opinion, never talk to the cops or a federal agency without a lawyer present. You don't know what you don't know.

  • @firemanhouston
    @firemanhouston Před rokem

    So nice to hear a pilot take responsibility. Subscription added. Thank you for the lesson

  • @ssgill
    @ssgill Před rokem

    I am glad the case closed. Thank You for making this a learning opportunity for yourself and us all.

  • @acbennettcfi
    @acbennettcfi Před rokem +1

    Mike, thank you for being forthright and honest about your mistakes. This is an example of great aviation culture. Take notes, friends!

  • @michaelklepacz
    @michaelklepacz Před rokem +1

    I appreciate you doing what you do and how you do it. You are one of my favorite channels.

  • @Dan-rx3fq
    @Dan-rx3fq Před rokem

    I commend you for your honesty and making it an educational. Shows that you're a good pilot and someone to be trusted.

  • @donsgoprofollies4850
    @donsgoprofollies4850 Před rokem

    Mike I truly enjoy your video style and that you offer a shared learning experience in a casual way.

  • @TheMeslava
    @TheMeslava Před rokem +13

    New Sub here. Great content and glad you took accountability for an honest mistake. I think they saw that and that's why you are off the hook. It's all a learning experience, flying is no joke there is so much to learn every time you step into the cockpit. I haven't flown in years due to finances... never got to finish my PPL (I was SO close and had the check ride booked) but I had to leave for school. Everyone that flies should see this video and learn from it! Great job.

  • @user-dw8ud2hw5d
    @user-dw8ud2hw5d Před rokem +2

    excellent video and a great example of how working with the FAA does benefit you both from a practical and educational basis.