"Bow Of The Year + Dialing In Our Setups" MFJJ x Tim Connor (ep 56)
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- MFJJ and Tim Connor sit down and chat about many things archery including the outdoor life bow of the year, stabilizer setups, and who makes the best hunting garments. #archery #podcast
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YEAH!!!! MFJJ & JOCKO!!! THIS IS OUTSTANDING
Nice podcast, Tim you should do a long term review of the Mach 30 and see if the hype is real.
Its REAL!
Congrats on the sponsorship. I'm buying some today!
Excited about it ✊
Looking forward to the MACH 30 review!
I think you should put it side by side with the LIFT and also do a series letting Tim, MFJJ, Dan and possibly one other person all take it out and see just how good it is. Time to put the rumors to rest and or see if they’re true.
Dan will never shoot anything but Mathews
It’s legit in my opinion. I am running this rig at 65 pounds at 28 at 90% letoff. Shoot a 27 inch RIP TKO with IW components. Total arrow is 440. It’s running 278 FPS.
It extremely deadly. I shoot softball groups consistently at 80 with this thing. Currently I can shoot 4-5 different fixed heads at that distance with no problem. I have narrowed it down to two heads for my moose hunt in September.
With all this said I have owned 5 Mathews. Triax, Traverse, V3, V3X and lastly the Lift. While they all were great bows (the Lift being my pick if I had to pick one) none of them shoot for me like the Mach 30. I wholeheartedly believe the EC2 cam is the main contributor to the accuracy. Now I have had a lot of time with the Evolve Cams way before this bow. I owned the Carbon Air back in 17 with the first gen EC cam and have since owned 4-5 of there carbon platforms (all with the EC cam) before the Mach 30. There hasn’t been a single one that wouldn’t tune like a dream and shoot lights out for me.
For years I have been like if they ever to a 30 inch carbon platform it’s over. I currently have a twin on order. It’s that dang good for me.
On a side note it was noticeably better enough I sold the Lift and don’t have any Mathews as of now.
It’s killed a coues, several hogs and will without hesitation be making the trip to Alaska in September.
i have a few buddies who switched from longer ata flagship bows to the Mach 30 and they all stated they are more stable and accurate at distance vs their previous bows which were only a few years old. using the same arrows and release and sight. They went from Phase 4, VTM 31 and RX7 Ultra to Mach 30.
My experience is the exact opposite
Thanks for another great pod cast! Makes for an awesome way to emend Monday!!!
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Massive congratulations of the sponsorship and recognition of what you guys are doing
I have shot the V3 31 and the Phase4 29 for a year and liked them both. Last year i also shot the Levitate also liked that bow so this year i wanted to try a new bow and i loved the shot and draw cycle of the Mock 30 with the E2 cam better than the lift 29.5. But thats what worked for me. Love your videos and pods keep it up.
Very cool sponsorship with Jocko. I always look forward to your podcasts.
Mach 30 , phenomenal bow. Coming off an rx7 ultra shoot it just as well. I said I would NEVER shoot a pse was a big Hoyt fan for a long time so very unbiased. The bow just looks good feels good shoots good and is stupid fast and efficient. I don’t care why, it just performs.
Tim you better be way better than you were in that last tac. Josh has put you where you are in archery . You wouldn’t have access to make a year content you do (archery shop, range,testing all archery equipment, when he says you need to be more serious you not and say yes uncle 👍🏾😂. Respect the man and do as he says. Much love for your guys entertainment. That being said mfjj you ante gonna loose no credibility or business not shooting well . He who shoots archery knows we have good, bad, and awesome days shooting. Me my family and friends owe you ‘josh’ you really have made us all better. For that forever thankful, I have your back till the end. “Respect your elders Tim”
I had the rx7 ultra then got an rx8 ultra. I’m 30.5-31” draw… I sold my rx8 ultra and kept the nock 30 (Mach 30 with e2 cam basically) and I find it to hold very well for its size and is very stable. Great string angle with the e2 cam. Not sure I can say as stable as a 34 for same reasons mfjj says… but for a 30” bow at my draw it’s amazing how surprisingly good it feels and shoots. Way more forgiving and better hold than specs would lead you to believe.
I said I’d never shoot anything under a 33/34ata again. So to say I was impressed with the Mach/nock is an understatement. I shoot it as good if not better than my rx8 ultra and I still haven’t figured out why lol
I got the nock 30 as well and do like it alot. Just working out my setup currently to stabilize my hold
@@user-nr4yb4mw5gI have messed with it some but normally on my hoyts I don’t even run a stabilizer just the stubbie and so far I’ll prob run this bow the same hunting. It holds well for me honestly any way I set it up without going to extremes
Love you guys keep it up.!!!!
Gents, in regards to your target discussion for travel - check out Matrix targets. You could take one module in a checked bag.
Personally I have the lift 29.5 and the Mach 30. I tend to reach for the Mach 30 more often then not
You feel it holds better for you?
@@JoshandTim I’d say they hold about the same. Both shoot just as accurate. I prefer the draw cycle just a little more.
Im on the fence of a lift 33 or a mach 30
Have to shoot the mach to find out wish the price point was closer
great podcast,lots of honest thoughts n advice
My Gen 2 also came loose like that once. I took it apart and found out they used the wrong threaded screw. Got the right one and tightened it and have not had a problem since.
Keep your fingers crossed for me y'all. I get my Core SR rebuilt tomorrow after dry firing it...
Good stuff!
I currently have a 165 yard tape using single pin sight but the sight runs out of travel before fletching hit the housing. so now im looking for a sight with a longer elevation travel might have to go with a target sight
Check the “brace height” at full draw of the Mach 30 compared to other bows (distance from the inside of the grip to the imaginary line between where the strings come off the cam). Due to the offset position of the axle thru the cams and the way the limbs bend it supposedly gets higher than its brace height at rest.
Yeah it’s not voodoo. Those who have shot and owned the PSE carbons know how well they aim and just how accurate they are.
Yes I’m buying some wanted to try this.
Are those 204 hit inserts on the website?? That’s awesome news keep killing it guys!
The way that diodes scope goes onto their rod, you pretty much can move it left to right real easy. But it's not a micro adjust which does suck but you can move it on the fly. Pretty easy with a little crank of a bolt
My old CBE Tek has an adjustable scope level so you can rotate it in the housing to adjust the 3rd axis.
I need to learn how to balance my bow second and third access, my windage is all the way to the right , it’s shooting right now but its almost at the end three lines left.
I am silently watching your Podcasts frequently, love them so far. Would love to meet you one day in person, but it is a long distance over the pond...
You should do one of the darton flagships MFJJ to replace the Athens
I absolutely love my Ethos. Glad to see it getting some love. Your initial review was kinda, “ehhh. It’s okay”.
For lasers that mount to pic rails you can always checkout military options. PEQ-15 is a good option only down side is they are just short of $2000. But very durable. If you want to go that route let me know.
so if your floating back to center faster with lighter bars would you say that is better for a command shooter?
Rookie question, how do you see where you’re aiming at 160 yards? I would’ve thought at that distance the 10 ring on a rineheart elk would be the size of a 0.10 pin if not bigger
How important is 3rd axis when hunting out of a tree stand?
That's why you need to keep doing reviews
Just bought a variety pack!
In regards to the third axis level; Why not take the bow out of the equation and use the Brite Site 3rd Axis Accurate Shooting Leveler jig? Ive been wanting to ask why shops dont use this jig to level sites instead of leveling the bow. I think its like $130 setup and you can level 1st, 2nd, and 3rd pretty much anywhere you have a flat surface to set the jig down on.
AXT used to have an adjustable bubble level to adjust the third axis.
Their system was slightly better than Black Golds.
MFJJ…how is the ripcord ratchet working for you?? Would like to hear your thoughts if you are still using it. Im considering it over the epsilon or QAD but am hesitant because i know its a newer product and might have some durability issues or kinks…would love to hear thoughts on it if youre still rocking it
The PSE was a 70 pound bow turned down to 60, brace height increases doing so, not a fair test IMO
Will the new fletching jig be out before the end of the year mfjj??
Since Athens is gone add the Darton sequel
So after you build every one of these bows and then you decide which one you're going to use. You going to give the rest of them away?
Totally agree on the Outdoor Life Video. Seemed like it didn’t have anything of substance or any real comparison or pros and cons.
You could throw in a Darton bow
MFJJs TAC arrow sounds a bit underspined. 350 spine with 130 up front and shooting 70# with over 30" DL.
300 spine would be better with that setup and specs. imo.
MFJJ definitely doesn’t know what works with his bow and what doesn’t 🤪
Can someone tell me whats the brand of MFJJ pants... thnx... great podcast... hellps me go trough my working day down under... 🤟
Eddie Bauer pro guide is what they look like to me
Thnx!!
Can we please get something to block MFJJ's feet from the camera! 😂 You guys are great and keep up the good work!
I ordered a Mach 30 from my dealer for 1600$. Did I get a great deal or something? I’ve seen it no where for 1900$
Same here 1600
1900 was original suggested retail
Everything I buy from Jocko Fuel has been great stuff. Go, Molk, greens, and more. Good stuff fellas 🍻
Same I’ve used molk, and greens as well! Tc
Your activities are your choice.
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Steiner dbal or L3 Ngal would be better, eotech also now make an aiming laser
Green laser shows better in daylight😎
The Mach 30 is definitely not hype. There is something weird going on with this bow that needs to be explored. This thing is a nail-driver and it shouldn’t be. Short axle to axle, 6” brace height, light weight, and lots of reflex all say no. Like PJ said, it should not be able to do what it is doing.
Show me on the doll where the PSE Mach 30 hurt you….. 😂😂😂. Jk. It’s a great bow.
The Mach 30 with the EC2 cams may be the most overrated and over hyped bow in many, many years. The Mach 30 with the E2/S2 cams may be one of the best short axle bows in recent memory. But in general, the Mach 30 isn't on par with the Levitate or Mach 34.
Why do we spend more money for lighter bows then spend even more money putting weight back on them?
Because it allows us to replace the weight where we need it or where it is most important. Heavy is heavy, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the weight is distributed in the most beneficial way.
If you can push the weight farther away from your hand it will be more steady
Buy once cry once is the best saying lol spend a few thouwow and be done
A quick observation. Your bow reviews are hopelessly skewed and you don’t realize it. You guys, MFJJ, Tim, and Brandon, are relatively tall individuals with longer draw lengths. So, naturally you prefer longer axle to axle bows that fit your dimensions. On the other hand, men who are shorter, with draw lengths from 26”-28”, are going to prefer shorter axle to axle bows with cam systems that are more efficient in this range.
❗️I think Josh is doing too much. He wants to help teach people, does all kinds of reviews, runs a shop, and tries to go archery events. However, the trend im starting to see is that Josh doesn’t seem very happy with his results when going to said events. Josh has so much going on that he can’t do what he preaches. ❗️shoot your bow❗️JOSH SHOOT YOUR BOW MORE!
That pse bow is one butt ugly bow.